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Bob Myhan, Evangelist
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Proposition
“The Bible teaches that Jesus
of Nazareth, while on the
cross, was not forsaken by His
heavenly Father.”
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By "The Bible Teaches" I Mean:
•The Word of God conveys to our minds what He wants us to know by:
1 Telling us what He wants us to know
2 Showing us what He wants us to know
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By “Was Not Forsaken By His Heavenly Father” I Mean:
•The Father DID NOT leave Jesus “alone.”
•The Father DID NOT “separate from Jesus.”
•Jesus DID NOT experience “Spiritual death.”
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By “Was Not Forsaken By His Heavenly Father” I Mean:
•IT IS NOT THE CASE THAT “Jesus suffered … separation from the Father.”
•IT IS NOT THE CASE THAT “the Father had to withdraw His presence from Him at that time in order for Jesus to suffer the punishment of sinners.”
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The Passage In Question
•"My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me?" (Matthew 27.46)
•At first glance this verse seems to imply that God the Father had forsaken His Son, left His Son alone, separated from His Son, abandoned His Son, or withdrawn His presence from His Son.
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Jesus therefore, knowing all things that would come upon Him, went forward and said to them, "Whom are you seeking?" John 18.4
(1) Jesus knew what was coming so why would it be a surprise that God had forsaken Him if God had forsaken Him?
(2) Not only would Jesus have known that God would forsake Him but He would know why. (“All things”)
(3) Does Jesus not know whom the temple guard is seeking?
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Did the Father Ever Leave The Son Alone?
“…The Father has not left Me alone, for I always do those things that please Him.” (John 8.28-29)
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Did the Father Ever Leave The Son Alone?
“Indeed the hour is coming, yes, has now
come, that you will be scattered, each to
his own, and will leave Me alone. And yet
I am not alone, because the Father is with
Me.” (John 16.32)
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Did Jesus Experience Spiritual Death?
•“Most assuredly, I say to you, if anyone keeps My word he shall never see death." (John 8.51)
•Did Jesus keep His own Word?
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The Lord Our God Is One
•This divine oneness has always existed and also will.
•“Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one.” Deut. 6.4
•“I and the Father are one.” John 10.30
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Why Did Jesus Quote Psalm 22.1?
•“My God, My God, Why Have You Forsaken Me?”
•NOT to describe the actual relationship between Him and the Father.
•But to describe how it appeared to the onlookers and to show that Psalm 22 was being fulfilled before their eyes.
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“My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?”
• Had God Forsaken His son at this particular moment in time?
• If He had, would Jesus not know why He had?
• Jesus knew from eternity past that this moment would come (John 12.27).
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•He knew about Psalm 22 long before He came to earth.
•He inspired David to write Psalm 22.
•How could He have been surprised at His Father’s actions at any time?
“My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?”
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•How could He have been unsure of His Father’s motives at any time?
•He had to know He was quoting Psalm 22.1 and He must have had a purpose in quoting it.
“My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?”
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Parallel Experiences
Matt. 27.46“My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?”
Psalm 22.1“My God, my God, why have You forsaken me?”
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Parallel Experiences
Matt. 27.39“And those passing by were hurling abuse at Him, wagging their heads.”
Psalm 22.7“All who see me sneer at me; They separate with the lip, they wag the head,”
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Parallel Experiences
Matt. 27.43“He trusts in God; let God rescue Him now, if He delights in Him….”
Psalm 22.8"Commit yourself to the LORD; let Him deliver him; Let Him rescue him, because He delights in him.”
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Parallel Experiences
Matt. 27.35“And when they had crucified Him, they divided up His garments among themselves by casting lots.”
Psalm 22.18“They divide my garments among them, And for my clothing they cast lots.”
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Psalm 22 Teaches The Exact Opposite!
• “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?” (v1)
• “For He has not despised nor abhorred the affliction of the afflicted; Nor has He hidden His face from Him; But when He cried to Him, He heard.” (v24)
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Psalm 22 Teaches The Exact Opposite!
• “…who, in the days of His flesh, when He had offered up prayers and supplications, with vehement cries and tears to Him who was able to save Him from death, and was heard because of His godly fear…” (Heb. 5.7)
• John 11.42 affirms that the Father always hears His Son.
