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    National Defense Authorization Act-2012 S.1867August 11th 2012

    Attention all: This is what your federal government is now doing to you, it's all happenedbefore in Germany in the 1920's and 30's. Our so called President will sign this into law whenit hits his desk. Let us hear your comments and suggestions. God bless us all.

    Subject: Smile, you are a Civilian Internee!

    Saturday, December 10, 2011 Smile, you are a Civilian Internee!http://www.activistpost.com/2011/12/smile-you-are-civilian-internee.html

    As every day passes, it becomes clearer that our once-free nation is quickly turning down thepath of a totalitarian police state, as embodied by the passage of S.1867 in the Senate andH.R.1540 in the House.

    With the knowledge that KBR is developing a so-called National Quick Response Team toman the detention centers popularly referred to as FEMA Camps on 72 hours notice, thepicture only gets more grim.

    This trend is also reflected in the recent United States Army job posting forInternment/Resettlement Specialists.

    While this might sound tame and harmless to some, upon reading the job description atroubling picture emerges.

    The Internment/Resettlement Specialist, or I/R Specialist for short, is not only tasked withhandling the custody and control of individuals designated as an Enemy Prisoner of War(EPW) but also of so-called Civilian Internees (CIs).

    This is a classic example of Orwellian language. Youre not an American citizen being

    indefinitely imprisoned by the military in a military prison; instead youre a Civilian Internee ina Civilian Internee Camp.

    In this article you will learn exactly what a Civilian Internee is, what few rights are afforded tothem and just how oppressed a Civilian Internee actually is, according to the militarys owndocuments on the subject.

    We will delve into great detail, showing the exact language and ways that Civilian Interneesare controlled and prevented from making any real contact with the outside world or beingable to seek out justice.

    I dont think that anyone is blind enough to find the title of Civilian Internee reassuring,especially considering the fact that Civilian Internee is the exact designation assigned to theJapanese-Americans who were locked up during World War II.

    These innocent Americans were put in so-called internment camps which bore a strikingresemblance to the concentration camps of Nazi-era Germany, for committing no crime otherthan being of a certain ancestral origin.

    If our government would lock up hardworking, patriotic Americans simply for being ofJapanese descent, it is not a leap to think that they would do the same to political opposition.

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    Civilian Internee is actually a specific status of prisoner under the Geneva Conventions whichis supposed to designate civilians who are detained during wartime, supposedly for securityreasons.

    However, as we all know, the Japanese people being locked up were no security threat at all;in fact, despite the grand betrayal embodied by the internment of innocent American citizens;many Americans of Japanese descent actually went and fought for the United States in WorldWar II.

    The 442nd Regimental Combat Team of the United States Army was a prime example of this,as it was a unit composed entirely of Japanese-American soldiers.

    They fought in Italy, Southern France and Germany, and were in fact the most highly-decorated regiment in the entire history of the armed forces of the United States with 21recipients of the Medal of Honor.

    The fact that such individuals would put their lives on the line and fight for a nation that wasdetaining their friends and family is almost unbelievable, but they did it, and yet ourgovernment is likely going to repeat the same horrific mistakes they made in the past.

    I just wonder if this time around people will actually continue to go off and fight for a countrythat is engaging in the exact practices we are supposed to be opposing and fighting againstaround the world.

    Specifically, the job description lists under "advanced responsibilities" that the I/R Specialistmay be involved to, Provide command and control, staff planning, administration/logisticalservices, and custody/control for the operation of an Enemy Prisoner of War/Civilian Internee(EPW/CI) camp.

    There are some publicly available military documents that go into more detail about whatexactly a Civilian Internee is and how they are treated.

    Despite the somewhat innocent sounding designation, Civilian Internees have little to norights and are essentially totally powerless while in military detention.

    There are lots of purely ceremonial rights granted to Civilian Internees like the ability to votefor representatives to speak for the camp, but the military can refuse to allow anyone who isvoted in to actually hold the position.

    Therefore, the representatives of the Civilian Internees would likely be nothing more thansycophantic lapdogs who bow before the officers in charge of the camp.

    Anyone who would actually represent the Civilian Internees would just be blocked by the

    military, as it is explicitly written that they can do exactly that.

    In the Army Regulation 190-8 document also called Enemy Prisoners of War, RetainedPersonnel, Civilian Internees and Other Detainees, which is available on the Air Forceswebsite, some details are given on what exactly Civilian Internees are and how they aretreated.

    Chapter 6 of the document, entitled Administration and Operation of CI Internment Facilities,beginning on page 23 of the PDF (page 19 of the document), delves into some of these issues.

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    http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/law/ar190-8.pdf

    Beginning with section 6-3, we learn that Civilian Internees have no real right to propertyunder this military rule.

