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MINUTES OF MEETING – 426 Heritage Council of NSW

3 February 2016 Commencing at 9.00 am

Heritage Division, Office of Environment and Heritage 3 Marist Place Parramatta NSW

PRESENT

Mr Stephen Davies (Chair) Dr Mark Dunn (Deputy Chair) Dr Deborah Dearing Ms Jennifer Davis Dr Raymond Kelly Ms Josephine Wing (for Secretary, Department of Planning & Environment) Mr Peter Poulet (Observer, Government Architect) Mr Bruce Pettman (Observer, Government Architect’s Office)

APOLOGIES Ms Jane Irwin Ms Lisa Newell – Observer

HERITAGE DIVISION ATTENDEES

Ms Pauline McKenzie – A/Executive Director, Heritage Division Ms Kylie Seretis – Senior Manager, Policy & Strategy Dr Siobhan Lavelle OAM – Manager, Listings Ms Rochelle Johnston – A/Senior Manager Mr Rajeev Maini – A/ Manager, Conservation Mr Robert Nicoll, Mrs Colleen Klingberg – Secretariat Unit (minutes) Mr Anthony Dann - Financial Controller, Regional Operations Group and Heritage Division (Item 4.1) Ms Mary Ann Hamilton (Item 5.1) – Listings Section Mr Michael Ellis (Item 5.1, 6.5 & 6.8), Ms Nina Pollock (Item 6.1), Mr Gary Estcourt and Mr Chetan Shrestha (Items 6.2 & 6.3), Ms Felicity Barry and Rebecca Hawcroft (Item 6.4) – Conservation Section

Agenda Item 1 Opening and Welcome

The meeting commenced at 9.00 am.

The Chair, Mr Stephen Davies gave an Acknowledgment of Country.

Agenda Item 1.1 Apologies, Confirmation and timing of Agenda

Discussion Members noted apologies, and congratulated Mr Stephen Davies on his appointment as

Chair and Dr Raymond Kelly and Dr Mark Dunn (appointed as Deputy Chair) on their re-

appointment as members.

The Chair is liaising with the Minister’s Office in regards to securing the appointment of the

National Trust representative to the Heritage Council.

Mr Bruce Pettman advised that he may need to leave the meeting at 1pm.

Noted The Heritage Council of NSW

Noted the welcome, apologies made and confirmed the agenda.

Agenda Item 3 Reports (Part A)

Agenda Item 3.1 Chair’s report

Discussion The Chair thanked the members for their congratulations on his appointment and then reported to

the members on:

Media resulting from his appointment including radio interviews.

The passing of the husband of Mrs Glenda Chalker - Aboriginal Cultural Heritage Advisory

Committee member who members met during the South West Slopes regional visit in 2014.

National Heritage Strategy released on 8 December 2015 – members requested link to the

strategy be resent.

Robb College, University of New England (UNE) subcommittee update – the Chair invited Dr

Siobhan Lavelle to update the Council on the recent sub-committee meeting with UNE and

EJE Architects (EJE).

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Dr Siobhan Lavelle reminded members that at the December 2015 Heritage Council meeting

fairly wide ranging site specific exemptions which would be linked to a Conservation

Management Plan (CMP) for the site were confirmed, and a subcommittee had been formed.

UNE and EJE provided an overview of the CMP for Robb College to the HC subcommittee on

29 January seeking advice on its development to date.

The subcommittee noted that the current SHR listing form needs to be revised to ensure that

it clearly describes the relationship of place, content and landscape and that the significance

values for this listing relate to form and design and not fabric. This is essential given that the

listing form will accompany the recommendation to the Minister.

Members noted that the proposed exemptions for Robb College are site specific, and directly

related to the values and significance identified for the place and therefore would not

necessarily set a precedent for any future listings although a similar model may be relevant in

some circumstances.

Comments on the CMP would be appreciated from members and it will be made available

electronically.

Members agreed to provide comment on the revised statement of significance and the draft

CMP for Robb College.

Resolution 2016-1. The Heritage Council of NSW:

1. Noted the report and

2. Agreed to provide comment on Robb College, UNE draft CMP and statement of

significance.

Moved by Mr Stephen Davies and seconded by Ms Jennifer Davis.

Action Heritage Division to distribute link for National Heritage Strategy to members.

Heritage Division to distribute Robb College draft CMP and statement of significance.