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“My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?”
• Had God Forsaken His son at this particular moment in time?
• If He had, would Jesus not know why He had?
• Jesus knew from eternity past that this moment would come (John 12.27).
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• He knew about Psalm 22 long before He came to earth.
• He inspired David to write Psalm 22.
• How could He have been surprised at His Father’s actions at any time?
“My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?”
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• How could He have been unsure of His Father’s motives at any time?
• He had to know He was quoting Psalm 22.1 and He must have had a purpose in quoting it.
“My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?”
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• His purpose was to call attention to the fact that His enemies at the foot of the cross were fulfilling the prophecy.
• But He could not possibly have been bewildered.
“My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?”
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The First Three Sayings
1. Then Jesus said, "Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they do.”
2. And Jesus said to him, "Assuredly, I say to you, today you will be with me in Paradise.”
3. He said to His mother, "Woman, behold your son!" Then He said to the disciple, "Behold your mother!"
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The Next Two Sayings
4. Jesus cried out with a loud voice, saying, … “My God, My God, why have you forsaken me?”
5. After this, Jesus, knowing that all things were now accomplished, that the Scripture might be fulfilled, said, "I thirst!” (John 19.28; Psalm 22.15)
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The Last Two Sayings
6. So when Jesus had received the sour wine, He said, "It is finished!”
7. And when Jesus had cried out with a loud voice, He said, "Father, 'into your hands I commit my spirit.'"
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NThings Violated By Substitutionary Atonement
• Denies the nature of man (Ezek. 18.4, 20).
• Denies the nature of God / fractures the Godhead (Deut. 6.4; John 10.30).–The Godhead cannot be fractured and
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Pat Did Not Answer This Last Night:
• “For in Him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily…” (Col 2.9 NKJV)
• When Jesus was full of sin, did He still have the fullness of the Godhead bodily?
• Christ is God (John 1.1). Did God impute sin to God?
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Godhead Fractured?• If yes, did Jesus cease to be God?
• If no, God was full of sin.
• Incidentally, what was the role of the Holy Spirit in this alleged separation?
• Did He also separate FROM Christ?
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Pat Answer This:• “This is the message we have heard from him
and proclaim to you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.” (1 John 1.5)
• “Again Jesus spoke to them, saying, ‘I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will not walk in darkness, but will have the light of life.’” (John 8.12)
• PSAT denies the deity of Christ. He CANNOT be God AND sin AT THE SAME TIME.
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NThings Violated By Substitutionary Atonement
• Denies the nature of sin (Ezek. 18.4, 20).– The punishment for sin is due to the one who
commits it (Ezek. 18.21; John 8.34).
• Denies the nature of sin forgiveness (Eph. 2.4-5).– Not by a system of “Penal Satisfaction,” but by
the mercy of God.– One’s sins are forgiven, not transferred to Jesus.
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Jesus Had Amnesia
According to Pat, Jesus forgot the Father would have to forsake Him and why.
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Lied, Mistaken Or What?
Pat says, “When Jesus asked the
Father why he had forsaken him
(Matt 27.46), Jesus either lied, or
was mistaken, or was correct (that
he was forsaken).”
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Lied, Mistaken Or What? #2
When the Lord God called to Adam
and said to him, "Where are you?"
(Genesis 3.9), He either lied, or
was mistaken, or he did not know
where Adam was.
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Lied, Mistaken Or What? #2
When the Lord God asked Adam,
"Who told you that you were naked”
(Gen. 3.11), He either lied, or was
mistaken, or he did not know how
Adam came to know that he was
naked.
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Lied, Mistaken Or What? #3
When the Lord God asked Adam, "Have you eaten from the tree of which I commanded you that you should not eat?” (Gen. 3.11), He either lied, or was mistaken, or he did not know Adam had eaten of that tree.
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NWhy Does God Ask Questions?To Teach Not To Learn!
• “Where are you?” (Gen. 3.9)
• “Who told you that you were naked? Have you eaten of the tree of which I commanded you not to eat?” (Gen. 3.11)
• “Why are you angry, and why has your face fallen?” (Gen. 4.6)
• “Where is Abel your brother?” (Gen. 4.9)
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To Teach Not To Learn!
