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NFPA Technical Committee on Boatyards and Marinas (MAR-AAA) NFPA 303 Second Draft Meeting Agenda Web/Teleconference Friday, August 15, 2014 – 10:00 AM (EDT) to 11:00 AM (EDT) 1. Call to order by Chair Ken Bush at 10:00 AM (EDT). 2. Chairman’s Remarks. Ken Bush. 3. Self-introduction of Members and Guests. For a current committee roster, see page 2. Attachment: Committee Roster – Technical Committee on Boatyards and Marinas 4. Review and Approval of NFPA 303 First Draft Meeting Minutes (Date), see page 4. Attachment: NFPA 303 First Draft Meeting Minutes 5. Update on the Status of the NFPA Fire Protection Research Foundation’s project regarding stray electrical currents. 6. Staff Liaison discussion of Second Draft meeting procedures, See Power Point, see page 7. Attachment: NFPA 303 Second Draft Meeting Power Point 7. NFPA 303 Public Comments, see page 21. Attachments: Public Comments for NFPA 303 8. Second Draft Balloting Information - refer to Second Draft Power Point, page 32. 9. Other Business. 10. Adjournment. Page 1 of 40

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Page 1: NFPA Technical Committee on Boatyards and Marinas (MAR-AAA ... · Gregory T. Davis Principal Davis & Company, Ltd. 1989 University, Suite 1 Lisle, IL 60532 SE 7/24/1997 MAR-AAA PaulJ.Doyle

NFPA Technical Committee on Boatyards and Marinas (MAR-AAA)

NFPA 303 Second Draft Meeting Agenda Web/Teleconference

Friday, August 15, 2014 – 10:00 AM (EDT) to 11:00 AM (EDT)

 1. Call to order by Chair Ken Bush at 10:00 AM (EDT). 2. Chairman’s Remarks. Ken Bush. 3. Self-introduction of Members and Guests. For a current committee roster, see page 2. Attachment:

Committee Roster – Technical Committee on Boatyards and Marinas 4. Review and Approval of NFPA 303 First Draft Meeting Minutes (Date), see page 4. Attachment:

NFPA 303 First Draft Meeting Minutes 5. Update on the Status of the NFPA Fire Protection Research Foundation’s project regarding stray electrical currents. 6. Staff Liaison discussion of Second Draft meeting procedures, See Power Point, see page 7. Attachment:

NFPA 303 Second Draft Meeting Power Point 7. NFPA 303 Public Comments, see page 21. Attachments:

Public Comments for NFPA 303 8. Second Draft Balloting Information - refer to Second Draft Power Point, page 32. 9. Other Business. 10. Adjournment.

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Address List No PhoneMarinas and Boatyards MAR-AAA

Lawrence Russell07/30/2014

MAR-AAAKenneth E. BushChairMaryland State Fire Marshals Office301 Bay Street, Lower LevelEaston, MD 21601International Fire Marshals Association

E 1/1/1989MAR-AAA

Douglas J. BeachemPrincipalDJB, Ltd.810 Kimamy CourtJohns Creek, GA 30022

U 8/5/2009

MAR-AAAScott D. BowdenPrincipalPort Niantic Incorporated17 Smith AvenueNiantic, CT 06357

U 1/16/1998MAR-AAA

Lisa M. CockerillPrincipalRegion of Peel10 Peel Centre Drive, Suite B, 6th FloorBrampton, ON L6T 4B9 Canada

U 07/29/2013

MAR-AAAJames CotePrincipalCote Marine LLC8733 NW 19th DriveCoral Springs, FL 33071

SE 03/07/2013MAR-AAA

Bradford T. CroninPrincipalNewport Fire Department21 West Marlborough StreetNewport, RI 02840

E 03/05/2012

MAR-AAAGregory T. DavisPrincipalDavis & Company, Ltd.1989 University, Suite 1Lisle, IL 60532

SE 7/24/1997MAR-AAA

Paul J. DoylePrincipalPetroleum Marine Consultants, LLC13833 Wellington Trace, E4 #207Wellington, FL 33414

IM 07/29/2013

MAR-AAACharles FortPrincipalBoat U.S.880 South Pickett StreetAlexandria, VA 22304

C 03/03/2014MAR-AAA

Joseph R. FowlerPrincipalS.A. Comunale Company, Inc.2900 Newpark DriveBarberton, OH 44203

IM 07/29/2013

MAR-AAACasey O. HousleyPrincipalArmstrong Teasdale LLP2345 Grand Boulevard, Suite 2000Kansas City, MO 64108