    While they pretend to give the detainees property rights, it is clear that they can strip you ofyour belongings at any time for any reason.

    Sub-section b. states, The personal effects that detainees are allowed to retain, but are takenfrom them temporarily for intelligence purposes, will be receipted for and returned as soon aspractical.

    Essentially, they can claim your belongings are needed for intelligence purposes and holdthem until it is deemed practical to return them.

    When that would be is anyones guess, but the language is clearly ambiguous enough to allowthe military to strip Civilian Internees of any and all personal belongings for however long theyplease.

    Section 6-4 goes over the so-called Internee Committee which is a two or three personcommittee which is empowered to represent the camp to the protecting powers, InternationalCommittee of the Red Cross, or other authorized relief or aid organizations and U.S. militaryauthorities.

    Once again, the military is able to determine what exactly you can do and this language clearlyallows the military to deny access to any outside relief or aid organizations by saying that theyare not authorized.

    Under sub-section c. Each member of the Internee Committee will be approved by the campcommander prior to assumption of duty. If the camp commander refuses to approve ordismisses an elected member, a notice to that effect with reasons for refusal or dismissal willbe forwarded through channels to the Branch PWIC [Prisoner of War Information Center] fortransmittal to the protecting power with a copy furnished to the NPWIC [National Prisoner ofWar Information Center].

    This committee is clearly a farce which is directly controlled by the military, as if those whoare rounding up and detaining American citizens can be trusted with treating those prisonersfairly, which is a laughable assertion.

    One of the duties of the Internee Committee is to present and transmit petitions andcomplaints to the appropriate authorities, but given that the committee can be hand selectedby those who are operating the prison, there is no way that any real petitions or complaints

    would ever be filed by the puppet committee.

    Yet, it gets even worse: the Internment Committee handles, The distribution and dispositionof collective relief shipments.

    Meaning that the militarys lapdogs will be the ones with the power to distribute food andother supplies to whomever they wish.

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    They even handle, The delivery of perishable goods to the infirmary when addressed to a CIundergoing disciplinary punishment.

    The Committee is also given access to postal and telegraphic facilities in order tocommunicate with the so-called protecting powers, also known as the people unjustlydetaining civilians en masse without charge or trial, along with the authorized aidorganizations.

    Civilian Internees have to provide their own clothing and footwear and, Except for workclothing or as circumstances warrant, or climatic conditions required, no replacementclothing will be issued.

    The clothing of Civilian Internees is marked with CI on the front and back of each sleeve in4-inch tall black or white letters between the elbow and shoulder and on the front of pants andshorts above the knee and on the back below the belt.

    The food situation is similarly unpleasant considering that Subsistence for the CI will beissued on the basis of a master CI menu prepared by the theater commander.

    The daily individual food ration will be sufficient in quantity, quality and variety to maintainthe CI in good health and to prevent nutritional deficiencies, although they make it clear thatif you perform physical labor you receive more food depending on the kind of laborperformed.

    Therefore, if whatever food they decide is sufficient in quantity, quality and variety is notenough (which it likely wont be) youll be forced to work hard manual labor to get additionalfood.

    Although, you can use facilities to prepare additional food received or procured by [the CI]from authorized sources.

    What these authorized sources are is unclear but it is likely the case, like in private prisons,that they will make foods available to prisoners at exorbitant prices which is all too appealinggiven the horrendous quality of the food provided.

    Part of section 6-6, Medical Care and Sanitation clearly indicates that those who areunvaccinated will be forced to be vaccinated whether they like it or not.

    Each CI will be immunized or reimmunized as prescribed by theater policy, meaning that ifthe commander of the theater (in this case, likely the United States of America itself) decidesthat certain vaccinations are mandatory, you are not allowed to be released into the generalpopulation until you receive them or as they put it until medical fitness is determined.

    It gets even more fascinating when they get to section 6-7, Social, Intellectual, and Religiousactivities, which says, Subject to security considerations and camp discipline, the CI will beencouraged, but not required, to participate in social, intellectual, religious, and recreationalactivities. Well, that doesnt sound too bad, right?

    The next sentence might change your mind, Introducing political overtones into or furtheringenemy propaganda objectives through these activities will not be tolerated.

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    In other words, if you engage in discussing politics or the truth of the situation (which is likelyto be designated as an act of furthering enemy propaganda objectives) you will not be allowedto participate in any social, intellectual, religious or recreational activities.

    Furthermore, the entire ability to participate in any activities is dependent on securityconsiderations and camp discipline, meaning that at any time they can suspend all activitiesfor any reason or no reason at all.

    They also delve into official visits by so-called Duly accredited representatives of theprotecting powers and of the International Committee of the Red Cross and others who will bepermitted to visit and inspect CI camps and other places of internment in the discharge oftheir official duties.