• The baptism of John--where was it from? From heaven or from men? (Matt. 21.25)
• "Why do you test Me, you hypocrites? (Matt. 22.18)
• "Whose image and inscription is this?” (Matt. 22.20)
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To Teach Not To Learn!
• "Woman, where are those accusers of yours? Has no one condemned you?” (John 8.10)
• “Judas, would you betray the Son of Man with a kiss?” (Luke 22.38)
• “Whom do you seek?” (John 18.4, 7)
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Jesus Frequently Taught By Question
“After three days they found him in the
temple, sitting among the teachers,
listening to them and asking them
questions. And all who heard him were
amazed at his understanding and his
answers.” (Luke 2.46-47)
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Questions Asked By Deity
Questions asked by God and Jesus were to provoke thought!
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Isaiah 1.18
“Come now, let us reason together, says the Lord…”
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Pat’s Negative Position
• Premillennialists believe Jesus was a failure.
• Pat believes Jesus was a confused, bewildered sinner – not knowing what was going on or why!
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Did Jesus Have This Promise?
• “…He will not leave you or forsake you.” (Deut. 31.6 ESV)
• “…I will not leave you or forsake you.” (Josh. 1.5 ESV)
• “For the Lord loves justice; he will not forsake his saints…” (Psalm 37.28 ESV)
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Did Jesus Have This Promise? #2
“Keep your life free from love of
money, and be content with what
you have, for he has said, “I will
never leave you nor forsake you.”
(Heb. 13.5 ESV)
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What Way Were They One?
• “In what sense were they still One if they were separated?” – Bob Myhan
• Pat: “All of the many, many ways they were one before except in fellowship (or whatever Matt 27.46 is referring to). Why ask this question? Matt 27.46 teaches the Father forsook Jesus. If you deny He did, then deal with the verse.”
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Were They One Or Not?
• Fellowship & oneness are the same (John 17.20-25).
• Therefore, if they were not in fellowship, they were not one.
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Forsaken From The Foundation Of The World?
• “…the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.” Rev. 13.8
• If Jesus was “slain from the foundation of the world” and He died both physically and spiritually, would he not have been forsaken “from the foundation of the world”?
• If this is the case, the Son has always been separated from His Father.
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What Does “Propitiation” Mean?
• My opponent’s entire position rests on the meaning he attaches to the word “propitiation.”
• He claims that it means “appeasement.”
• Supposedly, the shed blood of Jesus Christ propitiated or “appeased” the wrath of God.
• But the wrath of God is never said to be propitiated.
• Nor does propitiation mean “appeasement.”
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What Is Propitiation?• Does it mean “appeasement”?
• Is God’s wrath said to be propitiated by the blood of Christ?
• Is God or God’s wrath ever said to be the object of propitiation?
• Is God or God’s wrath ever said to be the object of propitiation?
• This would imply that God is reconciled to us!
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Rom. 3.25 - Propitiation & Sin
• “…whom God put forward as a propitiation by his blood, to be received by faith. This was to show God's righteousness, because in his divine forbearance he had passed over former sins.”
•Whatever Jesus did as a propitiation the fact remains that people still had their sins could only be forgiven by God’s grace and man’s obedient faith.
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What Does “Propitiation” Mean?
• Romans 3.25 “…whom God put forward as a propitiation by his blood….” (ESV)
• 1 John 2.1-3 “He is the propitiation for our sins….” (ESV)
• 1 John 4.10 “…he loved us and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins.” (ESV)
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What Does “Propitiation” Mean?
• Romans 3.25 “God presented him as a sacrifice of atonement…” (NIV)
• 1 John 2.2 “He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins….” (NIV)
• 1 John 4.10 “…he loved us and sent his Son as an atoning sacrifice for our sins.” (NIV)
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• Romans 3.25 “God put Yeshua forward as the kapparah for sin…” (CJB)
• 1 John 2.2 “He is the kapparah for sin…” (CJB)
• 1 John 4.10 “…and sent his Son to be the kapparah for our sins.” (CJB)
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What Does “Propitiation” Mean?
•Hebrews 2.17 “…to make propitiation for the sins of the people.” (ESV)
•Hebrews 2.17 “…making a kapparah for the sins of the people.”(CJB)
•Hebrews 2.17 “…that he might make atonement for the sins of the people.”(NIV)
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What Does “Propitiation” Mean?
