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Version 1, June 2017 OFFICIAL
PHASE 1 CENTRAL PARK CONSULTATION 22 May to 3 June 2017
CAFÉ
Do you agree with the proposed location of the café?
Do you have any comments about the location of the café?
easy access Easily accessible from all areas.
It might be difficult for the elderly or those with
walking difficulties to get to, although it appears it
would be in a nice, green area away from traffic noise
etc.
Excellent location
Looks fine but if weather is poor, may be a factor in
people not coming.
Yes although it's close to the life centre and that cafe
this is the only sensible area for deliveries and any
changes PAFC may bring in
It may be better to move the cafe closer to the play
area.
It is quite close to the life centre cafe not sure what
impact that will Have. We went to blaise castle park
cafe in Bristol the other day. The park and cafe there
are amazing maybe a field trip would be useful
I think the location is OK as long as there will be
disabled access, decent toilet facilities, thought given
to proper recycling (refundable deposits, perhaps) and
food waste is properly managed using the anaerobic
digestion plant at Langage. There should be proper
dishwashing facilities and one use only recepatacles
should not be encouraged unless they are properly
biodegradable. No more plastics please!
This is a good position for the cafe.
The funding for Park Rangers who are part security,
part guides and tourist information points. Mobile and
foot patrols who can keep an eye on vandalism and
crime.
would it be cheaper to integrate it with the building
identified as a community hub
Further away from the life centre as there is already a
cafe there.
Should be easy for the elderly and infirm to walk to.
Have good views of things going on. LOTS of toilet
facilities plus dog poo bins nearby
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The location is not of great im;ortance. The facilities
provided are important
It's a good location.
No. But please have a dog friendly space so dog
walkers can enjoy the cafe in all weathers. I.e. A
covered outdoor area like at Saltram
My only concern would be security , if it was within
view of the life centre this may deter vandalism
Against take away people will just drop their rubbish,
and school children will use it for a takeaway lunch
hub. We want a Quality café using local ingredients,
home cooked food and vegetarian options we do not
want a chain. Those up for tender should have well
trained staff would to see live music at a weekend
tasteful, soothing jazz music not high volume pop
music
Should be on the edge, so people can drive to,
overlook park. The centre should be quiet free from
traffic and crowds
Think the location is fine Make sure there is enough space around it. Consult
Prime Cafe- Hannah Burke
If the park is maintained well throughout the year.
Then I feel this wi be a positive step for Central park.
perhaps make it slightly more off set away from the
main pathway to reduce potential congestion
I think this is the perfect spot for the cafe, central in
the area where most visitors will be attracted. It
would be good to see some kind of covered
performance area on the events field to cater for live
entertainment. Perhaps a band stand similar to that in
Devonport Park. I do not believe it is necessary for
the cafe to sell alcohol except for when there is an
event on in the park.
The Cafes that are successful in parks across the
country have a water play area close by. Is it possible
to have a paddling pool for hot summer days where
children can splash in cool water that is shallow with
water jets? If you want the cafe to be successful and
popular, you should create a reason to be sat there.
You could actually have 2 cafes in Central Park, one in
a quiet area for those who want a coffee with a view
and peaceful tranquility and one for families.
Should be near cycle park and car park. Could it serve all day and evening meals?
I think this is a good central location for the café -
although maybe it is too close to the Life Centre? In
any case this would allow children and parents to
access the café nearer to the playable area.
Seems a good central location
Maybe closer to the play park. Please make no vaping areas in the play parks and
cafes as we have with smoking.
No not really would like to see it witha view to
enhancing area and with a natural view and little
impact to surrounding nature. Could make it so there
is a beautiful view encouraging visitors to engage
&interact with nature
As I live locally it is unlikely I would use the cafe, but
the provision of toilets within this building would be
warmly greeted by all I would suspect.
It's too near the Life Centre which has its own cafe.
It's also near the Pitch & Putt area where
refreshments are also on sale. This would also
concentrate everything in one fairly small area and the
rest of the Park with nothing.
might be better further away from the life centre.
seating, tabling, foul weather cover. It looks a sensible option, with visibility to the park,
skate park and access to the sport/recreation facilities.
Ensure access is level/appropriately ramped for the
elderly and disabled and for prams/pushchairs. Plenty
of outdoor seating with shelter for sunny/rainy days
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Parents need to be able to see children in the play
area.
It is some distance away from the car park so need to
ensure full route is easily accessible for wheelchairs
and pushchairs.
This location seems to be central to all activities and is
like Rome (all paths lead to it).
