lost in translation - part ii (yeo preconvention)

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TITLE Ronan Ribeiro – Co-chair D. 4510 Brazil – Asia & Oceania Ronan Ribeiro – Co-chair D. 4510 Brazil – Asia & Oceania Coordinator Coordinator NGSE District Coordinator NGSE District Coordinator Rotary Youth Exchange - PreConvention Rotary Youth Exchange - PreConvention Sao Paulo - Brazil Sao Paulo - Brazil Non-Western Languages/Best Non-Western Languages/Best Practices Practices

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Page 1: Lost In Translation - Part II (YEO Preconvention)

TITLE Ronan Ribeiro – Co-chair D. 4510 Brazil – Asia & Oceania CoordinatorRonan Ribeiro – Co-chair D. 4510 Brazil – Asia & Oceania Coordinator

NGSE District CoordinatorNGSE District Coordinator

Rotary Youth Exchange - PreConvention Rotary Youth Exchange - PreConvention Sao Paulo - BrazilSao Paulo - Brazil

Non-Western Languages/Best PracticesNon-Western Languages/Best PracticesNon-Western Languages/Best PracticesNon-Western Languages/Best Practices

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ALPHABETS X IDEOGRAMSALPHABETS X IDEOGRAMS

This map shows the countries in the world that use This map shows the countries in the world that use a a Latin alphabets Latin alphabets as the sole official (or as the sole official (or de de

factofacto official) national script in  official) national script in dark greendark green. The . The lighter lighter green green indicates the countries that use Latin as a co-indicates the countries that use Latin as a co-

official script at the national level.official script at the national level.

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My first worries about Non-Western LanguagesMy first worries about Non-Western Languages(brief history of my son)

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Communication is always a perfect key to successful exchange students

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How can you talk with Japanese friends if you do not How can you talk with Japanese friends if you do not know to speak their language?know to speak their language?

Rotary Global Peace Forum - Hiroshima -

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The very good result should be:on the end Students must SPEAK, READ and WRITE

local language.

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I WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU TO PLAY AS ONE EXCHANGE STUDENT ARRIVING TO A

NEW LANGUAGE.

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I WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU WHAT DOES IT MEAN ?

Rotary Four Way Test Rotary Four Way Test

是否一切屬於真實?是否一切屬於真實?

是否各方得到公平?是否各方得到公平?

能否促進親善友誼?能否促進親善友誼?

能否兼顧彼此利益?能否兼顧彼此利益?

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I BELIEVE YOU ALSO CAN UNDERSTAND PORTUGUESE

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Some of My Survey!Some of My Survey!

1- What kind of experience and 1- What kind of experience and preparations do we can have to preparations do we can have to improve the best knowledge during improve the best knowledge during the LTEP program considering the the LTEP program considering the difficulties to read and write?difficulties to read and write?Answer - Answer - I will say that preparing in I will say that preparing in advanced is always help a lot. To advanced is always help a lot. To read and to write might not be so read and to write might not be so important but to speak yes.important but to speak yes.

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Some of My Survey!Some of My Survey!

2- What are you doing to prepare 2- What are you doing to prepare your LTEP students to go to Non-your LTEP students to go to Non-Western languages countries?Western languages countries?Answer - Answer - All our students will take All our students will take intensive language course at least for intensive language course at least for four months.four months.

(??? Is it enough to learn a new (??? Is it enough to learn a new language???)language???)

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Some of My Survey!Some of My Survey!3- How inbounds students from Latin alphabets are 3- How inbounds students from Latin alphabets are learning and improving their new languages, learning and improving their new languages, specially reading and writing?specially reading and writing?Answer -Answer - It’s really depending on the student It’s really depending on the student personal interest. Majority of students can read personal interest. Majority of students can read Mandarin in six months if they really study and Mandarin in six months if they really study and practice since we do provide around 200 hours of practice since we do provide around 200 hours of languages for all our IB. However, quite a lot of languages for all our IB. However, quite a lot of students do not feel that learning Mandarin is students do not feel that learning Mandarin is important so they will pick up at very late stage important so they will pick up at very late stage once they realized others can speak really well.once they realized others can speak really well.

That is exactly what is happening with That is exactly what is happening with Portuguese Portuguese

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Some of My Survey!Some of My Survey!

4- Are students arriving with some 4- Are students arriving with some knowledge in your (Mandarin) knowledge in your (Mandarin) language? Is it useful?language? Is it useful?Answer - Answer - It is definitely useful. If they It is definitely useful. If they come with no knowledge at all, it’s come with no knowledge at all, it’s really hard for them. really hard for them.