• Our sins are propitiated not God’s wrath.
• Are our sins “appeased”?
• No, our sins are propitiated.
• Therefore, propitiation does not mean “appeasement.”
• It means “covering.”
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When Does “Propitiation” Occur?
• Under the Law of Moses the people’s sins were not atoned for until the blood of the atoning sacrifice was sprinkled on the mercy-seat.
• Likewise, in the anti-type the people’s sins are not propitiated until the blood of Christ was sprinkled on the mercy-seat in heaven itself.
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F.F. Bruce on 1 John 2.2
The “biblical sense” of propitiation – “…not
as something which men must do to
placate God, but something which God has
provided in His grace to bring men into His
presence with the assurance that they are
accepted by Him.” (The Gospel and Epistles
of John, pp. 50)
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Heb. 9.23-24 ESV
“Thus it was necessary for the copies of the heavenly things to be purified with
these rites, but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than
these. 24 For Christ has entered, not into holy places made with hands, which are
copies of the true things, but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of
God on our behalf.”
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Romans 8.3
• το γαραδυνατον του νομου ενω ησθενει δια της σαρκος ο θεος τον
εαυτου υιον πεμψας εν ομοιωματι σαρκος αμαρτιας και περι αμαρτιας
κατεκρινεν τηναμαρτιαν εν τησαρκι (1881 Westcott-Hort New Testament
• ….. God did. sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and as an offering for sin, …. (NASB)
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Isaiah 53.4 NKJV
• “Surely He has borne (nasa: “to remove”) our griefs And carried (sabal: synonym of nasa) our sorrows; Yet we esteemed Him stricken, Smitten by God, and afflicted.”
• Ex. 32.32; 34.7; Num. 14.18 translate “nasa” by “forgive”
• Gen. 50.17 - Joseph was asked to forgive (nasa) his brothers (no transferal of sin)
• Ex. 10.17 - Moses was asked to forgive Pharaoh (no transferal of sin)
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Isaiah 53.4b
• “That evening they brought to him many who were oppressed by demons, and he cast out the spirits with a word and healed all who were sick.” (Matt. 8.16 ESV: Inspired Commentary)
• If He took upon Himself all our sins, did He take upon Himself all our diseases?
• Jesus did not have demons, leprosy, blindness or sickness “transferred” to Him by “taking” or “bearing” them - He took them AWAY!
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• “This was to fulfill what was spoken by the prophet Isaiah. “He took our illnesses and bore our diseases.” (Matt. 8.17 ESV)
• “Surely he has borne our griefs and carried our sorrows…” (Isaiah 53.4 ESV)
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• Did Jesus grieve as a result of “bearing” the griefs of others?
• Did he become sorrowful as a result of “carrying” the sorrows of others?
• Did Jesus get a fever when he cured Peter's mother-in-law?
• Did demons possess Jesus when he cast them out of others?
• Did Jesus get sick as a result of healing those who were sick?
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Imputation Of Sin
• When man’s sins were imputed TO Christ, were they not imputed FROM man?
• Would this not leave man SINLESS?
• How did Jesus get rid of the sins?
• Did the sins that were imputed to Christ disappear?
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All Human Sin To Christ:
• At what point were all humans without sin (righteous)?
• At what point did the Father impute righteousness again to Christ?
• At what point did the Father impute sin again to humans?
• How is the imputation of sin consistent with divine justice?
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Our Sins Are Remembered No More
•“…For I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.” (Jer. 31.34)
•“He will again have compassion on us; he will tread our iniquities underfoot. You will cast all our sins into the depths of the sea.” (Micah 7.19)
•“…as far as the east is from the west, so far does he remove our transgressions from us.” (Psalm 103.12) 69
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John 1.29 Does Not Say…
“Behold, the lamb of God, who takes ON the
sins of the world.”Instead … “takes away”
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1 Peter 2.24
• The meaning is that Jesus REMOVED our sins in His own body
• He TOOK our sins by His sacrifice
• “…behold, the lamb of god, who takes away the sins of the world.” (John 1.29)
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Bible Contradiction?
