problem 3a – 3b (rule 404 and the criminal case exceptions)
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Problem 3A – 3B (Rule 404 and the Criminal Case Exceptions). Wanda’s Testimony. D walked up to V, called V a “dirty SOB,” pulled wrench from purse, & hit V in the head with it. Isn’t D’s calling V a “dirty SOB” a PBA under 404?. Any 404 problems?. Dirty SOB Testimony. - PowerPoint PPT PresentationTRANSCRIPT
Problem 3A – 3B(Rule 404 and the
Criminal Case Exceptions)
Wanda’s Testimony
D walked up to V, called V a “dirty
SOB,” pulled wrench from purse, & hit V in
the head with it.Any 404
problems?Isn’t D’s calling V a “dirty SOB” a PBA
under 404?
Dirty SOB Testimony
Folks who call others SOB’s are SML to be violent folks
D called V a “dirty SOB”
D killed VD has a violent
character
Folks who are violent are SML
to kill others
Intermediate Fact Wanda
Forbidden Character Propensity Inference
Alternative Inference
One who calls X a “dirty SOB” is SML to be angry
at X
D called V a “dirty SOB”
D killed VD was angry at V
One who is angry at X is SML to kill X
Intermediate Fact
Forbidden Character Propensity Inference??
Wanda Not a
Characte
r
Trait
No! Not a Character Inference
D’s “Dirty SOB” comment is not a Prior BA anyway.
• Extrinsic v. Intrinsic Conduct -- see last paragraph of ACN to 1991 Amendments
• Res Gestae (Complete Story) Principle -- See PLG 5.27
Willy’s Testimony
A year ago, D hit Orville in the knee with a baseball bat.
Pertinent Trait?
Specific Act? Opinion?
Reputation?
Willy’s Baseball Bat Testimony
Folks who hit others w/ bats are SML to be violent people
1 yr ago, D hit O with
BB batD killed V
D is a violent person
People who are violent are SML
to kill
Forbidden Character Propensity Inference?YesCriminal Case
Exception?NoProsecutor can’t attack first
Any other problem?Can’t Use Specific ActsWhat Rule? ________405
Connie Counselor’s Testimony
D is subject to fits of rage & anger.
Pertinent Trait?
Specific Act? Opinion?
Reputation? Connie
Connie’s “Rage & Anger” Testimony
D subject to fits of rage &
angerD killed V
People who are subject to fits of rage & anger are SML to kill
Forbidden Character Propensity Inference?
Connie Counselor
YesCriminal Case Exception?NoProsecutor can’t attack first.
I have known D for years and she is a
non-violent and truthful person
Specific Act? Opinion?
Reputation?
Mayor’s Testimony about Doris
Pertinent Trait?
truthfuland
Disaggregate
DisaggregateDisaggregate
Disaggregate
DisaggregateDisaggregate
D is not violent
Mayor’s Testimony about Doris
D is truthful
Mayor’s Testimony about Doris
• Not pertinent trait for killing.
• Is pertinent character trait for credibility
• But witness credibility rules are different
D is truthful
D is not violent
Mayor’s Testimony about Doris
Mayor’s testimony: D is non-violent
D is completely non-violent
D did not kill V
People who are non-violent are somewhat less likely (SLL) to kill
Forbidden Character Propensity Inference?
Mayor
YesCriminal Case Exception?YesDefendant can offer character evidence first.
Any 405 problem?It’s OK because opinion.
Criminal Case Exceptions for Defendant (the “Mercy Rules”)
• D may offer his own good character traits if the traits are pertinent
• D may offer victim’s character traits if the traits are pertinent
Prosecutor Now offers Counselor’s Testimony
D is subject to fits of rage & anger.
Connie
D is not violent
Mayor
Earlier Testimony
Now
Counselor’s Testimony in Rebuttal
D subject to fits of rage &
angerD killed V
People who are subject to fits of rage & anger are SML to kill
Forbidden Character Propensity Inference?
Connie Counselor
YesCriminal Case Exception?YesP can rebut w/bad character once D has offered good character.
Criminal Case Exceptions for Prosecutor (the “Rebuttal Rules”)
• If D has offered evidence of D’s own good character, P may rebut with evidence of D’s bad character.
• If D has offered evidence of V’s bad character, P may rebut with evidence of V’s good character.
• In homicide case, if D has offered evidence that V was 1st aggressor, P may rebut with pertinent evidence of V’s good character -- even though D has not attacked V’s character.
P Now Offers Baseball Bat Testimony
A year ago, D hit Orville in the knee with a baseball bat.
Baseball Bat Testimony as Rebuttal
Folks who hit others w/ bats are SML to be violent people
1 yr ago, D hit O with
BB batD killed V
D is a violent person
People who are violent are SML
to kill
Forbidden Character Propensity Inference?YesCriminal Case
Exception?YesProsecution can rebut because D has opened door (offered good character)
Any other problem?Still Can’t Use Specific ActsDon’t forget rule ________405
Rule 405 and Specific Acts
• Specific acts can be used to prove character only if the character trait is “an essential element of the charge, claim or defense.”
