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John Malone and His Cable/Media Empire I’ve been meaning to write about Malones empire to solidify my thoughts and notes into a single post. Another reason is because LMCA/K and LBRDA/K are somewhat material investments for me so it helps to review the reasons why I like them so much. This also gives me an excuse to look at other parts of his companies a bit more better than previously and create a “reference post” where I can come back later to check and add things. That being said, this post is a bit long and messy. I probably should have split it up, but I wanted to try how it gets received this way. Also, sorry for not doing the tl;dr’s this time. Take into consideration that with all the NAV calculations, spreadsheets, there’s bound to be some mistakes. (if you spot any please leave a comment). Another outsider John Malone is one of the outsiders from The Outsiders book, similarly to Teledynes Henry Singleton. He became the CEO of TeleCommunications Inc, or TCI, which returned incredible 30.3% CAGR over period of 25 years until it was sold to AT&T at a nice premium in 1999. His performance was the best of the CEOs featured in the book. When Malone started as CEO of TCI, the company was on the verge of

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    JohnMaloneandHisCable/MediaEmpireIvebeenmeaningtowriteaboutMalonesempiretosolidifymythoughtsandnotesintoasinglepost.AnotherreasonisbecauseLMCA/KandLBRDA/KaresomewhatmaterialinvestmentsformesoithelpstoreviewthereasonswhyIlikethemsomuch.

    ThisalsogivesmeanexcusetolookatotherpartsofhiscompaniesabitmorebetterthanpreviouslyandcreateareferencepostwhereIcancomebacklatertocheckandaddthings.

    Thatbeingsaid,thispostisabitlongandmessy.Iprobablyshouldhavesplititup,butIwantedtotryhowitgetsreceivedthisway.Also,sorryfornotdoingthetldrsthistime.

    TakeintoconsiderationthatwithalltheNAVcalculations,spreadsheets,theresboundtobesomemistakes.(ifyouspotanypleaseleaveacomment).

    AnotheroutsiderJohnMaloneisoneoftheoutsidersfromTheOutsidersbook,similarlytoTeledynesHenrySingleton.

    HebecametheCEOofTeleCommunicationsInc,orTCI,whichreturnedincredible30.3%CAGRoverperiodof25yearsuntilitwassoldtoAT&Tatanicepremiumin1999.HisperformancewasthebestoftheCEOsfeaturedinthebook.

    WhenMalonestartedasCEOofTCI,thecompanywasonthevergeof

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    bankruptduetoexcessdebt.Ultimatelyhedidmanagetosurvivebypinchingthepenniesforyearsanditwaspresumablyduringthattimethathelearnedalotaboutusingleverage.

    Malonesstrategyconsistedoffewkeyelements:

    1. Decentralized,lowcostoperations.Hecreatedastrongculturewithamixofincentivesandautonomy.

    2. Smartcapitalallocation,accretivebuybacksatlowpriceandissuingequityforacquisitionsathighprice.Horizontalandlaterverticalintegrationatgoodpriceswereattheheartofhisstrategy.

    3. Financialengineering,mostlyvialeverage4. Taxefficiency>emphasisoncashflowsandgrowth.TCIalmost

    neversoldanassetunlesstherewasataxangletoit.

    SimilarlytoSingleton,withcapitalallocationdecisionshedidwhatwassmart,notwhatwasexpected:

    Itmakessensetomaybeselloffsomeofoursystemsat10timescashflowtobuybackourstockat7times

    TCIgrewmostlybyrollingupthefragmentedcableindustry,butinsteadofbuyingeverythingtheycan,Malonewasveryprudentaboutthepricethathepaid.(usually5xcashflowsaftersynergies)

    InthelatterpartofTCIshistory,hestartedtobuystakesincontentcompaniestogetcontroloftheprogrammingandcontentthatthecableoperatorscarriedontheirsystems.Maloneacquiredaround30differentcompaniesfromcontentsideinthe80s(CNN,Starzetc.)

    Finallyin1998hesoldTCItoAT&Tat40%premium.Soonafterthathewatched$3.5bnofhisownnetworthtodeclinerapidlybecauseAT&Tmanagementdestroyedvalueincrediblyquicklybyoverpayingforacquisitionsandmismanagingtheirassets.

    Malonewasntabletodoanythinghecouldntevensellhisstockbecauseof

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    restrictions.Thisismostlikelywhyhestartedtovaluecontrolsomuch.

    UltimatelyhemanagedtospinLibertyassetsoutofAT&TandthatsbasicallyhowhiscurrentLibertyempirecametoexist.GreenblatthadtherightsofferingasanexampleinhisfamousbookYouTooCanBeaStockMarketGenius:

    Therightsoffering/spinoffwasstructuredsothatitwasverycomplicatedandthattherewouldbemassiveupsidetothosewhoparticipated.Thegeniuspartwasthatitsimultaneouslydiscouragedmostinvestorstotakepartinit.Anyonecouldhavepurchasedandexercisedthoserightssotherewasalotofmoneytobemadeforthosewhodidtheirdiligence.

    Theprospectusofthedealwasalmost400pageslong,soitgivesyousomeideaofthecomplexityofit.EvenBobMagness,thefounderandmajorshareholderofTCIdidntunderstanditverywell.

    Ibelievethisrightsofferingistheonethingthatsgrindingsomepeoplesgears

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    aboutMalonesintegrity:thedealwasclearlystructuredsothatpeoplewouldbediscouragedtoparticipateiniteventhougheveryonehadtheequalopportunityto.

    IbelievethatfromMalonesperspectivetheimportantpartisthechoice.IpersonallytaketheviewthatifMalonewouldwanttoenrichhimselfatthecostofshareholders,hecoulddothat.

    Afterfollowingwhathesdoneovertheyearsandhowmanypeoplehehasmadewealthierthroughhiscapitalallocationskills,IminclinedtothinkthathesfairtoshareholdersofLibertyentities.

    Idounderstandhispointofviewtooandwhyhewantedtofinallygetpaid:heleadTCIfor25yearsandhadasmallpositioninthecompanydespitemakingotherpeople(likeBobMagness)verywealthy.

    ThesectioninGreenblattsbookiswellworthreadandthiswasjustapartofitinrealityitwasabitmorecomplex.IalsohighlyrecommendthebookCableCowboywhichtellshisstoryandthehistoryofthemoderncablebusinesses.

    Maloneonleverage(andwhyhelovesit)Ilikeleverage.Ithinkleverageisyourfriendifyouareprudent

    aboutit.Particularlyifthegovernmentmakesittaxdeductible.

    Thesenotesaremostlyfromthe2012Maverickslecture(Highlyrecommendedwatch):

    Cablehasbeenhistoricallybeenabletosupport5xEBITDAleverage,butitdependsoninterestratesIftheyarentfindingacquisitionsandyourcashflowgoesup,theytakeleverageupandshrinkequitywithbuybacksWithhighleverageyoumusthavesomeliquidity,like0.5xEBITDAtoavoidliquidityproblemVariouscompaniesusedifferentleverageprofiles,acompanywithaflywheel,astableutilitylikenature(suchascable)willcarrymore

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    leverageForMalonehedginginterestratesisareligionandtheyvealwaysswappedtofixedTheyarealwaysrollingmaturities,movingthembackandloweringratesifpossibleHedginginterestratesandrollingthematuritiesmakesitsothattheyhavevisibilitywiththeirdebtandinterestsTheydontusuallyspeculatebyissuingdebtwithoutuseofproceeds

    Iusedtosayinthecableindustrythatifyourinterestratewaslowerthanyourgrowthrate,yourpresentvalueisinfinite.Thatswhythecableindustrycreatedsomanyrichguys.Itwasthecombinationoftaxshelteredcashflowgrowththatwas,ineffect,growingfasterthantheinterestrateunderwhichyoucouldborrowmoney.Ifyoudoanyarithmeticatall,thepresentvaluecalculationtendstowardinfinityunderthatthesis.

    LeverageisintrinsicpartofthebusinessesthatMaloneowns,soIwantedtoclarifymyownthoughtsandseehowitwilllooktheoreticallyonamadeupcablecompanysfinancials:

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    With5%growthforEBITDAof1000,keepingthe4Xleveragemultiple(standardforMalonescablecompanies)and6%interestrate,theycaninvestorbuybackshares4xtheamountthatEBITDAincreasedfortheyearinissueddebtalongwithwhatevertheyllhaveleftafterpayingforinterest,capexandtaxes.

    Ihavetoemphasizethatthisonlymakessensewhenyouhavegreatoperationalskills,utilitylikeproductsandgrowingcashflows.Alotofbusinesseshavegonebankruptbecauseoftoohighleverageandtoolowunderstandingoftheriskssoitdoesmakesensetobecareful.

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    MalonescableplaybookItsnotaboutearnings,itsaboutwealthcreationandleveredcash

    flowgrowth.