• “He himself bore our sins in his body on the tree…” (1 Peter 2.24 ESV)
• “You know that he appeared in order to take away sins, and in him there is no sin.” (1 John 3.5 ESV)
• Did John or Peter lie? Or is Pat wrong?
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“Bear” In Heb. 7.27; 9.28 & 1 Peter 2.24
“He has no need, like those high priests, to offer (anaphero) sacrifices daily, first for his own sins and then for those of the people, since he did this once for all when he offered (anaphero) up himself.” Heb. 7.27, ESV
• “Anaphero” also used in Heb. 9.28 (“bear the sins of many”) and 1 Peter 2.24 (“bore our sins”)
• If “bear” means substitution, was the High Priest a substitute? For “himself”?
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Isaiah 53.5b
•“With His stripes you are healed” quoted by Peter in 1 Peter 2.24.
•“...who His own self bare our sins in His body upon the tree, that we, having died unto sins, might live unto righteousness; by whose stripes ye were healed.”
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•Hebrews 9.26 & 28. Inspired Commentary
“..else must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world. but now once at the end of the ages hath he been manifested to put away (athetesin) sin by the sacrifice of himself.” Heb. 9.26
“..so Christ also, having been once offered to bear (anaphero) the sins of many, shall appear a second time, apart from sin, to them that wait for him, unto salvation.” Heb. 9.28
26 – Jesus died to “put away” (remove) sin
28 – Jesus died to “bear” (take away) sin
Jesus “bore” our sins in that He took them away - no transference
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Who Punished/Killed Jesus?
• God or Man?
• “He was despised and rejected by men…”
• “…as one from whom men hide their faces…”
• “…he was despised, and we esteemed him
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• “…yet we esteemed him stricken, smitten by
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Spiritual Death
Second Death
Physical Death
Sacrifice For Sin
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Sinless Sacrifice?
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Sinless Sacrifice Or Sinful Substitute?Can He be both? Simultaneously?
• “…the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.” (Rev. 13.8 NKJV)
• “…for then he would have had to suffer repeatedly since the foundation of the world. But as it is, he has appeared once for all at the end of the ages to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself.” (Heb. 9.26 ESV)
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The soul who sins shall die. The son shall not suffer for the iniquity of the father, nor the father suffer for
the iniquity of the son. The righteousness of the righteous shall be upon himself, and the wickedness
of the wicked shall be upon himself. Ezekiel 18.20
Destroys imputation of our sins to ChristDestroys imputation of Adam’s sin to mankind
Destroys imputation of Christ’s righteousness to mankind
Why is this hard to understand?
All Three Forms Are DestroyedBy Ezekiel 18.20
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For God made Christ, who never sinned, to be the offering for our sin, so that we could be made right with God through Christ. (NLT)
2 Corinthians 5.21
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One Man’s Prayer
• I pray that the debate will address the main point of the question as it applies to members of the Lord's church... was Christ' sacrifice a demonstration of God's wrath, or of His mercy and grace?
• Did Christ die on behalf of all mankind, or was He crucified in our place?
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One Man’s Prayer #2
• Was His death God's gift to man, or penal substitution?
• Did Christ "punch everyone's (the elect) ticket", or must man appropriate God's gift by the agency of his own obedient faith?
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Parallel Experiences
Psalm 22.1• My God, my God, why have
you forsaken me? Why are you so far from saving me, from the words of my groaning?
Matt. 27.46• And about the ninth hour
Jesus cried out with a loud voice, saying, “Eli, Eli, lema sabachthani?” that is, “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?”
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Parallel Experiences
Psalm 22.2• O my God, I cry by day, but
you do not answer, and by night, but I find no rest.
Matthew 26.38-39• Then he said to them, “My
soul is very sorrowful, even to death; remain here, and watch with me.” 39 And going a little farther he fell on his face and prayed, saying, “My Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me; nevertheless, not as I will, but as you will.”
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• Yet you are holy, enthroned on the praises of Israel. 4 In you our fathers trusted; they trusted, and you delivered them. 5 To you they cried and were rescued; in you they trusted and were not put to shame. Psalm 22.3-5
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Parallel Experiences
Psalm 22.6• But I am a worm and not a
man, scorned by mankind and despised by the people.