Agenda Item 1.2 Declarations of Interest

Discussion Members were advised of the following conflicts of interests (which were provide prior to the

meeting):

Mr Stephen Davies

- Item 6.2 - Land and Housing Corporation 36-42 Argyle Place, Millers Point CMP.

- Item 6.3 - Land and Housing Corporation 52, 54 & 60 Argyle Place, Millers Point

CMP.

- Item 6.6 – Land and Housing Corporation Millers Point update (30 Argyle Place).

Dr Mark Dunn

- Item 6.4 – Parramatta Justice Precinct CMP (updated history section).

Ms Josephine Wing

- Item 6.1 - Westconnex M5 – SSI comments and conditions of consent.

- Item 6.9 - Parramatta City Centre LEP 2007 – Amendment.

Dr Deborah Dearing

- Item 6.7 – Lands and Education Buildings, Bridge St Sydney update.

Mr Bruce Pettman

- Item 6.4 - Parramatta Justice Precinct CMP.

Mr Peter Poulet

- Item 6.4 - Parramatta Justice Precinct CMP.

Additional declarations of interest identified and advised during the meeting:

Mr Stephen Davies

- Item 3.7 - Interim Heritage Orders under Authorisation - local councils: Alexandria

Hotel, Sydney.

Mr Peter Poulet


- Item 6.8 – UrbanGrowth NSW update – sits on UrbanGrowth NSW Design

Directorate.

Noted The Heritage Council of NSW noted the declarations.

Agenda Item 2 Confirmation of Minutes

Agenda Item 2.1 Heritage Council of NSW meeting of 2 December 2015

Discussion Members noted no revisions to the draft minutes of the 2 December 2015 Heritage Council

meeting.


1. Accepts the minutes as a true record of the Heritage Council meeting held on 2

December 2015.

Moved by Dr Raymond Kelly and seconded by Ms Josephine Wing.

Agenda Item 2.2 Heritage Council December 2015 Out of Session Decisions

Nil matters determined by the Heritage Council out of session in December 2015.

Agenda Item 2.3 Heritage Council January 2016.Out of Session Decisions

Nil matters determined by the Heritage Council out of session in January 2016.

Agenda Item 3 Reports (Part B)

Agenda Item 3.2 Executive Director’s report

Discussion The Acting Executive Director, Ms Pauline McKenzie presented the prepared report and provided

updates on the following matters:

Heritage Near Me (HNM) program - The Community Values qualitative research by the HNM

team was completed in December 2015 and a draft report of topline findings is being

prepared. The Heritage Policy Team will use this work to inform the Survey of Community

Heritage Values project discussed at the December 2015 meeting. The Heritage Policy

Team will be providing the Council an update on their project at the March 2016 meeting. A

presentation on the Heritage Near Me program and the community values research was

offered.

NSW Heritage Grants – applications are currently being assessed in preparation for

discussion at the March 2016 Heritage Council meeting. Members will be provided the

applications electronically.

ANZAC Memorial Hyde Park Sydney – general terms of approval have been provided for this

project under delegation and the detailed plans are in-line with the presentation received by

the Council at the August 2015 meeting.

Cleveland House, Sydney – s60 application has been conditionally approved under

delegation to include further investigation prior to approval to remove render.

Australian Technology Park (ATP) – Minister recently visited site with local MP in relation to

future management of the moveable collection at this site and other related locations and the

possible formation of a working group to help guide management of the site and collections

located on site under different ownerships. The communities’ long term relationship with the

site and request for a heritage information centre was also noted.

Members

Noted that a presentation be provided on Heritage Near Me program (including the

community values work) and that the report is distributed to them when it is available.


Noted ATP discussions, community interest and previous Heritage Council recommendations

advising that a mechanism should exist to manage the collection long term. Members

advised that proposals for the site should be within the frameworks that have already been

endorsed.

Noted The Heritage Council of NSW noted the report.

Action Circulate Heritage Near Me Community Values qualitative research report to members.

Agenda Item 3.3 Heritage Council Action Report

Discussion Members reviewed the current Heritage Council Meeting Action Report.

Noted that prioritisation of major projects on the action list will be on the February business

planning day agenda.

Dr Deborah Dearing advised that the Roads and Maritime Services proposal for Argyle St,

The Rocks discussed at the December 2015 meeting has been withdrawn pending further

consultation.

Dr Deborah Dearing advised that the strategic project Story of Sydney, Macquarie Street

Precinct, Sydney being managed by Sydney Living Museums (SLM) has already reached the

Strategic Gateway Review stage.

