independent science on a large scale a panel discussion
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Platte River Recovery Implementation Program
Independent Scientific Advisory Committee
INDEPENDENT SCIENCE ON A
LARGE SCALE – A PANEL
DISCUSSION
National Conference on Ecosystem Restoration
August 1, 2013
Chicago, IL
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Objectives of Session
• Independent science in the PRRIP
• Panelist introductions – involvement with PRRIP, other systems,
take-home lessons
• 2-3 “burning” questions
• Audience questions and interaction
• Summarize key take-home points in real time
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"You don't think of knowledge as a
curse, but it's a curse if I think you
know everything I know and I talk to
you in ways [where] you can't
understand me," Alda said. "So
that's not only the public, that's
policy makers like Congress, who
have told me over and over again
they cannot understand scientists
who come in to talk to them."
"So a scientist comes in, testifies
on Capitol Hill, Congress doesn't
know what he or she's talking
about?" said Smith.
"Why would you give money to
somebody whose work you don't
understand?" Alda asked.
CBS Sunday Morning
April 21, 2013
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Rigorous approach for designing and implementing management actions
to maximize learning about critical uncertainties that affect decisions,
while simultaneously striving to meet multiple management objectives.
Adaptive Management – What is it?
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PRRIP Structure
Operations
Finance
Committee
Oversight Committee
Executive Director
&
Staff
Advisory Committees
- Land Advisory
- Water Advisory- Technical Advisory
- ISAC
- Ad Hoc
Technical Advice
EA Manager
(USFWS)
Guidance/Coordination
- Environmental Account
Committee (EAC)
- Reservoir Coordinating
Committee (RCC)
Land Interest
Holding Entity
Administrative Support
Financial
Mgmt Entity
Contractors Project Sponsors - Water
Operations/Implementation
Governance Committee
Project Sponsors - Land
Coordination
& Integration
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Platte River, July 2012
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Excellent AM science gets implemented
David Marmorek – my mixed experience with
independent peer review panels
Responsiveness of Panel to Program
High
High
Low
Low
Responsiveness of Program to
Panel
Independent Panelist
Platte 2009-13
Program Scientist
Trinity River 05-09
Killer Whales 2011-12
EPA acid rain 1985, 87, 88
EPA acid rain 1986
Fraser R sockeye 2010-11
Puget Sound 2008-12
Florida Everglades 2008, 10
Snake R dams 1995-2000
OR forestry 2006
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ESSA 8
Focus on Learning Objectives
basic research
conventional management
High
High
Low
Low
adaptive management
Focus on Management
Objectives
Birds
Engineering Fish
Get the right people on the Panel who
understand restoration and AM
Sediment
Eco-hydraulics
Expt’l Design
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Focused Panel feedback accelerates AM
learning, improves efficiency
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ESSA 10
Frequency of Meeting
Short (< 2 yrs) Lack of corporate
memory High (> 3x/yr) Too cozy; inefficient
Long (> 5 yrs) Anchoring; group think
Low (< 1x/yr) Out of touch; slow feedback
Happy Medium
Panel residence
time
Intermediate frequency of meeting and Panel
residence time
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Dave’s take home messages
• Get right mix of disciplines, AM experience, personalities on the Panel
• Maximize Panel responsiveness to Program: – Extensive dialogue; not just arms length review – Dialogue in field >> Dialogue in a room – Program gives Panel focused questions to review – Intermediate meeting frequency, Panel residence time
• Maximize Program responsiveness to Panel: – Panel reports to the decision makers / bosses – Formal response to Panel’s comments – Commitment and resources to act
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David Galat
Myths of Independent Science
Science is all Knowing
"Carnac the Magnificent”
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Science is objective
Myths of Independent Science
Scott et al. 2007.Conservation Biology 21(1) Policy Advocacy in Science: Prevalence, Perspectives, and Implications for Conservation Biologists
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So, why have Science Panels?
Inform policy makers, stakeholders and the public of options using the best available knowledge that will contribute to their making effective environmental decisions
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• University Professor of Statistics, Iowa State University
• Focus on ecological and environmental statistics, but overall
program is to develop appropriate statistical methods to answer
interesting biological questions. Work in many areas of biology
and agriculture.
• Performing statistical review for NOAA on the Deepwater
Horizon damage assessment.
• “Outside” independent scientist: PRIPP
Philip Dixon
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Monitoring and Decision Making
• Some thoughts on increasing the usefulness of monitoring.
• Stimulated by Gitzen et al., 2012, Design and Analysis of
Long-Term Ecological Monitoring Studies.
• Four roles (influenced by Kendall and Moore’s chapter)
– Assess state prior to a decision or action
– After decision/action, to assess progress towards objectives
– Learn about the system (how well did current models work?)
– Revise or develop new system models
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Monitoring and Decision Making
• More accurate (more precise and less biased) answers
provide the opportunity for better decisions.
• Get more accurate answers by:
– Larger sample size, especially at appropriate scales
– Planning requires information on sources and magnitudes of
variability.
– Reducing partial observability
(imperfect detection or incomplete season)
– Monitoring quantities that allow you to choose among competing
models.