    SincehemanagedtospinLibertyoutofAT&T,hehasbeenbusyrollingupEuropes(andmorerecentlyUSandLatinAmericas)cableassets.Herearemyinterpretationsofhisplaybookandhowhemanagestobuyandoperatethesecompaniesbetterthanotherpeople:

    Firstofall,hedoesrigorousduediligence:Heknowstheindustryprobablybetterthananyoneandthusitshighlyunlikelythathedoesbaddeals.Mostofthetimefromtheoutsideitsnotalwaysclearhowthedealhemakesisgood,butonceyouknowsomeoftheplaybookitsabiteasiertofigureout(Theresprobablymore,butIthinkthesearethemostimportantones):

    Operationalimprovements,Maloneknowstheinandoutsofthecablebusinessandthushecanputhisownpeopletorunthebusinessesbetterthanthepreviousmanagement.Thisusuallymeansenhancingproductofferings,newproducts,etc.SynergiesProgrammingcostsareahugeone,operationalsynergies(forexample,theycanusescaletogetcheapersettopsfromsuppliers),financialsynergies(sometimesiftheacquiredcompanyhasverylowdebt,thetransactionisdeveleringforMalonescompany),economiesofscaleOptimizingthebalancesheet.MostofthetimethismeansthatMalonetakestheleverageoftheacquiredcompanyup.Thisispossible(andlessrisky)mostlybecausehisCEOscanoperatethecompanyalotbetter,achievehighergrowthandhighercashflows.Hecanprioritizethelongtermview.Somecompanies(liketelcos)paydividendsanddontinvestmuch.WithCharter,ithasntgeneratedmuchFCFbecauseRutledgehasalongtermviewofthebusinessandhesinvestingheavilyinit.Maloneenablesthiswith

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    strongcontrol.

    WhenLibertyGlobal/Charterbuysacompany,theyarealwaystryingtouseasmuchdebtaspossible.Someamountofequitywillsometimesbefineespeciallyifthevaluationishigherthanthecompanytobeboughtinthatcasethetransactionwillbeaccretive.

    ShareclassexplanationsMalonescompaniesalmostalwayshaveshareclassstructurethatgoesasfollows:

    1. SeriesAsharesarenormalvotingshareswith1vote/share(LMCA,DISCA,LBRDAetc.)

    2. SeriesBsharesaresupervotingshareswith10votes/share,Maloneusuallyownsmostofthese(LMCB,DISCB,LBRDBetc.)

    3. SeriesCsharesarenonvotingshares.Theseareoftenusedascurrencysothatvotingsharesdontgetdiluted.(LMCK,DISCK,LBRDKetc.)

    Allshareclassesareentitledtosameamountofeconomicincome.Ifyouarebuyingsomeofhisstocks,youshouldbuytheonethatscheapestusuallyseriesCshares,butsometimestheseriesAsharestradebelowCsharesmomentarily.(likeLBRDAvsLBRDKrecently)

    TrackingstocksIregardthemaslargelytransitory.Ifyouareincubatinga

    company,butitsnotreadytostandonitsown,trackingstockisagreatwaytoidentifyit,focusalightonit,raisecapitalforiteven,butnotseparateitandmakeitstandonitown..yet

    SomeofthestocksinMalone/Libertycomplexaretrackingstocks:

    1. LibertyGlobalgroup>LibertyGlobal(LBTYA/LBTYB/LBTYK)

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    andLibertyGlobalLatinAmerica(LILA/LILAK)2. LibertyInteractive>QVC(QVCA/QVCB)andLibertyVentures

    (LVNTA/LVNTB)

    Trackingstocktrackstheeconomicperformanceofasubsidiaryofacompany.

    Forexample,LibertyGlobalrecentlycreatedatrackingstocksfortheirLatinAmericaoperations(LILA/LILAK).Thiswayinvestorscaninvestineither(EuropeorLatinAmerica)operations,butbothcompanieswillbenefitfromtheconsolidatedbalancesheet(scaleadvantages).

    Trackingstocksprovidefollowingbenefitswhencomparedtospinoffs:

    Taxsynergiesiftherestwocompaniesunderoneumbrellaandotheronesprofitableandotheronesnotbecauseitsgrowingfast,theycansheltereachotherstaxes.Operationalsynergiesbecausebothcompaniescanberunbyonesetofemployees.ScaleadvantagessavemoneywithprogrammingcostsandsuppliercostsFinancialsynergies/consolidatedbalancesheetforexampletheycangetcheaperdebtProtectionfromantitrustlaws

    Thisapproachisunconventionalandmightbeproblematicunlessyouhavestrongcontrollingowner.Malonehassaidthattrackingstockshaveworkedforthembutnotforothersmostlybecausehecontrolsthecompanies:

    Iftheresonlyonebananasplitandtherestwokids,howdoyoudecidewhogetsthebananasplit?Well,yougottohaveastrongparent

    SpinoffsInadditiontotrackingstocks,Malonelikestodospinoffswhenitmakes

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    sense.Hedoesthisforafewreasons:

    TounlockvalueIfheplanstosellormoreusuallyswaptheasset,hespinsitoffTheycanusetheclassCsharesascurrencytoacquiresomethingelseforexampleLibertyBroadbandwasspinnedtoholdCHTRstakeandLBRDKendedtobeusedascurrencyintheCHTR/TWCdeal+ReasonsIforget

    Inadditiontoallthese,itcreatesalotmoreopportunitiesthroughoptionality.ConsiderforexampletheDiscoveryspinoff:iftheyhadntdonethat(andifMalonehadntgivenupcontrolthere),futureM&AwithCharterwouldprobablyhadhitmoreroadblocksbecauseofverticalintegration.(OrthisishowIthinkitcouldhaveaffectedit)

    GlennChancreatedthisamazingdiagramofthespinoffsandtrackingstockssinceTCIdays(hekindlyletmeuseithere):

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    Asyoucansee,hehasbeenbusy.

    Maloneownerships

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    UnfortunatelyIcouldntfindthesourceforthisimage(forcredits/permission),butitssoawesomethatIcouldnthelpbuttopostit.

    Whatsamazingisthatall/mostofthesecompanieswerespinnedofffromtheoriginalLibertycompanythathegotoutwithfromAT&T.

    Herestherecap:

    1.LibertyMediaCorp(LMCA,LMCB,LMCK),votingpower47.1%,economicvalue9.2%,Chairman

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    2.LibertyBroadband(LBRDA,LBRDB,LBRDK),votingpower47.1%,economicvalue9.2%(BeforeCTHR/TWCdeal),Chairman

    3.LibertyGlobalGroupbelowincludestrackingstocksLibertyGlobalandLibertyGlobalLatinAmericaandCaribbean,Chairman

    LibertyGlobal(LBTYA,LBTYB,LBTYK),votingpower25%,economicvalue2.7%LibertyGlobalLatinAmericaandCaribbean(LiLAC)(LILA/LILAB/LILAK),~sameasinLibertyGlobal

    4.LibertyInteractivebelowincludestrackingstocksQVCandLibertyVentures,Chairman

    QVCGroup(QVCA/QVCB),votingpower37%,economicvalue6%LibertyVentures(LVNTA/LVNTB),votingpower33%,economicvalue6%

    5.LibertyTripadvisorHoldings(LTRPA/LTRPB),votingpower4%,economicvalue6%

    6.Starz(STRZA/STRZB),votingpower33%,economicvalue6%

    7.Discovery(DISCA/DISCB/DISCK),votingpower29%,economicvalue5%

    8.AscentCapital(ASCMA/ASCMB),votingpower16%,economicvalue4%

    9.Lionsgate(LGF),3%stake

    InsidertradesSoifyoulookatMalonesinsidertradingyouseehimsellingsmallpiecesofhisholdingsalmostallthetime.Checkthetradesfromopeninsider.comNoticethattheresabugthatshowsthathessellingAshareswheninrealityhessellingnonvotingCshares.

    Ipersonallywouldntlooktoomuchintohissmall,$15msells.

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    Forexample,hisLibertyMediastakeisworthsomethinglike$1.21.3billion,soifhesellslike$5mworth,thatsaslittleas0.4%ofhisholdings.Becausehiscompaniesdontpaydividends,sellingistheonlywaytogetcashoutofthemsoitmakessense.

    Ithinkthatsfair.Themansalready74yearsold,sowhynotbuysomethingnicewhileyoustillcan?Ofcourseifhedsellabigstakeinacompany,thatwouldwarrantforcloserexamination.(Heusuallytriestoswapthemtoavoidpayingtaxes,though)

    Ifhebuyssomething(whichIthinkissomewhatunlikelywithoutbigdistressinprices),thatssomethingdefinitelyworthlookinginto.LasttimeheboughtwasLMCAinJune2013$2mworth.Lastbiggerbuyshedidwasin2012.

    LibertyMediaCorporation(LMCA/LMCB/LMCK)Since2006,includingallthespinoffs,LMChascompoundedatroughly30%CAGR.AlotofthisisbecauseoftheirincrediblyprofitableinvestmentinSiriusXM,whichhassofarbeena20+baggerin5yearsorso.

    LibertyMediaisbasicallyahighlyconcentratedfundwhereyoullgettoinvestalongsidearguablythebestcable/mediainvestoroperatorever.Youcouldofcoursebuywhathebuysandmostlikelycomeoffwell,butyoudbemissingouton,forexampleaccretivebuybacks,possiblefuturedealsattheLMCandtheVivendisettlement(moreonthatbelow).

    LMCAownsover50%ofSIRIandconsolidatestheiroperationsintheirbalancesheets.Inadditiontothat,SIRIstrueprofitabilityisstillmaskedasithashighfreecashflowbutrelativelylowearnings.Thismakesthecompanylookrichlyvaluedwhentherealitymightbesomethingelseentirely.

