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MATERIALS TESTING LABORATORIESOCTOBER 2014

CONFIRMED

CONFIRMED MINUTESOCTOBER 20-22, 2014

PITTSBURGH, PENNSYLVANIA, USA

These minutes are not final until confirmed by the Task Group in writing or by vote at a subsequent meeting. Information herein does not constitute a communication or recommendation from the Task Group and shall not be considered as such by any agency.

MONDAY, OCTOBER 20 to THURSDAY, OCTOBER 22

1.0 OPENING COMMENTS – CLOSED/OPEN

1.1 Call to Order / Quorum Check

The Materials Testing Laboratories (MTL) Task Group (TG) was called to order at 8:00 a.m., 20-Oct-2014.

It was verified that only SUBSCRIBER MEMBERS were in attendance during the closed portion of the meeting.

A quorum was established with the following representatives in attendance:

Subscriber Members/Participants Present (* Indicates Voting Member)

NAME COMPANY NAME

* David Bale Pratt & Whitney Canada* Pietro Bonarrigo Bombardier, Inc.* Philippe Brailly SAFRAN Group* Arielle Corne Spirit AeroSystems* Doug Deaton GE Aviation* Colin Fletcher Bell Helicopter Textron* James Foster Honeywell Aerospace* Kevin Grace The Boeing Company

Claudia Granados Honeywell Aerospace* Dan Graves Goodrich (UTAS)

Xin Jin COMAC* Frank Lennert The Boeing Company* Muriel Malhomme Airbus* Jennifer McKeegan Cessna Aircraft Company

Noah Miller Triumph Group* Olivier Molinas Airbus Helicopters* Tim Myers Honeywell Aerospace Chairperson

Bruce Nanasy Rolls-Royce* Amanda Rickman Raytheon Co. Vice-Chairperson* Christian Schwaminger MTU Aero Engines GmbH

Len Tidwell Lockheed Martin CorporationBarry Ward Rolls-Royce

* Gary Winters Northrop Grumman Corporation

Other Members/Participants Present (* Indicates Voting Member)

NAME COMPANY NAME

Justin Bardash RTI Int’l MetalsPaula Bartlett Oerlikon Metco (Canada), Inc.Robert Bell AADFW, Inc.Peter Bittner ConstelliumSusan Caldwell Element Materials Technology


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Hugh Casper MTS Systems Corporation* John Chir Latrobe Specialty Steel

Gail Cole Alcoa HowmetJulien Corato ExovaMark Crevier Morton ManufacturingLyron Crumes Haynes International, Inc.Joan Curfman FN America LLCEric Dirats Dirats LaboratoriesNiall Dodds Exova (UK) LimitedBryan Engel Consolidated Precision ProductsDaryl Erickson Barnes AerospaceTimothy Esau Element Materials TechnologyRomeo Evangelista Metals Technology, Inc.

* Kay Fisher Bohler Edelstahl GmbH & Co KGDave Fluck Haynes International, Inc.Brendan Fullam Sturbridge Metallurgical ServicesRick Gassett Lisi AerospaceGrant Gatzen United Service Company, Inc.

* Brian Griffin Howmet Research CorporationCourtney Grimes Sturbridge Metallurgical ServicesTom Guilliams Element Materials TechnologyBryan Hall NSL Analytical Services, Inc.James Harlukowicz Wyman Gordon- Pennsylvania

L.L.C Mountaintop & Tru-Form Divisions

Kevin Hineman ATI Allegheny LudlumFrank Horton Carpenter Technology CorporationDaniel Hunt Haynes International, Inc.Dan Isherwood Yankees CastingAndrew Jackson AMPP Services, Ltd.Susan Jett Sturbridge Metallurgical Services

* Steve Keck Carpenter Technology CorporationDennis Kidd Cincinnati Testing Labs, Inc.Boyko Kirilov Alcoa Fastening SystemShelly Lawless Meyer Tool, Inc.Huili Liu Baosteel Special Metals Co., Ltd.

* David Luoni Element Materials TechnologyMike Markley Haynes International, Inc.Giuseppe Marzano Magellan AerospaceMichelle McDonald Alcoa HowmetCraig Mitchell Sturbridge Metallurgical ServicesNobuki Miyamoto Kiguchi Technics, Inc.Yukari Miyamoto Kiguchi Technics, Inc.Julie Motz Barnes AerospaceAndre Mulyono Absolute Technologies, Inc.Oveis Nayeri Lisi AerospaceRoger Ng Sulzer Metco (Canada), Inc.Sharon Norton Atlas Testing Laboratories

* Annette O’Connell Haynes International, Inc.Owen O’Grady Exova Europe

* Bob Olevson Element Materials Technology* Frank Peszka Laboratory Testing, Inc.