    However, The inspections will be at times previously authorized by the theater commander.

    Yet again, they set up the false pretense of rights and justice just to undermine it by making itonly at times authorized by the theater commander, meaning that they could easily cover upany wrongdoing long before the inspection takes place.

    Even worse, they can prohibit the inspections altogether. Such visits will not be prohibited,nor will their duration and frequency be restricted, except for reasons of imperative militarynecessity, and then only as a temporary measure.

    Who decides when it is an imperative military necessity and how long this temporary measurelasts? Well, of course, it is the military.

    Getting regulators to regulate themselves works out so well in the case of the private FederalReserve I can see why they would want to utilize such a tactic in a situation like this as well.

    Visits with family are similarly restricted by whatever the theater commander decides to put inplace.

    Near relatives and other persons authorized by the theater commander will be permitted tovisit the CI as frequently as possible in accordance with theater regulations. They should beadvised that the taking of photographs on or about the facility is prohibited.

    They even have outlined a program to develop vocational training projects with an immediateview of developing skills that may be useful during interment.

    While they claim that Civilian Internee clergy will be allowed to communicate with religiousleaders on religious matters, they do say that it will be subject to censorship.

    The restrictions on communications are outlined in section 6-8 and include no drawings,

    maps, or sketches in any outgoing correspondence, no registered certified, insured, COD, orairmail items will be allowed to be received by Civilian Internees, and Censorship of the CImail will be according to the policies established by the theater commander.

    This is where it gets really disturbing: Outgoing letters and cards may be examined and readby the camp commander. The camp commander will return outgoing correspondencecontaining obvious deviations from regulations for rewriting.

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    Camp commanders will name U.S. military personnel to supervise the opening of all mailpouches containing incoming letters and cards for CI. These items will be carefully examinedby the named personnel before delivery to detainees. Those items that arrive without havingbeen censored by appropriate censorship elements will be returned for censorship to thedesignated censorship elements.

    Is it just me or does this read like something out of a work of fiction? Essentially you wont beable to read or write anything that the military overlords do not wish you to. If you attempt toreport torture or other horrors to anyone on the outside they will either censor it or force youto rewrite it.

    All packages received by CIs are searched and, if requested, examined by the so-calledcensorship element. They point out that they will closely examine all items and messagesbut also claim undue destruction of contents of parcels will be avoided.

    Not quite reassuring, if you ask me.

    To make matters even worse, if such a thing was possible, the CI is not allowed to make orreceive any phone calls whatsoever.

    Telegrams can be sent under certain specific conditions but they, too, are censored.

    Civilian Internees may receive books but, Books that arrive at camps uncensored will becensored by a representative of the censorship element.

    English-language newspapers and magazines published in the United States are allowed to bedistributed to the camp library by approved relief or aid organizations at the campcommanders discretion after they have been censored.

    The manner in which Civilian Internees can attempt to file complaints is just as ludicrouslyunjust as the rest of the regulations we have gone over thus far.

    Essentially they only way you can file complaints is through the Headquarters, Department ofthe Army (HQDA), Office of the Deputy Chief of Staff for Operations and Plans (ODCSOPS),National Prisoner of War Information Center (NWPIC), or in the case of any act or allegationof inhumane treatment or other violations of this regulation will be reported to HQDA (DOMA-ODL), WASH DC 20310-0400 as a Serious Incident Report.

    Just like the other regulations weve gone over, there is a false impression of justice whichcrumbles under a moments scrutiny.

    Discipline and security under section 6-10 is clearly taken seriously in the case of CivilianInternees.

    The regulations state, Measures needed to maintain discipline and security will be set up ineach camp and rigidly enforced. Offensive acts against discipline will be dealt with promptly.The camp commander will record disciplinary punishments. The record will be open toinspection by the protecting power.

    Oddly enough, under this section it is written that no CI may have any political emblem,insignia, flag, or picture of a political leader unless it is a picture of a political leader thatappeared in a magazine, book, or newspaper and wasnt removed by the censorship element.

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    They also explicitly state that you are to be nice to your captors, The normal civiliancourtesies will be required of the CI in their relationships with military personnel.

    Under section 6-12 some of the Disciplinary proceedings and punishments are outlinedincluding a list of some approved punishments.

    These disciplinary measures include, (1) Discontinuance of privileges granted over andabove the treatment provided for by this regulation. (2) Confinement. (3) A fine not to exceedone-half of the wages that the CI may receive during a period of not more than 30 days. (4)Extra fatigue duties, not exceeding 2 hours daily, in connection with maintaining theinternment camp.

    Any single disciplinary punishment cannot go on for more than 30 consecutive days, althoughfurther discipline can be imposed after a 3-day period between punishments of 10 days ormore.