I think thats exactly where it should be
I think the location is spot on, its central, close to the
car park and the kid park I couldn't think of a better
place to have it. I think what would be beneficial is
having toilet facilities instead of having to go all the
way to the life centre to go toilet which is pretty far if
your child.
Please ensure the cafe has toilets and the community
sports hub has showers
Maybe a little further from the life centre I do not agree with the need for a café in this area.
it is already served by the pitch and putt and the Life
Centre cafes
Good Location Well sheltered from road Yes although it is quite close to the Life Centre
Seems a good accessible location the cafe would be in an excellent location very easy to
find
It should be similar to Devonport Park Good location - central
It would appear to be in a good location and I assume
that there will be suitable parking for visitors and for
the disabled. Any parking charges should be
reasonably low, so as to attract visitors at various
times of the day and all year.
Coffee shop only
It would be good if similar in location to the play area
as in Devonport park
the cafe appears to be in a central position ideal for a
cuppa
South facing outdoor seating area would be beneficial,
cycle hire could be provided with maps showing the
cycle network to improve cycle use around the city
Could be a bit lower. Aim for it to have a view of the
sea if possible
Sounds good Maybe a bit close to life centre and golf hut.
Everything is close together, toilet and refreshments
facilities in all locations of the park
Why place a Cafe here, when the Life centre, which
has a cafe and eating area, is only a stones throw
away? Include a Cafe in the new Community Sports
Hub, if you want another Cafe in that particular area.
At present the Pitch & Put has a small outdoor
Cafe/seating area, also. How many Coffee shop seating
area's do you need within 200m of the life centre?
Include a Cafe somewhere different in the Park, such
as in the heart of Pound House, where the gardens
can restored to their formal glory and appreciated.
Good location-central.
No, but some sort of Community Interest and focus
from the cafe would be good, rather than somewhere
that charges the earth to a potentially captive
audience. The cafe at Devonport Park seems to work
well. Hot and cold food and drinks, snacks, a hub for
people to meet and have a chat etc....could this
possibly be copied. Also, an up-to-date and regularly
updated notice board, both for formal and community
events in the local area.
There is a need for an affordable cafe selling snacks
,ice creams, crisp, sandwiches, pasties, cones of chips,
buns, selection of drinks ,needs to be near the park,
kept very clean, with friendly staff and toilets
Further away from Park to avoid it being rammed with
children. A cafe is already located in the life centre
(very close). A cafe nearer to the Peverell end (with
duck pond) would be great.
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It'll be too far for some people. but is central to many
activities. Try it. See what happens. it might encourage
inactive people to walk more. why have a cafe next to
a car park? Get people out on their legs.
Very close to the golf site cafe - however would
prefer a more purpose build child friendly cafe.
Perhaps nearer play area Quite central
A captive audience with parents taking their children
to the play park. Seems like a winner to me.
Great for parents/child minders who do not want to
stroll to far away from the play park, with the nearest
being the Life Centre, which doesn't seem very
welcoming or accessible unless you are a member.
i would prefer the cafe to be integrated with the
sports hub as stated in my previous comments.
however i feel if this is not possible i am happy that
there will be a cafe. if it were combined with the
sports hub the general public may see our bowls and
take an interest in the sport
Near the children's playground area would be good
i would prefer the cafe to be integrated with the
sports hub as stated in my previous comments.
however i feel if this is not possible i am happy that
there will be a cafe. if it were combined with the
sports hub the general public may see our bowls and
take an interest in the sport
You have a perfectly good café in the Life Centre
and at the pitch and putt if needs be I think money
could put to better use elsewhere
Near the central 'roundabout' seems the best location. Seems like a good place
It's probably the best option from a commercial
viability point of view given the amount of footfall the
Life Centre gets. However realistically at the position
shown above, people already have access to the Life
Centre cafe/toilets and the pitch and putt shop.
Perhaps a small site on the other side of the proposed
tennis courts might be viable, being more central - and
would mean users coming from the Peverell end of
the park (Inverdene entrance) are more likely to
access it. There is an expanse of rough grassland on
the top of the hill (off the top right of the map shown
above) that might be put to good use although I would
hope that any development there was very
sympathetic with the surrounding area and measures
were taken to address the risk of increased littering.
