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12/13/2013 1 Effectively Communicating with Young Children Susan Samuel Program Director Southwest Region National Child Protection Training Center at NMSU Effectively Communicating with Young Children Susan Samuel Program Director Southwest Region National Child Protection Training Center at NMSU Children’s Law Institute 2014 Someone said: What I HEAR I forget What I SEE I remember What I DO I understand PLEASE PARTICIPATE!! (c) Starks & Samuel 2014 2 Someone else said: Learning is directly proportional to the amount of fun that you have! (c) Starks & Samuel 2014 3

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Effectively Communicating

withYoung Children

Susan SamuelProgram Director

Southwest Region National Child Protection Training Center at NMSU

Effectively Communicating

withYoung Children

Susan SamuelProgram Director

Southwest Region National Child Protection Training Center at NMSU

Children’s Law Institute2014

Someone said:What I HEAR I forgetWhat I SEE I rememberWhat I DO I understand

PLEASE PARTICIPATE!!

(c) Starks & Samuel 2014 2

Someone else said:

Learning is directly proportional to the amount of

fun that you have!

(c) Starks & Samuel 2014 3

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WHY DO WE WANT TO COMMUNICATE WITH

CHILDREN?

TO GET INFORMATION!

(c) Starks & Samuel 2014 4

Adult to a 6 year old:

“I know that you believe you understand what you think I said but I am not sure you

realize that what you heard is not what I meant.”

(c) Starks & Samuel 2014 5

COMMUNICATION

• An exchange of understanding between sender & receiver

• Multiple barriers from all participants impede the exchange

(c) Starks & Samuel 2014 6

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Example: Adult is the SENDER of the message

What could the adult’s barriers be? (these barriers impede the adult from

forming the intended “perfect” message)

(c) Starks & Samuel 2014 7

Child is the RECEIVER of the message

What could the child’s barriers be? (these barriers impede receipt of the

message as intended)

(c) Starks & Samuel 2014 8

Job of the adult…Reduce the barriers and

check, check, check again!Adult should check:• to see if the child understands what

they have said • to see if they (adult) truly

understand the child.

(c) Starks & Samuel 2014 9

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EVERYDAY INTERVIEWSPEECH EXPECTATION

• Brief responses…….• Adult knows/tests..• Answer expected….• Cooperate……………….• Response rewarded

…Long Narrative…Sole Source…OK-”I don’t know”…Challenge & correct…Neutral – no reward(Partially adapted from Ceci, 1995 & Poole, 1998)

(c) Starks & Samuel 2014 10

DEFINING WORDSWhat do these words mean?

• Our Words– Adult words - Professional Words

Reside Parties Opportunity SwearMatter Jury

– Prepositions - PronounsOn-In He, She Before-After They, It

(c) Starks & Samuel 2014 11

(even harder)DEFININGNEW WORDS

Exercise

(c) Starks & Samuel 2014 12

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Your New Word:

(c) Starks & Samuel 2014 13

What PROCESSES did you use to define the new word?

Case Example: Mindy

(c) Starks & Samuel 2014 14

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Chapter 7:

COMMUNICATING WITH CHILDREN

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(c) Starks & Samuel 2014 16

Chapter 7:

COMMUNICATING WITH CHILDREN

(c) Starks & Samuel 2014 17

Chapter 7:

COMMUNICATING WITH CHILDREN

(c) Starks & Samuel 2014 18

Chapter 7:

COMMUNICATING WITH CHILDREN

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MISCOMMUNICATION

From a 4-year old:Q: When you were at your grandma's house with your daddy, whose mamma is your grandma?A: Grandma Ann.

What’s Happening?

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MISCOMMUNICATION

From a 4-year old:Q: When were you at your grandma Ann’s house with your daddy?A: She has a boyfriend. Two boyfriends.

What’s Happening?

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MISCOMMUNICATION

• When an adult repeats a question……

Example

(c) Starks & Samuel 2014 21

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Miscommunication2 years 6 months oldMom: Say Happy Birthday, NannieEsme: Happy Birthday, NannieMom (repeats in a louder voice because she wants child to say it louder) Say Happy Birthday, Nannie.Esme: I not Nannie, I Esme.Mom: I know, YOU say, Happy Birthday Nannie.Esme: No, My…I not Gam-ma!Mom: I know, you TELL Nannie, Happy Birthday.Esme(Turns and leaves the room)NO! (c) Starks & Samuel 2014 22

(c) Starks & Samuel 2014 23

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNXJgrkz--8

I Not Nanny! 2 ½ years old

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MISCOMUNICATION(stacking questions)

7 year old

Q: Well, what is the stick? Can you draw it? Let’s take out my crayons. What color do you want?

A: Um, green.Q: Green? See if you can draw the stick for

me. That’s a stick? What color is it?A: Green.

(c) Starks & Samuel 2014

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Q: Let me ask you something. Do you know what a penis is? On a little boy. They call it their pee-pee, their thing right here, but the technical name for it is a penis. Understand? OK, is the “stick” a penis?

A: I want my mommy!Q: We’re almost finished. Now, is the stick a

penis?

(c) Starks & Samuel 2014

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PRONOUNS – difficult for younger children

To avoid confusion, repeat names (or descriptions) Ask, "What were John and Mary doing in the living room?" rather than, "What were they doing in there?"