    However, these regulations on discipline and judicial proceedings are likely to be waived dueto the fact that the National Defense Authorization act would effectively override the need tocomply with any of these regulations.

    Civilian Internees can indeed be forced to perform labor. Compulsory labor is supposedlylimited to: (1) Administrative, maintenance, and domestic work in an internment camp. (2)Duties connected with the protection of the CIA against aerial bombardment or other warrisks. (3) Medical duties if they are professionally and technically qualified.

    Civilian Internees are only allowed a rest period of 24 consecutive hours every week and anypaid work is paid at a rate announced by the Department of the Army after the outbreak ofhostilities.

    The problem is not only that our government has a clearly outlined procedure for dealing withcivilians who are locked up for no reason at all, but that our government has a history of doingexactly that.

    It is also quite dangerous that under the NDAA, American citizens could easily be classified asEnemy Prisoners of War instead of Civilian Internees, giving them even less rights.

    Furthermore, under section 1031, anyone can be shipped off to any foreign country or handedover to any foreign entity, essentially waiving what few rights are afforded under thereregulations.

    With our so-called representatives in Congress voting 406-17 to make portions of themeetings in which they discuss H.R.1540 and S.1867 closed to the public in order to avoidpublic scrutiny, we are truly entering the dark ages of American history.

    Those individuals in Washington who we elected to represent us are now passing legislationthat is literally waging war against the people of the United States while keeping certainaspects of the process completely secret.

    These developments should be disturbing to every single American, no matter what yourpolitical persuasion.

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    We are watching the brutal counterterrorism apparatus that has plagued foreign nations andresulted in the pain and suffering of countless people around the globe turn back aroundagainst us.

    What will it take for the people of America to stand up and demand that our rights, as outlinedin the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, be preserved?

    Will it really take seeing your friends, family and neighbors snatched up in the middle of thenight, never to be seen again? If we really wait that long, I fear that it will be too late.

    The Indefinite Detention Bill Does Apply To AmericanCitizens On U.S. Soil

    Dont Be Fooled: The Indefinite Detention Bill DOES Apply to American Citizens

    Even at this 11th hour when all of our liberties and freedom are about to go down the drainmany people still dont understand that the indefinite detention bill passed by Congressallows indefinite detention of Americans on American soil.

    The bill is confusing. As Wired noted on December 1st:

    Its confusing, because two different sections of the bill seem to contradict each other, but inthe judgment of the University of Texas Robert Chesney a nonpartisan authority on militarydetention U.S. citizens are included in the grant of detention authority.

    A retired admiral, Judge Advocate General and Dean Emeritus of the University of NewHampshire School of Lawalso says that it applies to American citizens on American soil.The ACLU notes:

    Dont be confused by anyone claiming that the indefinite detention legislation does not applyto American citizens. It does. There is an exemption for American citizens from the mandatorydetention requirement (section 1032 of the bill), but no exemption for American citizens fromthe authorization to use the military to indefinitely detain people without charge or trial(section 1031 of the bill). So, the result is that, under the bill, the military has the power toindefinitely imprison American citizens, but it does not have to use its power unless orderedto do so.

    But you dont have to believe us. Instead, read what one of the bills sponsors, Sen. LindseyGraham said about it on the Senate floor: 1031, the statement of authority to detain, doesapply to American citizens and it designates the world as the battlefield, including the

    homeland.

    Another sponsor of the bill Senator Levin has also repeatedly said that the bill applies toAmerican citizens on American soil,citingthe Supreme Court case of Hamdi which ruled thatAmerican citizens can be treated as enemy combatants:

    The Supreme Court has recently ruled there is no bar to the United States holding one of itsown citizens as an enemy combatant, said Levin. This is the Supreme Court speaking.

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    Levin again stressed recently that the bill applies to American citizens, and said that it waspresident Obama who requested that it do so:

    Under questioning from Rand Paul, another co-sponsor John McCain said that Americanssuspected of terrorism could not only be indefinitely detained, but could be sent toGuantanamo:

    U.S. Congressman Justin Amash states in a letter to Congress:

    The Senates bill does not even distinguish between American citizens and non-citizens, orbetween persons caught domestically and abroad. The Presidents power, in his discretion, todetain persons he determines have supported associated forces applies just as strongly toAmericans seized on U.S. soil as it does to foreigners captured on a far away battlefield.Two retired 4-star generals (Charles C. Krulak and Joseph P. Hoar) write in the New YorkTimes:

    One provision in the bill would authorize the military to indefinitely detain without chargepeople suspected of involvement with terrorism, including United States citizens apprehendedon American soil. Due process would be a thing of the past.