There is a cafe in the Life Centre and one on the golf
course, while other parts of the park are not served at
all. I like the idea of the cafe proposed near the Barn
Park entrance , but would also like to point out that
there is already the potential for a good sized cafe
with a terrace at Pounds House. This would be a
beautiful setting, with a view down the avenue of
trees, and could be a much cheaper alternative. It
could also help pay for itself by offering itself as a
venue for private functions - it is large enough for
both uses.
should be further into the park, so not so close to the
life centre
It is very near to the Life Centre Cafe but if it is
quieter and had outdoor seating then it would be used
I think.
Excellent location, will bring Central Park up to
European standards!
As long as the rates include that they need to clean
the area around it and are responsible for the litter.
There are already cafe facilities in the Life Centre. A
new cafe should surely be moved further into the park
and away from the current developments - maybe
further towards Barn Park
Make disabled friendly changing place toilet facility.
Cheap prices.
Make sure area is provided with suitable litter bins,
which are emptied regularly.
Not near the Life Centre
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It concentrates everything on the centre of the park,
to the detriment of the equally important and popular
peripheral areas. Also, might parents be tempted to
leave their children unsupervised for long spells of
time in the play area while the eat ands drink?
It'll be too close to the life centre cafe and the pitch
and putting cafe.
Cafe is a fab idea, but bit to close to the life centre,
who also have a cafe. Maybe put it a bit further down.
Not sure of the need. Only a short distance from the
Lifecentre and the golf but. These both currently
provide refreshment
Good central location Combine it with proximity to an Events Hub - see
previous page in survey Qs
Needs to be central in the park for all to use. Location looks fine
The main map also shows a cafe near the Barn Park
end . Is this just a typo or a hangover from the plan of
several years ago ?
I'm not sure it's really necessary. I'd prefer as little
development as possible in the park.
The field cannot be blank. Why not if I have no view
????
Up by Pounds house for the cafe, nice location.
Great spot generally this is the busier area of the park
and easy to access for disabled and families with
children playing in the park.
Would be nice to have connecting routes to non-
developed quieter parts of the park for those with
children who want to pick up drinks to take on quiet
walks.
Accessible for families while kids are playing, open
access to invite custom (integrated into green space)
with plenty of outside seating.
I think cafe would be better sited along with the golf
hut so it can be used by parents, golfers and dog
walkers. By the clock is too busy in summer months
the large grass area is very busy with family picnics and
ball games, room will be limited, if by the golf hut
more table and chairs can be put around or people
can sit on grass areas opposite in tree shade or sun.
Would be great to grab a hot chocolate or coffee
when passing through.
As always the security of premises must be
paramount. Will there be better lighting cctv and
security overnight to protect from vandalism and
graffiti?
No, just fence it in or all the dogs will be going in to
take the food as you know dogs have fantastic sense of
smell. I hope the stink of fried food does not emanate
into the park.
I think it wold be good on the back of the bowling
green, I think the set up at devonport park works well.
I guess it would also be good to have it overlooking
kiddies park.
Great place for cafe. Needs security overnight
does put it over near the life centre, play area - good
but also means it might not be very relaxing! I hope
that in common with many independent cafes
throughout the land it will be dog friendly. For much
of the year dog walkers are the main users of the park
and to banish them to outside would be unfair,
unnecessary and remove a significant all year market.
Nearer sports hub please
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Whilst I have concerns that having the cafe next to the
playing fields will be an excuse for adults to leave their
children whilst they are playing I do believe that having
a cafe in a central part of the park is important. There
needs to be plenty of signage stating that kids cannot
be left unattended whilst adults are taking a break in
the cafe.
Great vantage point, easily accessible from car park.
I think this is a good central location. Easy to find, seems central, good choice
This would detract business away from the cafe at the
golf course. A new cafe would be great but at the
other end of the Park. Everything is based around this
area of the Park and needs to be spread out
As far as possible, it should blend into the green park
space and encourage people towards lesser used parts
of the park, whilst still giving good access for the less
able-bodied.
Central location, large veranda area with seating Trees could be planted to hide the rear of the cafe
(south of it in the above image).
It is fairly close to the Life centre and pitch and putt
(both already with cafes).
It is too close to the Life Centre and will not persuade
people to come further into the park.
Should be where the golf cafe is currently as not
everybody wants to have refreshments when there
are children about as it can be less relaxing.
Please don't further commercialise our outdoor
spaces.
There are already 2 cafes. 1 in the life centre and 1 at
the golf. Another would dlliute revenue and force at
least 1 of the others out of business. Expand the
existing facility at the golf to incorporate indoor
seating, bar/restaurant.
It should have a clear view of the park from there so
older children can play and be seen by parents at the
cafe.