Barry Rafan Universal StainlessSara Randall Lucideon M+PJames Rauckhorst Tensile Testing Metallurgical Lab

* Douglas Reed Special Metals CorporationMark Richeson Haynes International, Inc.


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* James Rossi Westmoreland Mechanical Testing* Kevin Seidel Universal Stainless

Sanjay Shendye Hitchiner Manufacturing Co.Derek Sicotte Dirats Laboratories

* Byron Skillings ATI Ladish ForgingJeffry Smith Element Materials TechnologyHoward Spader Instron

* Shirley Strickland Lucideon M+PRyo Tagami Kiguchi Technics, Inc.

* T. Rao Tipirneni Long Island Testing Labs, Inc.Natia Turmanidze Lisi Aerospace

* Awwen Tyrsson Barnes AerospaceKevin Vecchiarelli Yankees Casting

* Jeff Viney Metcut Research Associates, Inc.* Kevin VonScio Perryman Company* Margaret Willis ATI Specialty Materials

Verl Wisehart N/A (retired)Frank Worpenberg Element Materials Technology

* Jason Wright Atlas Testing LaboratoriesYasuhiko Yasuda Metal Industries Research &

Development Centre

PRI Staff Present

Rob HoethJennifer KornrumpfKevin Wetzel

Introductions – CLOSED/OPEN

Attendees introduced themselves stating Name, Company, and Voting status.

1.2 Code of Ethics/Antitrust and Meeting Conduct - CLOSED/OPEN

Code of Ethics, Antitrust and meeting conduct was reviewed with the meeting rules and meeting voting protocol were also reviewed.

1.3 Present the Antitrust Video - CLOSED/OPEN

The Antitrust Video was presented.

1.4 Review Agenda – CLOSED/OPEN

A revised agenda was presented for changes to the posted agenda to accommodate attendance at the NMC Oversight Committee and optimization of working group time. This was accomplished by moving working sessions from the Tuesday afternoon to the morning and starting Tuesday at 8:00 AM as well as increasing the break for lunch on Monday. There were no objections. The revised agenda was adopted.

All presentations from the meeting are posted in www.eAuditNet.com under Resources → Public Documents → Materials Testing Laboratories → Nadcap Meeting Presentations → October 2014.

1.5 Approval of Previous Meeting Minutes - OPEN

The minutes from June 2014 were approved as written.

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2.0 REVIEW DELEGATION STATUS – CLOSED

The Metrics tab on the eAuditNet Dashboard and the t-frm-07s for all reviewers were reviewed. All current delegated reviewers (Kevin Wetzel, Jim Lewis, Rob Hoeth, and Bob Lizewski) continue to meet the requirements defined in NOP-003. After review of all comments addressed in t-frm-07s, there were no issues that required additional actions. All reviewers maintained their delegation status.

3.0 AUDITOR EVALUATIONS – CLOSED

All Auditors were reviewed for Supplier/Auditor evaluation, Subscriber observation, one on one Staff Engineer review and consistency data. Issues identified by the TG were addressed in one on one interview with the Auditor. This topic will only be on the agendas going forward for meetings that coincide with the Auditor Conference unless any particular issues need to be addressed.

4.0 MATTERS OF ACCREDITATION – CLOSED

4.1 Supplier for audit #157529, which is exclusively a machining facility, does not possess a 3rd party Quality System accreditation. It was noted the Supplier has maintained Nadcap accreditation for greater than 15 years. Discussion on how to maintain Nadcap MTL accreditation followed. ISO/IEC 17025 does not cover machining and AC7004 is not recognized by MTL.

Motion made by Tim Myers and seconded by Jennifer McKeegan to continue the accreditation process for this Supplier (Audit #157529 - applicable to this supplier only) using AC7101/1 only. No 3rd party Quality System accreditation required provided customer requirements are met. Motion Passed.

See agenda item 17.0 for additional action.

4.2 Audit #153725 is currently in Risk Mitigation Team Review without any team members assigned. A request was made and team was formed with Doug Deaton, Muriel Malhomme, Olivier Molinas, and Philippe Brailly, with the group leader to be assigned when the group meets.

4.3 Audit #145508 did not include the required 3 job audits. Auditor stated, “Laboratory does not have any job to Nadcap requirements, up to now” and “Lab told me that (Subscriber) has given just one trial order, and they never get orders anymore.” On previous 2 audits (an initial and SV1) there were 3 job audits each.

Motion made by Tim Myers and seconded by Doug Deaton to document in the MTL Task Group Audit Handbook (MTL HB) Supplement to use any jobs with priority given to existing non-aerospace jobs followed by lab-created jobs which demonstrate effective Quality System when aerospace/Nadcap jobs are not available. Must be able to address the four points in AC7101/1 Rev F 2.6. Motion Passed.