SE 8/9/2011MAR-AAA

John R. KitchensPrincipalLos Angeles City Fire DepartmentPO Box 178Somis, CA 93066

E 03/07/2013

MAR-AAAStephen M. LiscinskyPrincipalHubbell Wiring Systems40 Waterview DriveShelton, CT 06484

M 8/2/2010MAR-AAA

Sarah MamanPrincipalFire, Life Safety, & Security Institute, Inc.950 NE 171st Street, Suite 208Miami, FL 33162

SE 10/18/2011

MAR-AAAJohn J. McDevittPrincipal440 Hampshire RoadDrexel Hill, PA 19026

C 4/15/2004MAR-AAA

Richard E. MorrisPrincipalTown of East LymeFire Marshals Office171 Boston Post RoadEast Lyme, CT 06333

E 1/1/1992

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Address List No PhoneMarinas and Boatyards MAR-AAA

Lawrence Russell07/30/2014

MAR-AAARobert J. PlumbPrincipalState of Alaska Department of Public SafetyDivision of Fire & Life Safety2760 Sherwood Lane, Suite 1AJuneau, AK 99801

E 3/1/2011MAR-AAA

Jack PoolePrincipalPoole Fire Protection, Inc.19910 West 161st StreetOlathe, KS 66062-2700

C 03/05/2012

MAR-AAAErnesto Rodriguez, Jr.PrincipalWiginton Fire Protection Engineering, Inc.699 Aero LaneSanford, FL 32771Alternate: George W. Stanley

SE 03/05/2012MAR-AAA

James J. RogersPrincipalTowns of Oak Bluffs, Tisbury, West TisburyPO Box 1379Vineyard Haven, MA 02568

E 10/1/1993

MAR-AAAAdam G. SheltonPrincipalHydroHoist International, HyPo Division1623 East Washington PlaceBroken Arrow, OK 74012-7127

M 11/2/2006MAR-AAA

Philip A. TeahPrincipalInternational Dock Products, Inc.353101 SW 25th Street, Bay 106Pembroke Park, FL 33009

M 1/16/1998

MAR-AAAReed B. VarleyPrincipalVarley-Campbell & Associates, Inc.2103 Coral Way, Suite 304Miami, FL 33145

SE 7/24/1997MAR-AAA

Joseph H. VersteegPrincipalVersteeg Associates86 University DriveTorrington, CT 06790

C 7/28/2006

MAR-AAATerry L. VictorPrincipalTyco/SimplexGrinnell705 Digital Drive, Suite NLinthicum, MD 21090-2267Alternate: Theresa Ricketts

M 07/29/2013MAR-AAA

Wayne WaggonerPrincipalNational Fire Sprinkler Association, Inc.PO Box 9Andersonville, TN 37705National Fire Sprinkler Association

M 03/05/2012

MAR-AAABill WilliamsPrincipalBayside Ventures Inc.PO Box 323Durant, OK 74702

U 10/18/2011MAR-AAA

Theresa RickettsAlternateTyco/SimplexGrinnell4650 Beloit DriveSacramento, CA 95838Principal: Terry L. Victor

M 07/29/2013

MAR-AAAGeorge W. StanleyAlternateWiginton Fire Protection Engineering, Inc.699 Aero LaneSanford, FL 32771Principal: Ernesto Rodriguez, Jr.

SE 03/05/2012MAR-AAA

Lawrence RussellStaff LiaisonNational Fire Protection Association1 Batterymarch ParkQuincy, MA 02169-7471

1/6/2005

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NFPA 303 MAR‐AAA First Draft November 12, 2013 Meeting Minutes / Page 1 

Technical Committee on Marinas and Boatyards (MAR-AAA)

NFPA 303 FIRST DRAFT MEETING MINUTES

NFPA Headquarters, Quincy MA with Web/Teleconference Option Tuesday, November 12, 2013

1. Call to Order & Chairman’s Opening Remarks. The meeting was called to order at 8:05 a.m. (EST) on Tuesday, November 12, 2013 at NFPA Headquarters in Quincy, MA by the Technical Committee Chairman, Kenneth Bush. The purpose of the teleconference meeting was to consider and act on public comments for the First Draft Report for NFPA 303, Fire Protection Standard for Marinas and Boatyards. Mr. Bush then welcomed the members of the Technical Committee and thanked them for participating in the meeting.

2. Introduction of Committee Members and Guests. Members who attended in person introduced themselves. The Staff Liaison read the names of the committee members to identify who was participating via teleconference.