It might be a bit "In your face" in that location. Looks OK...still could be closer to the kids playground
although I'm not exactly clear where that is on this
map? Doesn't look that much closer than the life
centre currently is
Keep the cafe central, clean, good upkeep - provide
excellent access. Keep the cafe as an 'eat in' - it will
keep the waste/rubbish issue to a minimum.
It should blend with the landscape.
This site is on the edge of the Events field. How will it
fir in with others using this field - the fair, circus etc.
Also too close to the Life Centre. I feel it needs to be
further into the Park.
Could provide for other groups i.e. dog walkers, the
elderly.
Litter? Will attract trade
Should be able to buy hot meals. Or just a tea or
coffee Seating outside available in the summer
needs to accommodate dogs
It probably should be further from the life centre but if
using an existing building fine.
clock tower area with toliet
Seems as good as any. prefer it to be in the hedge opposite the bowling
greens
It should have healthy food and ramp access central for dog walkers
Location is ok. signage Peverell way
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There are enough places centrally to get a drink etc eg
The Life Centre and the fabulous job that has been
done by the owners of the golf green. The cafe should
be placed in a different location to encourage users to
use others parts of the park rather than just the main
crossroads
good cut path
Make sure there is plenty of space for outside seating
(some covered).
further down
We have carefully considered the proposed location
of the café and, on balance, believe that it would be
better sited near the position shown in the 2013
Masterplan.
Locating the café next to the Clock Tower
roundabout will bring the following issues:
• Its main users will be those who already pass on
their way to or from the Life Centre, playground and
PAFC. It will not encourage people further into the
park and may not attract new user groups.
• Passing trade is likely to influence the customer offer
with snacks predominating as with the Life Centre and
Golf Hut currently. There could be three outlets
within 300 metres all with similar food offers.
• It will not be possible to run the Golf Course from
this distance so the opportunity to consolidate
facilities will be lost.
• There is already congestion around the clock tower
when the fair and circus are on the Events Field –
perhaps for six weeks every year – and a café will
further reduce the available space.
• There will be issues about hot-dog stalls, etc,
competing with the café when the Events Field is being
used for events.
• The new toilets, whilst welcome, will be fairly close
to the Life Centre toilets and hardly convenient for
people on the sports plateau or in the Valley.
This would be much better if there were a route for
cars to access it so disabled people could make better
use. Disabled parking spaces outside? Some people
cannot walk very far and even with walkers may not
be able to walk the distance from the designated
spaces. The number of designated spaces is not very
good as you have 300 or more spaces in the carpark
closest and only 6 spaces which is about 1/3 of the
standard government guidelines. Accessibility should
be a major priority as without it you exclude a large
proportion of the population in Plymouth. It is after all
supposed to be the peoples park.
Quite near the life centre café? ideal
Accessible for everyone proximity to life centre may be an issue
main meeting area central
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Which style of café do you prefer?
If a café was provided how likely would you be to use it?
79.79% said they were very
likely, or likely to use the
café.
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What time of day would you use it?
Would you use it all year?
Would you visit the park more regularly if there was a café?
Would you like the café to offer?
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How important is indoor seating?
How important is outdoor seating?
What should it serve?
90.87% said indoor
seating was very
important, or important.
94.02% said outdoor
seating was very
important, or important.
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Should the café have public toilets?
Do you think the café should have an alcohol licence?
How much would you be likely to spend per head during a visit to the café in the park?
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Do you have any other comments on this section?
Small alternative café's at various locations around the
park
There should be toilets for patrons only
Different, calm spot for cafes, maybe distributed
around
A cafe should be a destination serving good food. Not
just the usual. Great salads as well as bacon sarnies :)
A café at the clock tower is to be welcomed, I’m less
sure about further cafes at the pitch and put and Barn
Park entrance, I would urge that at least one of the
proposed cafes includes a space (room) to provide an
information point about the park, this could be
manned on a voluntary basis, at peak times, for events
only and may not be used immediately. It would be
essential to include this at an early stage as adding this
facility later would be impossible. It may be that at
some time in the future the Friends of Central Park
group would wish to provide this service. This space
should be of sufficient size to provide a useful source
of information.
Healthy food should be the name of the game NO
burgers beans and chips!!! healthy salads, wraps ,
sandwiches of quality. There definitely needs to be an
Italian coffee machine, availability of fruit teas,tea, hot
chocolate, quality juices, yogurt and homemade
cakes..Sparkling & still water, start as we mean to go
on, the council has got to be seen to not be
promoting cheap coke, fizzy drinks,lemonade and
other sugar full drinks. This should all be made clear in
the tender for the contract. Staff should have a
uniform and look fit for purpose , a grey apron with
logo for café, a white shirt/ blouse fits the bill, black
shoes .