(c) Starks & Samuel 2014

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RELATIONSHIPS

EXERCISE:

What’s are the Relationships? Meg, Carla, Peggy?

(c) Starks & Samuel 2014

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Child: I see my mama sometimes (unsolicited)Inter: You see your mama sometimes? What’s

mama’s name?Child: Mama? Meg. Her real name’s not Meg.Inter: What’s her real name?Child: I forgot.Inter: What’s her last name.Child: Loveless.

Conversation continues, mostly about pets

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Inter: Elizabeth, do you know why you’re here today?

Child: Uh-Uh, no.Inter: You talked to your mom, mom Carla.Child: Mommy.Inter: Mommy? How am I going to know the

difference between mommy Carla and mommy Meg?

Child: That’s not mommy.Inter: Megs not mommy. So if I ask …..Child: She’s my mamaw.

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Detec: Susie, who is that?Inter: That’s Meg, I think.Child: Peggy.Detec: Who is Peggy?Child: Peggy’s my mom.Inter: Is that the same person as Meg?Child: No, she’s my mamaw.Inter: Your mamaw, is she somebody’s mama?Child: Yeah, mommy’s.

(c) Starks & Samuel 2014

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Inter: That’s mommy’s mommy? Carla’s mommy?

Child: Yeah.Inter: Ok, so we got mommy Carla, mamaw

Meg and who is Peggy?Child: My mommy.

1.What are Carla’s, Meg’s & Peggy’s relationship to Elizabeth?

2. Whose mother is Meg?

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DOUBLE NEGATIVESAnswer the following questions:

(Myers, 2000)

1. Do you agree that Oregon is north of California?

2. Do you agree that Oregon is not north of California?

3. Do you deny that it isn’t incorrect to say that Oregon is not south of California?

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LOCATION/POSITION

Check child's understanding of: -on-in (use a cup & pen)-over-under -inside-outside Ask: Did his hand/private/mouth

touch your skin?

(c) Starks & Samuel 2014

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TIMENOBODY estimates time accurately!

Children are better at measuring time relative to events that are meaningful to them, rather than by the abstract concept of hours, minutes.

Ask about events relative to a particular TV program, a holiday, a family tradition, the usual routine.

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From a 13-year-old:Q: When did that happen?A: In the fall, near winter.Q: What makes you think it was "in the

fall, near winter"?A: Because when he did it to me I kept

looking out the window. There was this big tree that I could see from my bed... and I saw the leaves on the tree. Almost all the leaves were gone, but some were still there.

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From a 14-year-old:Q: When did that happen?A: When I was little.Q: How little?A: Little, little...9 years old.

From a 7-year-old:Q: When did that happen?A: A long time ago, when I

was 6.

(c) Starks & Samuel 2014

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DESCRIPTIONS

The question, "What did he look like?" assumes the child understands that investigator wants to know about height, weight, hair color, age etc.

Where should the child start?

Example: Fight on Main Street

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AGE

Age is a difficult concept for young children. They can't accurately estimate a person's age, but they may know if someone is a "grown-up or a kid"; old enough to drive a car; to be a mommy; to be a grandpa.

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FREQUENCY – HOW MANY TIMES

Tie the sexual contact to a repetitive event. Then compute (approximate) the number of times.

Charges v. number of times.

(c) Starks & Samuel 2014

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FRAMING

Framing assists children (and adults) in successfully making the transition from one topic to another. Examples:

“Now I want to talk about what happened in the bathroom.”“We’ve talked about your Uncle Johnny. Now I want to talk about..”

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ABSTRACT CONCEPTS

Young children have difficulty understanding abstract concepts such as “truth and lie”. The more concrete the presentation, the more likely the child will understand and respond appropriately.

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TRUTH & LIE

Young children:

Cannot differentiate – “What’s the difference….”

Cannot define – “What is the truth?”

CAN demonstrate or identify – “If is said there was a duck on my head….”

(c) Starks & Samuel 2014

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TRUTH & LIEASK:“Is it better to tell the truth or a lie?”“What happens in your house if you tell a

lie?”

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TRUTH & LIE

“Will you promise to tell the truth today?”

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TRUTH & LIE

From a 7 year oldQ: (judge) “What happens if you tell a

lie?”A: (child) “You’ll go to Hell.”Q: “Is that all?”A: “Isn’t that enough?”

(c) Starks & Samuel 2014

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LITERAL INTERPRETATIONS

Young children are literal and concrete!

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Chapter 7:

COMMUNICATING WITH CHILDREN

(c) Starks & Samuel 2014

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THINK LIKE A KID(literal & concrete)

• “There was a giant bird..”

• “He sat on my head.”

(c) Starks & Samuel 2014 50

ONE OF YOUR BEST COMMUNICATION TOOLS

• SILENCE !!!!!

(c) Starks & Samuel 2014 51

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(c) Starks & Samuel 2014 52

3 years old

15 Months

(c) Starks & Samuel 2014 53

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UYBqfoNhDo

Effectively communicating with young children is more than

worth the effort!GOOD LUCK!

Susie Samuel, 2014

(c) Starks & Samuel 2014 54