Members agreed that SLM should present the Macquarie Street Precinct to the March 2016

meeting and then present on the remaining strategic projects at the April 2016 meeting.

Noted

/Resolution

The Heritage Council noted the report.

2016-3. The Heritage Council of NSW:

1. Noted the report and

2. Requested presentations from Sydney Living Museums on Strategic Projects as

discussed.

Moved by Dr Mark Dunn and seconded by Ms Jennifer Davis.

Action Heritage Division to arrange SLM to present on Macquarie Street Precinct to the March 2016

meeting and then present on the remaining strategic projects at the April 2016 meeting.

Agenda Item 3.4 Matters Approved Under Delegation – conservation matters

Discussion The Heritage Council advised no questions.

Resolution 2016-4. The Heritage Council of NSW noted the report

Moved by Mr Stephen Davies and seconded by Dr Raymond Kelly.

Agenda Item 3.5 Matters Approved Under Delegation – listing matters

Nil report

Agenda Item 3.6 Matters Approved Under Delegation – grant matters

Nil report

Agenda Item 3.7 Interim heritage orders under authorisation – local councils

Discussion Mr Stephen Davies declared an interest for the Alexandria Hotel, Sydney listed in the report.

The Heritage Council advised no questions.

Resolution 2016-5. The Heritage Council of NSW noted the report.

Moved by Ms Josephine Wing and seconded by Dr Mark Dunn.


Agenda Item 4 Legislative, Policy and Administrative Matters for Consideration & Decision

Agenda Item 4.1 Heritage Council Finance update

Discussion Mr Anthony Dann presented the report:

Provided members an updated 2015-16 Quarter 2, finance report and Half year forecast.

Advised that a surplus was expected for 2015-16 due to variances in both income and

expenditure noting that some previously forecasted expenditure will now occur in 2016-2017.

Income has been affected by lower than expected investment returns.

All outcomes from Auditor Office findings have been achieved.

The 2016-17 budget will be presented next quarter, informed from decisions from the

Business Planning Day.

Higher expenditure expected 2016-17 on grants and the progress of projects currently

delayed.

Members thanked Mr Anthony Dann for the update an advised no questions.


1. Adopts the 2015-16 Quarter 2, finance report provided to the meeting.

2. Adopts the 2015-16 Quarter 2, Half year forecast provided to the meeting.

Moved by Mr Stephen Davies and seconded by Ms Josephine Wing.

Agenda Item 4.2 NSW Heritage Plaque Scheme

Discussion Ms Kylie Seretis presented:

The proposed project plan and consultation strategy for the NSW heritage plaques scheme.

The project has three key elements:

- The installation of a physical plaque on newly (future) listed SHR items.

- Delivery of a celebratory listing event, with a plaque unveiling to publicise the listing.

- Inclusion of a ‘virtual’ plaque to enhance heritage tourism and access to information

about the heritage item via the Heritage Near Me App (under development).

Members:

Agreed that the celebration of listings on the SHR is a high priority and events linked to

unveiling of a plaque and modern ways of engaging with the community should be utilised.

Discussed concerns and potential benefits associated with the proposed heritage plaque

scheme, noting that the planned targeted consultation strategy will provide further information

for consideration on the implementation, and management of the scheme.

Requested research into past plaque efforts and how owners of sites with plaques and the

community feel about them.

Agreed that the design of the plaques would require approval by the Heritage Council and

that the installation of a plaque at a site would require owner’s consent.

Requested the project plan include of further detail on elements of the project and a risk

assessment.

Requested a presentation on the Heritage Near Me community values survey and app at next

meeting.


1. Notes the content of this report;

2. Endorsed the proposed project plan subject to amendments, and inclusion of a risk

assessment for the proposed NSW Heritage Plaques Scheme (Attachment A of the

prepared report);

3. Endorsed in principle funding for a scheme that celebrates and recognises Heritage

in NSW;

4. Endorsed targeted consultation regarding the scheme to assist with making an

informed decision; and


5. Require the design of the plaque to be approved by the Heritage Council.

Moved by Dr Deborah Dearing and seconded by Ms Josephine Wing.

Action Heritage Division to present on the Heritage Near Me community values survey and app at

next meeting.

Agenda Item 5 Listing Matters for Consideration & Decision

Agenda Item 5.1 Recommendation to List – The University of Sydney, University Colleges and Victoria

Park, Camperdown (Sydney LGA)

Discussion Ms Mary Ann Hamilton joined the meeting for this item.