(!!! It is the unique way to learn a (!!! It is the unique way to learn a new language!!!)new language!!!)

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Some of My Survey!Some of My Survey!5- How long your students are studying the new 5- How long your students are studying the new language that they are going to speak during language that they are going to speak during their LTEP? their LTEP? Answer - Answer - At least they will prepare the language At least they will prepare the language for 4 months, however, since majority of our for 4 months, however, since majority of our students still have to pay lot of attention on the students still have to pay lot of attention on the school exams, they normally will arrive with school exams, they normally will arrive with basic communication skills but not really a lot basic communication skills but not really a lot due to the timedue to the time (!!! It is the problem! Students where they have (!!! It is the problem! Students where they have

heavy duties at school before exchange not heavy duties at school before exchange not have any time to learn previously a new have any time to learn previously a new

language!!!)language!!!)

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Some of My Survey!Some of My Survey!6- How long Non-Westerns countries are developing 6- How long Non-Westerns countries are developing alphabets languages, beside their own ideograms?alphabets languages, beside their own ideograms?Answer - Answer - No matter who are from non-westerns speak No matter who are from non-westerns speak English well or not, we need to learn Portuguese from the English well or not, we need to learn Portuguese from the beginning. Maybe some people will say English is a little beginning. Maybe some people will say English is a little similar to Portuguese, so it won’t be so hard for who similar to Portuguese, so it won’t be so hard for who already knew English. But that is not true. So it doesn’t already knew English. But that is not true. So it doesn’t matter if we speak English or not. We still have to learn matter if we speak English or not. We still have to learn Portuguese, and it’s hard for us because our languages Portuguese, and it’s hard for us because our languages are totally different, not as Americans and Europeans are totally different, not as Americans and Europeans can learn faster because their languages are more similar can learn faster because their languages are more similar than us. And the pronunciation of Portuguese is hard for than us. And the pronunciation of Portuguese is hard for us to pronounce too. us to pronounce too. (!!! This is one very good student from Taiwan she (!!! This is one very good student from Taiwan she

is speaking now a very good Portuguese!!!)is speaking now a very good Portuguese!!!)

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New worry !!!New worry !!!

As District Chairs of Districts that US District 5230 normally As District Chairs of Districts that US District 5230 normally exchange students, I have been asked to share information exchange students, I have been asked to share information with you.  As most of you are aware, the United States with you.  As most of you are aware, the United States Department of State is aggressively enforcing the regulation Department of State is aggressively enforcing the regulation requiring exchange students coming to the United States requiring exchange students coming to the United States must be able to validate their English proficiency.must be able to validate their English proficiency. Council Council on Standards for International Educational Travel (CSIET) is on Standards for International Educational Travel (CSIET) is requesting you take the 10-question survey.  We would requesting you take the 10-question survey.  We would appreciate very much if you would take a minute or two to appreciate very much if you would take a minute or two to complete this survey.complete this survey.Thank you on behalf of District 5230 - California.Thank you on behalf of District 5230 - California.  

Junso OgawaJunso OgawaYouth Exchange OfficerYouth Exchange Officer

District 5230 ChairDistrict 5230 Chair

NoteNote: : Local language is important !Local language is important !

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NoteNote: : Students Students

must have must have ATTITUDE!ATTITUDE!

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LET’S HAVE A TEST!Get a paper and a pen. Now if you write with a right

hand copy this with you other hand, also you who write with left hand use other hand to write. (Dennis

White)

This is exactly how students areThis is exactly how students are feeling to learn a new language,feeling to learn a new language, everyone needs time to be bettereveryone needs time to be better..

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BEST PRACTICES !

• Students are Students are always differents always differents each each other, and each mother language has its other, and each mother language has its different time to learn a new language. different time to learn a new language. We have We have respect to encourage respect to encourage them !!!them !!!

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BEST PRACTICES !

• Start your district candidates selection Start your district candidates selection very earlyvery early;;

Our district has done the selection since Our district has done the selection since last April and all our students already last April and all our students already

know where they are going to exchange know where they are going to exchange in in August 2016August 2016..

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BEST PRACTICES !

• Keep Keep good partners to exchangegood partners to exchange, which , which you have commitments and you have commitments and agreements to host your students to agreements to host your students to permit you a good selection and permit you a good selection and long long time to learn time to learn the culture and language the culture and language previously;previously;

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BEST PRACTICES !

• Prepare students to travel Prepare students to travel encouraging themencouraging them and and their parents their parents to work together on to work together on language and language and best behaviourbest behaviour..

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Muito obrigado!Muito obrigado!Thanks a lot!Thanks a lot!