TECHNICAL COMMITTEE MEMBERS WHO ATTENDED IN PERSON OR VIA WEB/TELECONFERENCE

NAME COMPANY

Kenneth Bush, Chairman Maryland State Fire Marshals Office Lawrence Russell, Staff Liaison NFPA Douglas Beachem, Principal DJB, Ltd. Lisa Cockerill, Principal City of Burlington Fire Department James Cote, Principal Cote Marine LLC Bradford Cronin, Principal Newport Fire Department Gregory Davis, Principal Davis & Company, Ltd. Joseph Fowler, Principal S.A. Comunale Company, Inc. Stephen Liscinsky, Principal Hubbell Wiring Systems Sarah Maman, Principal Fire, Life Safety, & Security Institute, Inc. John McDevitt, Principal Robert Plumb, Principal State of Alaska Department of Public Safety

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NFPA 303 MAR‐AAA First Draft November 12, 2013 Meeting Minutes / Page 2 

Jack Poole, Principal Poole Fire Protection, Inc. Ernesto Rodriguez, Jr., Principal Wiginton Fire Protection Engineering, Inc. Philip Teah, Principal International Dock Products, Inc. Terry Victor, Principal Tyco/SimpleGrinnell Wayne Waggoner, Principal National Fire Sprinkler Association Bill Williams, Principal Bayside Ventures Inc. Theresa Ricketts, Alternate to T. Victor

Tyco/SimpleGrinnell

GUESTS

NAME COMPANY

Sally Everett NFPA Staff Diane Matthews NFPA Staff Michael Wixted NFPA Staff

TECHNICAL COMMITTEE PRINCIPAL MEMBERS NOT PRESENT

NAME COMPANY

Scott Bowden Port Niantic Incorporated Paul Doyle Petroleum Marine Consultants, LLC Casey O. Housley Armstrong Teasdale LLP John Kitchens Los Angeles City Fire Department Richard Morris Town of East Lyme James Rogers Towns of Oak Bluffs, Tisbury, West Tisbury Adam Shelton HydroHoist International, HyPower Division Reed Varley Varley-Campbell & Associates, Inc. Joseph Versteeg Versteeg Associates

3. Staff Liaison Report. Mr. Russell made a brief Power Point presentation including a review of and updates on the New Process relating to First Draft Meetings. The meeting procedures and agenda were reviewed. 4. Approval of Prior Meeting Minutes. The minutes of the October 8, 2009 ROC Meeting were unanimously approved as issued. 5. Fire Protection Research Foundation Project. Casey Grant provided a Foundation update on the FPRF Project on Residual Current/Voltage in Marinas, Boatyards & Floating Buildings. 6. NFPA 303 First Draft Preparation. The Committee acted on twenty eight (28) Public Inputs. Twenty (20) First Revisions (FRs) were created. The committee also developed two (2) Committee Inputs. Details of these actions will be found in the First Draft Report for NFPA 303, Fire Protection Standard for Marinas and Boatyards.

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NFPA 303 MAR‐AAA First Draft November 12, 2013 Meeting Minutes / Page 3 

7. Other Business. There were additional items discussed at this teleconference.

The NFPA Technical Committee on Spray Finishing Processes is seeking to reconvene a task group to look at the issue of using indoor membrane enclosures for spraying large workpieces, such as boats, that do not fit easily into standard spray booths. Sarah Maman volunteered to participate as did Ken Bush. If anyone else is interested, please contact Mr. Russell.

G. Davis asked that NFPA 307 be looked at to see how they addressed correlation issues on Standpipes. Mr. Russell noted that NFPA 307 is also currently in cycle and has yet to be balloted. However, he expects only minor changes to Annex B.

Mr. Russell requested that all Technical Committee members review their contact information and e-mail any updated information and/or changes to Diane Matthews at [email protected]

The staff liaison explained the balloting procedures that occur following the First Draft meeting. Potential Second Draft Meeting dates were discussed, including the summer of 2014. Depending

on the number of Public Comments received, the Second Draft meeting may be a web/teleconference only with the exact date to be determined at a later time.

Mr. Russell will be sending out an unofficial summary of today’s actions for committee review prior to ballot issuance. It is expected the ballot will be issued prior to January 31, 2014. 8. Adjournment. The meeting adjourned at 2:44 PM (EST) on Tuesday, November 12, 2013.   