ACTION ITEM: Derek Sicotte to coordinate the addition in the MTL HB Supplement of the allowance to use any jobs with priority given to existing non-aerospace jobs followed by lab-created jobs which demonstrate effective Quality System when aerospace/Nadcap jobs are not available. Must be able to address the four points in AC7101/1F 2.6. (Due Date: 7-NOV-2014)

4.4 Discussion of Supplier requirements to add an alloy group to the scope of accreditation between audits occurred.

Motion made by Tim Myers and seconded by Doug Deaton to formally document in NTGOP-001 APP MTL the requirement for a Supplier to add an element/alloy to their AC7101/2 accreditation scope in between audits by Task Group Chairperson approval with Technical Advisory Group (TAG) /2 consensus of submitted proposal with justification. Motion Passed.


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ACTION ITEM: Kevin Wetzel to formally document in NTGOP-001 APP MTL the process for a Supplier to add an element/alloy to their AC7101/2 accreditation scope in between audits by task group chair approval with TAG /2 consensus of submitted proposal with justification. (Due Date: 30-NOV-2014)

Doug Deaton provided a presentation on how GE will be implementing a program for round robin testing. This program will be released before February 2015 and to be reviewed by the MTL TG at the March 2015 Nadcap meeting. GE will be seeking MTL TG acceptance of the program.

4.5 Auditors request an increase from 0.75 to 1.5 days for audit grading of AC7101/1 Rev F.

Motion made by Colin Fletcher and seconded to increase on the s-frm-16 the AC7101/1 audit days to 1.5 days until the October 2015 Nadcap Meeting. Motion Passed.

This change will be implemented as audits are scheduled. It will not affect currently scheduled audits.

ACTION ITEM: Kevin Wetzel to update the s-frm-16 to grade AC7101/1 audit at 1.5 days. (Due Date: 30-NOV-2014)

Motion made by Tim Myers and seconded by Jennifer McKeegan to create an ad-hoc team to lead the definition, collection and analysis of timeline data for audits until October 2015 Nadcap Meeting and have the data presented at the October 2015 Nadcap Meeting. Motion Passed.

Audit Grading ad-hoc committee formed to be led by Jennifer McKeegan with participants Bruce Nanasy, David Luoni, Annette O’Connell, Steve Keck, Colin Fletcher, and David Bale, supported by Kevin Wetzel. The objective of the committee is to present a method for data collection to be presented at the March 2015 Nadcap Meeting in Berlin and to have AC7101/1, /2, /4, /5 data available to present at the October 2015 Nadcap Meeting in Pittsburgh. Recommendations to the Task Group for audit grading will also be provided at this time.

ACTION ITEM: Kevin Wetzel to coordinate with Audit Grading ad-hoc committee team lead, Jennifer McKeegan to schedule meeting including members Bruce Nanasy, David Luoni, Annette O’Connell, Steve Keck, Colin Fletcher, and David Bale. (Due Date: 30-NOV-2014)

4.6 Current failure ballot #158211 and the lack of quorum in the current ballot was discussed. The ballot was extended until 26-OCT-2014 to accommodate the procedural requirement for quorum of all failure ballots.

5.0 NEW VOTING MEMBER APPROVAL & COMPLIANCE WITH VOTING REQUIREMENTS – OPEN

5.1 New Voting Member Approval

New Task Group Leadership appointments, Amanda Rickman Raytheon - Chairperson succeeding Tim Myers, Dan Graves-Goodrich (UTAS) - Vice Chairperson succeeding Amanda Rickman, were reviewed.

Arielle Corne of Spirit Aerosystems was proposed as an Alternate Subscriber Voting Member.

Motion made and seconded to accept Arielle Corne as an Alternate Subscriber Voting Member. Subscriber meets the background requirements of NTGOP-001 App MTL. Motion Passed.

James Foster of Honeywell was proposed as a Subscriber Voting Member.

Motion made and seconded to accept James Foster as a Subscriber Voting Member. Subscriber meets the background requirements of NTGOP-001 App MTL. Motion Passed.

Tim Myers of Honeywell was proposed as an Alternate Subscriber Voting Member.


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Motion made and seconded to accept Tim Myers as an Alternate Subscriber Voting Member. Subscriber meets the background requirements of NTGOP-001 App MTL. Motion Passed.

Kevin Grace of The Boeing Company was proposed as an Alternate Subscriber Voting Member.

Motion made and seconded to accept Kevin Grace as an Alternate Subscriber Voting Member. Subscriber meets the background requirements of NTGOP-001 App MTL. Motion Passed.

Awwen Tyrsson of Barnes Aerospace was proposed as a Supplier Voting Member.