    AtthetimeofwritingLibertyMediaconsistsoffollowingassets(figuresfromQ1/2015):

    SiriusXM(SIRI)57.8%ownershipLiveNationEntertainment(LYV)~27%ownership

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    100%ofAtlantaBraves,Forbesthinkstheyareworthover$1bn,buttakeitforwhatitsworth.LMCboughtthemfor$400msoImfairlysuretheyareworthatleastthatmuch.+Smallstakesinvariousthings,seethefullassetlisthereInaddition,LibertyMediashouldbegettingaround~$1bnfromtheirlawsuitagainstVivendi.Vivendihasappealedsoitstakingmoretime,eventhoughthelegalbattlehasalreadylastedoveradecade.Latestnewsisthattheyexpecttogetthecashsometimenextyear.

    SiriusXMGoinglongLMCmeansgoinglongSIRI,soitswisetohavesomeideahowitis.BecauseIdontwanttomakethispostmoremassivethanitalreadyis,ImgoingtocoverwhatIthinkarethemostimportantpointsaboutSIRI:

    1. Marketcapat$3.73/shareis~$20.5bnmarketcap2. Targeting4xEBITDAleverage(Malonehassaiditsgrowingsofast

    itshardtokeepappropriatelylevered)3. TheyarebuyingbackmassiveamountsofshareswithFCF+debt4. FreecashflowforQ1/2015was$276m,up24%.Whatsmore

    amazingisthatpershareFCFwasup36%.IbelieveFCFestimatefor2015is$1.25bnwhichwouldput2015FCFyieldto6%

    Longstoryshort,ifSIRIcankeepgrowingatsimilarrates,itsundervalued.

    FewreasonswhyMalonelikesit:

    Ithasscalableplatformduetofixedcosts.WitheachincrementalsubscribertheirmarginsgrowandFCFgrowsfasterthantopline.Subscribermodelbringsstabilityandenablesuseofhigherleverage,enhancingreturnsGoodgrowthprospects:Usedcarmarket,goodrelationshipswithOEMs(seeforexampleNissanconnectrollingouton2016)Thebestoperatingmodelintheindustry,drivenbyexclusivecontent

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    Unique,monopolylikesatelliteandspectrumassetsandthusthemodelishard/impossibleforcompetitorstoreplicate.ItssomucheasierforSiriustoreplicatethecompetitorsmodelsthanviceversa.ArtistsandcontentproducerswanttogetpaidandSiriusmakesthatpossiblebyactuallymakingsufficientamountofmoneytopaythem.OEMrelationshipsIfIremembercorrectly,SIRIisinstalledin70%ofnewcars.

    ThoughtsonrisksIthinkstreamingservicesofferingfreestreaming(Spotify,Pandora)wouldhavetodosomethingdifferenttodisruptSiriusXMsoIdontseethoseasthreats.Theyalsocantproduce(asmuch)exclusivecontentbecauseoftheinferiorityoftheiroperatingmodel.

    IneverwanttounderestimateApplesoIthinktheymightbeabletoleveragetheirexistingecosystemtocreateameaningfulcompetitor(Applemusic),especiallyiftheycangetgoodexclusivecontent.IthinkthisiscurrentlythebiggestthreattoSIRI,butwellsee.IbelieveSiriushasaclearleadhereanditsgoingtobetoughforAppletodisruptthem.

    TheproblemwithApplemusicmostlyisthatasfarasIunderstand,itsnotadirectcompetitortoSiriusincarrealestate..notyetatleast.Ibelieveyoucantstreammusicasefficientlyviainternetduetowireless/cellularlimitations?Thismightchangeinthefuturethoughonce/ifwirelessinfrastructuregrows.

    ThebiggestthreattoSIRIwouldbeaservicethathassimilareaseofuseandexclusivecontentwheretheserviceprovidercanpaythecontentproducersaswellasSIRIdoes.Infact,theydhavetodosomethingconsiderablybetterbecauseSiriusisalreadysodeeplyingrainedtotheirtargetmarket.

    LawsuitsThereareongoinglawsuitsoversomepre1972songsthattheyveplayed.IdontknowwhethertheycanbemateriallastthatIheardtheycouldpaysomethinglike$200m,whichwouldntbetoobad.Ofcoursethisdoesnt

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    meanthatthepossiblesettlementwontbehigher,butthisisoneofthosethingsthatshouldbeconsideredwheninvestinginthis.

    Another,morerecentarticleonthis.

    SIRItaxfreedividendstoLMC?SIRIisbuyingstockbacksuperaggressively,wecanestimatethatitwouldtake23yearsforSIRI(debtassisted)buybackstopushLMCownershipabove80%.

    Afterowning80%ofSIRI,dividendswillbetaxfreeanditwouldgiveMaffei/Malonecombodirectaccesstocash.IftheNAVdiscountpersiststheyllprobablyjustbuybacksstockwhichwouldbemoreefficientthanSIRIbuyingitsstock.

    OnepartthatIlikemoreaboutLMCincontrasttoowningtheirholdingsstraightisthatyouvegotthesmartestpeopleonthebusinessoverseeingwhatyouown.IvelistenedandreadabouttheseguyssothatIknowthattheylldotherightthingandIdontnecessarilyhavetowonderwhetherIshouldsellornot.

    ResourcesforSIRIPunchcardsblogpostonSiriusXMSIRIcalltranscriptsonSeekingalphaTherewasrecentlyaSApostonSiriusXMCanada,whichisworthlookinginto

    LiveNationEntertainment(LYV)LiveNationEntertainmentisthebiggestplayerinlivemusicindustry.Itlikelyhasawidemoatbecauseoftheflywheelfromcontrollingeveryaspectoftheprocess:theysellthetickets,bookthevenues,paytheartists,collecttherevenuesfromadvertisingandareintheprocessofmonetizingtheliveconcertsviapartnerships.

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    Ibelievetheydonthaveanymeaningfulcompetitors,sotheykeepongrowinganditshardifnotimpossibletobuildscale(costeffectively)becausetheindustryissostronglycontrolledbyLYV.

    LYVisgrowingitsownersearningsatnicerate.ItwillbenicetoseewhatLMCplanstodowiththeirstake:forexampletherewillprobablybesomesynergiesbetweenSIRIandLYV.MalonehasreportedlybeenintalkswithVivendiwithUniversalinmindsotheyaretryingtofindpiecestocomplementtheirexistingmusiccenteredecosystem.

    Forfurtherinformation+valuation,IreferyoutoLiveNationEntertainmentAnUnregulatedMonopoly?

    OtherresourcesVICwriteupsfrom2011and2013

    VivendilawsuitLibertytooksomestockaspaymentfromVivendiforsomeassetsinearly2000s,butVivendifailedtodisclosethattheywereinthemidstofaliquiditycrisis.

    AtthetrialVivendisdefencewasthatLibertywastoostupidtodoadequatejobofdiligencesotheydeservedtogetdefrauded.

    Whoknows..Itmightwork!MaloneonVivendisdefence

    ThelatestnewsonthiswasheardintheQ4/2014quartercall:

    SohopefullywewillhavethisresolvedprobablybyearlynextyearatleastinfrontoftheSecondCircuit.

    SoifIunderstoodcorrectly,wecouldexpectforcashsometime(early?)next

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    year.

    RoughsumofpartsImtotallynotgoingtogothrougheverylittlepiecewhattheyownsoImgoingtousefiguresprovidedbythispresentation.ThefiguresaredatedatApril1stsotheyarefairlyrecent:

    HeresmyquickspreadsheetwhereIusetheirpublicassetsvalue(April1st),tookVivendijudgementintoaccountandupdatedSIRIsvalue:

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    BythetimeImeditingthis(andbythetimeyouarereadingthis),thisisunfortunatelyalreadyoldnews.Itdoeshowevergivesomesensehowitlooks.

    Soincluding$1bnVivendijudgement,theroughNAVdiscountduringthattimewas>20%.

    TakeintoconsiderationthatwithLMCtheresacorporatelayerwhichprobablyshouldbecapitalizedandthusthestockshouldbeexpectedtotradeunderNAVinthefutureaswell.IdontthinkthoughthattheNAVdiscountshouldbeashighasitcurrentlyis.

    IdounderstandthoughthatthemarketdoesntgiveanyvaluetotheVivendijudgementsimplybecauseitssoeasytoforget.Inadditiontothatitsuncertainwhen/iftheresgoingtobeapayment.

    LibertyBroadband(LBRDA/LBRDB/LBRDK)

    Highspeedinternetisverysticky.Peopleloveit.Ithinktheywouldgiveupfoodbeforetheywouldgiveuptheinternet.

    LibertyBroadbandisbasicallyaholdingcompanythatowns>25%ofCharterpreTWCdeal.

    BeforetheTWCdeal,thisiswhattheyown:

    Charter28.84mshares,valueat$171.80/shareis~$4.95bnTWC2.36mshares,valueat$180/shareis~$423m(Thesewillallbeconvertedtonewchartershares)Truepositionseebelow$700mincashwhichis/willbeinvestedinnewCHTR$300mdebttoLibertyMediaTheyalsohadTWCcalloptionswritten,whichaccordingtoQ1filingswerefairlyvaluedat$71.5m.Idontknow/understandhowtheseworkwiththeTWCmergersoImgoingtotreatthemwiththeirfairvalue.