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NFPA 303 Second Draft Meeting

Timeline• Comment Stage (Second Draft):

Public Comment Closing Date was: 04/11/14 (P); 5/16/14 (E)(P) Paper (E) Electronic

Second Draft Meeting TODAY Posting of Second Draft for Balloting Date: 12/12/14 Posting of Second Draft for NITMAM: 01/16/15

• Tech Session Preparation: NITMAM Closing Date: 03/06/15 CAM Posting/Consent Doc Notification Date: 05/01/15

• Standards Council Issuance: Issue of Consent Documents: 05/26/15 (edition date 2016) NFPA Annual Meeting: 06/22-25/15 Appeal Closing Date: 07/15/15 Issue of Documents with CAM: 08/20/15 (edition date 2016)

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NFPA 303 Second Draft MeetingNew Process – What’s New?

Changes in Terms:

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New Term Old Term

Comment Stage ROC Stage

Public Comment Public Comment

Second Draft Meeting ROC Meeting

Committee CommentComment that Failed Ballot

(Second Revision that failed ballot)

Second RevisionCommittee Comment or Accepted

Public Comment

Second Draft Report ROC

Second Draft ROC Draft

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NFPA 303 Second Draft Meeting

• Technical Committee Actions:

Resolving Public Comments Committee Action and Committee Statement

Creating Second Revisions

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Action Options for the Committee at the Second Draft Conference

• The following is taken from the Regulations Governing Committee Projects (§4.4.8.1).

• Action Options are:

– Accept the Comment

– Reject the Comment but See Related 2nd Revision

– Reject the Comment

– Reject but Hold the Comment

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Accept the Comment

• Action: The Technical Committee takes this Action when it decides to accept the text proposed in the Public Comment exactly as submitted. 

• Result: The Public Comment is marked as “Accept,” and the proposed text is incorporated into one or more Second Revisions. 

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Reject the Comment, but See Related Second Revision. 

• Action: The Technical Committee takes this Action when it agrees with the concept of the Public Comment in whole or in part but has developed related text in one or more Second Revisions that is different from the text in the Public Comment. 

• Result: The Public Comment is marked as “Reject But See” and, a reference is provided to the related Second Revision(s). 

Original comment is revised with additionsand/or deletions.

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Reject the Comment. 

• Action: The Technical Committee takes this Action when it disagrees with the proposed changes in the Public Comment. 

• Result: The Public Comment is marked as “Reject,” and no Second Revision is developed. 

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Reject But Hold the Comment. 

• Action: The Technical Committee takes this Action when it decides to reject the Public Comment, but hold it for processing as a Public Input for the next Revision Cycle in accordance with §4.4.8.3. 

• Result: The Comment is marked as “Reject But Hold,” and no Second Revision is developed. 

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Criteria for Hold (§4.4.8.3.1) 

• The Comment introduces a concept that has not had public review by being included in a related Input or First Revision as shown in the First Draft. 

• The Comment changes the text from the First Draft to the point that the Technical Committee would have to restudy the text of the First Draft. 

• The Comment proposes something that could not be properly handled within the timeframe for processing the Second Draft. 

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Basis for Reject But Hold (§4.4.8.3.2) 

• The Committee may consider any relevant factors including but not limited to:

– the extent to which the Public Comment proposes a change that is new or substantial, 

– the complexity of the issues raised, and 

– whether sufficient debate and public review has taken place.

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Committee Statements on Comments (§4.4.8.2) 

• A Statement is required for all Actions on Comments. 

• Statements supporting Committee Actions shall be technical in nature and shall be sufficiently detailed so as to convey the Committee’s rationale for its Action. 

• Statements may consist, in whole or in part, of a cross‐reference to Statements on other Comments and Second Revisions. 

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NFPA 303 Second Draft Meeting

• Create a Second Revision (SR)Committee wants to make a change (to add,

delete or modify) the First Draft.

Committee develops a Committee Statement (CS) substantiating the change.

Each SR gets balloted

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NFPA 303 Second Draft Meeting

• No “new material” after the Public Input Stage since it hasn’t had the benefit of public review.

• What constitutes new material is decided by the TC or Correlating Committee.