Barn park should have a café The park must have public toilets
Food trucks instead of the café I would generally be with my wife and we would
normally have a bun and coffee or a lunchtime snack
A cafe would be a good idea, but it should not
encourage loitering. There is nothing worse than
wanting to visit a cafe only to find it filled with
teenagers who are not paying for the services and just
using up seating. Alcohol would also encourage the
wrong types of visitors. It needs to be aimed at dog
walkers, mums, elderly etc. It should be something
that is nice to visit. Toilets would be good, but
perhaps for customers only? Outside public toilets are
always dirty and mis-used. Plenty of bins nearby are
also a must to prevent littering. Simple but tasty and
affordable food items rather than 'trendy' items that
alienate some customers.
It is quite hard to see the design and style of the cafe
building in the pictures and I think it is very important
that this is sympathetic to the surrounding area.
Outside seating to allow for enjoyment of the park is
critical. A food offer that is very different to the Life
Centre is also likely to be critical to its success or
failure. An independent operator rather than a
corporate chain is probably the only style that would
attract me and my family.
Please refer to the notes I made before I answered
these questions.
Decent coffee and drinks for children, less sugary
snacks. Hot food would be useful
This must be managed and staffed by hospitality
professionals or individuals enthusiastic to learn
quickly, be civil friendly and knowledgeable about the
fayre they produce and retail
I regularly organise Buggy walks with NCT and we are
always looking for Pram and baby friendly cafes to End
Our walks on.
Please do not provide alcohol as it would only make
Argyll match days even more chaotic as crowds may
stick around to drink.
reasonable priced food and snacks would be a benefit
I am a garndparent, any comment I have mace relates
to how I would have liked things to be for my
grandchildren who are now free spirits
Maybe open on selected evenings during the summer
for themed food nights eg Tapas, curry, etc
keep everything simple
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Make sure plenty of bins are available. People are
mostly tidy, but become frustrated if inadequate bins
are not available.
I have chosen cafe style C as it fits with the style of
the life centre
Rubbish bins outside as well as inside Decent food
Cafe should offer healthy alternatives - vegetarian and
vegan.
Natural design is better, less glass and steel, more
wood and glass.
Must be dog friendly Near the allotments would be good, should offer a
loyalty scheme
Get it done for 2020 celebrations Healthy and affordable. Options for dietary
requirements. Consult Prime Cafe- Hannah Burke
I wouldn't use a cafe. to ensure the application of renewable/energy efficient
tech as part of the building
The key is to not have too big a choice on the main
meals menu but a regularly changed menu, providing at
least one healthy option in the main meals and one
vegetarian. say 3-5 choices per day. No foam or plastic
takeaway packaging - paper or bamboo and edible
cutlery. There would be litter bins for plastic drinks
bottles and cardboard and one for food waste that can
be composted or sent to Langage. A limited
sweets/chocolate/snacks choice. Not cakes or biscuits
with trans fatty acids please. Teach people about the
food - provenance is important to many people. Foods
like good quality sandwiches, cheese on toast, beans
on toast, eggs on toast should be available all day.
Please use proper bread - no need for ridiculous
artisan bread prices but good quality. The prices need
to be realistic and good food does not need to be
overpriced. Please can we have people that can
actually cook, with fresh flavours and minimal
additives.
Plenty of bins for disposable rubbish have them close
by and maybe a plastics bin show and teach how more
plastic can be damaging ti nature also . This could ve a
real opportunity to help conservation of our green
spaces. Think overall Plymouth Council do a great job
with it but more is needed & would be cost effective.
Would love to see a small lakeor pond near cafe to sit
with a drink or snack watching birds etc would be
wonderful. Give people pride in it & more likely to
look after it & surrounding areas. Been great learning
tool fir younger children too. We'd be excited about
something like this & more likely to visit.
cafe needs to be open and give presence on-site Dog friendly as is devonport park and a separate
children's area
If done properly this could be a real bonus to the
park, but it should be used to open up space not yet
used, and not right next to the play park. That is
already well serviced by the life centre-I and many
childless people I know would be put off from using
the cafe if proximity was close to this
Cafe and toilets would be great. Changing place also
very important!!