Motion made and aseconded to accept Awwen Tyrsson as a Supplier Voting Member. Motion Passed.

Motion made and seconded to accept Kevin Seidel of Universal Stainless and Alloy Products as a Supplier Voting Member. Motion Passed.

All Voting Members were confirmed by the Chair. An m-frm-01 has been completed by all new Voting Members.

5.2 Compliance With Voting Requirements (Participation)

Voting Member responsibilities and adherence, meeting attendance and ballot participation were reviewed.

All Voting Members that are not meeting criteria have been contacted concerning their participation.

One (1) Subscriber and one (2) Supplier have missed two (2) consecutive ballots.

One (1) Subscriber Christian Schwaminger - MTU; has been approved by the Chairperson to be maintained as a Voting Member.

One (1) Supplier Doug Reed – Special Metals; has been approved by the Chairperson to be maintained as a Voting Member.

One (1) Supplier Kevin Hineman – ATI Allegheny Ludlum; has been approved by the Chairperson to be maintained as a Voting Member.

One (1) Supplier has missed three (3) consecutive meetings.

One (1) Supplier Stephan Greimers – Outokumpu VDM GMBH. Has been approved by the Chairperson to be maintained as a Voting Member.

6.0 PRESENT FEEDBACK FROM PREVIOUS MEETING – OPEN

Amanda Rickman gave a review of feedback received from the Dublin June 2014 Nadcap Meeting.

Meeting comments:

Progress on AC7101/2 and AC7101/5 was commended. Clarification requested on captive vs independent labs Clarification requested for the PTP/IRR Meeting execution continues to be pleasing Only 10 people provided feedback


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7.0 Nadcap TUTORIAL – OPEN

An MTL Task Group Tutorial was presented. No further discussion followed.

Bryan Hall gave a brief presentation concerning the Supplier Support Committee (SSC). This was an effort to increase MTL Supplier attendance at the SSC meeting scheduled for 21-OCT-2014. For complete details of the meeting, see the SSC Minutes posted on www.p-r-i.org.

8.0 ACTIVITY REPORTS – OPEN

Major Activity since last meeting

AC7101/11 Fastener Testing checklist revision working session Auditor interview – Not recommended by TG AC7101/3 Mechanical Testing – Ballot comment resolution

Review checklist revision status

AC7101/1 Rev F released AC7101/2 Rev D sent for NMC Affirmation ballot 14-OCT-2014 AC7101/3 Rev D 45 dayLletter ballot closed; complete ballot comment resolution at this

meeting AC7101/4 Rev E released AC7101/5 Rev D sent for NMC Affirmation ballot 14-OCT-2014 AC7101/11 Rev C working sessions this meeting

ASTM committee report outs:

The ASTM E01 Committee - Working on a Spark-AES method for nickel alloys and Titanium alloys. The expectation is that both methods are completed in 2015; The Guide for the Production of Reference Materials has been balloted and getting closer to being completed; A new practice is underway on the utilization of commercially prepared reference materials; Discussing the changes in certification requirements of combustion/fusion reference materials during the November meeting.

The ASTM E04 Committee – The only significant change is another ballot on ASTM E384 has closed with 9 negative votes.

The ASTM E28 Committee – Consistency in language for definitions for mechanical testing. The ASTM E08 Committee – Fatigue round robin for load control and strain control

underway.

Update on Technical Advisory Group (TAG) activity:

TAG /3 Activity - Doug Deaton provided update. There is one pending inquiry concerning specimen inspection.

TAG /7 Activity - Christian Schwaminger provided update. There is one pending inquiry concerning specimen inspection which is shared with the /3 TAG.

TAG /1 Activity – Kay Fisher provided a presentation summarizing the updates which will be added to the MTL HB. See the MTL HB for latest guidance.

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All TAG Groups will update the MTL HB / HB Supplements accordingly The TAG rosters were updated adding membership

MTL HB activity was reported by Bryan Hall. All items from the June 2014 Nadcap Meeting in Dublin have been incorporated in the MTL HB. The goal is to release MTL HB in the next two weeks and within two weeks following each Nadcap Meeting.

Ad-Hoc committee report out on Auditor consistency was by Gary Winters. NOP-012 data has been compiled for the last year including identifying top ten NCRs. The two main concerns are why one Auditor considers something acceptable while another does not and how deep should an Auditor look to verify compliance. The committee feels the depth an Auditor should look can be defined.

ACTION ITEM: Kevin Wetzel to forward updated Auditor consistency data and top NCR review to Gary Winters for distribution to the Ad-hoc team and the TAG chairs. (Due Date: 30-NOV-2014)

There was no update on the plan for an industry standard. Communication from NMC about industry standard creation update is expected in the future.