    Colonel Lawrence Wilkerson General Colin Powells chief of staff says that the bill is a bigstep towards tyranny at home. Congressman Ron Paul says that it will establish martial law inAmerica.

    Indeed, Amash accuses lawmakers of attempting to intentionally misleadthe American peopleby writing a bill which appears at first glance to exclude U.S. citizens, when it actuallyincludes us:

    Pres. Obama and many Members of Congress believe the President ALREADY has theauthority the bill grants him. Legally, of course, he does not. This language was inserted tokeep proponents and opponents of the bill appeased, while permitting the President to assertthat the improper power he has claimed all along is now in statute.

    They will say that American citizens are specifically exempted under the following language inSec. 1032: The requirement to detain a person in military custody under this section does notextend to citizens of the United States. Dont be fooled. All this says is that the President isnot REQUIRED to indefinitely detain American citizens without charge or trial. It still PERMITShim to do so.

    Want Proof Foreign troops are here now in Americahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTMq0C0OKNg

    So many Foreign troops here on US soil? Why...Think about it... Last time I heard over a MILLION are here spread out waiting forwhat?

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    Do not be deceived: S. 1867 is the mostdangerous bill since the PATRIOT Act

    November 30, 2011By Maddison RuppertEditor ofEnd the Lie

    Recently I reported on the highly controversial bill S. 1253, the National Defense Authorization

    Act (NDAA) for the fiscal year of 2012 which was introduced back in June.

    This bill was replaced by the one introduced on the 15 th of November, S. 1867. Today SenatorRand Paul of Kentucky and Senator John McCain of Arizona faced off on the floor of theSenate over a proposed amendment to S. 1867.

    The minimal coverage this bill is getting in the corporate-controlled establishment media,especially when it comes to the massive danger it poses to everything America was builtupon, is nothing short of deplorable.

    This amendment would, according to Senator Paul, put every single American citizen at risk.Paul rightly pointed out that if the amendment were to pass, the terrorists have won.I couldnt agree more and this is the major fact that McCain and far too many others inWashington seem to miss. Or, equally likely, McCain and others are well aware of the erosionof civil liberties and have no interest in stopping it.

    After all, it isnt the sycophantic corrupt politicians in Washington that have to endure beinggroped by TSA goons orsurreptitiously blasted with X-Rays by a passing DHS van; it is theeveryday Americans like you and me that are subjected to such absurd counterterrorismmeasures.

    John McCain is a man who revels in death and suffering in true sociopathic style: joking aboutbombing Iran, calling formilitary operations in Syria, and supporting the murderous andthoroughly racist al Qaeda-affiliated Libyan rebels.

    McCain is the epitome of Washington doublethink: in Libya, al Qaeda is good. Yet, al Qaeda isstill the biggest threat to humanity, so much so that it justifies turning the entire world into atheater of war in which all rights are suspended in the name of the war on terror?

    Senator Paul argued against the amendment to S. 1867 that McCain co-sponsored by saying,Should we err today and remove some of the most important checks on state power in thename of fighting terrorism, well then the terrorists have won. Detaining American citizenswithout a court trial is not American.

    Unfortunately, the PATRIOT Act has already removed some of the most important checks onstate power in the name of fighting terrorism, but there are very few politicians who will puttheir careers on their line in saying this fact.

    McCain quickly attempted to defend the amendment hes been peddling on the Senate floor bysaying, Facts are stubborn things. If the senator from Kentucky wants to have a situationprevail where people who are released go back in to the fight to kill Americans, he is entitledto his opinion.

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    This is the typical, Either youre with us, or youre with the terrorists, fallacious logicemployed by those in Washington who will take every opportunity to exploit the non-threat ofterrorism as a method of control and erosion of civil liberties.

    McCain, who is the ranking member of the Senate Armed Services Committee, is a member ofthe camp of individuals who either lie on a regular basis while knowing the facts or are sodeluded and removed from reality that they actually fear the al Qaeda boogeyman.

    Senator McCain, just like the non-profit groups that are directly linked to the Department ofHomeland Security, promotes a fear of terrorism that is completely at odds with the facts,using this climate of fear and paranoia to justify otherwise unacceptable legislation like S.1867 and the PATRIOT Act.

    McCains proposed amendment would allow the executive branch, which hasalreadymurdered American citizens abroad without so much as a single charge, to have power over ifa suspect was put through the civilian court system or through the military tribunal system.Military tribunals are the complete antithesis of the civilian justice system and puttingAmerican citizens through such a system would signal the death of everything the American

    justice system was built upon.

    The most dangerous aspect of S. 1867 is not only that it could subject American citizens tomilitary tribunals and detention, but also that individuals could be imprisoned indefinitelywithout charge or trial.