Dr Siobhan Lavelle and Mr Michael Ellis presented on this item advising:

In 2012 the Heritage Council identified the need for Sydney University to be listed on the

SHR during consideration of a State Significant Development (SSD) application that included

a contentious building that encroached into the foreground of St John’s College.

The Statement of Significance looks at the historical structure of the original land grant for

Grose Farm and recognises a long complex history including Aboriginal components.

University of Sydney, Camperdown Campus and University Colleges are set within a park-

like setting associated with the 19th century planned Victoria Park.

The recommended curtilage captures the original University of Sydney and Colleges land

grants over Grose Farm.

The listing recognises the cultural landscape, and the relationship between the buildings and

their settings.

Members discussed the matter noting:

The submissions received in regards to the listing, including objections.

The inclusions and exclusions of the recommended curtilage and its relationship to the whole

precinct.

The separate SHR listing for Royal Prince Alfred Hospital and exclusion from the

recommended curtilage and requested that reference to the Hospital is included in the

Statement of Significance as it was included in the original land grant.

The inclusion of the SHR listed The Women’s College in the recommended curtilage.

That the request from the University of Sydney to be provided agency delegations under the

Heritage Act 1977 to assess applications and changes to the site would need to be

considered separately at a future time.

That the SSD proposal for new buildings in Eastern Avenue which concerned the Heritage

Council has not progressed at this stage and would be within the curtilage.

That later in the meeting the Council is considering the Grounds CMP and that the individual

colleges are preparing individual CMPs for consideration by the Heritage Council.

The site specific exemptions as per annexure C of the prepared report and discussed the

need for the significance ranking map to link to the exemptions and minor amendment to

exemption 4(i) as follows

- 4(i) - External alterations that do not increase the building envelope or change its

character (excluding demolition); and


1. In accordance with section 33(1)(d) of the Heritage Act 1977 advise the Minister that

the item known as “The University of Sydney, University Colleges and Victoria Park”

at City and Parramatta Roads, Camperdown, is of state heritage significance, as

shown in the plan at Annexure B of the prepared report and Annexure A of these

minutes;

2. Recommend to the Minister, in accordance with sections 32(1) and (2) of the

Heritage Act 1977, that the Minister direct the listing of the item, The University of


Sydney, University Colleges and Victoria Park at City and Parramatta Roads,

Camperdown, on the State Heritage Register;

3. In accordance with section 33(1)(e) of the Heritage Act 1977, give notice of its

decision to persons notified under section 33(1)(a); and

4. In accordance with section 57(2) of the Heritage Act 1977, recommend that the

Minister grant the site specific exemptions at Annexure C of the prepared report,

subject to amendment of exemption 4, from section 57(1) of the Act in addition to the

Heritage Council Standard Exemptions.

Moved by Dr Deborah Dearing and seconded by Dr Raymond Kelly.

Agenda Item 6 Conservation Matters for Consideration & Decision

Agenda Item 6.1 Westconnex M5 – SSI comments and conditions of consent

Discussion Ms Josephine Wing participated in this matter as an observer due to declared interest.

Mr Rajeev Maini and Ms Nina Pollock presented on this item advising:

Letter has been prepared in accordance to discussion at December 2015 meeting.

Members:

Reviewed the letter and agreed it reflected the December 2015 discussion.

Advised that the Heritage Council would like to participate in the design development

process.


1. Notes the information in the report and attachments;

2. Considers the Draft response letter (Attachment B of the prepared report);

3. Agrees that the Director, as delegate of the Heritage Council, issue the letter

(Attachment B of the prepared report) to the Department of Planning and

Environment by 5 February 2015.

Moved by Ms Jennifer Davis and seconded by Dr Raymond Kelly.

Agenda Item 6.2 36-42 Argyle Place, Millers Point CMP, Land and Housing Corporation

Discussion Dr Mark Dunn acted as Chair for this item.

Ms Rochelle Johnston, Mr Gary Estcourt and Mr Chetan Shrestha presented advising:

The 38-42 Argyle Place properties are currently on the market and were being auctioned on

25 February 2015. 36 Argyle Place was not on the market yet.

The CMP still requires some amendments including the inclusion of recent photos of

elements and spaces graded as exceptional or high significance to confirm their condition as

they have not been inspected since 2011.

Except for number 36, access to the other properties occurred on 1 February 2016 to take

photos for inclusion in the CMP. At this stage 36 Argyle place was not being accessed and

therefore if recent photos are not available for inclusion in the CMP, number 36 will be

removed from this CMP.