• Isn’t violent character an essential element of murder?
What can P do with baseball bat incident?
Ask Mayor Marvin about it on cross.But Doris has never been charged or convicted of the baseball bat assault.
Still permitted to ask so long as P has:a good faith basis for believing the incident really happened.
D Offers Mayor’s Testimony About V & W
V& W are known as violent folks who
frequently engage in armed robbery.
Mayor
Specific Act? Opinion?
Reputation?
Pertinent Trait?
D Offers Mayor’s Testimony About V & W
Mayor
W is known to rob
W is known as a violent
person
V is known as a violent
person
V is known to rob
D Offers Mayor’s Testimony About V & W
Mayor
V is known as a violent
person
People who are violent are SML to attack first.
Mayor: V is known to be violent
Most folks believe V is a violent person
V attacked first
If most folks think X is true, it is SML that it
is true.
Forbidden Character Propensity Inference?
Mayor
YesCriminal Case Exception?YesDefendant can offer victim’s character evidence first.
Any 405 problem?It’s OK because reputation.
Second Mercy Rule
V is a violent person
D Offers Mayor’s Testimony About V & W
Mayor
W is known as a violent
personDoes this
fit under
any
exception
Criminal Case Exceptions for Prosecutor (the “Rebuttal Rules”)
• If D has offered evidence of D’s own good character, P may rebut with evidence of D’s bad character.
• If D has offered evidence of V’s bad character, P may rebut with evidence of V’s good character.
• In homicide case, if D has offered evidence that V was 1st aggressor, P may rebut with pertinent evidence of V’s good character -- even though D has not attacked V’s character.
Criminal Case Exceptions for Defendant (the “Mercy Rules”)
• D may offer his own good character traits if the traits are pertinent
• D may offer victim’s character traits if the traits are pertinent
Is Wanda a Victim
Is Wanda
a victim?
Purpose vs.
Language
Mayor: “They frequently rob.”
Mayor
W is known to rob
V is known to rob
•Is this different?•Is it a character trait?•If so, is it a pertinent trait?
P Offers Rabbi Ralph’s Testimony
V was truthful, timid &
peaceable.
Rabbi Ralph
Specific Act? Opinion?
Reputation?
Pertinent Trait?
Disaggregate
Rabbi: V timid & peaceable.
V was peaceable &
timid
V did not attack first
People who are timid & peaceable are SLL to attack first
Forbidden Character Propensity Inference?YesCriminal Case Exception?Depends on when P offers it.
Rabbi Ralph
When is it offered
V was peaceable &
timid
V did not attack first
People who are timid & peaceable are SLL to attack first
Rabbi Ralph
Criminal Case Exception?
Offered in P’s Case in Chief
When is it offered
V was peaceable &
timid
V did not attack first
People who are timid & peaceable are SLL to attack first
Rabbi Ralph
Criminal Case Exception?
After Mayor’s
“V is violent”
testimony
When is it offered
V was peaceable &
timid
V did not attack first
People who are timid & peaceable are SLL to attack first
Rabbi Ralph
Criminal Case Exception?
After Doris testifies butD doesn’t
call Marvin
Problem 3B
Do Problem 3B
Connie’s Testimony After the Mayor’s
Mayor
V is known as a violent
personD is subject
to fits of rage & anger.
Connie
Criminal Case Exceptions for Prosecutor (the “Rebuttal Rules”)
• If D has offered evidence of D’s own good character, P may rebut with evidence of D’s bad character.
• If D has offered evidence of V’s bad character, P may rebut with evidence of V’s good character.
• In homicide case, if D has offered evidence that V was 1st aggressor, P may rebut with pertinent evidence of V’s good character -- even though D has not attacked V’s character.
The New Rebuttal RuleIf D has offered evidence of
V’s bad character, P may rebut with evidence of D’s bad character. (Must
be same trait)
Don’t Forget• Rule 404 applies to good
character as well as bad character.
• Rule 404 does not forbid using character evidence when character is an element of the charge, claim, or defense.
Good Character or Civil Cases
D is a safe driver
D was speeding
before wreck
Safe drivers are SLL to speed
Forbidden Character Propensity Inference?
Someone who often sees D driving
Yes: Good Character Testimony Covered by Rule 404 too.What if it’s a civil case?The basic propensity evidence
rule applies to civil cases too.But the criminal case exceptions
do not.
Negligent Hiring CaseNeed to Show that EE Was Violent
EE is a violent person
EE is a violent person
No Evidentiary Hypothesis Necessary
Connie Counselor
Forbidden Character Propensity Inference?No
Another Negligent Hiring Case: Need to Show EE was Violent Person
Folks who hammer others are SML to be violent people
EE hit Jim in the head w/hammer
EE is a violent person
EE is a violent person
No Evidentiary Hypothesis Necessary
Forbidden Character Propensity Inference?No