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Problem 3A – 3B (Rule 404 and the Criminal Case Exceptions). Wanda’s Testimony. D walked up to V, called V a “dirty SOB,” pulled wrench from purse, & hit V in the head with it. Isn’t D’s calling V a “dirty SOB” a PBA under 404?. Any 404 problems?. Dirty SOB Testimony. - PowerPoint PPT Presentation

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Page 1: Problem 3A – 3B (Rule 404 and the Criminal Case Exceptions)

Problem 3A – 3B(Rule 404 and the

Criminal Case Exceptions)

Page 2: Problem 3A – 3B (Rule 404 and the Criminal Case Exceptions)

Wanda’s Testimony

D walked up to V, called V a “dirty

SOB,” pulled wrench from purse, & hit V in

the head with it.Any 404

problems?Isn’t D’s calling V a “dirty SOB” a PBA

under 404?

Page 3: Problem 3A – 3B (Rule 404 and the Criminal Case Exceptions)

Dirty SOB Testimony

Folks who call others SOB’s are SML to be violent folks

D called V a “dirty SOB”

D killed VD has a violent

character

Folks who are violent are SML

to kill others

Intermediate Fact Wanda

Forbidden Character Propensity Inference

Page 4: Problem 3A – 3B (Rule 404 and the Criminal Case Exceptions)

Alternative Inference

One who calls X a “dirty SOB” is SML to be angry

at X

D called V a “dirty SOB”

D killed VD was angry at V

One who is angry at X is SML to kill X

Intermediate Fact

Forbidden Character Propensity Inference??

Wanda Not a

Characte

r

Trait

No! Not a Character Inference

Page 5: Problem 3A – 3B (Rule 404 and the Criminal Case Exceptions)

D’s “Dirty SOB” comment is not a Prior BA anyway.

• Extrinsic v. Intrinsic Conduct -- see last paragraph of ACN to 1991 Amendments

• Res Gestae (Complete Story) Principle -- See PLG 5.27

Page 6: Problem 3A – 3B (Rule 404 and the Criminal Case Exceptions)

Willy’s Testimony

A year ago, D hit Orville in the knee with a baseball bat.

Pertinent Trait?

Specific Act? Opinion?

Reputation?

Page 7: Problem 3A – 3B (Rule 404 and the Criminal Case Exceptions)

Willy’s Baseball Bat Testimony

Folks who hit others w/ bats are SML to be violent people

1 yr ago, D hit O with

BB batD killed V

D is a violent person

People who are violent are SML

to kill

Forbidden Character Propensity Inference?YesCriminal Case

Exception?NoProsecutor can’t attack first

Any other problem?Can’t Use Specific ActsWhat Rule? ________405

Page 8: Problem 3A – 3B (Rule 404 and the Criminal Case Exceptions)

Connie Counselor’s Testimony

D is subject to fits of rage & anger.

Pertinent Trait?

Specific Act? Opinion?

Reputation? Connie

Page 9: Problem 3A – 3B (Rule 404 and the Criminal Case Exceptions)

Connie’s “Rage & Anger” Testimony

D subject to fits of rage &

angerD killed V

People who are subject to fits of rage & anger are SML to kill

Forbidden Character Propensity Inference?

Connie Counselor

YesCriminal Case Exception?NoProsecutor can’t attack first.

Page 10: Problem 3A – 3B (Rule 404 and the Criminal Case Exceptions)

I have known D for years and she is a

non-violent and truthful person

Specific Act? Opinion?

Reputation?

Mayor’s Testimony about Doris

Pertinent Trait?

truthfuland

Page 11: Problem 3A – 3B (Rule 404 and the Criminal Case Exceptions)

Disaggregate

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Page 12: Problem 3A – 3B (Rule 404 and the Criminal Case Exceptions)

D is not violent

Mayor’s Testimony about Doris

D is truthful

Page 13: Problem 3A – 3B (Rule 404 and the Criminal Case Exceptions)

Mayor’s Testimony about Doris

• Not pertinent trait for killing.

• Is pertinent character trait for credibility

• But witness credibility rules are different

D is truthful

Page 14: Problem 3A – 3B (Rule 404 and the Criminal Case Exceptions)

D is not violent

Mayor’s Testimony about Doris

Page 15: Problem 3A – 3B (Rule 404 and the Criminal Case Exceptions)

Mayor’s testimony: D is non-violent

D is completely non-violent

D did not kill V

People who are non-violent are somewhat less likely (SLL) to kill

Forbidden Character Propensity Inference?

Mayor

YesCriminal Case Exception?YesDefendant can offer character evidence first.

Any 405 problem?It’s OK because opinion.