    Even if this was not used on American citizens, it represents a deplorable move that wouldonly make the rest of the world hate us that much more, knowing that it is explicitly allowedfor the American government to snatch up people and detain them forever without charge ortrial.

    If any other government were to even consider engaging in such behavior, people like HillaryClinton who laughably claim to support human rights, would likely decry such moves.

    Yet, the nonsensical logic of American exceptionalism makes people like McCain think thatAmerica has the right to operate outside of the rule of law (not to mention common decencyand respect for other human beings) at home and abroad, so long as it is supposedly tocombat terrorism.

    Senator Paul countered McCains absurd assertion by saying, I dont think it necessarilyfollows I am arguing of the release of prisoners. I am simply arguing that particularlyAmerican citizens should not be sent to a foreign prison without due process.

    It amazes me that any such thing would have to even be argued. The Constitution is supposedto protect us from such egregious breaches of our inalienable rights and our so-calledrepresentatives take an oath to protect the Constitution from enemies both foreign and

    domestic.

    It is now clear that the true enemies of the Constitution, the ones that truly put our liberties indanger, are domestic.

    They wear expensive suits and happily stroll through the halls of power in Washington,seemingly confident that they will not be treated as the traitorous criminals that they are.McCain is one of these traitors who are launching an all-out assault on our way of life and ourcivil rights, S. 1867 is just the most recent, and most virulent, manifestation of this.

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    An individual, no matter who they are, if they pose a threat to the security of the UnitedStates of America, should not be allowed to continue that threat, McCain said in defense ofhis attack on our rights.

    We need to take every stop necessary to prevent that from happening, thats for the safetyand security of the men and women who are out there risking their lives in our armedservices, McCain added.

    The real people who put the men and women in our armed services at risk are warmongerslike McCain who happily put Americans in the line of fire in order to keep theirwar profiteeringcroniessatisfied.

    44 Republican Senators and 15 Democrats along with one Independent voted to keep the newdetainee provisions in the NDAA, with Senator Paul and Senator Mark Kirk of Illinois beingamong the few Republicans who broke party ranks and sided with a majority of Democratswho voted to block the new provisions.

    Paul argued, If these provisions pass, we could see American citizens being sent toGuantanamo Bay, while Republican Senator Lindsey Graham countered, To be clear: Theseprovisions do not apply to U.S. citizens.

    Did that stop the American government from murdering a citizen of the United States inYemen in a drone attack?

    No, in fact, the National Security Councils secret death panel makes these decisions outsideof all legislation and accountability, so Grahams claim that it wouldnt apply to Americancitizens is hollow, at best.

    A couple of days ago Glenn Greenwald, a journalist forSalon and a former Constitutional andcivil rights lawyertweeted a very similar sentiment:

    With very few exceptions, the McCain-Levin bill, awful though it is, doesnt create any powersbeyond what the Obama Administration thinks it now has.

    The problem is that this bill would make it explicitly legal for the United States to conduct thehorrific operations they have already been carrying out.

    If this were to pass, there would be absolutely nothing standing in the way of the governmentrounding up dissidents who they could easily label terrorists or individualsplanning/supporting terrorism (given the absurdly broad definition used).

    They could then imprison them without charge or trial for however long they please, and ifthey have their way, they would be able to openly torture them, not just the torture deceptively

    labeled enhanced interrogation but torture that can go by no other name.

    Of course, that is not to diminish the fact that the tactics now employed by the CIA and othersare indeed torture. Just ask people like conservative radio host Mancow who waswaterboarded and came to the conclusion that it is indeed torture after having held thecomplete opposite opinion previously.

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    Or if that isnt enough proof, take the Vanity Fairarticle written by Christopher Hitchens inwhich he describes his experience being waterboarded which brought him to the exact sameconclusion: waterboarding is torture.

    Even Bahrain ostensibly has more democratic accountability for torture, although I think weall know that is about as legitimate as calling waterboarding enhanced interrogation.

    McCain laughably claimed that the changes would help defend our nation against the threatposed by al Qaeda while upholding our values and honoring our Constitution.

    This is especially hilarious given that McCain said that the al Qaeda-affiliated Libyan rebelsinspired the world in carrying out their bloody revolution.

    Does McCain actually believe that he has the power to pick and choose when individuals andgroups directly linked to al Qaeda are good or bad?

    How can they actually reconcile such absurdist moral relativism? Personally, I dont think thatMcCain can actually believe the things he says unless he has actually been able to eliminateevery bit of sense and logic that is innate in human beings.

    To the many people commenting and emailing me claiming that this is overblown and it willnot apply to American citizens, you might want to listen to Republican Senator LindseyGrahams own words on the Senate floor.