• Adding “new material” at this Comments stage could successfully be challenged through appeal to the NFPA Standards Council

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Public Comment No. 1-NFPA 303-2014 [ New Section after 4.8 ]

Additon of No Swimming Policy. This is in response to submission input by David Rifkin which recommended adding signage prohibiting swimming in marinas. The committee then asked for comments regarding add a No Swimming policy, which would have to be in place before a signage requirement was passed. This change recommendation is to add a No Swimming policy as the precursor to a signage requirement.I defer to the committee's judgement for the most appropriate place in the standard to add this section, along with the new requirements for signage.I can be contacted at [email protected] or 904-382-7868, and would be happy to discuss with any interested party. And thank you for the opportunity to enhance safety in the marina environment. See discussion below for justificationfor this addition.David Rifkin, Capt. USN, Ret.Insert new paragraph 4.9.4.9. Swimming Prohibition.4.9.1. Swimming within the confines of the marina shall be prohibited. The confines for this purpose will be within 50 yards of any marina structure using AC power, or within 50 yards of any equipment/cabling that could leak electricity into the water.4.9.2. Management shall establish procedures to ensure that anyone using, visiting, or working in the marina confines understands that swimming is prohibited.4.9.3. Management shall ensure that all employees are trained in the swimming prohibition, and that appropriate action is taken in the event that swimming is observed within the confines of the marina.4.9.4. Signs4.9.4.1. Signs shall be posted in conspicuous locations warning all personnel that swimming is prohibited. They will be positioned such that they will be seen from all approaches to any electrified structure.4.9.4.2. Signage lettering shall be large enough that the “No Swimming” portion of the verbiage, or the international “no swimming” diagram (if used instead of lettering) can be read with normal vision from at least 50 yards away.4.9.4.3. Signs shall state, as a minimum:

(1) “No Swimming Within 50 yds”(2) “Electric Shock Danger in the Water”

Insert new paragraph A.4.9.A.4.9. Swimming ProhibitionA.4.9.1. Consideration may be given to establishing safe swimming areas in a marina provided that the 50 yard criterion of 4.9.1 is met. Procedures, policies and physical barriers should be established to ensure the safety of recreationalswimmers by preventing them from swimming outside the safe area.A.4.9.2. Consideration should be given to establishing policies and procedures for owners or professional divers to safely conduct underwater maintenance on boats within the confines of a marina. These may include:

(1) Establishing a scheduled electrical outage period to create a window for safe diving operations.

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(2) Requiring that the boat or structure being worked on be deenergized(unplugged in the case of portable shore power cables) along with vessels orstructures adjacent to or across the dock from the vessel or structure beingmaintained.

(3) Ensuring that boat owners and divers understand that even if the vessel or structure is denergized, that there is still inherent risk of electrical shock from other sources within 50 yards of the work area.David [email protected]

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

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Problem is that people are being killed and injured due to electrical faults in marinas. Current requirements to improve marina electrical safety (ground fault protection added in NFPA 70, 2011, 555.3) will be very expensive to implement at the marina level. Also, they will not be retroactive so, on a practical basis, most marinas will never be upgraded to the new standard.

A simpler, cost effective solution can make an impact right away, and could be required of existing marinas by the AHJ at relatively low cost. Also, protection devices fail. The best way to ensure protection is to not engage in the activity that requires the protection device (especially when the risk involves injury and death). Staying out of the water in a marina is a perfect example of this. Prohibiting swimming, and requiring warning signage will dramatically improve safety in the marina environment. It should also appeal to marina operators as an inexpensive way to reduce their liability in this area (and help them comply with protecting people discussed in NFPA 303, A.5.1. (5)).

Discussion:

Electric shock drowning (ESD) is a known hazard associated with marinas and boatyards in freshwater locations. Recently Chapter 555 of NFPA 70 was revised to require ground fault protection for marinas and boatyards (555.3). This will greatly improve safety at these locations.

However, the cost of ground fault protection upgrades will be significant, and likely will not be deemed retroactive by the local Authority Having Jurisdiction (AHJ). The result will be that not many facilities (if any at all) will be upgraded with this important protection system. The existing dangers will remain for a very long time, even though the Code has been revised.

There is something that marina/boartyard operators can do to minimize the chance of an ESD-type accident at their facility. They can establish No-Swimming policies and post signage to prohibit swimming and warn of the danger. This represents a relatively low cost option compared to installing ground fault protection, and will likely appeal to the operators from a liability perspective.

Keeping recreational swimmers out of the water within the marina confines is a sure fire way to prevent accidents. Not only are there electrical considerations, but also dangers from moving equipment (like boats and spinning propellers).

The 50 yards in the change is based on the line to ground voltage at all but the largest of marinas (240v and below). The maximum line to ground voltage is 120v. If this voltage exists over a water span of 50yds (150ft) or more, then the maximum voltage gradient in the water would be 120v/150ft or 0.8v/ft. The recognized lethal gradient for humans is 2v/ft. Therefore, at 50yds the max gradient would be less than half of the recognized dangerous level for a nominal person.