Page 16: Problem 3A – 3B (Rule 404 and the Criminal Case Exceptions)

Criminal Case Exceptions for Defendant (the “Mercy Rules”)

• D may offer his own good character traits if the traits are pertinent

• D may offer victim’s character traits if the traits are pertinent

Page 17: Problem 3A – 3B (Rule 404 and the Criminal Case Exceptions)

Prosecutor Now offers Counselor’s Testimony

D is subject to fits of rage & anger.

Connie

D is not violent

Mayor

Earlier Testimony

Now

Page 18: Problem 3A – 3B (Rule 404 and the Criminal Case Exceptions)

Counselor’s Testimony in Rebuttal

D subject to fits of rage &

angerD killed V

People who are subject to fits of rage & anger are SML to kill

Forbidden Character Propensity Inference?

Connie Counselor

YesCriminal Case Exception?YesP can rebut w/bad character once D has offered good character.

Page 19: Problem 3A – 3B (Rule 404 and the Criminal Case Exceptions)

Criminal Case Exceptions for Prosecutor (the “Rebuttal Rules”)

• If D has offered evidence of D’s own good character, P may rebut with evidence of D’s bad character.

• If D has offered evidence of V’s bad character, P may rebut with evidence of V’s good character.

• In homicide case, if D has offered evidence that V was 1st aggressor, P may rebut with pertinent evidence of V’s good character -- even though D has not attacked V’s character.

Page 20: Problem 3A – 3B (Rule 404 and the Criminal Case Exceptions)

P Now Offers Baseball Bat Testimony

A year ago, D hit Orville in the knee with a baseball bat.

Page 21: Problem 3A – 3B (Rule 404 and the Criminal Case Exceptions)

Baseball Bat Testimony as Rebuttal

Folks who hit others w/ bats are SML to be violent people

1 yr ago, D hit O with

BB batD killed V

D is a violent person

People who are violent are SML

to kill

Forbidden Character Propensity Inference?YesCriminal Case

Exception?YesProsecution can rebut because D has opened door (offered good character)

Any other problem?Still Can’t Use Specific ActsDon’t forget rule ________405

Page 22: Problem 3A – 3B (Rule 404 and the Criminal Case Exceptions)

Rule 405 and Specific Acts

• Specific acts can be used to prove character only if the character trait is “an essential element of the charge, claim or defense.”

• Isn’t violent character an essential element of murder?

Page 23: Problem 3A – 3B (Rule 404 and the Criminal Case Exceptions)

What can P do with baseball bat incident?

Ask Mayor Marvin about it on cross.But Doris has never been charged or convicted of the baseball bat assault.

Still permitted to ask so long as P has:a good faith basis for believing the incident really happened.

Page 24: Problem 3A – 3B (Rule 404 and the Criminal Case Exceptions)

D Offers Mayor’s Testimony About V & W

V& W are known as violent folks who

frequently engage in armed robbery.

Mayor

Specific Act? Opinion?

Reputation?

Pertinent Trait?

Page 25: Problem 3A – 3B (Rule 404 and the Criminal Case Exceptions)

D Offers Mayor’s Testimony About V & W

Mayor

W is known to rob

W is known as a violent

person

V is known as a violent

person

V is known to rob

Page 26: Problem 3A – 3B (Rule 404 and the Criminal Case Exceptions)

D Offers Mayor’s Testimony About V & W

Mayor

V is known as a violent

person

Page 27: Problem 3A – 3B (Rule 404 and the Criminal Case Exceptions)

People who are violent are SML to attack first.

Mayor: V is known to be violent

Most folks believe V is a violent person

V attacked first

If most folks think X is true, it is SML that it

is true.

Forbidden Character Propensity Inference?

Mayor

YesCriminal Case Exception?YesDefendant can offer victim’s character evidence first.

Any 405 problem?It’s OK because reputation.

Second Mercy Rule

V is a violent person

Page 28: Problem 3A – 3B (Rule 404 and the Criminal Case Exceptions)

D Offers Mayor’s Testimony About V & W

Mayor

W is known as a violent

personDoes this

fit under

any

exception

Page 29: Problem 3A – 3B (Rule 404 and the Criminal Case Exceptions)

Criminal Case Exceptions for Prosecutor (the “Rebuttal Rules”)

• If D has offered evidence of D’s own good character, P may rebut with evidence of D’s bad character.

• If D has offered evidence of V’s bad character, P may rebut with evidence of V’s good character.

• In homicide case, if D has offered evidence that V was 1st aggressor, P may rebut with pertinent evidence of V’s good character -- even though D has not attacked V’s character.