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    Truepositiondevelopsandmarketstechnologyforlocatingphonesanddevicesonthecellularnetwork.IpersonallyhavenoideawhatTruepositionisworthitsAdjustedOIBDAfor2014wasnegative$3m.GlennChanhadanexcellentpostonit,butImnotassigningitanyvaluejusttobesafe.

    IthinkitspossiblethatTruepositionsvalueisntinitoperations,butinthefactthatitsanoperatingbusiness.Section355exchange,aformoftaxfreedistributiontoshareholders,apparentlyrequirestheretobeanoperatingbusiness.SounlessImmistaken,theywouldnthavebeenabletospinLBRDtaxfreeoutofLMCwithoutTrueposition.

    Roughsumofparts

    ThistooisalreadyoldnewsbecausethepricessurgedreallyfastafterIhaddone/writtenthese,whichisreallyirritating.

    CornerofBerkshireandFairfaxLBRDA

    Charter&TWCdealTounderstandLBRD,youhavetounderstandCharter,whichisbuyingout

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    bothTWCandBrightHouseNetworksintherecentlyannounceddeal.

    Togetthedealdone,LVNTAand3rdpartyinvestorssuchasSorobanandJanapartners(whoalsohappenstobeonthesmartinvestorslist)investinLBRDKstockat$56.23/shareandproceedswillbeusedinvestinginthenewCharter.Thislooksfairforexistingshareholdersasyoucaninvestinthesamesharescurrentlyatlowerprice.

    ThisdealhasbeenwrittenkindaextensivelybyseveralwritersandIthinkIveseenatleastfewspreadsheetsregardingthedeal,itsverygoodideatoproduceyourownbecause1.youlearnsomethingintheprocess2.youdevelopmoreconvictiontotheideabecauseyouunderstanditbetter.

    Charterisvaluedat10.5xEV/EBITDATWCwillbeboughtat$55.62bn/$22.69debt>$78.31bnEVandabout$8bnEBITDA.EV/EBITDAis9.8x.Adjustedforsynergies,EV/EBITDAforTWCiscalculatedat8.3x

    EvenwithoutsynergiesthedealisaccretiveforCharter.ThebestpartofthisdealisthatTWCassetsaremismanagedandtheyarebroughtunderTomRutledge,whowillimprovetheoperations.

    Greatpostsonthedeal:

    ValueVenturepost17MilepostSATrevorChangpost

    AndheresmyattemptinvaluingproformaCharter:

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    Revenuegrowthisagiven,butwhythemarginexpansion?

    1. Fixedcosts2. Broadbandcustomersarehighermarginthanvideocustomersandare

    growingfasterthanvideocustomersaredeclining(Rutledgealsohashistoryofdramaticallyreducingvideochurn)

    Asfortaxes,IrememberreadingthattheNewCharteriseffectivelyshelteredfromtaxesuntil2019duetoNOLs,steppingupacquiredassets,capexetc.

    Ivelaidouttwocases,9xEV/EBITDAvaluationand10xEV/EBITDA.Ifshare

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    pricegoeslower,buybackswillbemoreaccretive,soIthinkitsnotthatbigofadealinthelongterm.

    Ithinkthatthemostlikelyoutcomeissomewherebetween13.518%CAGRinthemediumterm.Inthelongtermwellprobablyseelowmidteensreturns,dependingonwhetherMalonesrightwithcableorwhethersomethingelsehappens.

    WhatIloveaboutcableisthatitsaplayintooneofthemegatrendsthatIseebeinghugeinthefuture.

    Alsonoticethatmymarginandgrowthassumptionsareabitlowerthansomepeoples,sotheremightbesomeupsidetothesescenariosifRutledgemanagestopullmarginsover40%andgrowthhigherthanmiddigitsp.a.

    Therealitywillalwaysbedifferentfrommodels,forexamplebecauseRutledgewillbeinvestingmoreforthelongterm,soFCF/earningswilllikelybelowerandthustheremightbelessbuybacks.Inanycase,IbelievethatMalonedidntbullshituswhenhesaidduringLiberty2015AGMthathethoughtthedealwillhavehighteensIRR.

    Inadditiontoallthese,theremightbesomeadditionalupsideifcapexwillbelowerinthefuture.MymodelassumesthatthecapexwillstaythesameinrelationtoproformaEBITDA/EBITDAcapexratio.

    TomRutledgeIfyouvefollowedCharterforawhile,youveprobablyheardthatRutledgeisconsideredthebestoperatorinthebusiness.Butwhy?

    BeforeMalonerecruitedRutledgetoCharter,hewastheCOOofCablevision.Duringhistenurethere,Cablevisionachievedthebestoperatingmetricsintheindustry.Hesworkedincableindustryformostofhislifeandherosetohiscurrentpositionfrominstallingequipmenttocustomerhomes.

    WhenhejoinedCharter,herecruitedmostofhisteamfromCablevision.

    MaloneisveryimpressedwithRutledgeandwhathedidwithCHTR,for

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    example:

    1. Simplifyingtheservicewithonepackage>thishelpscustomernottocallthemmuchsothattheydontneedmuchpeopleatcustomerservicing,whichinturndriveshighermargins

    2. Goingalldigitalwheretheycanoffer50mbminimumserviceatreasonablepriceandwiththebenefitthatwhendataconsumptionisincreasing,theyhavenoproblemwiththecapacity.

    3. Withfixedtelephonehesaidthattheyaregoingtopriceitsothatpeoplecantsayno.

    Ithinkresultsspeakforthemselves.Rutledgehasbeentheonlycableguygrowingsystematicallyinhighsingledigits.

    Miscellaneous,interestingnotesonCHTR/TWC

    ManyinvestorsbelievethatallhouseholdsintheU.S.havehighspeedinternet.Infact,50%ofU.S.householdsusecableorfiberinternet,20%ofU.S.householdsuseDSLinternet,and30%ofU.S.householdsdonothavebroadbandinternet.Asrecentlyas2012,U.S.cablecompaniessuchasComcast,TimeWarnerCable,andCharterallhadmorevideosubscribersthaninternetsubscribers.

    Inotherwords,broadbandinternetisahugeopportunityinthefuture,especiallyasdataspeed/capacitydemandgrows.

    Someotherpointstobenoted:

    TWCisyettoconvertalldigital.Theyhavealreadystartedthisprocessandonceitscompleted,itwillbeadrivertoenhancetheperformanceofthecombinedcompany.Malonethinksthatitwilltake3yearstocompletethisprocessatTWC/BHN,butitwillbeworthit.Thedealwilllikelygothroughfasterthanpeoplethinkbecausethethreecompanieshavealreadybeenexaminedbythe

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    regulatoryentitiessotheprocessshouldbemorestraightforward.Internetconnectivityisveryhighmargin,whichwilldrivemarginexpansioninthefutureforcablecompanies.BrightHousealreadyhasawirelessservicewitharound45khotspotsinFlorida,couldaccelerateChartersexpansionefforts.TWChasatechnologycalledHotspot2.0,whichenablesbroadbandcustomerstohaveaseamlessexperiencewiththeiraccesspoints.OverlapwithFiOSisminimalwithbothCharterandTWCunder4%withFiOS(VZ)acrossgeographicfootprintvs.CVC/CMCSA/TWCat45%/15%/12%Itmighttake~3yearsforthebiggestresultstostarttoshowup.ThereasonforthisisthatRutledgeplanstounifythecombinedcompanysproductofferingsetc.+upgradetheanalogsystemsduringthetime.ThismightnotbepossibletodowithoutstrongcontrolfromLibertybecauseitrequiresalongtermview.FromwhatIvereadandunderstood,thesettopboxesthatCHTRisdeploying(Worldbox),ismilesaheadofcompetitors.Forexample,itsbackwardscompatible,cloudbased,theycanhavemultiplesuppliersbecauseoftheirownsecuritytechnologyuseddrivinglowercostsetc.

    CablescompetitiveadvantageCablehasanadvantagewithbroadbandagainstDSLbasedincumbentprovidersbecausecablerequiresconsiderablylessincrementalcapitaltoincreasespeedsontheirservice.

    ThisadvantagehastobeusedasfastaspossibletoensurelastingcompetitivepositionandthisiswhyChartersRutledgehasbeeninvestingforthefuture,sacrificingfreecashflowintheshortterm.

    Anotherthingthatsafactoristhatthetelcoshavecommittedtoahighdividendpolicy,whichrestrictstheirabilitytoinvestininfrastructureaswell.

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    Itcostsabout$3,400tomakeaneworupgradedconnectiontoasingleaveragesuburbancustomer,includinginfrastructure,lineextensionsandhomeinstallation.Sincetheaveragemarginperhouseholdis$50to$100permonth,thepaybackcaneasilytakemorethansixyears.

    (sourceforabovequote)

    Mobile/wifiopportunity

    Datademandonwirelessnetworksaregoingtocreateascarcitysituationincreasingly,wheremoreandmoreofdatawillhavetobedownloadedthroughterrestialnetworks.

    Maloneisvisioningthatcableisgoingtocreateanationwidewifinetwork,wheredevicesaregoingtoworkseamlesslywhethertheyareathomeorelsewhere.

    Ultimatelythesenetworkswillhavetoworktogethereithercooperativelyorthroughconsolidation.