    In summary here, section 1032, the military custody provision, which has waivers and a lot offlexibility doesnt apply to American citizens. Section 1031, the statement of authority todetain does apply to American citizens, and it designates the world as the battlefield includingthe homeland, Graham said.

    Is there really anything even remotely unclear here? Our government is making the finalstrides towards turning the brutal military apparatus that has slaughtered so many peopleabroad in the name of freedom back to our own people.

    What we are witnessing now is truly historic; the American government is trying to explicitlycodify the ability to detain Americans without trial or charge in a military facility under militaryrule with military tribunals.

    While I argue that we already live in a police state, based on the citizen spying programs,ludicrous amounts of domestic surveillance, collection and storage ofmassive amounts ofbiometric information, and the Department of Homeland Securitys invisible surveillance state(just to mention a few) the passage of this bill would bring about a new dangerous paradigmin America.

    Even if it was sold as something that wouldnt apply to American citizens, like the PATRIOTAct was sold as a counterterrorism bill, it would undoubtedly be used against us regardless ofthese claims, just as the PATRIOT Act has been utilized in cases wholly unrelated to terrorismEven the officials from the Department of Justice readily admit that the PATRIOT Act is beingused against non-terrorist American citizens.

    Is anyone really nave enough to believe that the government will actually restrict the usage ofS. 1867 to terrorists and not Americans who stand up to their corrupt, out of control, andwholly illegitimate criminal government?

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    To make matters even worse, the usage of drones in the United States is being considered bythe Federal Aviation Administration (FAA).

    The Los Angeles Timesrecently reported that the FAA plans to propose new rules this comingJanuary, which would give free license to police departments and other domestic agencies touse them in the United States.

    Yet, unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs), or drones, have been used by law enforcement in theUnited States for some time now.

    In fact, The Washington Postreported on the usage of aerial drones domestically in Januaryof this year along with Homeland Security News Wire.

    Currently, law enforcement agencies supposedly have to seek out emergency authorizationfrom the FAA to use drones, which, according to The Washington Postis only occasionallygranted.

    The new FAA regulations coupled with turning the United States into a battlefield in which allAmericans could be enemy combatants is dangerous, to say the least.

    Given the fact that our current administration under the traitorous warmonger Barack Obamahas no problemkilling childrenwith drones abroad, do we really think that they wouldntconduct such operations at home?

    To an administration that commits extrajudicial executions of American citizens and their16-year-old child who was born in Denver, Colorado is anything off the table?

    The unfortunate and thoroughly disturbing reality is that our government has no problemcarrying out such operations and S. 1867 would just make it that much easier by codifying itand creating an explicit legal apparatus through which they can operate.

    I highly recommend that you explore at least some of the 344 proposed amendments for S.1867 in the Library of Congress Thomas system which can be found here.

    You can track all of the updates on the act with the amendments organized by date on thisLibrary of Congress page.

    As you can tell, the 28th was by far the busiest day so far in the life of S. 1867 with over 100amendments considered in that single day, although this very well might be beat in comingdays when our so-called representatives continue to debate turning the United States into agiant battlefield.

    UPDATE: If the ridiculous assault on our inalienable rights embodied by S. 1867 wasnt

    enough, the Senate is also consideringrepealing the anti-torture measurescurrently in place(lax though they may be).

    This flies in the face of the fact that torture does not provide actionable intelligence oranything even remotely reliable unless youre looking for a false confession to anything fromterrorism to the assassination of Abraham Lincoln.

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    This bill must be stopped if we want to preserve anything that America is supposed to standfor. The PATRIOT Act was a crippling blow to the Constitution but S. 1867 would be the deathof every last bastion of hope and freedom that was left after the vicious attacks on our civilliberties that have brought us to this point.

    Following comment by Jack Graff:

    Exercise your right to bear arms before that right is taken away! This is the exact reason thatthe founding fathers gave us this right. It is to protect us from our own government and foreigngovernments (the whole purpose of the constitution and bill of rights). It will be impossible totake over control of America if everyone ist armed and willing to use those arms to protectthemselves. Don't obey any orders from the federal government! They only intend to strip youof your liberties. We have the advantage of the 2nd Amendment for now over 230 years. With100 million gun owners in America and with and estimate of half of those being ex military andLE and mostly likely a high percentage of the remainder being both small game and largegame hunters with the ability to hit consistently a man size target at 300-600 yards. So withthose assessments the Communists, Marxists, and Fascist in the government like Obama andthe two Arizona Senators Jon Kyl and John McCain along with ALL the rest have Signed TheirDeath Warrants. It does matter what amount of firepower the tyrants bring to bear if only 10%of the American gun owners of the 100 million rise up to win back our freedoms and libertiesthat is 10 million well armed true American patriots. The Communists, Marxists, and Fascist inthe government will constantly be looking over their shoulders and in fear for their lives notknowing when or wear a true American patriots bullet is going to strike and end theirworthless existence!