The Heritage Division have been proactive in meeting with the Land and Housing Corporation

(LAHC) and their consultants to discuss the changes identified in the CMP Assessment

Checklist and/or conditional endorsement.

Members:

Discussed the identified outstanding amendments in the report and CMP Assessment

Checklist.


Noted the practice demonstrated in this CMP to identify rooms for possible future kitchens

and additional bathrooms in the CMPs. Requested the Heritage Division to draft text to be

included in CMPs to identify specific rooms for the possible inclusion of a bathroom or kitchen

which will require approval by the relevant consent authorities.

Agreed that there is a need for all CMPs to provide justification based on an assessment of

significance as to the choice of location of possible future kitchens and bathrooms, including

consideration of impact on significant fabric, intervention and reversibility

Agreed that the CMPs are a guide and that the new owners will need to understand that

future possible changes provided in the CMP will still require approval under s60 of the

Heritage Act 1977 and it is essential that this information is reflected in the CMPs.

Request the Heritage Division to advise LAHC of requirement to include justification for

proposed possible future changes in CMPs.

Agreed that if a new owner provides additional information in relation to the condition or

significance of a property that this information can be taken into consideration when

assessing applications.

Noted that s60 applications for the former LAHC Millers Point properties are being assessed

by the Heritage Division and that at this time the City of Sydney are not exercising their

delegations in this area.

Noted that the Heritage Division are currently working with the City of Sydney on having clear

guidelines for assessing development applications and the use of delegations.


1. considers the information in this report; and

2. agrees that the Executive Director, Heritage Division, OEH exercise delegation to

finalise the process of endorsing the following CMP:

a. 36-42 Argyle Place Millers Point (Part of Wentworth Terrace 36-44 Argyle

Place Millers Point) Conservation Management Plan. Version 3.10, 22

January 2016 prepared by Robertson and Hindmarsh Pty Ltd.

Moved by Ms Jennifer Davis and seconded by Ms Josephine Wing.

Action Heritage Division to advise LAHC of requirement to include justification for proposed possible

future changes and text related to location of possible bathrooms in Millers Point CMPs.

Agenda Item 6.3 52, 54 & 60 Argyle Place, Millers Point Conservation Management Plan, Land and

Housing Corporation

Discussion Dr Mark Dunn acted as Chair for this item.

Ms Rochelle Johnston, Mr Gary Estcourt and Mr Chetan Shrestha presented advising:

Some of the 52, 54 & 60 Argyle Place, Millers Point properties are currently on the market

and were being auctioned on 25 February 2016.

The CMP reads very well.

The CMP requires some amendment as outlined in the report and CMP Assessment

Checklist.

Members:

Noted that this CMP which had previously been considered was now quite good but agreed

with comments in the CMP Assessment Checklist for finalisation of the CMP including that

the labelling in the plans needs to correctly indicate the true significance of the various

components of the properties.


1. considers the information in this report; and

2. agrees that the Executive Director, Heritage Division, OEH exercise delegation to

finalise the process of endorsing the following CMP:


a. Conservation Management Plan Nos 52, 54 & 60 Argyle Place, Millers Point,

SHR No. 00902, , Revision E, dated 16 December 2015 prepared by Orwell

& Peter Phillips Pty Ltd..

Moved by Dr Mark Dunn and seconded by Dr Raymond Kelly.

Agenda Item 6.4 Parramatta Justice Precinct CMP for endorsement

Discussion Mr Peter Poulet and Mr Bruce Pettman left the room for this matter due to declared interest.

Mr Rajeev Maini, Ms Felicity Barry and Ms Rebecca Hawcroft presented advising:

The CMP is generally acceptable with some amendment still required as outlined in the

report and CMP Assessment Checklist to address matters including concerns over the

structure of the CMP.

Heritage Division has provided advice on structure of the CMP to ensure the appropriate

amount of history is provided at the beginning of the CMP to assist the user of the document

to understand the site comprehensively.

The CMP proposes the expansion of the curtilage and State Heritage Register (SHR) listed

area of Brislington and Landscape (SHR No. 00059). The request to expand the existing

SHR curtilage is supported in principle by the Heritage Division but at this time there is no

formal nomination. The applicant should be informed that the proposed expansion of the

curtilage would be subject to discussions with the Listing Team and due process under the

Heritage Act.


The challenge of developing consistent and easy to understand CMPs.

The value of the template used to inform Miller’s Point CMPs.