    Hementionedthatwificostperbithasthepotentialtobecheaperthanthecellularspectrumcost.ThisisinterestingbecauseMarkMasseymentionedinhisinterviewthatLibertyGlobalisintheprocessofmakingits15m+customermodemsintoWIFIhotspotsthatcanbeaccessedbyallcustomers,creatingawifinetworkforthebenefitofthecustomers.(IthinkIvereadthoughthattheHorizonwifirangeiskindashitty)

    Myguessis,thegovernmentwouldbegreatlypleasediftherewasathirdmeaningfulalternativetothetwodominantwirelesscompanies.

    OnethingthatpeoplehavemissedwiththeTWC,isthatduetohistoricalquirk,theyhaveaperpetualrighttobeingaMVNO(MobileVirtualNetwork

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    Operator).Charterdidnthavetheserights,butthroughtheTWCdealtheydobyextension.

    Thebestthingaboutthisisthatbecausethecostsarelargelyfixed,thiswillbebothagrowthandmarginexpansionopportunity.Italsohasthepotentialtocreatealotofvalueforthecustomerwithpossiblequadplayswhereallcommunicationsishandledthroughthecablecompany,creatingevenmorestickiercustomerrelationships.

    VODMalonetalkedalsointheAGMaboutvideoondemand(VOD)andhowthecablecompaniesfailedtocapitalizeonthat,whichultimatelyledtotheemergenceofNetflixandHulu.

    Hestillbelievesthatbyleveragingtheirexistingdistributionsystem,itstillcouldbeanopportunity.

    TheultimategoalFromwhatIvegathered,makingtheconsumerstickyandsecuringtheleadershippositionwithnewproductsandofferingbetterservicethantelcosisMalonesultimategoalwithcable.

    Hewantscabletobetheonestopforcommunicationsbybundlingallofittogether:bestbroadbandspeedatthebestprice,cheapwififorseamlessexperienceinandoutofhome,mobileplayasMVNOandmaybemakingacompetitiveVODproducttocompetewithNFLXandHulu.(+somethingIforget)

    Theinfrastructureofcableofferssomanypossibilitiesinthedataheavyworldoftomorrowanditcurrentlyhasaleadwhichmustbetakenadvantageofbeforecompetitorscatchup.

    LetshavealookatMalonesinternationalcableoperations:

    LibertyGlobal(LBTYA/LBTYB/LBTYK)

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    LibertyGlobalconsistsmostlyofoperationsinEurope,wheretheyarealreadypastthebiggestconsolidationphase.

    Itskindabigatover$42bnmarketcap@$47.9/share,~881.79mshares.

    AsforthevaluationIthinkitsaround10xEV/EBITDA,with5xEBITDAleverage.

    Again,Imnotgoingtogoindetailherebecausetheressimplynotmuchtosay:alotofwhatshappeningwithCharterisapplicabletoLibertyGlobal,thoughIthinkRutledgeisbetterCEOthanFries.

    Ibelievethattheyaremostlydonewithbigdeals(likeFrieshassaid),butIdneverruleoutthechanceforthemtodoamegadealifagoodopportunitypresentsitself.MaybeMalonewillfigurehowtogetthebananaoutofthejar(inotherwords,doadealwithVodafone)

    HimtalkingaboutVodafone:

    Theprincipalbarriertous,andImtalkingphilosophicallyhereImnotmakinganoffertoanybodyphilosophically,youhaveadifferentviewofhowalargecompanyshouldcapitalizeitself,Malonesaid.Theirphilosophyislowleverage,lowriskandhighcashpayouttotheirshareholders.Iprefertogrowequityvalue.

    FromMalonespointofview,Vodafoneisruninefficiently.Theresalotofvaluetobecreatedbecausepeoplehaventfiguredouthowtorunthecablesystemsaswellashedoes.

    Sowhatsnext?Cableconsolidation,accordingtoFriesisprettymuchdoneinEurope,sothenextlogicalthingafterhorizontalexpansionisverticalintegrationandfocusingonpenetrations(whicharerelativelylow)andoperationalprowess.IbelieveLibertyGlobalwillbeparticipatingincreasinglymoreinthecontentsideandtheyvealreadydonesomeJVdealswithDiscovery.

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    [edit]Also,seecablepenetrationcomparisontablefurtherdowntoseetheLBTYAspotentialintermsofincreasedpenetrationrates.

    Horizonsettopboxproblems?TherehasbeensomeconcernsthatLibertyGlobalsnewHorizonboxsucks.ThereareseveralthreadsthatcanbefoundonGooglewherepeoplearecomplainingaboutit.

    Evenasrecentlyas7monthsago,therewasaredditthreadwherepeoplejustslammeditdownandIcantotallyunderstandthat:nothingmakesmemoremadthanusingsomethingregularlythathasashittyuserinterface.

    ThesilverliningherecouldbethatLGIcanupdatetheboxesremotelyandapparentlytheyvemanagedtofixsomeproblems,butIfinditweirdhowtheyrolledoutaboxEuropewidewhichpeopleconsideradisasteruserinterfacewise.

    ThismightnotbematerialtoLGIespeciallyiftheymanagetofixthebiggestshortcomingsbutIdohopethattheygettheirshittogetherwithit.

    IdidfindthislittlepiecewhichtalksabouttheirnewboxwhichislaunchinginNetherlandsinconnectionwithZiggoacquisition:LibertyGlobalhadgottenalotofcomplaintsabouttheoldboxsotheyapparentlymanagedtoaddressthecompaintsandupgradedit.Thisissomewhatencouraging.

    LibertyGlobalLatinAmericaandCaribbean(LILA/LILAB/LILAK)AboutaweekagoLibertyGlobalcreatedatrackingstockfortheirLatinAmericaandCaribbeanoperations(LiLAC).

    Forstarters,checkouttheLiLACpresentation.

    LILAKownsfollowingassets:

    VTR,ThebiggestcablesysteminChile60%ofLCPR,LibertyCablevisionPuertoRicoajointventurewith

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    Cablevision,wheretheyessentiallyhaveamonopolyif/whentheChoiceacquisitioncompletes

    LILAKlikelyhasthelongestrunwayintheempire.TensofmillionsofpeopletherearestilladoptingthemodernlifestylesothereshugepotentialforMalone/FriesimplementtheplaybooktherewithmassiveM&A+organicgrowth.

    EvenifLiLACforwhateverreasonwouldbecomedistressed,itsstilllegallypartofLibertyGlobalsotheysharethebalancesheet.Idontknowhowthematterwouldbesolvedfromtheperspectiveoftheshareholders,butultimatelyIthinkprovidessomemarginofsafetytotheinvestment.

    DespitetheeconomicproblemsinPuertoRico,thecablerevenueshavebeengrowingmostlybecauseoffavorabledemographics:MyimpressionisthatPuertoRicoisstilladevelopingplacewherepeoplearestilladoptingtolifestylefilledwithTV,computersandespeciallytheinternet.Thisshoulddrivehighsingledigitgrowthintheregionforthecablesystemthere.

    LiLACmightexperiencesomeproblemswiththeeconomiesofLatinAmerica,butIbelieveonehastothinklongtermaboutthis.IthinkIvereadthattheyhedgesomeoftheircurrencyexposure.

    HeresmyattemptinvaluingLILAK:

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    TakeintoconsiderationthatearningsinthiscaserepresentsnormalizedFCFwithnormalizedmaintenancecapex.IthinkthatLILAKwillhavehighercapexduetonewbuildopportunitiesandthuslessbuybacks.

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    Herearethepopulationpyramids,whichgivesomesenseofthepotentialofthedemographics.

    ComparisonofcablepenetrationIbelieveoneofthekeysofjudgingcablecompaniesistheirpenetrationrate:

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    Fewnotes:

    LiLACpenetrationlookmature,butmostgrowthcomesfromfavorabledemographicsbecausemostpeopledontevenownacomputeryetLibertyGlobalhasagreatopportunitywithInternetpenetration,thoughImnotsurewiththeindividualcountrieshowthemarketsarethere.LGIhasgoodinteractiveserviceabouttheiroperationsintheirwebversionof2014AnnualReport.

    AtfirstsightyoumightnoticethattheProFormaCharterspenetrationratesarehighlysimilartoComcasts.Itrepresentshowintrinsicallydependentthe

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    futureperformanceofthecompanyisofRutledge.

    Bonus:CWCArticle:MalonetotakestakeinCWC

    CWCisaUKbasedcableandwirelesscompanyoperatingintheLatinAmerica.TheyrecentlyacquiredColumbusandapparentlythetransactionmadeMaloneamajorshareholderinthecompany.

    CWCappointedThadYorktotheirboardofdirectors,whoisthemanagerofMalonespersonalbusinessentities.

    ThadheldseniorpositionsatTelecommunicationsInc.(TCI)andTCIInternationalthatrangedfromoperationstofinanceinTCIscableTVbusiness.HestartedinthecabletelevisionbusinessasanInstallerforTCIwhileattendingcollege.

    TheressomespeculationthatCWCatsomepointcouldbefoldedintoLILAKandthusMalonecouldendupowningbiggerpercentageofitthannow.