9.0 AGENDA REVIEW – OPEN

Revised agenda was reviewed and approved. See section 1.4 for additional details.

10.0 SUPPLIER PRESENTATION – OPEN

David Luoni of Element Materials Technology gave a presentation on Getting the Most from the Nadcap Experience. Key focus covered preparation, readiness, Staff Engineer contact, documentation, Auditor interaction, opening and closing meetings, understanding nonconformances, PTP/RR result availability.

11.0 AUDITOR CONFERENCE REPORT – OPEN

The key items from the Auditor Conference were reviewed:

MTL audit criteria AC7101/1, AC7101/2, AC7101/4 and AC7101/5 revision review TAG changes were presented MTL Audit Handbook review Technical Presentation on salt spray AC7102/8 pyrometry presentation Auditing practices

12.0 MTL VISION – OPEN

Tim Myers discussed the MTL vision. A questionnaire and a plan going forward was distributed to solicit feedback. Time was provided to complete the form and collected during the meeting.

13.0 CHECKLIST REVISION AND TAG WORKING SESSIONS – OPEN

Break out working session groups formed as follows:

TAG /1 Working Session AC7101/3 Ballot comments were resolved AC7101/2 Developed MTL HB guidance AC7101/11 Working Session


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14.0 TECHNICAL DISCUSSION – OPEN

A process for PT & IRR presented by Muriel Malhomme with multiple options for a participant to use to be compliant was proposed. Three options for processes which could be used to gather data for use in IRR data analysis were proposed. They included SPC, a specific IRR process, and Gage R&R. Also, two processes for selecting PT providers were presented, the first utilizing the recognized PT provider list or AC7101/1 Appendix C (Option 1 preferred over Option 2 over Option 3), when there is no test method offered by a recognized provider. The second would use any MTL approved or ISO Guide 43 accredited provider. Subscribers would designate which process to use, with the first process being the default if no process is specified. Complete details will be maintained in the MTL HB.

Motion made by Muriel Malhomme and seconded by Jason Wright to accept PT MTL HB Guidance proposed by PT/IRR TAG in her presentation by Subscriber Only Vote. Motion Passed.

Motion made by Muriel Malhomme and seconded by Jason Wright to accept IRR MTL HB Guidance proposed by PT/IRR TAG in her presentation by Subscriber Only Vote. Motion Passed.

ACTION ITEM: Derek Sicotte to coordinate the addition in the MTL HB the guidance proposed by PT/IRR TAG. (Due Date: 7-NOV-2014)

Motion made by Bryan Hall and seconded by Jason Wright to add to the March 2015 Nadcap Meeting an agenda item to clarify the purpose of the AGS program, determine if the current program is accomplishing this purpose and, if not, consider modifications to the existing program and alternative approaches that may accomplish the intended purpose. An ad-hoc group will meet prior to the next meeting to prepare. Motion Passed.

ACTION ITEM: Bryan Hall to form a Clarify the Purpose of the AGS Program ad-hoc group to meet prior to the next meeting to prepare. (Due Date: 30-NOV-2014)

ACTION ITEM: Amanda Rickman to add to the March 2015 Nadcap Meeting an agenda item to clarify the purpose of the AGS program, determine if the current program is accomplishing this purpose and, if not, consider modifications to the existing program and alternative approaches that may accomplish the intended purpose. (Due Date: 30-NOV-2014)

Julien Corato presented the AGS PTP next five year plan. Any questions should be sent to [email protected]

15.0 NADCAP MEETING REPORTS – OPEN

Bryan Hall reported on the SSC meeting. For complete details of the meeting, see the SSC Minutes posted on www.p-r-i.org.

Amanda Rickman reported on the Planning and Ops meeting. For complete details of the meeting, see the Planning and Ops meeting minutes posted on www.p-r-i.org.



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16.0 MTL PROGRAM STATUS – OPEN

Kevin Wetzel presented a review of the health of the MTL Task Group via the Dashboard in eAuditNet. The NMC metrics were reviewed by the Task Group. No action was required.

Kevin Wetzel presented a review of Auditor Capacity. Capacity can support the current audit requirements. MTL is always looking for additional Auditor candidates.

17.0 MEETING WRAP-UP – OPEN

TAG /2 Activity – David Luoni provided an update of the MTL HB guidance developed during the breakout session. Guidance was given for determining calibration ranges stated on Figure 1 and traceability/documentation of in-house and certified reference materials. Complete details will be maintained in the MTL HB supplement.

Bryan Hall presented the layout of the Material Testing Laboratories Task Group Audit Handbook.

Derek Sicotte spoke on the RAIL Coordinator responsibilities as he moves on to be the MTL HB Facilitator. Greg Lobosky accepted to take over as RAIL Coordinator.