Page 30: Problem 3A – 3B (Rule 404 and the Criminal Case Exceptions)

Criminal Case Exceptions for Defendant (the “Mercy Rules”)

• D may offer his own good character traits if the traits are pertinent

• D may offer victim’s character traits if the traits are pertinent

Page 31: Problem 3A – 3B (Rule 404 and the Criminal Case Exceptions)

Is Wanda a Victim

Is Wanda

a victim?

Page 32: Problem 3A – 3B (Rule 404 and the Criminal Case Exceptions)

Purpose vs.

Language

Page 33: Problem 3A – 3B (Rule 404 and the Criminal Case Exceptions)

Mayor: “They frequently rob.”

Mayor

W is known to rob

V is known to rob

•Is this different?•Is it a character trait?•If so, is it a pertinent trait?

Page 34: Problem 3A – 3B (Rule 404 and the Criminal Case Exceptions)

P Offers Rabbi Ralph’s Testimony

V was truthful, timid &

peaceable.

Rabbi Ralph

Specific Act? Opinion?

Reputation?

Pertinent Trait?

Disaggregate

Page 35: Problem 3A – 3B (Rule 404 and the Criminal Case Exceptions)

Rabbi: V timid & peaceable.

V was peaceable &

timid

V did not attack first

People who are timid & peaceable are SLL to attack first

Forbidden Character Propensity Inference?YesCriminal Case Exception?Depends on when P offers it.

Rabbi Ralph

Page 36: Problem 3A – 3B (Rule 404 and the Criminal Case Exceptions)

When is it offered

V was peaceable &

timid

V did not attack first

People who are timid & peaceable are SLL to attack first

Rabbi Ralph

Criminal Case Exception?

Offered in P’s Case in Chief

Page 37: Problem 3A – 3B (Rule 404 and the Criminal Case Exceptions)

When is it offered

V was peaceable &

timid

V did not attack first

People who are timid & peaceable are SLL to attack first

Rabbi Ralph

Criminal Case Exception?

After Mayor’s

“V is violent”

testimony

Page 38: Problem 3A – 3B (Rule 404 and the Criminal Case Exceptions)

When is it offered

V was peaceable &

timid

V did not attack first

People who are timid & peaceable are SLL to attack first

Rabbi Ralph

Criminal Case Exception?

After Doris testifies butD doesn’t

call Marvin

Page 39: Problem 3A – 3B (Rule 404 and the Criminal Case Exceptions)

Problem 3B

Do Problem 3B

Page 40: Problem 3A – 3B (Rule 404 and the Criminal Case Exceptions)

Connie’s Testimony After the Mayor’s

Mayor

V is known as a violent

personD is subject

to fits of rage & anger.

Connie

Page 41: Problem 3A – 3B (Rule 404 and the Criminal Case Exceptions)

Criminal Case Exceptions for Prosecutor (the “Rebuttal Rules”)

• If D has offered evidence of D’s own good character, P may rebut with evidence of D’s bad character.

• If D has offered evidence of V’s bad character, P may rebut with evidence of V’s good character.

• In homicide case, if D has offered evidence that V was 1st aggressor, P may rebut with pertinent evidence of V’s good character -- even though D has not attacked V’s character.

Page 42: Problem 3A – 3B (Rule 404 and the Criminal Case Exceptions)

The New Rebuttal RuleIf D has offered evidence of

V’s bad character, P may rebut with evidence of D’s bad character. (Must

be same trait)

Page 43: Problem 3A – 3B (Rule 404 and the Criminal Case Exceptions)

Don’t Forget• Rule 404 applies to good

character as well as bad character.

• Rule 404 does not forbid using character evidence when character is an element of the charge, claim, or defense.

Page 44: Problem 3A – 3B (Rule 404 and the Criminal Case Exceptions)

Good Character or Civil Cases

D is a safe driver

D was speeding

before wreck

Safe drivers are SLL to speed

Forbidden Character Propensity Inference?

Someone who often sees D driving

Yes: Good Character Testimony Covered by Rule 404 too.What if it’s a civil case?The basic propensity evidence

rule applies to civil cases too.But the criminal case exceptions

do not.

Page 45: Problem 3A – 3B (Rule 404 and the Criminal Case Exceptions)

Negligent Hiring CaseNeed to Show that EE Was Violent

EE is a violent person

EE is a violent person

No Evidentiary Hypothesis Necessary

Connie Counselor

Forbidden Character Propensity Inference?No

Page 46: Problem 3A – 3B (Rule 404 and the Criminal Case Exceptions)

Another Negligent Hiring Case: Need to Show EE was Violent Person

Folks who hammer others are SML to be violent people

EE hit Jim in the head w/hammer

EE is a violent person

EE is a violent person

No Evidentiary Hypothesis Necessary

Forbidden Character Propensity Inference?No