In order to understand significance you need to have sufficient information to understand the

site, however detailed information including history can be included in an annexure.

Amendments to the recommendations 3 and 5 of the prepared report to include a timeframe

of 1 year from endorsement of the CMP to complete the actions to update the s170 register

and prepare an Artefact Management Plan for the site’s archaeological artefacts.

Agree that the expansion of curtilage can be supported in principle, however, it is to be

subject to discussions with the Listing Team and due process under the Heritage Act.


1. Note the assessment in this report and discussion of issues and refers a number of

matters for further consideration by the delegate.

2. Agrees that the Executive Director, Heritage Division, OEH, exercise delegation to

finalise the process of endorsing the CMP for the Parramatta Justice Precinct,

prepared by Government Architects Office, dated December 2015.

Moved by Mr Stephen Davies and seconded by Dr Deborah Dearing.

Agenda Item 6.5 University of Sydney Grounds Conservation Management Plan, The University of Sydney

Discussion Mr Rajeev Maini and Mr Michael Ellis presented this item advising:

The University of Sydney Grounds (Grounds CMP) provides an analysis of why the site is

significant, and policies on how to retain its heritage significance and to identify constraints

related to future development.

This Grounds CMP does not include detailed information about, or assessment of individual

buildings; however Campus Infrastructure Services (CIS), in 2016, intends to instigate a

progressive review and revision of the CMPs for some twenty Camperdown campus buildings

identified as being of Exceptional or High significance in the Grounds CMP, with the objective

of having each CMP endorsed by the Heritage Council.


The Grounds CMP requires some amendment as outlined in the report and CMP

Assessment Checklist including the clarification of application of the CMP post listing on the

State Heritage Register.

The Archaeology section was not included in most recent version submitted and Heritage

Division has requested it be reinstated.

Members, in relation to the Grounds CMP:

Advised that they had expected the document to more clearly reference the landscape and

asked if member Ms Jane Irwin had provided any comment.

Were advised it includes grading of the open spaces and that the landscape consultant, Ms

Christine Hay, a member of The Australian Institute of Landscape Architects (AILA) and

Heritage Division Landscape Heritage Officer, Mr Stuart Read were consulted on the

significance rankings maps.


1. notes the assessment in this report;

2. subject to the amendments discussed being satisfactorily made;

3. supports The University of Sydney Grounds Conservation Management Plan

(revised), prepared by Campus Infrastructure Services, dated January 2016

4. subject to the listing of The University of Sydney, University Colleges and Victoria

Park on the State Heritage Register (SHR) and subject to the recommended

amendments being satisfactorily made, agrees that the Executive Director, Heritage

Division, OEH exercise delegation to endorse of The University of Sydney Grounds

Conservation Management Plan (revised);

Moved by Mr Stephen Davies and seconded by Dr Mark Dunn.

Agenda Item 6.6 Land and Housing Corporation Millers Point update

Discussion Ms Rochelle Johnston presented prepared report and advised:

Team is experiencing scheduling issues to manage workload in response to changing

priorities from Land and Housing Corporation (LAHC).

At a recent meeting LAHC have advised that some archaeology and moveable elements

such as doors etc. that have previously been taken out of the properties being sold in Millers

Point are in storage and they are looking at deaccessioning items.

Heritage Division (HD) requested advice on how these items should be managed advising

that in some cases the original location is unknown for the items.

Members:

Questioned if these moveable items can be reused as part of ongoing renovations of Millers

Point properties.

Requested HD to advise LAHC of the need to identify the building element items in relation to

properties and give the new owners the opportunity to take items for re-instating into Miller’s

Point properties, otherwise the items could be sold.

Advised LAHC to review the inventory of materials in storage to enable a recommendation to

be made.

Noted that at this time a Conservation Management Plan (CMP) for the public domain of

Millers Point had not been received and requested the HD to follow this up with City of

Sydney.


1. Notes the report;

2. Recommends the LAHC to engage suitably qualified professionals to review the

materials in storage and prepare recommendations for the future use and

management of items of moveable heritage;

3. Heritage Division to get an update from the City of Sydney on the public domain CMP

for the next heritage Council meeting.


Moved by Ms Josephine Wing and seconded by Dr Raymond Kelly.

Action Heritage Division to follow up on status of Millers Point Public Domain CMP with City of

Sydney.

Heritage Division to provide the comments from the Heritage Council to LAHC regarding the

management of their moveable heritage stores.