Motion made by Tim Myers and seconded to create an “Expectations of MTL Audit Reviewers” document as an appendix to the MTL HB, modeled after the similar document for Chemical Processing (CP) TG. Content to be reviewed and assessed for applicability then published by an ad-hoc team using online meetings followed by publication with notification of release sent to TG roster. Motion Passed.

MTL Audit Reviewers expectations ad-hoc committee (based on CP document) formed to be led by Dan Graves with participants Tim Myers, Annette O’Connell, Bryan Hall and Jason Wright supported by Kevin Wetzel. The objectives of the committee is to draft MTL HB appendix ‘Expectations of MTL Audit Reviewers’ for TG review at June 2015 Nadcap Meeting in Montreal. CP document to be distributed after current meeting to the team. Write review criteria to the ‘Expectations of MTL Audit Reviewers’ for review of NCs against QMS procedures that had been previously accepted.

ACTION ITEM: Kevin Wetzel to distribute CP document to MTL Audit Reviewers expectations ad-hoc committee. (Due Date: 7-NOV-2014)

ACTION ITEM: MTL Audit Reviewers expectations ad-hoc committee to draft MTL HB appendix ‘Expectations of MTL Audit Reviewers’ as well as write review criteria for review of NCs against QMS procedures that had been previously accepted for TG review at June 2015 Nadcap Meeting in Montreal. (Due Date: 31-MAY-2015)

Motion made by Tim Myers and seconded to amend and document in the MTL HB Appendix A, the Handbook publication as follows: (1) The Handbook Supplements are included into the Handbook upon release with the relevant checklist and the updated Handbook published promptly. (2) Timeliness of supplement revisions are included upon mutual decision of the TAG Chair, TG Chair, and Handbook Coordinator not to exceed the following Nadcap meeting. (3) All Nadcap meeting conclusions to be included in the Handbook will be explicitly documented in the

meeting minutes in a specific section titled “Confirmed Handbook Content”. (4) The Handbook

release promptly after each Nadcap meeting will contain all the conclusions of the TAG/TG up to and including the Nadcap meeting. (5) TAG Chairs are responsible to ensure Handbook Coordinator receives revised Handbook Supplement which includes all relevant conclusions from Nadcap meeting promptly after the close of the Nadcap meeting. Motion Passed.


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ACTION ITEM: Derek Sicotte to coordinate the addition in the MTL HB Appendix A, the Handbook publication as follows: (1) The Handbook Supplements are included into the Handbook upon release with the relevant checklist and the updated Handbook published promptly. (2) Timeliness of supplement revisions are included upon mutual decision of the TAG Chair, TG Chair, and Handbook Coordinator not to exceed the following Nadcap meeting. (3) All Nadcap meeting conclusions to be included in the Handbook will be explicitly documented in the meeting minutes

in a specific section titled “Confirmed Handbook Content”. (4) The Handbook release promptly after each Nadcap meeting will contain all the conclusions of the TAG/TG up to and including the Nadcap meeting. (5) TAG Chairs are responsible to ensure Handbook Coordinator receives revised Handbook Supplement which includes all relevant conclusions from Nadcap meeting promptly after the close of the Nadcap meeting. (Due Date: 7-NOV-2014)

Motion made by Bryan Hall and seconded to revise AC7101/1 2.6 when revision G is considered, to remove the sentence “Within the job audits, all methods were reviewed.” and add Handbook guidance: “Auditor to review three jobs selected to be representative of the quality system and containing as many test codes as practical. If concerns are found, additional jobs should be selected until auditor has sufficient understanding of the situation.” In the meantime, upon unanimous subscriber support of all those in attendance, issue an Auditor Advisory effectively removing the need to examine job audits of all test methods. Motion Failed.

Motion made by Bryan Hall and seconded to revise AC7101/1 2.6 when revision G is considered, to remove the sentence “Within the job audits, all methods were reviewed” and add Handbook guidance: “Auditor to review three jobs selected to be representative of the quality system. If concerns are found, additional jobs should be selected until auditor has sufficient understanding of the situation.” In the meantime, upon unanimous subscriber support of all those in attendance, issue an Auditor Advisory effectively removing the need to examine job audits of all test methods. Motion Passed.