    ThisbegsaquestionwhetheryoushouldinvestinCWCtoanticipatethisdeal?Illhavetoworkonthismyself,butheresthequicknumbersonCWC:

    EBITDA$585mLTMMarketcap4.368B*69p=3bnGBPor$4.7bnUSDCurrentleverage3.6xEBITDA(target2.53,whichislow,butwillbelikelyuppedifMalonegetscontrol?)Q1netdebt$2366mEV/EBITDA=$7066/$585>12x

    With12xEV/EBITDAitlooklikealotofthepotentialisalreadypricedinwhileLILAKistradingunder10x.CurrentlyitseemsthatonvaluationbasistherewouldbemorevalueinLILAK,butoneshouldntunderestimatethefactthatMaloneownsmoreCWCthanLILAK.

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    ImprettysurethattherewillbeadealatsomepointandMalonewillownmoreLILAK.

    Iftheresoneconclusionthatoneshouldhavehere,itsthatMaloneseesalotofpotentialincableinLatinAmerica.

    LibertyInteractiveLibertyInteractiveconsistsoftwotrackingstocks:

    1. LibertyVentures(LVNTA/LVNTB)2. QVC(QVCA/QVCB)

    TherationaleforthesebeingunderthesameumbrellaislikelybecauseQVCisprofitableandVentureshassomeinvestmentsanddebtwithfavorabletaxattributessoLVNTAcansheltersomeofQVCstaxes.

    Quicklookatboth:

    LibertyVentures(LVNTA/LVNTB)Thisoneseffectivelyapublichedgefund

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    LVNTAconsistsofnumerousequitystakes,whollyoralmostwhollyowneddigitalcommercebusinessesandsomederivativesthenoisystuff.

    Thekindofstuffyounormallywouldnttakepublicasitstoocomplicatedandanalystsdontwanttomesswithit

    Fewnotes:

    1. TheirinvestmentsphilosophyisthekindthatIvegrowntolikealotlately:SeekhighROICbusinesseswithreinvestmentopportunities

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    atattractivevaluations.2. Someinvestmentsaretaxdriven(forexample,Greenenergy),

    meaningthatwithouttheirfavorabletaxattributestheywouldntbethere.

    Thelatestpresentationhadshortdiscussionabouttheircurrentinvestmentsandwhattheyareattemptingtodisrupt.IhighlightedtheonesthatbelongtoLVNTAcurrently:

    Theirlatestdealistobuy$2.4bnworthofLBRDKatNAV($56.23)andtheir

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    existingTWCstakegetsswappedwithLBRDforequity.ThiskindofreinforceshowattractiveMalonethinksLBRD/newCharteris,thoughIalsothinkthisarrangementwasneededtogetthedealdoneandtoavoidinvestmentcompanyactwhichwoulddemolishthesupervotingsharestructure.

    WhatsinterestingaboutVenturesisthattheyaregettingannualcashflowfromQVCbecausetheyshieldsomeofQVCstaxes,thoughcumulativedeferredtaxliabilitygrowsaswell:

    Heresmyunderstandingofthewholearrangement:Becauseofthefavorabletaxtreatmentfrombondstheygettoinvestthecashfromtaxshield

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    beforehandbeforetheyhavetopaytheliabilitiesbackinfull($5.1bn)in20292031or1416yearsfromnow.

    Theyllhavetopaytotalof$5.1bnstartingfrom2029.Beforethistheycaninvestthecashthattheyaregoingtogetbeforehandfromtheirarrangementssoyoullhavetodiscounttheirperformanceuntiltheyhavetopaythetaxliabilitiesback.

    Inotherwords,LVNTAiskindofaleveredinvestmentvehicleplay.

    SounlessImwrong,theyllhavetopay$7.2bnin20292031andsotodeterminehowmuchLVNTAisworth,youllhavetoestimatehowmuchtheyllbeabletogrowtheircurrentinvestments+taxcashflowtheyaregoingtogetinthemeantime.

    HeresasnippetfromthespreadsheetthatImade:

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    Imalmost100%surethatIvemadeamistakealongthelinebecauseLVNTAissocomplicated,butitssomething.NoticethattheirleveredstructureresultstoCAGRperformancebeinghigherthantheirgrowthininvestments.

    1. Ivaluedtheirecommercebusinessesat$1bn2. Iassignedvalueof0togreenenergyforsafety3. Myhopefullyconservativevaluationfortheirinvestments+businesses

    is~$8.5bn4. ItookthecashflowtheygetfromshieldingQVCtaxintoconsideration.5. TakingintoconsiderationMalone&Maffeicombotrackrecord,Ithink

    10%growthexpectationininvestmentsmightbetooconservativeand

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    thatswhyIputfewdifferentscenariosthere.6. InoticedthatyoucanvaluethisroughlybytakingtheestimatedROIof

    LVNTAandadding2%togettheCAGRbecauseofleverage

    IfyoulikeExpedia,theirotherinvestmentsandLBRDKatNAV,thiscouldagoodwaytobuyintoit.

    Also,takeintoaccountthattheycurrentlyhave~$700mworthofdeferredtaxliabilitiesfromtheirequities,butIwouldntbetooworriedaboutthempayingtaxesunlessnecessary.

    Oneoptionthattheyhave,whichtheyalsodidwithTripadvisoristospinofftheholdingsviaReverseMorrisTrust(anotherarticleoninvestopedia)andmonetizethemthatwaytaxfree.

    Somerisks:Inadditiontonotinvestingtheircashwellenough,thebondsthataredue2029areexchangeable.Iftheyarecalledunexpectedly(likeifoneofthebondholdersgetstakenoutinM&Aevent),LVNTAhastopaybeforehandfortheliabilities.Thegoodthingisthatthebondholdersareincentivizedtoholduntilmaturity.

    Oneoftheproblemsisthatitcanbehardforthemtofindattractiveinvestmentsgoingforward,especiallyifthecurrentbullruncontinues.TheydohavetheoptiontobuybackLVNTAshares,grantedtheyarepricedfairly.

    ScenariosformonetizationThisfairlyrecentSumzerowriteuponLVNTAwaswrittenbyapersonwhoseemssmart/knowledgeableandcamewithscenarioswhereLVNTAcouldmonetizetheirassets.Ifyouareinterested,Ihighlyrecommendyoutoreadit.

    Malonesellseverythingbutthis?Imightbelookingabittoomuchintoit,butrememberwhenIwroteaboutMalonesinsidertradingwherehessellingbunchofstuffregularly?Well,if

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    youcheck,youmightnoticethatforsomereasonhehasntsold/isntsellinganyLVNTA.TheredoesntexistnonvotingsharessothatmightbeonepartofitthoughIdontknow.

    NowthatIvegotabitbetterunderstandingofLVNTA,Igetwhysomeonewouldwanttoownthis.Improbablygoingtoinitiateasmallposition,keepfollowingitandtrytounderstanditevenbetter.

    QVCGroup(QVCA/QVCB)Forme,QVCisoneoftheleastinterestingpiecesoftheempire.ItconsistsofQVC,aTV/onlinemultichannelretailerandastakeinHSN.

    BecauseImnotveryinterestedinit,IllcoverwhatIcancomeupfornowandreferyoutoabetterandmorecomprehensivewriteup:

    Slowgrowthletsfaceit,retailingisreallyhardandcompetitive.QVCiswellmanagedandithasgoodprofitability(despite)beingaretailer.AssetlightdriveshighFCFwithverylittlecapitalexpendituresmostofthecashflowgoestoaggressivebuybacks.3xadj.OIBDAleverageContentdrivenforexample,theyareproducing2.5mminutesofhighqualityvideosyearly.Developingonlineshoppingexperienceaggressively,whichisIIRCatleast>50%oftheirsales.Mostoftheirproductsareexclusive,whichcreatesadditionalvaluetocustomersandalsomitigatesAmazonthreat.Customersaresomewhatloyalasmostofthesalesarerepeatpurchases.

    MyconclusionisthatQVCisagoodbusiness,butnotasgreatasIconsiderotherspartsofMalonesempiretobe.Asexpecteditswellmanaged,thoughifitwasntitprobablywouldntbethereasitwouldhavebeenswapped/sold

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    out.

    Thebest(andtheonly)writeupthatIvereadonQVCisbyValueVenturesfrom2013.Highlyrecommendedifyouareinterested.

    Discovery(DISCA/DISCB/DISCK)IveactuallywrittenaboutDiscoveryafewmonthsback,butIwouldntrecommendthatposttoanyone.BackthenIunderstoodalotlessaboutthecompanyandtheindustryandIstillfeellikeIdontunderstandeitherofthemwell.

    MyimpressionisthatDiscoverysCEOZaslavisprettygoodoperatorandtheyvebuiltscalefairlywell,butyoucanonlydosomuchwithassetsthatlookrelativelymatureatleastintheUS.

    InternationalrevenuesarebeexpectedtogrowbothorganicallyandduetoM&Ainthelongterm,butitshardtosayhowmuch.

    Scaleisimportant.Yougetmorenegotiationpoweroverdistributorsdependingonhowmuchcontentyouprovide.Inadditiontothat,contentproductioncostsarelargelyfixedsothebusinessenjoyseconomiesofscale.Malonehashintedthattherecouldbeaoncomingcontentconsolidation.

    Thebusinessisassetlightmostoftheircostsarerelatedtoproducingcontentandothercostsaremostlyfixed.Thismeansthatthebusinessgeneratesalotoffreecashflow,whichhashistoricallybeenusedtoshrinktheequity.

