investing early
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Salary 50000
Investment 5000
Rate of return 14%
Years 30
Total investment 18,00,000
Portfolio value 27,785,278
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0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30
Year Your age Total saved excluding interest Interest earned Total saved including interest
0 25 INR 0 INR 0 INR 01 26 INR 60,000 INR 4,550 INR 64,5502 27 INR 120,000 INR 18,137 INR 138,1373 28 INR 180,000 INR 42,026 INR 222,0264 29 INR 240,000 INR 77,660 INR 317,6605 30 INR 300,000 INR 126,682 INR 426,6826 31 INR 360,000 INR 190,968 INR 550,9687 32 INR 420,000 INR 272,653 INR 692,6538 33 INR 480,000 INR 374,175 INR 854,1759 34 INR 540,000 INR 498,309 INR 1,038,309
10 35 INR 600,000 INR 648,222 INR 1,248,22211 36 INR 660,000 INR 827,524 INR 1,487,52412 37 INR 720,000 INR 1,040,327 INR 1,760,32713 38 INR 780,000 INR 1,291,323 INR 2,071,32314 39 INR 840,000 INR 1,585,858 INR 2,425,85815 40 INR 900,000 INR 1,930,028 INR 2,830,02816 41 INR 960,000 INR 2,330,782 INR 3,290,78217 42 INR 1,020,000 INR 2,796,041 INR 3,816,04118 43 INR 1,080,000 INR 3,334,837 INR 4,414,83719 44 INR 1,140,000 INR 3,957,464 INR 5,097,46420 45 INR 1,200,000 INR 4,675,659 INR 5,875,65921 46 INR 1,260,000 INR 5,502,801 INR 6,762,80122 47 INR 1,320,000 INR 6,454,143 INR 7,774,14323 48 INR 1,380,000 INR 7,547,073 INR 8,927,07324 49 INR 1,440,000 INR 8,801,414 INR 10,241,41425 50 INR 1,500,000 INR 10,239,762 INR 11,739,76226 51 INR 1,560,000 INR 11,887,878 INR 13,447,87827 52 INR 1,620,000 INR 13,775,131 INR 15,395,13128 53 INR 1,680,000 INR 15,935,000 INR 17,615,00029 54 INR 1,740,000 INR 18,405,649 INR 20,145,64930 55 INR 1,800,000 INR 21,230,590 INR 23,030,590
“Compound interest is the 8th wonder of the world”“He who understands it, earns it ... he who doesn't ... pays it.”
Salary 50000
Investment 5000
Rate of return 14%
Years 20
Total investment 12,00,000
Portfolio value 65,81,731
Salary 50000
Investment 5000
Rate of return 14%
Years 10
Total investment 6,00,000
Portfolio value 13,10,456
Investing Early - example 1
vijay 1 crore30 yrs
Rs. 3246 p.m. @ 12%
11.7 lacs
Rs. 10871 p.m. @ 12%
20 yrs 26 lacsAjay
Its way too early for me to save
1 crore
Rs. 44636 p.m. @ 12%
10 yrs 26 lacsIts way too early for me to save
Sanjay 1 croreI will save when
I have less expenses
Investing Early - example 2
Ajay
vijay30 yrs
Rs. 1000 @ 12%
Rs. 1500 @ 12%
10 yrs 20 yrs
36 lacs3.6 lacs
54 lacs1.8 lacs
Investing Early
No. of years of contribution at the end of 30 yr. period
% of corpus generated Total corpus
0 100.0% 1.76 crores
5 97.6% 1.72 crores
10 93.4% 1.65 crores
15 85.7% 1.51 crores
20 71.7% 1.26 crores
25 46.2% 0.81 crores
It doesn’t matter much if you don’t invest in later years
Rs. 5000 @ 12%
Investing Early - example 4
26 yrs old 30 yrs 3.5 crore
1 5000
10 yrs
15000
10 yrs
50000
10 yrs
2 10000
30 yrs
314000
10 yrs 20 yrs
no investment
Investing Early
Years without contribution at the end of tenure
Amount required per month
% increase in investment to reach the same corpus
0 5000 0.00%
5 5120 2.41%
10 5350 7.01%
15 5830 16.6%
20 6980 39.6%
25 10830 116%
29 43100 762%
Save a few more bucks early
AVOID THESE
ULIPs
Whole life insurance plans
Money back insurance plans
Pension/retirement plans
Child future plans
Any insurance cum investment product
Things to consider
Current liabilities
Future goals of your dependents
provide regular day-to-day expenses
tips while buying
buy before your next birthday
try to diversify
buy early in life for longer tenure
INVESTING
Ultra-short Time Horizon (< 1 Year)- Cash on Hand- Bank Savings Accounts- Liquid & Ultra-short term debt funds
Short Time Horizon ( 1- 3 Years)- Short term Debt Mutual Funds - Bank Fixed Deposits
Medium Time Horizon (3-5 Years)- Bank Fixed Deposits- Debt Mutual Funds- Medium term Gilt Funds
Long Time Horizon (> 5 Years)- Gold - Equity (Stocks)- Equity Mutual Funds- Real Estate
Different Asset Classes
Asset type Returns post inflation Taxable Pros Cons
Cash -6% No Liquid. Safe No growth
Saving a/c -2 to 0% Above 10,000 Liquid. Safe. No growth. Taxable
Fixed deposit 1 - 3% Above 10,000 Hedge against inflation. Safe Lock-in. Taxable
PPF 2.6% No Extremely safe 7 years lock-in, partial withdrawal
KVP or NSC 2.16% No Safe 8.7 or 6 years lock-in. Offline
Debt MFs 1-3% Yes Liquid. Better than FD. No growth. Taxable
Gold -1 to 4% No. Gold ETF - Yes As good as liquid. Safe. Non taxable.