ACTION ITEM: Kevin Wetzel to issue an Auditor Advisory effectively removing the need to examine job audits of all test methods. (Due Date: 7-NOV-2014)

ACTION ITEM: Derek Sicotte to coordinate the addition in the MTL HB the guidance “Auditor to review three jobs selected to be representative of the quality system. If concerns are found, additional jobs should be selected until Auditor has sufficient understanding of the situation.” (Due Date: 7-NOV-2014)

ACTION ITEM: Kevin Wetzel to revise AC7101/1 2.6 when revision G is considered, to remove the sentence “Within the job audits, all methods were reviewed.” (Due Date: 31-DEC-2016)

Motion made by Tim Myers and seconded to document in the Audit Handbook that “audit criteria are to be audited literally” and include the following two examples: “From AC7101/1F 12.24 If the lab uses procedures which address revision of certificates, there is no NCR. It doesn’t matter “how” the revision is performed. AC7101/1F A10.2 If the lab uses procedures to review and approve other procedures, it doesn’t matter “how” that action is performed, only that there is evidence of review (as described by the dictionary) and approval (as described by the dictionary).” Motion Failed.

Motion made by Tim Myers and seconded to document in an Auditor Advisory: Where customer requirements overrule Nadcap audit criteria. Furthermore, if the lab is provided hardware by the customer and directed to perform a test for which they have suitable procedures, they are to perform and report according to customer requirements and their lab procedures. Motion Passed.

ACTION ITEM: Kevin Wetzel to issue an Auditor Advisory: Where customer requirements overrule Nadcap audit criteria. Furthermore, if the lab is provided hardware by the customer and directed to perform a test for which they have suitable procedures, they are to perform and report according to customer requirements and their lab procedures. (Due Date: 7-NOV-2014)


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Motion made by Tim Myers and seconded to have Kevin Wetzel review the applicable Audit (#158059, NCR14: Provided by Tim Myers) and provide a response about the request from the Supplier to the TG and the supplier. Motion Passed.

ACTION ITEM: Kevin Wetzel to review the applicable Audit (#158059, NCR14: Provided by Tim Myers) and provide a response about the request from the supplier to the TG and the Supplier. (Due Date: 30-NOV-2014)

Motion made by Tim Myers and seconded to document in “Expectations of MTL audit reviewers” or other formal location the following “TG allows suppliers to respond in eAuditNet “no corrective action required due to revised audit criterion/guidance” if new audit criterion have passed all TG balloting and a quorum of applicable TAG Subscriber members agree criterion no longer applies (or if guidance accompanying the new revision would have prevented the NCR). Root cause assessment still applies. The burden of documenting TAG agreement lies with the supplier” by Subscriber Only Vote. Motion Failed.

Motion made by Tim Myers and seconded to resolve the matter of “what records are required when” and document the results in the relevant Handbook Supplements. To be performed through each TAG or alternative ad-hoc team. Motion Passed.

ACTION ITEM: Tim Myers to coordinate the resolution of the matter of “what records are required when” and document the results in the relevant Handbook Supplements. To be performed through each TAG or alternative ad-hoc team. (Due Date: 28-FEB-2015)

Motion made by Tim Myers and seconded to allocate time at each future Nadcap meeting after the remaining checklist revisions are complete to address this matter until it is completed. Motion Passed.

ACTION ITEM: Amanda Rickman to allocate time at each future Nadcap meeting after the remaining checklist revisions are complete to address the resolution of the matter of “what records are required when” and document the results in the relevant Handbook Supplements until it is completed. (Due Date: 30-NOV-2014)

Motion made by Tim Myers and seconded to define and document in the MTL HB the intended use of the data in “Procedure Summary” topics “Current revision of procedures at time of current audit” and “Revision of Quality System procedures at date of last PRI audit”. That is, quality system procedures which have been audited to current criteria and have not been revised since last audit was closed cannot be the basis for NCRs at future audits. This premise is void after June 2015 Nadcap Meeting unless specifically revalidated by Subscriber Only Vote. Motion Failed.

Motion made by Tim Myers and seconded that “Task Group recommended best practice” be documented separately from the Audit Handbook, if at all. Motion Failed.

Motion made by Jennifer McKeegan and seconded to revise NTGOP-001 App MTL 15.2 to include “The MTL TG Subscribers have approved – For facilities that only perform specimen machining for mechanical testing (AC7101/7 test code Z, Z3 only) the facility shall have a valid quality system recognized by Nadcap NOP-002 (e.g. AC7004, AC7006, AS/EN/JISQ9100 or ISO/IEC 17025).” Motion Passed.

ACTION ITEM: Kevin Wetzel to revise NTGOP-001 App MTL 15.2 to include: “The MTL TG Subscribers have approved – For facilities that only perform specimen machining for mechanical testing (AC7101/7 test code Z, Z3 only) the facility shall have a valid quality system recognized by Nadcap NOP-002 (e.g. AC7004, AC7006, AS/EN/JISQ9100 or ISO/IEC 17025).” (Due Date: 30-NOV-2014)

Motion made by Tim Myers and seconded to document the following text in the MTL HB Section 4 “General Clarifications”. “Issues: compound criterion with part of it being not applicable; literal criteria interpretation. Situation: Lab received NCR because it did not perform periodic check after


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changing to V shaped anvil. AC7101/5C 10.3 specifically states in the first line “standard test blocks”. Since none are available for this anvil geometry, this is not applicable to this case. The Auditor should have selected “YES” because all other criteria were met. Furthermore, the Auditor interpreted “standard test blocks” from the first line of AC7101/5C 10.3 to mean “appropriate part of known hardness”. Audit criteria use carefully selected verbiage which are to be understood literally. Substitution of other meaning is prohibited.” Motion Passed.