Electrical codes and standards are there to minimize the likelihood of serious injury or death resulting from someone accidentally entering the water. They are not designed nor intended to provide a safe haven from electricity in the water. Consider a basic hair dryer. This device has a mandated integral GFCI within the device itself. They are usually used in bathrooms where receptacles are equipped with their own GFCIs. Even with double GFCI protection, would a rational person consider it safe to sit in the bath tub while drying one’s hair? The standards require the GFCI protection in case someone foolishly decides to do this, but not to facilitate this behavior.

Procedures and policies to prevent swimming in marinas and boatyards will save lives. This is, for the most part, a cultural change. We have always gone swimming at the local lake, river, or pond. Then came the docks, and the swimming continued safely. Then came electrification of docks (for boats, lighting, entertainment, etc.). At that point swimming became a significant hazard and a risk for ESD. We have documented hundreds of injuries and deaths from swimming around boats and docks using electrical

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power.

There are things a marina can do to allow safe swimming at their facilities. One thing would be set up designated swimming areas. These areas would be at least 50 yds from any potential source of electricity. They can also place some controls on diving activites within the confines of their facilities.

This same No Swimming policy and signage requirement can be applied to all marinas; fresh, salt, and brackish. The physical dangers remain the same, and the potential for electric shock and injury can still be very dangerous even in a saltwater marina (consider someone in the saltwater reaching up and grabbing something on a boat or dock that is energized to line potential).

Thank you for your consideration of this important change.

David RifkinCapt. USN, Ret.

Please feel to contact me to discuss this change. 904-382-7868, [email protected].

Related ItemCommittee Input No. 13-NFPA 303-2013 [New Section after 4.6.2]

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: DAVID RIFKIN

Organization: Quality Marine Services, LLC

Affilliation: Board Member, Electric Shock Drowning Prevention Association. President/Owner Quality Marine Services, LLC

Street Address:City: State: Zip:Submittal Date: Tue Feb 18 22:05:58 EST 2014

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Public Comment No. 2-NFPA 303-2014 [ Section No. 6.1.1.1.1 ]

6.1.1.1.1Placement of portable fire extinguishers on piers and along bulkheads where vessels are moored or are permitted to be moored shall meet the following criteria:

(1) Extinguishers listed for Class A, Class B, and Class C fires shall be installed at the pier/land intersection on a pier that exceeds 25 ft (7.62 m) in length.

(2) Additional fire extinguishers shall be placed such that the maximum travel distance to an extinguisher does not exceed 75 ft (22.86 m).

(3) To be protected where exposed to environmental exposures to prevent damage and lack of operability.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

In 6.1 suggest to add sentence to protect from environmental conditions to reduce incidence of damage to fire extinguishers located outdoors. High humidity areas, rain, freezing temperatures and high winds could cause corrosion and other damage to fire extinguishers that are not protected. According to the type of conditions fire extinguishers are located they should be protected by use of weather covers, cabinets, etc. in order to prevent climate conditions to negatively affect the expected performance of the fire extinguisher.

Related ItemPublic Input No. 13-NFPA 303-2013 [Section No. 6.1]

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: LISA COCKERILLOrganization: REGION OF PEELStreet Address: City:State: Zip: Submittal Date: Thu Mar 06 12:15:45 EST 2014

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Public Comment No. 3-NFPA 303-2014 [ Section No. 6.3.5 ]

6.3.5Supply piping for standpipes on piers and bulkheads shall be sized for the minimum flow rate for Class II systems with a minimum flow rate of 300 gpm (1136 L/min) .

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

There are four reasons for the proposal; (1) most fire service fog nozzles have a minimum gpm delivery of 150 gpm, (2) two hose streams are generally employed to extinguish a recreational vessel fire and/or protect adjacent vessels, (3) vessel and flammable liquid fires are best extinguished through the application of foam, (4) exposure protection with water streams limits potential damage from contact foam solution.

Related ItemPublic Input No. 8-NFPA 303-2012 [Section No. 6.4.5]

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: Kelly NicolelloOrganization: Western Regional Fire Code DevStreet Address: City: State:Zip: Submittal Date: Tue Apr 01 18:16:49 EDT 2014

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Public Comment No. 4-NFPA 303-2014 [ New Section after 6.3.7 ]

ADD New SectionsSee attached Word Document

Additional Proposed Changes

File Name Description ApprovedNFPA_303.docx New sections

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

NFPA 303 needs to provide guidance for materials used for standpipes on docks. This submittal will allow the used of materials that are acceptable for underground installations. These materials are more corrosion resistant.