Cafes are great spaces for community engagement -
however it would be great if the cafe were able to
serve items which are affordable and healthy (unlike
the Life Centre cafe). Also, an efficient system for
taking and fulfilling orders would maximise the use of
the cafe and general customer satisfaction - again, I
think this is a key problem area with the Life Centre
cafe.
if I used the cafe it would be for drinks or snacks . I
definitely do not agree with alcohol being sold at the
cafe this would just incite trouble and the wrong sort
of person in the park .
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Would the cafe be open all year round? Although the
park is busy in the summer, some days in the winter
it's practically deserted. Would it be staffed by
volunteers?
Variety of menu is important
It needs to cater all dietary requirements of all
communities.
Home grown veg and fruit sales in veg boxes for
approx £10
snacks & treats. I have not answered all the questions because it would
depend on what is on offer within the Park for my
granddaughter, in which case we are likely to use the
cafe fairly frequently for lunch. Most places have an
alcohol license, perhaps appropriate to have one, it
does not necessarily encourage someone to drink and
drive. Many walkers may enjoy a drink whilst using the
Park.
A café would be a much used asset. I would only be against takeaway food because of the
potential litter issue.
Use other parks with cafes like Devonport park should be provision of litter bins
I would like to see the cafe to sell the common
food,drinks and snacks nothing to fancy and at a good
price as most cafe's I've been to has been double or
triple the price of something that I could get cheaper
in the city centre so a far price I'd very important. It
was hard to comment on price as it depends on what I
would purchase if the family is out having a meal then I
would pay between the £5-£10 But if it's for lunch
or just a snack up would like to see prices under £5
Indoor seating is important all year round. In the
summer months the outside seating area would
become equally important when there are more
visitors to the Plymouth area and locals out for a walk
on a "nice" day. I responded "yes" to serving alcohol as
myself, my friends & family are responsible around
alcohol consumption but I do have slight reservations
as there are some who may abuse the opportunity
which may then lead to anti social behaviour,
therefore perhaps alcohol shouldn't be
available...having a cafe that makes all feel welcome is
more important.
If there were better facilities in the park, many many
more people would use it. People would meet there,
particularly if seating/shelter was improved and access
to food, drink and toilets (disabled and baby change to
be considered) was provided. This would open central
park to a large section of community that currently
struggles to access public space. Look at models from
around the world (particularly Australia) where public
spaces are full every day. Whether just meeting with
friends and neighbours for breakfast, walking the dog
or having a child's birthday party. They provide
facilities such as cafes, toilets, disabled access, picnic
space, BBQ plates, drinking water, seating and shelter.
These spaces are fully utilised, well respected and
looked after by the public and maintained by the
councils and are an integral part of Australian daily life.
I would support a small cafe if it meant toilets were
made available to the general public and it was
reasonably priced. However if it ends up allowing
overpriced chains and developers to shoehorn their
way into Central Park then I am 100% against the idea.
Likewise I am against it if it means losing lots of green
space for access and parking. A reasonably priced non-
chain cafe managed in association with the council
could be used well as a hub for public local events in
the park. The cafe in Devonport Park seems good.
Central Park would require something with more
seating. A small stage for music/performances could be
a nice feature to add a buzz. The photo question
above is hard to interpret and needs more context -
it's not clear what features people are choosing so any
responses are open to misinterpretation. Selling
alcohol at the cafe could increase negative behaviour
(especially when football matches are on). The plan
above is close to the kids park and I am against the
idea
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a green roof on the cafe would be nice, locally
sourced, sustainable food should be served.
a cafe should be friendly warm and inviting for families
it should not be allowed to serve alcohol that only
attracts unwelcome people to hang around and ruin
the pleasant surroundings
Cafe perhaps have a defibrillator and first aid kit. Important to sell good quality hot drinks and food, not
instant coffee etc. This is one of the biggest drawbacks
of the life centre cafe.
Can we have a quality cafe. Proper barista trained staff
and customer service training and a more healthy
menus (not cheesy chips [metaphore] like Devonport
Park)
It would be nice for a cafe to complete a visit to the
beautiful park ,not staying open all hours,as the park is
not really used after 4.30. Except to dog walkers,but
no dogs in the cafe
Healthy options - homemade food - good coffee
would be fantastic
child friendly snacks and lunches would encourage
families with children to use the cafe whilst visiting the
play area. It should also be breast feeding friendly and
provide space to park pushchairs
to be dog friendly -I would use the cafe after 430pm on weekdays but
through the day on weekends. -I would prefer simple
healthy whole foods, with no vending machines for
sugary drinks and snacks. Please do not replicate the
food/drinks at the life centre cafe. We also ne
I would love a cafe in the park. The ones in Devonport
Park and Victoria Park are lovely and always busy.