ACTION ITEM: Derek Sicotte to coordinate the addition in the MTL HB Section 4 “General Clarifications”. “Issues: compound criterion with part of it being not applicable; literal criteria interpretation. Situation: Lab received NCR because it did not perform periodic check after changing to V shaped anvil. AC7101/5C 10.3 specifically states in the first line “standard test blocks”. Since none are available for this anvil geometry, this is not applicable to this case. The Auditor should have selected “YES” because all other criteria were met. Furthermore, the Auditor interpreted “standard test blocks” from the first line of AC7101/5C 10.3 to mean “appropriate part of known hardness”. Audit criteria use carefully selected verbiage which are to be understood literally. Substitution of other meaning is prohibited.” (Due Date: 7-NOV-2014)

Motion made by Tim Myers and seconded to document the following text in Audit Handbook Section 4 “General Clarifications”. “Recommendations or guidance of any kind in any industry specification are not to be interpreted as requirements. Recommendations include verbiage such as ‘should’ or ‘suggested’.” Motion Passed.

ACTION ITEM: Derek Sicotte to coordinate the addition in the MTL HB Section 4 “General Clarifications”. “Recommendations or guidance of any kind in any industry specification are not to be interpreted as requirements. Recommendations include verbiage such as ‘should’ or ‘suggested’.” (Due Date: 7-NOV-2014)

Motion made by Tim Myers and seconded to document the following text in Audit Handbook Section 4 “General Clarifications”. “Procedures need not document actions which should not be performed unless requirements documents specifically prohibit relevant actions.” Motion Passed.

ACTION ITEM: Derek Sicotte to coordinate the addition in the MTL HB Section 4 “General Clarifications”. “Procedures need not document actions which should not be performed unless requirements documents specifically prohibit relevant actions.” (Due Date: 7-NOV-2014)

Motion made by Tim Myers and seconded to enlist each TAG to define test codes for all test methods/processes within its scope and provide the list to the TG Chairperson for discussion at the next meeting. Motion Passed.

ACTION ITEM: Tim Myers to enlist each TAG to define test codes for all test methods/processes within its scope and provide the list to the TG Chairperson for discussion at the next meeting. (Due Date: 13-FEB-2015)

Motion made by Bryan Hall and seconded to add to the March 2015 Nadcap Meeting an agenda item to clarify the purpose of PT, determine if the current programs are accomplishing this purpose and, if not, consider modifications to existing programs and alternative approaches that may accomplish the intended purpose. The PTP TAG will meet prior to the next meeting to prepare. Motion Passed.

ACTION ITEM: Amanda Rickman to add to the March 2015 Nadcap Meeting an agenda item to clarify the purpose of PT, determine if the current programs are accomplishing this purpose and, if not, consider modifications to existing programs and alternative approaches that may accomplish the intended purpose. The PTP TAG will meet prior to the next meeting to prepare. (Due Date: 30-NOV-2014)

Motion made by Bryan Hall and seconded to prepare a revision to the MTL HB Appendix A to create language for the TAGs to collect revision suggestions and consider a checklist revision


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every other year. This will be brought to the TG at the March 2015 Nadcap Meeting in Berlin. Motion Passed.

ACTION ITEM: Bryan Hall to create language for the TAGs to collect revision suggestions and consider a checklist revision every other year for review at the March 2015 Nadcap Meeting. (Due Date: 13-FEB-2015)

The Rolling Action Item List (RAIL) was reviewed and updated from meeting actions.

For specific details, please see the current MTL Task Group Rolling Action Item List posted at www.eAuditNet.com, under Public Documents.

ADJOURNMENT – 22-Oct-2014 – Meeting was adjourned at 5:00 p.m.

Minutes Prepared by: Arielle Corne [email protected]

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Are procedural/form changes required based on changes/actions approved during this meeting? (select one)

YES* ☒ NO ☐

*If yes, the following information is required:Documents requiring revision: Who is responsible: Due date:NTGOP-001 APP. MTL Kevin Wetzel 30-NOV-2014s-frm-16 Kevin Wetzel 30-NOV-2014

Minutes revised March 2 2015 adding section 1.6 Approval of previous minutes.

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