Related ItemPublic Input No. 15-NFPA 303-2013 [New Section after 6.4]

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: Peter SchwabOrganization: Wayne Automatic Fire SprinklerStreet Address:City: State: Zip:Submittal Date: Wed May 14 10:07:31 EDT 2014

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6.3.8 Piping 

6.3.8.1 Piping Materials. Piping shall be listed for fire protection or shall comply with the standards in 

Table 6.3.8.1 

Table 6.3.8.1 

Ferrous Piping (Welded and Seamless) Specification for Black and Hot-Dipped Zinc-Coated (Galvanized) Welded and Seamless Steel Pipe for Fire Protection Use Specification for Pipe, Steel, Black and Hot-Dipped, Zinc-Coated, Welded and Seamless Wrought Steel Pipe Specification for Electric-Resistance-Welded Steel Pipe

 

ASTM A 795

 ANSI/ASTM A 53

   ANSI/ASME B36.10M ASTM A 135 

Copper Tube (Drawn, Seamless) Specification for Seamless Copper Tube Specification for Seamless Copper Water Tube Specification for General Requirements for Wrought Seamless Copper and Copper-Alloy Tube Specification for Liquid and Paste Fluxes for Soldering Applications of Copper and Copper-Alloy Tube Brazing Filler Metal (Classification BCuP-3 or BCuP-4) Solder Metal, Section 1: Solder Alloys Containing Less Than 0.2% Lead and Having Solidus Temperatures Greater than 400°F Alloy Materials  

ASTM B 75

  ASTM B 88 ASTM B 251

   ASTM B 813   AWS A5.8

  ASTM B 32

   ASTM B 446

PLASTIC Nonmetallic Piping Specification for Special Listed Chlorinated Polyvinyl chloride (CPVC) Pipe Polyvinyl Chloride (PVC) Pressure Pipe, 4 in. Through 12 in., for Water Distribution Polyvinyl Chloride (PVC) Pressure Pipe, 14 in. Through 48 in., for Water Distribution Polyethylene (PE) Pressure Pipe and Fittings, 4 in. (100 mm) Through 63 in. (1575 mm) for Water Distribution

ASTM F 442 AWWA C900 AWWA C905

  AWWA C906 

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Brass Pipe Specification for Seamless Red Brass Pipe

 ASTM B 43 

Ductile Iron Cement Mortar Lining for Ductile Iron Pipe and Fittings for Water Polyethylene Encasement for Ductile Iron Pipe Systems Rubber-Gasket Joints for Ductile Iron Pressure Pipe and Fittings Flanged Ductile Iron Pipe with Ductile Iron or Gray Iron Threaded Flanges Thickness Design of Ductile Iron Pipe Ductile Iron Pipe, Centrifugally Cast for Water Standard for the Installation of Ductile Iron Water Mains and Their Appurtenances

 

 AWWA C104

 AWWA C105

  AWWA C111

  AWWA C115

 AWWA C150  AWWA C151 AWWA C600 

 

6.3.8.2 Piping shall be rated for the maximum system working pressure to which they are exposed but 

shall not be rated at less than 150 psi (10 bar). 

6.3.8.3 Non‐metallic piping shall be evaluated for exposure to direct ultra violet rays of sunlight. 

6.3.8.3.1 Where required to be protected from ultra violet rays of sunlight, the method shall be 

approved. 

6.3.9 Fittings 

6.3.9.1 Fittings shall be listed for fire protection or shall be in accordance with Table 6.3.9.1. 

Table 6.3.9.1 

Cast Iron Gray Iron Threaded Fittings, Classes 125 and 250 Gray Iron Pipe Flanges and Flanged Fittings, Classes 12, 125, and 250

ASME B16.4

  ASME B16.1 

Malleable Iron Malleable Iron Threaded Fittings, Class 150 and 300

ASME B16.3 

Steel Factory-Made Wrought Steel Buttweld Fittings Buttwelding Ends

 ASME B16.9 ASME B16.25   

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Specification for Piping Fittings of Wrought Carbon Steel and Alloy Steel for Moderate and Elevated Temperatures Pipe Flanges and Flanged Fittings, NPS 1⁄2 Through 24 Forged Steel Fittings, Socket Welded and Threaded