    DISCmakesabout45%ofmoneyfromdistributionandrestfromadvertisingandother,sodistributionissignificantpartoftheirbusiness.Theycandemandmoremoneyfromcableoperatorswhentheybundlealotofchannelstogether(scale)andthesecostshavehistoricallybeenforwardedtocustomers.

    IbelieveinthefutureDiscoverysbusinessmightbeunderpressurebecauseinternetcantnecessarilybecontrolledandmonetizedaswellcurrentdistributionsystemsthroughCable.WhenIlookathowpeopleofpeoplein

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    their20susingcontentviainternet(andhowIpersonallyuse),thisissomethingthatIthinkhasfairchanceofhappeninginthelongterm.

    Becausebundling,accordingtomyunderstanding,isalargepartofDiscoverysbusinessmodel,thetrendofpayingforwhatyouneed(asopposedtopayingforwholepackage)wouldhurtthebottomline.

    Channelpopularityanddemandisprobablyamitigatingelement.Discoveryschannelisinthetop5ofcablechannelsandIbelievesomeoftheirotherchannelsfareprettywell.

    AsforthevaluationIdonthavemuchinsightsitspricedatabout~18P/FCF,EV/FCFbeingsomewhathigher.IftheycangrowAOIBDAinthelongterm,debtenhancedbuybackswillshrinkequityfastenhancingreturns.Theonlyproblemwithlongtermgrowthisbeforementionedtrends,whichiswhyIdontfeelbullishonthestock.

    Starz(STRZA/STRZB)StarzisanentertainmentbrandownsfewpayTVchannels,distributesmovies,seriesanddoesforhire2Danimations.

    Itsfinancialsfromthepast4yearsdontlookgood,atleastcomparedtootherpartsoftheempire.

    IfoundthisreallygoodanswerfromMalone(fromsomeinterviewmostlikelyin2013),creditstooriononCoB&F:

    Starzcangoeitherway.Itcangetbiggerthroughacquisitionoritcangetmergedintosomebodywhocandriveembetter.MyviewisStarzneedstobepartofsomethingbigger.Theyneedacurrencytogetthere.Andsothisgivesthemastockandacurrency.Ifsomebodywantstocomeandmakeaproposalafteritsspunforwhyitwouldbeagreatcombination,youknow,wellbeallearsatthatpoint.

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    Inotherwords,Malonewantstosell/swapit.

    Asastandaloneitdoesntseemhavemuchpotentialandtheyareapparentlytryingtofindbuyersforthebusiness,butwithoutsuccess.Forthepastyearstheyvestarteddoingoriginalprogramming,whichiftheyhitajackpotwouldprobablyhelpthemalotinfindingabuyer.

    Lionsgate(LGF)RecentlyMaloneswappedsomeofhisStarzstakefor3%ofLionsgate.Idontknowwhatheplanstodowithithedidsaythatitslikealearningexperienceforhim:

    Imanengineer,whatthehelldoIknowaboutcontent?Tryingtounderstandwheretheseideascomefrom,howtheygetcreatedandproduced.ThedevelopmentofstoriesisreallygoingtobeimportantinthisrandomaccessworldthatReedHastingsisdrivingusinto.

    Now,eventhoughMalonestillhasinvestmentsincontent,hedoesntcontrolthemasitcouldpresumablycreateproblemswithregulationduringcableconsolidation(ashesaidinthe2015AGM).IthinkhesalotmoreattractedtocableandLMC.

    Thisisntausualinvestmentforhim:makingmoviesisveryexpensiveandthebusinessdoesntenjoywhatMaloneusuallylikesinacompany:moat,customerstickiness,recurringrevenuesetc.

    Malonemightbethinkingthatcontentaggregators(likeDiscovery)couldbecomeunderpressureduetorapidexpansionofinternet,whilethosewhodevelop/createthecontent(likeLionsGate)couldkeeponthrivingandperhapsmakemoremoneybecauseoflackofthemiddleman.

    Anyways,IthinkthemostplausibleexplanationforthisisthatMalonewantstobenefitfromlikelyoncomingcontentconsolidation(i.e.LGFgetsboughtout)orhethinksthatcontentcreatorsaregoingtoleveragetheinternetheavilyagainstcurrentdistributors.Idontknow.

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    ItcouldalsobepossiblethathecouldsomehowleveragetherelationshipwithLGFtoextendtohisother,heavilyskewedintodistributionkindofcompanies.

    OfcourseImightbemissingsomekindofanglehereandImeagertoseewhatitis(iftheresone).

    WhyDidJohnMaloneinvestinLionsGate?

    AscentCapital(ASCMA/ASCMB)NowthisisanoddthingandIalmostmisseditcompletely:Malonenevertalksaboutit,hedoesntsitontheboard..buthestillapparentlyowns~4%ofit.

    ItsasecuritymonitoringbusinessIglancedatitanditmighthavepotential,butforthemostpartIdontfeelveryinterestedinitbecausetheressomuchmoreinterestingstuffgoingonwiththeothercompanies.

    Ithinkhesnotrequiredtoreporthissells,soitspossiblethathesselling.Cantbesurethoughuntiltheresanewproxystatement.

    Bonus:GrupoTelevisa(TV)TelevisaGrupoisthebiggestcable/satellite/mediacompanyinMexicoandSpanishspeakingworld.Apartfromitsamazingassetsandseculartrendopportunity,itsinterestingbecauserecentlytwoMaloneslietunenantsjoinedtheirboard:MikeFries(LibertyGlobalCEO)andDavidZaslav(DiscoveryCEO).

    TheresafairlyrecentpresentationbyGameCreekCapital,wheretheyestimateTVstargetpricetobebetween$4557/share.WhatIwanttohighlightfromtheirpresentationaretheassetsthatthecompanyisholding:

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    Herearemyquicknotesfromthepresentation,butIhighlyrecommendyoutocheckitoutyourself.

    TVhas38%stakeinUnivision,whichisabouttoIPO.TValsocollects12%royaltiesfromUnivisionsrevenues.Asabonus,theroyaltyratewillincreaseto16%+in2018.Theyhaveexcellent,dominantassets:theircable,satelliteandcontentnetworksare#1measuredbymarketshareinMexico.Contentbusinessisslowgrowth,shouldhavesomerunwayleftSkybusinessisgrowingatlowdoubledigits

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    CablebusinessisveryhighgrowthandshoulddrivecashflowsstrongerinthefutureCableconsolidationinMexico/LatinAmericaisyettohappenandMikeFriescandefinitelyhelpwiththat.TVtodayremindsofComcastinthelate80s,whichiftrue,couldbeagoodopportunity.TheirassetsmightbeevenbetterasfarasImconcerned.DemographicsofSpanishspeakingworldarealongtermopportunityonlyaround50%ofMexicanspopulationisusinginternet.Verticalintegrationprovidessynergies.Aboutthemanagementteam,Idontreallyknow.TheyhavemanagedtobuildgoodassetsandthecompanyseemstobeingoodshapesoIminclinedtothinkthattheyaregood.TheBODadditionsraisesmyhopesforoptimizingvariousaspectsofthecompany(re:Maloneplaybook).

    Ithinkthisimagemakesthedemographicpotentialclear.

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    Asfortheconcerns,wearetalkingaboutMexico.Imnotfamiliarwithitatall,butmypreconceptionisthatthereiscorruption,canbelackingincorporategovernanceetc.ThegoodthingisthatTVdoeshavealongoperationalhistory,soasfarasIknowthereisntaprecedentformuchshadystuff.

    Eventhoughthecompanyhasgreatassets,theyseemtobeundermanaged.Forexample,theyhavereallylowleveragewhichtheyarejustifyingwithfirepower,butforwhatexactly?

    Whatthethingisworththen?Imnotsure,butherearetheprimarynumbers:

    (FiguresareaccordingtoQ2presentation)

    1. Marketcap:$22.5bn($36.25/share)2. Netdebt~$3bn3. EV/EBITDA~11x/2015accordingtomyspreadsheet,including

    estimatedUnivisionstake

    TherearealotofmovingpartstheGCCanalysisdoeslookcredible,butIdontreallyunderstandpossible(regulatory?)problemswithMexicoandtherecouldalsobesomethingthatImnottakingintoconsideration.

    Operational&financialriskwithTVlookslow,butitsdefinitelynotasoptimizedasMalonescompaniesare,whichhindersthegrowth/profitabilityofthebusinessgoingforward.

    Ibelievethatunlesstheircapitalallocationskillsimprove,thebusinesslooks~fairlyvalued.

    Asaninterestingsidenote,inLibertyMediasAGM,Malonewasaskedaboutit,buthesubtlyignoredit(implyingthathewouldntwantattentiontoit?).Itspossiblethathesimplyforgottoansweritsincehegavesuchalonganswertotheotherquestion,butitwouldbe..Outofcharacter,letscallitthat.

    SoTVcouldbesomesortofbonusforthewholeLibertyfamilyanditlooks

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    likeMalonehashiseyesonittosomedegree.

    Coincidentally,LiLACtrackingstockstartedjusttradingandthetimingisinterestingtoputitmildly.LiLACspresumedprimarypurposeistorollupLatinAmerica,whichaccordingtotheLiLACpresentationisripeforconsolidation.