Returns only in long term
Real estate 6-9% Yes High returns. Non-liquid. Fixed. Maintenance costs. Taxes.
Equity 8-9% > 1 yr. - No Liquid. Best for long term wealth creation. Unsafe in short run
Learning from history
Investment tenure 1 yr 2 yrs 3 yrs 5 yrs 7 yrs 10 yrs 15 yrs
Total positive instances 22 20 24 23 23 21 16
Total instance 30 29 28 26 24 21 16
% positive instance 73% 69% 86% 88% 96% 100% 100%
Learning from history
0%
25.00%
50.00%
75.00%
100.00%
1 yr 2 yrs 3 yrs 5 yrs 7 yrs 10 yrs 15 yrs
% positive instance
Learning from history
Investment tenure 1 yr 2 yrs 3 yrs 5 yrs 7 yrs 10 yrs 15 yrs
Best return 101% 59% 51% 43% 37% 31% 26%
Worst return -51% -22% -14% -2% -3% 3% 7%
Learning from history
-75.0%
-37.5%
0%
37.5%
75.0%
112.5%
150.0%
1 yr 2 yrs 3 yrs 5 yrs 7 yrs 10 yrs 15 yrs
Best return Worst return
Learning from history
Tenure 1 yr 2 yrs 3 yrs 5 yrs 7 yrs 10 yrs 15 yrs
Best return 101% 59% 51% 43% 37% 31% 26%
Average of 5 best 85% 52% 46% 39% 30% 27% 22%
Worst return -51% -22% -14% -2% -3% 3% 7%
Average of 5 worst -27% -13% -3% 1% 3% 6% 12%
Misconceptions related to Real estate
Real estate prices always rise
It gives better returns than any other form of asset
Reality vs. Equity
Long term real estate returns are 14% CAGR (valid for Mumbai). If you add rental yield of 2-3%, then the total returns are 16-17% CAGR. 20% tax after indexation
The Sensex returned 18% from base 100 in 1978.If you add dividend yield of 1.5%, then you get 19.5% CAGR
5000 p.m. 17% 19.5%
20 yrs 84 lacs 1.44 cr
30 yrs 4.2 cr 10.2 cr
Investing in MFs
2 Large cap funds1 Large + Mid cap fund1 Equity tax planning1 debt fund
Funds Top stock exposure
Top sector exposure
Top 3 sector exposure Top 10 stocks Large cap +
Mid cap Large Cap
2 funds 5.52% 24.5% 52.8% 37% 96% money in 74 stocks
85% in 49 stocks
5 funds 4.67% 21.07% 46% 34% 97% money in 111 stocks
81% in 59 stocks
10 funds 5.7% 21% 46.5% 37% 98% money in 131 stocks
80% in 60 stocks
Buying an MF
- KYC compliance (PAN, POI, POA)
- fundsindia.com- Approach the AMC- Open a Demat account
Few tips about saving and investing
Start with goals in mind
Short term - upgrade to sedan in 2 years
Long term - start a restaurant after 20 years
Save first spend later
Automate
Automate
Salary account Retirement
Setup SIP in mutual fund
10%Future goals
30%
Goal 1 Goal 2
Goal 3
Expense account
60%
All your regular expenses
Don’ts
Get into wrong products for Tax saving
Keep paying for endowment/ULIPs
Not have emergency funds
Buy stocks on the basis of tips given by others
Shop for things you don’t need
Two sites you should refer to:
www.jagoinvestor.com/archives www.investmentyogi.com
Example taken from this book Jagoinvestor - Changing your relationship with money