Provide a Cafe, that is dog friendly, somewhere else in
the Park. The gardens at Pounds House would make
an ideal location for families to sit and relax.
all sections should have the 'I do would not use the
cafe' option or the results are flawed
It's a nice idea, but I am unlikely to come to the park
for a walk and to use the cafe. I have too many nice
cafes where I live or go. I rarely visit the park (though
yes, I walked there last month, and noted I hadn't been
there for years)
The cafe should have a range of affordable options
including healthy snacks and sugar free drinks
Ideally everything Devonport Park cafe has to offer.
Have free tap water at the cafe. Maybe on the side of
the building so it's accessible all times. Consider giving
it to a big franchise like Burger King, McDonalds as
this will draw in people and it's more likely it will be
open longer hours etc.
Is it possible to have an alcohol license only with an
evening meal if they are available?
A cafe that turned into a more sophisticated food area
after 6:00 (if viable to remain open in the evening)
would be a great idea. Perhaps using as a facility to
train catering students?
A lot of people use the cafe at the golf course as a
meeting place which is good, there is a sense of
community around the cafe.
As previously mentioned the cafe should be moved
further towards Barn Park. There should be ample
waste receptacles around the cafe for takeaway waste.
These must be emptied regularly to prevent overflow
Cafe A looks nicer as it is a natural wood effect and
would fit in with the park better.
A cafe promoting healthy eating would be great along
with environmental initiatives. I live close by so would
use the café regularly with my family.
Not sure if a cafe would make it messy and take trade
from the local golf place that has been there for years.
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It would be nice to have a restaurant too ... to attract
night-time visitors to the park
I visit both the cafes at Devonport park and Victoria
Park and both are excellent so something on those
lines would be good.
Cafe like Devonport park would be great My main concern with the cafe is increased need for
vehicular access
Loos need to be included and areas for dogs. Allow Golf Kiosk to continue. Room for both .
Devonport Park has a cafe and toilets, but you have to
ask for the key and I think this is a good idea
Cafe needs recycling bins. No alcohol. Both shady and
sunny outside areas. Simple, clean furniture.
Alcohol licence would be useful for one off events -
perhaps the park could do with a band stand for live
music events in the summer? Would be great if the
park was seen as a destination for families to eat out
on an evening too, with young family members able to
use the park before dinner, where parents could relax.
If a cafe is deemed necessary (I don't think it is) then I
hope the food and ambience would be better than
Devonport cafe! It should be environmentally
sensitive, light and airy, and with healthy, high quality
food
The cafe should be dog friendly Needs to be competitive on prices due to close
location to the life centre cafe.
Absolutely no alcohol to be sold there. Also, plenty of
litter bins to be provided in the vicinity and elsewhere
in the park.
Coffee shop style cafe
Cafes (note the plural) in different areas of the park
would enhance people's enjoyment of the park, as well
as attracting new visitors. They should not merely
concentrate on one type of park user and should
represent the broad range of interest that park users
have.
We are regular year round users of cafes on the hoe
such as the coffee shack but would prefer to be able
to use central park. This often incorporates after
work evenings (in summer) as well as daily weekend
visits. We only drink fresh ground coffee, not from a
machine. This may also be a great opportunity to
showcase local produce.
Only to reiterate the needs for Wcs, disabled WCs
(Radar), good disabled access & provision of litter bins
that are emptied regularly. The potential for litter is
why I'm wary about offering take-away food.
It wont make a lot of money in November will it ?!
I would like to see a cafe in Pounds House - a
crumbling and underused listed building. This could
rescue the building and save the cost of beginning
from scratch in your proposed location
Cafe need to be dog friendly, with dog friendly seating
area
I picked cafe 3 because it didn’t need ramps to be
accessible. This is really important to me and Id be
much more likely to use it if it is.
With a food offering different from the rest of the
city; this would be a very attractive destination for
families. I'm picturing yummy brunches, casual snacks
while kids are playing etc. With the right venue, it may
also be useful as a conference event venue?
Hope the cafe, will supply, food for people who have a
dietary problem. Such Gluten free. Provide baby food.
Cafe needs recycling bins. No alcohol. Both shady and
sunny outside areas. Simple, clean furniture.
Maybe echo friendly A code might encourage people t the park.
A separate smoking area for those sitting outside. Public toilets are essential
Great idea. More likely to visit the park People are overweight in the main, they can surely
survive a walk in the park without food.