Luke 23.21-23• 21 but they kept shouting,
“Crucify, crucify him!” 22 A third time he said to them, “Why, what evil has he done? I have found in him no guilt deserving death. I will therefore punish and release him.” 23 But they were urgent, demanding with loud cries that he should be crucified. And their voices prevailed.
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Psalm 22.7• All who see me mock me;
they make mouths at me; they wag their heads;
Matthew 27.39• And those who passed by
derided him, wagging their heads
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Psalm 22.8• “He trusts in the Lord; let
him deliver him; let him rescue him, for he delights in him!”
Matthew 27.41-43• 41 So also the chief priests,
with the scribes and elders, mocked him, saying, 42 “He saved others; he cannot save himself. He is the King of Israel; let him come down now from the cross, and we will believe in him. 43 He trusts in God; let God deliver him now, if he desires him. For he said, ‘I am the Son of God.’”
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• Yet you are he who took me from the womb; you made me trust you at my mother's breasts. 10 On you was I cast from my birth and from my mother's womb you have been my God. Psalm 22.9-10
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Psalm 22.11• Be not far from me, for
trouble is near, and there is none to help.
Mark 14.50• And they all left him and
fled.
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Psalm 22.12-13• Many bulls encompass me;
strong bulls of Bashan surround me; they open wide their mouths at me, like a ravening and roaring lion.
John 19.1-6
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Psalm 22.14• I am poured out like water,
and all my bones are out of joint; my heart is like wax; it is melted within my breast;
John 19.34• But one of the soldiers
pierced his side with a spear, and at once there came out blood and water.
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Psalm 22.14• I am poured out like water,
and all my bones are out of joint; my heart is like wax; it is melted within my breast;
Matthew 27.35• And when they had
crucified him, they divided his garments among them by casting lots.
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Psalm 22.15• my strength is dried up
like a potsherd, and my tongue sticks to my jaws; you lay me in the dust of death.
John 19.28• After this, Jesus, knowing
that all was now finished, said (to fulfill the Scripture), “I thirst.”
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Psalm 22.15• my strength is dried up
like a potsherd, and my tongue sticks to my jaws; you lay me in the dust of death.
John 19.30• When Jesus had received
the sour wine, he said, “It is finished,” and he bowed his head and gave up his spirit.
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Psalm 22.16• For dogs encompass me; a
company of evildoers encircles me; they have pierced my hands and feet
Luke 23.36• The soldiers also mocked
him, coming up and offering him sour wine
• Cf. Matthew 15:21-28
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Psalm 22.16• For dogs encompass me; a
company of evildoers encircles me; they have pierced my hands and feet
Matthew 27.41-43 • Likewise also the chief priests
mocking him, with the scribes and elders, said, 42 He saved others; himself he cannot save. If he be the King of Israel, let him now come down from the cross, and we will believe him. 43 He trusted in God; let him deliver him now, if he will have him: for he said, I am the Son of God.”
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Psalm 22.16• For dogs encompass me; a
company of evildoers encircles me; they have pierced my hands and feet
Matthew 27.35• And when they had
crucified him, they divided his garments among them by casting lots.
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Psalm 22.17• I can count all my bones—
they stare and gloat over me;
John 19.32-33• 32 So the soldiers came
and broke the legs of the first, and of the other who had been crucified with him. 33 But when they came to Jesus and saw that he was already dead, they did not break his legs.
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Psalm 22.17• I can count all my bones—
they stare and gloat over me;
Luke 23.35• And the people stood by,
watching, but the rulers scoffed at him, saying, “He saved others; let him save himself, if he is the Christ of God, his Chosen One!”
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Psalm 22.18• they divide my garments
among them, and for my clothing they cast lots.