    2014Businessdescription(includes2014lettertoshareholders)

    Whereisthemostvaluerightnow?Takeintoconsiderationthatthesearemyviewsonwheretherecouldbemostvalueandeventhoughtheydoreflecttheeconomy

    #1IbelieveinthelongtermLibertyGlobalLatinAmericaandCaribbean(LiLAC)operations(LILA/LILAK)hasthelongestrunwaywithorganicgrowthandaccretiveM&A.IalsothinkofitaslittlebitmoreriskierthanthemorematureassetsinEurope/US.ThestockdroppednicelysinceitstartedtradingpresumablybecauseindexfundsfocusedonEuropearesellingit.Unfortunatelyatthetimeofwritingitsreboundedsome.#2IfSIRIcankeepgrowinginmediumtermaswellasitcurrentlyis,LibertyMediaCorporation(LMCA/LMCK)canbethesecondbestbet(maybeeventhebest)inthemediumterm.Iviewitashigherrisk,higherrewardsituationcomparedtonewCharter,mostlybecauseImunsureofSiriusmoatandwhethertheresone.#3ThethirdbestopportunityIbelieveisinLibertyBroadband/Charter(LBRDA/LBRDK/CHTR),whereMalonehasbeenputtingmoremoneyindirectlythroughLVNTA.LVNTAcouldbeajokerofsorts:itcouldprovetobemorevaluablethanitscurrentmarketcapwouldwarrant,butIbelievetheresmorerisktoo.ItsreallycomplexwiththetaxarrangementsanditsessentiallyabetonMalone&Maffeisabilitytomakegreatinvestmentsbeforetheirliabilitiesareduein15years.LBTYA/K,despitecurrentlybeingthebiggestcompanyoutoftheempire,stilllookslikeithasnicerunwaywithrollingnewproductsand

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    relativelylowinternetpenetration.Contentconsolidationcouldbeanopportunity,butIdontunderstandtheindustryanditsprospectswellenoughtomakeaeducatedguessaboutit.Bonus:TVcouldbeagoodlongtermplayasithasunmatchedassetsandseculargrowthopportunity,butunlesstheircapitalallocationimprovesIbelieveitsfairlyvalued.This(asfarasIknow)isntaMaloneholdingsoitskindofaofftopic,butIthinkitmakesforanicebonus.

    Somethingstokeepaneyeon:

    1. ThetheoryisthatthebestideasgotowhatMaloneownsthemost,inotherwordsLibertyMediaCorporation(LMCA/LMCK).Hemostlikelyalsoprioritizesthosewhichhecontrolsdirectlybysittingaschairman.

    2. Iftheresarightsoffering,participateinit.(Usuallytheydoarightsofferingrelatedtospinoffs)

    3. Ifhiscompaniesarebuyingalotofsharesback,theymightbeundervalued.Ibelievethattheymightbuysharesbackeventhoughtheyarefairlyvaluediftheydonthaveanythingelsetoinvestin.

    4. Keepaneyeonethespinoffsandtrackingstocksthathiscompaniesdo:forexampleLILA/LILAK

    SuccessionMaloneisalready74yearsold,sothatsafactorthathastobetakenintoaccountwhenthinkingaboutfuture.Seeinghimintheinterviewsheseemshealthyandlivelythough,sohesgotthatgoingonforhim.

    HehasthoughtaboutsuccessionbygivingtwoofhisCEOs,FriesfromLibertyGlobalandZaslavfromDiscoveryanoptiontopurchasehissupervotingclassBsharesineachcompany.

    GregMaffei,whosatthehelmofLibertyMedia,LibertyInteractive

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    (QVC&LVNTA)andChairmanningsomeothercompanieslikeStarz,hasntgottensuchdeal(yet?).IthinkthoughMalonehassaidthathismost/allofhisshareswillgotoatrustandhellprobablygivevotingrightstopeoplehetrusts.

    Ibelievetheseguysknowhisplaybook,knowhowtooperate,havecapitalallocationskillsetc.sotheywillkeeponrespectinghislegacy.

    IamawareofthefactthattheremightbesomesortofregressiontothemeandependingonhowmuchMaloneparticipatesinthecompanies,butconsideringhowlongrelationshipstheseguyshavehadwithhim,Ithinkthecompanieswillultimatelydofine.

    Someresources/interviewsMalone2hourinterviewabouthispastin2001(ifyouvereadCableCowboy,theresnotmuchnewhere)Niceinterviewfrom2010withMaloneaboutcable/mediaindustry2012Maverickslecturemyfavoriteone,Iveprobablywatchedthis56timesCableCowboyMustreadbookifyouareinterestedinhim

    Insights,tipsandmiscfromMaloneMostofthesenotesarefromtheMaverick2012lecture:

    Ondiligence:

    Themostimportantthingaboutthesedealsisplentyoftimefordiligence

    Healsomakesagoodpointhowtakingthetimetakesawayfromtheemotion,enthusiasmwhenyouarebuildingthemodelsandexactlywhythedealgoingtowork.

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    Theresnoeasyanswerondiligence.Youhavetofigureouttheotherguysbusinessasbestasyoucan.Youhavetousethebestprofessionalsyoucanfindinareaswhereyourownexpertiseislacking.

    Onacquisitions:

    Whenyoubuyacompany,themostimportantthingistheretentionofthepeoplewhocreatedthevaluethatyouarebuyingtokeep.

    Thepeopleyouarebuyingoutmusthaveskininthegameatleastuntilgoodpeoplecanbebroughtintolearnthebusiness.

    Ontaxesandtaxefficiency:

    Malonehasalmostperversepassioninavoidingtaxes.Forexample,attheirheadquartersthetaxgoupisthebiggestonethattheyhaveandinTCIdaystheirinternaltaxteammetmonthlytodetermineoptimaltaxstrategies.

    [Government]isyourpartner,butyoudontwantthemtakingtheirshareearly

    Thegovernmentisyourpartnerforlife,theyjustdontgettocometoallthemeetings.Thatstheonlyedgeyougot.

    Leverageandtaxefficiencygohandinhand

    Ifyouboughttheassetwithcashordebt,yougettostepuptheasset

    HegaveagoodexampleofSprint,wheretherewasastartupcompanyandanotherprofitablecompany.Becausetheprofitablecompanysprofitswherepartlytaxshelteredbythestartupslosses,theycouldputtheshelteredcash

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    backintobusiness,whichresultedinaveryefficientcapitalstructure.

    IfyoulookatQVCandLVNTAcapitalstructure,whereLVNTAshelterssomeofQVCstaxesandgetspaidforit,youcanseethatitsveryefficient.

    IntheMaverickslecturehetalksabouttaxessomeandyougetasensethathesbeengivingtaxavoidance/optimizationALOTofthought.

    FinalwordsIntheenditwasahugepleasuretodothispostbecauseMaloneissuchafascinatingcharacter.Ibelievethathesisoneofthebestinvestorsofourtime,whichisinterestingconsideringthelackofvisibilitythathegetsingeneral.

    AlmosteveryvalueinvestorstudiesBuffettinsomewayeitherdirectlyorindirectly,butyouseealotlesspeoplestudyingMalone.Thisismostlikelybecausehedoesntwrite/educatelikeBuffettdoes,butthatdoesntmeanthattherearentgreatlessonstobelearned.

    Anyways,greatman,greatstory,greatinvestor.Whatmoreistheretosay?Ihopethestorycontinuesaslongaspossible.

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    FredDJuly21,2015

    Greatpost,superboverview!

    BusinessCharterCableSpectrumBusinessPhone&Internet.IncreaseYourBusinessROI&Save!

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    julesJuly21,2015

    Thanks

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    YairJuly21,2015

    Thankyouforadetailedpost.

    WeallanticipateaninterestratewillrisebytheFED.So,howthoregardthisrise:I.Malonewillfindithardtocuntinuetoleveragehisempire>hiscompeniesstockpriceswillnotoutpreform(comperetomarketaverage)

    II.InthelastyearsMalonefulfillhisempirewithenoughcheapmoney,soonlyhiscompetitors(andtherestofthemarketcompenies)willneedtoservehighcostdebt>hiscompeniesstockpriceswilloutpreformcomperetothemarket

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    julesJuly21,2015

    Goodpoints,Ibelievethatthebestwaytotrytomeasuretheeffectsofinterestratesistoplayaroundwithratesinaspreadsheetandseehowtheyeffectthecompanies.CantreallysayhowmuchrateshavetoincreaseforMalonescompaniestostarttounderperform.

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    innerscorecardJuly21,2015

    ThiswastheclearestoverviewofMaloneandLibertythatIhaveread.AndIvereadafewoftheotherones(someofwhichyouhavealludedto).

    Lookingforwardtoanyupdates/edits.

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    julesJuly21,2015

    Thanks

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    HiramPatelJuly21,2015

    Thisisafabulouspost.IvebeenmeaningtodooneofthesetokeepmyowninvestmentsinMaloneentitiesorganized.

    DoyouthinkLibertyGlobalisfullyorovervalued?

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    julesJuly21,2015

    Ithinkitmightbefairlyvaluedorslightlyundervalued.Ibelievetheyvegotdecentrunwaywithimprovingpenetrations+quadplays+wifiopportunitiesetc.

    OtherpartsoftheempirelookmoreinterestingrightnowsoImpersonallynotinvestinginLBTYKattheselevels.

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    AnthonyJuly23,2015

    DAMN!Wonderfulpost.Verycooltoseesomeoneputitalltogetherinonepost.Keepupthegoodwork

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