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I live in Peverell and would love another park closer to
home, save me going into town or to mutley.
Important it is dog friendly though. If it wasn't I think I
would hardly go
A music licence, so local talent could be showcased,
especially in the summer months or for special
occasions.
Unless this proposed cafe is monitored carefully it will
become a target for vandals. A bench on the
roundabout itself was torched last year and never
replaced. To serve alcohol would lead to a major
sense of the place not being safe.
Look forward to visiting the new cafe!
Alcohol does not play a part in family or leisure areas
especially on hotter days. Could lead to problems.
Local shop and pub there if people fancy a tipple.
dog friendly cafe please - as stated above major users
of the park - deserve access like anyone else
Definitely no alcohol licence. No take away-except
drinks/snacks as this would increase littering.
There should be plenty of seating, toilets and plenty of
bins around the park
Must be run by incentivised staff interested in building
a relationship with the user, this will encourage them
to come back
Keep the Cafe modern, clean, graffiti free, do not
allow animals - keep it to an 'eat in' only basis to
reduce rubbish waste being dropped in the park.
Tender out the catering to a quality caterer and allow
for private hire.
It would be good to have toliets in other areas of the
park (i.e. bottom end) and also picnic benches.
The café has to be dog friendly or have a dog
friendly area - if not I will not use it.
Definitely agree with another cafe but I don't agree
with the proposed location of it
I think you need to make sure the toilets are
accessible and that baby changing should be separate.
Radar keys would make it easier for disabled people
to use the toilets and stop others from using them.
Good clean reliable public transport should be
provided to help ensure the cafe is well used and
attractive. No take away food or drinks because this
could cause a litter problem and alter the
"atmosphere" of the venue adversely.
Hot food should be available
If there were a cafe it should fit in with the
environment by having planted living walls/ roof and be
sustainably built.
The building needs to be able to accommodate anyone
who could make a profit from using it. Poole park
Dorset as an example.
The cafe should not offer the same as the Life Centre
and Golf Hut.
It must be affordable i.e coffee and tea should not be
more than £1.75 each and there should be a wide
range of snacks available for under a pound. The prices
should be cheaper than those in the life centre or the
majority of the public will continue to bring their own
snacks and drinks. The cafe at Freedom fields is an
excellent example of family friendly prices with price
marked packs. If prices are kept low people will use it
on a regular basis. With the installation of the cafe, if it
is going to serve takeaway as well there needs to be
more bins all around the park.
A park of this size must have a cafe to entice more
people in and make it have more of a community feel
to it.
Recommend a similar set up to Devonport Park cafe
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Cafe that allows dogs in the winter months as the park
is always empty in the winter and dog walkers are the
only people there so would help keep it in business
Would be very interested in a cafe if the prices were
reasonable. We like the life centre cafe but rarely use
it as the items are over priced. Tables should be
spread out as people will be put off if it looks
crowded.
Another cafe is not needed. Expand existing facilities.
The pictures are too small to see .
I would eat lunch every day here and invite friends
Possible conflict with Life Centre Cafe Prices in the cafe should be affordable. Not Costa
prices. If the cost of food and drinks was as high as the
Life Centre then it would not be used.
Some kind of 'lite bites' available all day would be
good.
Enough outdoor seating for people to sit and relax.
Indoor seating is important due to our weather
conditions.
I feel strongly about it NOT serving alcohol. This
would very probably lead to trouble and mess, and
lower the standard of the scheme.
The food needs to be better than the life centre.
Healthier and fresh. The improvements to the food at
Tavistock pool shows how it can be done. Smaller
menu but nicer quality and healthier.
The proposed site is too close to the Life Centre. I
visited the park on a very warm and sunny day with
many visitors taking advantage of the weather. There
was an ice cream van parked by the clock tower. At
least 30 people were in the queue for ice cream.
Imagine the pressure on a more permanent site. This
is not sustainable.
Why a permanent site? Why not have a number of
quality “Street Food” type provision. and mobile ice-
cream vendors on bicycles. Sustainable?
Whatever the options, there will be an increased litter
problem.
There is a possibility here for catering more events in
the park and also themed evening meal events, e.g.
Italian, Indian, world cuisine.
parent and baby changing rooms Cafe is needed
ensure variety of food and include children's sized
versions of adult food. cream tea!!!!
need to be dog friendly
Just hoping that it would be used have seen things put
in past toilets etc. zoo, and not been used so take
away.
it needs to be light, quality seating and food.
alcohol option - evening only with a meal