John 19.23-24• 23 When the soldiers had
crucified Jesus, they took his garments and divided them into four parts, one part for each soldier; also his tunic. But the tunic was seamless, woven in one piece from top to bottom, 24 so they said to one another, “Let us not tear it, but cast lots for it to see whose it shall be.” This was to fulfill the Scripture which says, “They divided my garments among them, and for my clothing they cast lots.” So the soldiers did these things, 105
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• But you, O Lord, do not be far off! O you my help, come quickly to my aid! 20 Deliver my soul from the sword, my precious life from the power of the dog! 21 Save me from the mouth of the lion! You have rescued me from the horns of the wild oxen! Psalm 22.19-21
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Psalm 22.22• I will tell of your name to
my brothers; in the midst of the congregation I will praise you:
Hebrews 2:10-12• 10 For it was fitting that he, for
whom and by whom all things exist, in bringing many sons to glory, should make the founder of their salvation perfect through suffering. 11 For he who sanctifies and those who are sanctified all have one source. That is why he is not ashamed to call them brothers, 12 saying, “I will tell of your name to my brothers; in the midst of the congregation I will sing your praise.”
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• You who fear the Lord, praise him! All you offspring of Jacob, glorify him, and stand in awe of him, all you offspring of Israel! Psalm 22.23
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Psalm 22.24• For he has not despised or
abhorred the affliction of the afflicted, and he has not hidden his face from him, but has heard, when he cried to him.
Hebrews 5.5-10
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Psalm 22.25-28• From you comes my praise in the
great congregation; my vows I will perform before those who fear him. 26 The afflicted shall eat and be satisfied; those who seek him shall praise the Lord! May your hearts live forever! 27 All the ends of the earth shall remember and turn to the Lord,and all the families of the nations shall worship before you. 28 For kingship belongs to the Lord, and he rules over the nations.
John 12.32• And I, when I am lifted up from
the earth, will draw all people to myself.”
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Psalm 22.29-31• All the prosperous of the
earth eat and worship; before him shall bow all who go down to the dust, even the one who could not keep himself alive. 30 Posterity shall serve him; it shall be told of the Lord to the coming generation; 31 they shall come and proclaim his righteousness to a people yet unborn, that he has done it.
John 12.32; 19.30• And I, when I am lifted up from
the earth, will draw all people to myself.”
• When Jesus had received the sour wine, he said, “It is finished,” and he bowed his head and gave up his spirit. 19.30
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Hamartia Translated As “Sin Offering” in 2 Cor. 5.21
• The Living Oracles, 1826
• New Living Translation, 2007
• Complete Jewish Bible, 1998
• Orthodox Jewish Bible, 2011
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Hamartia Translated As “Sin Offering” in 2 Cor. 5.21
• NIV Footnote. “be a sin offering”, 2011
• NEB Ftnt. or, and yet God made him a sin-offering for us
• NASB Study Bible annotations. Or, "be a sin offering"
• Believers S B A. could mean "to be a sin-offering"
• McCord's NT of the Everlasting Gospel. "to be a sin-offering on our behalf"
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Hamartia Translated As “Sin Offering” / “Offering(s) For Sin” / “Sacrifices For Sin” In Heb. 10.8
King James VersionNew King James Version
American Standard VersionNew American Standard Bible
New International VersionYoung’s Literal Translation
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Hamartia Translates the Hebrew word for “Sin Offering” In LXX
• Exodus 29.14, 36• Exodus 30.10• Leviticus 4.3; 8; 14; 20, 21, 24, 25, 29 (2), 32, 33
(2), 34• Leviticus 5.6, 7, 8, 9 (2), 11 (2), 12• Leviticus 6.17, 25 (2), 30• Leviticus 7.7, 37• Leviticus 8.2, 14 (2)
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Hamartia Translates the Hebrew word for “Sin Offering” In LXX
• Leviticus 9.2, 3, 7, 8, 10, 15 (2), 22• Leviticus 10.16, 17, 19 (2)• Leviticus 12.6, 8• Leviticus 14.13 (2), 19, 22, 31• Leviticus 15.15, 30• Leviticus 16.3, 5, 6, 9, 11 (2), 15, 25, 27 (2)• Leviticus 23.19
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Hamartia Translates the Hebrew word for “Sin Offering” In LXX
• Numbers 6.11, 14, 16• Numbers 7.16, 22, 28, 34, 40, 46, 52, 58, 64, 70,
76, 82, 87• Numbers 8.8, 12• Numbers 15.24, 25, 27• Numbers 18.9• Numbers 19.9, 17• Numbers 28.15, 22• Numbers 29.5, 11 (2), 16, 19, 22, 25, 28, 31, 34, 38
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“But the serpent said to the woman, “You will not surely die.” (Gen. 3.4)
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