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    Wed, 2007-01-1 0 05:43

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    Level 3, 4 & 5 planning.

    To all planners,

    Being a rookie in the business, could anyone please educate me on the distinct differences

    between level 3, 4 & 5 planning. My belief is that level 3 is planning at a WBS level. Planning

    with activities below this - 5-10 approx. will be level 4 and level 5 is very detailed planning.

    Could anyone please point me in the right direction on this one, please?

    Cheers

    Neil

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    have a look at this

    http://www.planningengineers.org/publications/papers.aspx

    Personally

    I always hammock down or up to get my levels

    that way you dont have different programmes its all on the same page dead easy for progres

    monitoring and as builts.

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    yes. i also find this classification of L1, L2.. L5 schedule very vague. the most "defined"

    classifaction i hv come across was this;

    L1: (Owners) Development Programme (probably each project/subproj represented by 1 barL2: L1 + Design/Procurement + Construction detail to major discipline

    L3: (Contractors) Construction Programme = L2 + Construction detail to floor/area/zone, an

    trade/system

    L4: (Contractors) Monthly Programme = Extract of L3 for 3 months (1 + 2 months

    Lookahead), detail to weekly work plan for current month.

    L5: (Contractors) Weekly Programme = Extract of L4 for the month, detail to daily site work

    plan for current week.

    I find this classification suitably definitive, the only thing i m not sure is... as a contractor

    preparing L3...must we incorporate the the monthly details of L4 and weekly details of L5 into the L3?

    Any ideas guys?

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    Guys,

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    L1 = Overall Project Master Programme

    L2 = Summary Programme

    a. design

    b. production or construction

    c. procurement

    L3 = Detail Progamme

    a. design

    b. production or construction

    c. procurement

    L4 = Specific/Constraints Term

    L5 = Subcontractors own Detailed Programme

    Mabuhay!!!

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    Hi Neil,

    Each WBS "level" is an increase in the amount of detail which an activity is sub-divided or

    grouped (if that makes any sense). A "level" is based on a WBS chart, where any group

    summary name that resides on the same row is also on the same "level". Each subsequent

    row of names equates to a new "level". Example:

    L1 = CAR

    L2 = Mechanical Electrical

    L3 = ENGINE,BODY ECU, INSTRUMENTS

    L4 = Further subdivisions of each component.

    The number of "levels" that you have is wholly dependent upon how how many groupings an

    sub-groupings you wish to include by the time you reach the individual deliverable. However,

    you can execute a project and plan a project at any desired level. But the higher the level

    (3,4,5 ish), the less detail and definition is contained within the activity description. As a roug

    guide, you are correct in that, down to level 4/5, the activities may be poorly defined. Level 1

    is probably excessively detailed.

    HTH

    James.

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    If you have a look here, for an article by Gary France entitled "Standards for the Levels of a

    Programme or Schedule" it may help you.

    http://www.planningengineers.org/publications/papers.aspx

    Cheers

    Nige

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