Agenda Item 6.7 Lands and Education Buildings, Bridge St, Sydney update

Discussion Mr Rajeev Maini presented the prepared report and advised:

Since the subcommittee meeting with proponents on 10 December 2015, advice has been

received that the project manager and consultant have been engaged.

The next meeting proposed for the week of 7 March 2016 will include a site visit which all

Council members may wish to attend.

It has been proposed to include a member of the subcommittee on the Design Review Panel

for the project as it will not require approval under the Heritage Act 1977.

Members:

Requested that all members be advised of site visit when arranged.

Agreed to participate in the Design Review Panel recommending Mr Bruce Pettman to

undertake this role due to his extensive knowledge of the sites.

Noted Mr Bruce Pettman will be unavailable for six weeks from the beginning of April 2016.

Resolution The Heritage Council noted the report.

2016-15. The Heritage Council of NSW:

1. Noted the report and the verbal update

2. Support the suggested proposal to include a member of the subcommittee on the

Lands and Education Buildings, Bridge St Design Review Panel and support the

recommendation for Heritage Council observer Mr Bruce Pettman to undertake this

role.

Moved by Mr Stephen Davies and seconded by Ms Josephine Wing.

Action Invite all Heritage Council members to Lands and Education Buildings, Bridge St site visit.

Agenda Item 6.8 UrbanGrowth NSW update

Discussion Observer Mr Peter Poulet advised during this item that he is on the UrbanGrowth NSW Design

Directorate.

Mr Michael Ellis presented the prepared report and advised:

Following the 27 November 2015 meeting of the Parramatta North Urban Transformation

(PNUT) subcommittee, preliminary comments had been provided on the CMP. When the

revised documents are received they will be provided to the subcommittee for review.

The Central to Eveleigh (C2E) subcommittee met with UrbanGrowth NSW on the

9 December 2015.

At the C2E meeting the materials provided to members were marketing focused and did not

contain enough contextual, heritage and urban design information to make comment.

As a result of this meeting, the C2E UrbanGrowth project team have been encouraged to

seek advice from the PNUT project team on how to approach addressing heritage aspects of

the project.

Members:

Noting the update in report on the Bays Urban Transformation Program requested the

Heritage Division to invite UrbanGrowth NSW to present at the March 2016 meeting.


Noted in the report for Item 3.4 Matters approved under delegation – conservation matters

that some exemption applications for Eveleigh Railway Workshops did not proceed.

Were advised that the application received did not fall under exemptions and the applicant

has been requested to submit an s60 application for proposed works.


1. Notes the report; and

2. Requests Heritage Division to invite UrbanGrowth NSW to present at the next

Heritage Council Meeting on the Bays Precinct.

Moved by Dr Raymond Kelly and seconded by Ms Jennifer Davis.

Action Heritage Division to invite UrbanGrowth to present at the next Heritage Council Meeting on

the Bays Precinct.

Agenda Item 6.9 Parramatta City Centre LEP 2007 – Amendment - Planning Proposal - land bound by

O'Connell, George and Marsden Streets and Parramatta River

Discussion Noted that Office of Environment and Heritage (OEH) has a conflict of interest due to the possible

future site of OEH offices is located within area under consideration.

Mr Paul Kennedy attended from Parramatta City Council to answer questions from the Council.

Mr Rajeev Maini presented on this item advising:

A Planning Proposal has been referred to the Heritage Council for comment to amend the

zoning, floor space ratio, building height and site specific provisions at the Parramatta Justice

Precinct (PJP) – land bound by O’Connell, George and Marsden Streets and the Parramatta

River, Parramatta.

The Heritage Division has previously advised the Department of Planning and Environment

(DPE) of potential adverse impact the proposed indicative building envelope would have on

the heritage items on the site and on the views from the Old Government House and Domain

(OGHD).

Under the recently signed Parramatta Conservation Agreement between NSW Government,

Department of the Environment and Parramatta Council, development that meets the current

Local Environment Plan (LEP) does not require Commonwealth approval, however the

proposed changes to the LEP would require Commonwealth approval.


The Commonwealth has indicated that any proposed increase over the approved heights in

the current LEP would not be approved.

The Planning proposal should be backed up by studies on detailed design including in

particular massing and underpinned with a detailed designed proposal.

A Site specific Development Control Plan (DCP) should seek to regulate the massing of the

proposal, address set-backs and links to the Justice Precinct.

The proposal has not gone far enough to demonstrate possible impact including to

archaeological values and demonstrate sufficient rationale for understanding the proposed

changes to the approved current building envelopes.