ASTM A 234

  ASME B16.5   ASME B16.11 

Copper Wrought Copper and Bronze Solder Joint Pressure Fittings Cast Bronze Solder Joint Pressure Fittings

 ASME B16.22

 ASME B16.18  

CPVC Chlorinated Polyvinyl Chloride (CPVC) Specification for Schedule 80 CPVC Threaded Fittings Specification for Schedule 40 CPVC Socket-Type Fittings Specification for Schedule 80 CPVC Socket-Type Fittings 

 ASTM F 437 ASTM F 438

 ASTM F 439  

Bronze Fittings Cast Bronze Threaded Fittings  

 ASTM B16.15

Ductile Iron Cement Mortar Lining for Ductile Iron Pipe and Fittings for Water Ductile Iron and Gray Iron Fittings, 3 in. Through 48 in., for Water and Other Liquids Rubber-Gasket Joints for Ductile Iron Pressure Pipe and Fittings Flanged Ductile Iron Pipe with Ductile Iron or Gray Iron Threaded Flanges Protective Fusion-Bonded Epoxy Coatings for the Interior and Exterior Surfaces of Ductile-Iron and Gray-Iron Fittings for Water Supply Service Ductile-Iron Compact Fittings for Water Service

 AWWA C104

 AWWA C110

  AWWA C111 AWWA C115

  AWWA C116

   AWWA C153 

 

6.3.9.2 Fittings shall be rated for the maximum system working pressure to which they are exposed but 

shall not be rated at less than 150 psi (10 bar). 

6.3.10 Joining of Pipe and Fittings 

6.3.10.1 Joints shall be approved. 

6.3.10.2 All threaded steel pipe and fittings shall have threads cut in accordance with B1.20.1. 

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6.3.10.3 Pipes joined with grooved fittings shall be joined by a listed combination of fittings, gaskets, 

and grooves. 

6.3.10.4 Joints for the connection of copper tube shall be brazed or joined using pressure fittings as 

specified in Table 6.3.9.1. 

6.3.10.5 Except as permitted by 6.3.10.5.1, all joints shall be mechanically restrained. 

6.3.10.5.1 The following joining methods shall not be required to be mechanically restrained at every 

joint: 

(1) Locking mechanical push on joints (2) Mechanical joints utilizing setscrew retainer glands (2) Bolted flange joints (3) Heat fused joints (4) Welded joints (5) CPVC welded joints (6) Threaded joints (7) Grooved joints  6.3.11 Hanging of Pipe and Fittings  6.3.11.1 All piping shall be supported in accordance with NFPA 13.     

 

 

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NFPA Second Draft Meeting

• Formal voting Voting during meeting is used to establish a sense of

agreement (simple majority)Secured by letter ballot (2/3 agreement)Only the results of the formal ballot determine the

official position of the committee on the Second Draft

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NFPA Second Draft Meeting

• Ballots are on the Second Revisions (SR) ONLYPublic Comments and Committee Statements not

ballotedReference materials are available -

Second Draft, Public Comments, First Draft Report

• Ballot form allows you to vote: Affirmative on all SRAffirmative on all SR with exceptions specifically noted

• Ballot form provides a column for affirmative with commentNote: This box only needs to be checked if there is an

accompanying comment.

• Reject or abstain requires a reason.

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NFPA Second Draft Meeting

• Initial ballot• Circulation of negatives and comments• Members may change votes during

circulation• Second Revision that fails letter ballot

shall be designated as a Committee Comment (in the 2nd Draft Report), marked as “Reject” and deleted from the Second Draft.

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Electronic Balloting • Ballots will be an online format• Alternates are strongly encouraged to return ballots

•Ballot session will time out after 90 minutes

•Use “submit” to save your work

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Electronic Balloting • Click link on the ballot email received

• Sign in with NFPA.org Committee Login and Password

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Electronic Balloting • Select either Affirmative on All or Affirmative with Exception(s)

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Electronic Balloting • Use “See FR/SR ‐ #” link to review all First/Second Revisions 

• Use “Edit election” to change individual votes or to modify vote after submitting ballot.  

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Choosing AFFIRMATIVE ON ALL

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Electronic Balloting 

• Make selection:  Affirmative with Comment, Negative, or Abstain

• No selection made‐defaults to affirmative

• Must include comment on each vote.

Choosing AFFIRMATIVE WITH EXCEPTION(S)

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Electronic Balloting • To complete ballot click Participant Consent and Submit

• Return and edit any votes before ballot due date.  

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