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Page 1: Multi-hop PANA IETF 62. 2 Currently: –“For simplicity, it is assumed that the PAA is attached to the same link as the device (i.e., no intermediary IP

Multi-hop PANA

IETF 62

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• Currently:– “For simplicity, it is assumed that

the PAA is attached to the same link as the device (i.e., no intermediary IP routers).”

• Objective of this presentation:– Discuss removal of this constraint

• Benefit: Flexible deployments

• Cost: see slides…

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mhop EAP Bar Bof

• Need mhop EAP lower-layer for AAA of:– network access service

• Pre-authentication• Ad-hoc networks• Simple

– MIP6– SNMP– “any” service

• Scope of mhop PANA is “network access AAA”– mhop PANA may help some of the network access

scenarios

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Considerations

• PAA discovery

• IP addressing

• EP location

• NAT traversal

• TTL check

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PAA Discovery

• If the PAA is not on-link, how does the PAA discovery work?– Option 1: Define a new DHCP option– Option 2: “Traffic driven discovery”

• EP detects PDI, RS, DHCP, etc.; triggers PAA via PANA-SNMP

– Option 3: Preconfigured– No changes on the PANA spec.

• If there are multiple PAAs?– Same issue applies to 1-hop PANA as well– Current spec: PaC picks any

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IP Addressing

• A link-local PRPA is not suitable for mhop PANA deployments.

• Include a “deployment consideration” text in the PANA framework I-D:– “If PAA is multiple hops away from the PaC,

the access network must allow non-link-local PRPA configuration.”

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EP Location

• No changes are proposed on the location of EP– L2 access device (e.g., IEEE 802.11 AP)– Access router

• PAA must know the location of EP(s)– Same as before.

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NAT traversal (1/2)

• What happens if there is a NAT between EP and PAA?– IP-Address and DI AVPs checked against IP header

• DI AVP: Bind DI to PANA session– PaC DI is the IP address when IPsec is used.– PAA delivers DI to EP.

• IP-Address AVP: – Bind PAA IP address to PANA session– If PaC IP address changes (e.g., run DHCP after PANA), PaC notifies

PAA

• Did we really need the integrity checks?– IP address theft/spoofing – IP address ownership issue

PaC EP/AR NAT PAA

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NAT traversal (2/2)

• UDP destination port in request messages set to PANA_port.– PAA requests sent to PaC -- port mapping issue

• Proposal:– Option 1: Remove the integrity checks, handle port

issue

– Option 2: Include a deployment considerations text: “NAT between PaC and PAA is not supported”.

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TTL

• Drop the TTL check on both PaC and PAA

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• Any other issues?

• Re-charter?– “For simplicity, it is assumed that

the PAA is attached to the same link as the device (i.e., no intermediary IP routers).”