Further design studies should be undertaken before changes to the height and floor ratios

can be considered.


1. The Heritage Council notes the information submitted with the planning proposal;

2. Currently there is insufficient information and rationale to understand the proposed

changes to the currently approved building envelope;

3. Noted that the proposal will require Commonwealth approval and they have already

expressed concern regards to changes to current building envelopes;


4. An appropriate detailed approach to the site is required before consideration of

changes to floor space ratios and building heights given the highly sensitive nature,

significance and location of the site; and

5. Supports the design excellence provisions of the current LEP and they should be

retained.


Action Heritage Division is to seek additional information about the LEP amendment from the Parramatta

City Council.

Agenda Item 7 General Business

Agenda Item 7.1 Appointment of Approvals Committee Chair and Dr Raymond Kelly to State Heritage

Register Committee

Discussion Mr Stephen Davies has been appointed as Chair, Heritage Council. Members agreed to

appoint Mr Stephen Davies as Chair of the Approvals Committee.

Dr Raymond Kelly has been reappointed to the Heritage Council as a member and was

previously appointed as a member of the SHR Committee. Members agreed to reappoint Dr

Raymond Kelly as a member to the State Heritage Register Committee.


1. Appoints Mr Stephen Davies as Chair, Heritage Councils Approvals Committee in

line with his appointment to the Heritage Council of NSW.

2. Appoints Dr Raymond Kelly as a member to the State Heritage Register Committee

in line with his appointment to the Heritage Council of NSW.

Moved by Ms Josephine Wing and seconded by Dr Mark Dunn.

Agenda Item 7.2 Matters Arising

Discussion Members:

Were reminded that the Heritage Council Business Planning day is to be held in the city on

Wednesday 17 February and asked to advise Ms Kylie Seretis of any matters they would like

addressed on the day.

Were advised that Mr Terry Bailey, Chief Executive, OEH and Mr Ian Hunter, Deputy Chief

Executive, Regional Operations Group and Heritage Division (ROGHD) have expressed an

interest to attend part of the Planning Day to engage with the Heritage Council.

Discussed the request and agreed that it would be beneficial for the OEH Executives to

attend later in the day after the Heritage Council has had an opportunity to identify key goals

and projects, therefore affording the members an opportunity to advise the Executive.

Ms Josephine Wing advised that this would be her last Heritage Council meeting as she was

leaving the Department of Planning and Environment (DPE). It was a privilege to serve and

she enjoyed her time on the council. The Secretary of DPE is making arrangements for a new

representative to join the Council.

Mr Stephen Davies on behalf of the Council, thanked Ms Wing for her contribution.

Heritage Division is working with the Chair on the Jim Kerr Memorial Seminar.

Resolution 2016-19. The Heritage Council of NSW

1. Invites Mr Terry Bailey, Chief Executive, OEH and Mr Ian Hunter, Deputy Chief

Executive, ROGHD to attend the opening or closing of the Planning Day to be held

on the 17 February 2016.



2016-20. The Heritage Council of NSW

1. Noted the updates and

2. Sincerely thanked Ms Josephine Wing for her contribution to the Heritage Council of

NSW through her commitment and sound advice on the Heritage Council and

committees, wishing her well in her future endeavours.


Action Heritage Council members to advise Ms Kylie Seretis of any matters they would like

addressed at the Heritage Council business planning day.

Agenda Item 7.3 Approvals Committee February 2016 Meeting Quorum

Discussion Members were advised that due to apologies and declarations of interest the Approvals

Committee would not be quorate for Item 5.1 State Significant Development Campbell’s

Stores, The Rocks.

Members agreed to appoint Dr Mark Dunn, Deputy Chair to the Approvals Committee for this

matter to be considered at the 3 February 2016 meeting.

Resolution 2016-21. The Heritage Council of NSW

1. Appoints Dr Mark Dunn as member of Heritage Councils Approvals Committee for

the purpose of considering Item 5.1 State Significant Development Campbell’s

Stores, The Rocks at the 3 February 2016 meeting.


CLOSE OF MEETING – 2.25 pm

I confirm that these minutes are an accurate reflection of the Heritage Council of NSW discussion and outcomes.

……………………………….

Mr Stephen Davies

Chair, Heritage Council of NSW

Date: 2 March 2016


Annexure A Agenda item: 5.1

The University of Sydney, University Colleges and Victoria Park, Camperdown Listing Boundary Endorsed

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