    U.N troops in America doing Martial Law drillshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrhYk2mbfsk&feature=related

    Following comment by Jack Graff:

    I as well as most everyone I served with in the military who may be retired but still posse

    specialized skills will fight to the death to kill as many of these bastard's as possible if theyeven trye to assert military power in our country. While I was just a humble helicopter pilotwhile attached to MAC-V SOG and latter assigned to the 160 SOAR (We own the night) thetruly deadly and dangerous guys I was just a taxi driver for Special Forces-Green Berets NavySEAL and Army Rangers are going to train the American Guerilla Freedom Force andTerminate With Extreme Prejudice ALL those communists, marxists, and fascist in thegovernment who will soon be nothing more than dead rotting human excrement

    America, the UN will take your guns awayhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4zP7_koRXQ&feature=related

    Hillary Clinton has committed to the UN Small Arms Treaty! What Americans don't realize isthat in the U.S. Constitution there is a clause which states that treaties will trump it.

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    Montana Town Occupied By Private Paramilitary Security Forceblacklistednews.com, 09-29-2009

    By Paul Joseph Watson

    A private security force whose biggest role is helping the U.S. government to "combatterrorism" is now patrolling the streets of a town in Montana, acting as law enforcement butaccountable to nobody and operating completely outside the limitations of the U.S.constitution in a chilling throwback to the brownshirts of Nazi Germany.

    The American Police Force organization is a paramilitary unit that "provides surveillance,investigative, and military services across the world," according to its website, which showsmen dressed in military fatigues carrying machine guns.

    "As part of our mission, APF plays a critical role in helping the U.S. government meet vitalhomeland security and national defense needs. Within the last 5 years the United States hasbeen far and away our #1 client. Technologies, programs, and services performed by APFhave played a very important role in U.S. military and civilian efforts to protect our homelandand combat terrorism," the website states.

    APF were originally contracted to provide security at a previously empty detention center inHardin, a small town in Montana, but are now patrolling the streets driving SUVs with "PoliceDepartment" printed on them despite the fact that Hardin doesnt have a police department.American Police Force has no jurisdiction in the area because it is a private organization, nota police force.

    According to Two Rivers Authority officials, having the private security force patrol the streetswas not part of the contract. "I have no idea. I really dont because thats not been a part ofany of the discussions weve had with any of them," Two Rivers Authoritys Al Peterson toldKULR 8 News. Peterson said that patrolling the streets was on the "wishlist" of APFs Captain

    Michael.

    The American Police Force is a shady outfit shrouded in suspicion. According to anAssociated Press report, questions over the legitimacy of the organization abound."Government contract databases show no record of the company. Security industryrepresentatives and federal officials said they had never heard of it. On its Web site, thecompany lists as its headquarters a building in Washington near the White House that holds"virtual offices." A spokeswoman for the building said American Police Force nevercompleted its application to use the address," reports AP.

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    Furthermore, APF was tasked with filling the empty Hardin detention center with inmates,without any clear indication of where those prisoners would come from.

    "Its unclear where the company will get the inmates for the jail. Montana says its not sendinginmates to the jail, and neither are federal officials in the state," according to the report.Maybe the inmates will be the local population of Hardin if American Police Force is allowed tocontinue to pose as a law enforcement outfit in the town, which is exactly what they intend todo for at least another month.

    Having a private security force whose stated mission is to help the U.S. government "combatterrorism" patrol the streets of small towns in America without even having the authority to doso from local authorities is obviously a frightening pretext and harks back to the privateparamilitary forces that helped Adolf Hitler rise to power in Nazi Germany.Many fear that if martial law is declared in response to a flu pandemic or other emergency,private security forces such as APF will be used by the government to oppress citizens byoperating outside of the law.

    This is completely unconstitutional and a flagrant threat to the liberty and security of thepopulation of Hardin. The County Sheriff is effectively breaking the law if he doesntimmediately kick APF out of the area and end the occupation of the town by a privateparamilitary army.

    Following comment by Jack Graff:

    Sorry Obama you're not getting my guns. Go ahead, send your Jack Booted Nazi Gestapofucks and they'll ALL die. Fuck the U.N.! I WILL NOT COMPLY. I DOf NOT RECOGNIZEFOREIGN OR INTERNATIONAL LAWS ON AMERICAN SOIL. Try taking our weapons and you'llfeel the wrath of millions of pissed off ARMED Americans.I'll kill any mother fucker coming totake my weapons dead on the spot! As to what you can expect read my previous commentabove!!!

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    LAST WARNING! LEAVE AMERICA NOW! DESTRUCTION IS COMING!!!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZJ2qzsNbac

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