• Avoid the common “too much” or “too little” errors:
– Too many questions, no focus
– Insufficient sample size
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• Research hydrologist, branch chief of River Studies,
with USGS, Columbia, Missouri.
• Background in geomorphology, habitat dynamics,
river restoration, endangered and invasive species.
• “Inside scientist” on the Missouri River Restoration
Program
• “Outside” independent scientist, Upper Mississippi
River, Platte River Recovery Program, Hinkson
Creek urban stream panel.
Robb Jacobson
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TIER 1 EECs
TIER 2 EECs
NATURAL
SYSTEM
FRAMEWORK
AND FLUXES
ACHIEVE
OBJECTIVES AND
MEET CRITERIA?
NO,
RE-SCOPE
OBJECTIVES
NO
MEASURES
HISTORICAL CHANGES AFFECTING CURRENT
STATE
RESTORATON
ACTION
ACHIEVABLE
OBJECTIVES?
YES, BUT NEED
TO RE-DESIGN OR
REFINE PROJECT
ENDPOINT REPORT
CARD
CLIMATE BIOGEOGRAPHYPHYSIOGRAPHY
Habitat
Biota
SUCCESS
YES
SUSTAINED
PERFORMANCE
MONITORING
RANKOBJECTIVE ACTION
DESIGN AND
IMPLEMENTATION
PROCESS
TIER 3 EECs
Social-
Economic
Benefits
Social-
Economic
Values
SCIENTISTS
MANAGERS
STAKE-
HOLDERS
DECISION MAKING
FRAMEWORK
LEGAL/POLICYSOCIALECONOMIC
NATURAL DRIVERS SOCIAL-ECONOMIC DRIVERS
OBJECTIVES
INDEPENDENT
SCIENCE
REVIEW &
EDUCATION
$$
$$
“UNPLANNED”
RESOURCE
USE
HARD
CHANNEL
CONSTRAINTS
RELATE TO
REFERENCE
CONDITIONS,
SUCCESS
CRITERIA
Channel
Morphology
and
Hydraulics
Sediment
Transport
Biogeochem-
istryHydrology
HYDROLOGIC
REGIME
BIOGEOCHEM.
REGIME
SEDIMENT
REGIME
GENETIC
REGIME
TEMPERATURE
REGIME
LIGHT
REGIME
ACRE-FT,
KILOWATT HOURS,
FLOOD MAPS
...
MONETARY
REVENUE
MEASURES
CHANNEL DIMENSIONS
SEDIMENT TRANSPORT
ENVIRONMENTAL FLOW
COMPONENTS
DO, PH, ORGANIC FLUX
...
WEIGHTED USABLE
AREA OF LIMITING
HABITAT
...
POPULATION METRICS,
AGE AND GROWTH,
COMMUNITY METRICS,
HEALTH, INTEGRITY
...
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Natural Drivers,
Fluxes, Regimes
Social-
Economic, Legal
Drivers
Management
Action
Riverine
Ecosystem
Performance
Measures
Assessment
Governance,
Decision Making,
Design
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RANK OBJECTIVE ACTION
Inside
Scientists
Managers
Stake-
holders OBJECTIVES
(Ideal) Decision Making and Governance Framework
Group think
Outside
Independent
Science
Review
$$
$$
Perception of
funding biases
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• Outside perspective is complementary to strong inside
science expertise, especially when inside science is
transparent, policy neutral, perceived as credible.
• Structure that encourages communication will get the most
out of the independent review and vice versa => learning is
one of the motivators of outside reviewers.
• Scope of independent science may extend beyond science
review to broader aspects of how science interacts with
program.
A Few Bullets:
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Who is John Nestler? PhD, Research Ecologist – Corps – ERDC 27+ years (Retired)
Independent Contractor – 3+ years
Specialty – Ecohydraulics, 60 Peer Pubs + 100 professional Pubs
Science Advisory / Review Panels Experience: 1) Review Panel – Bay-Delta Program (2012-present)
2) Independent Science Advisory Panel - Platte River Recovery Implementation
Program (2009-2013)
3) Review Panel – Chaglla Project – Huallaga River - Peru (2012)
4) Science Panel - Upper Mississippi River System (2003-2010)
5) Fish Passage & Hydropower Advisory Panel for the Mekong River Commission
(2008),Vientiane, Lao Peoples Democratic Republic (2008)
6) Scientific Review Panel, Central Valley Project Improvement Act Program (2008)
7) Advisory Board National Science Foundation CLEANER Program (2006-2007)
8) Science Advisory Panel, Interstate Commission, Potomac River Basin (2000-
2002)
9) Coastal Louisiana Ecosystem Assessment & Restoration, Louisiana Coastal
Area (2004-2006)
10) Protocol Evaluation Panel, Grand Canyon Monitoring and Research Center
Integrated Water Quality Program (2000 –2001)
11) Missouri River Consortium of Benthic Fishes (1995-1997)
12) Technical Specialists Panel for the Hidrovia Navigation Project (Brazil,
Argentina, Bolivia, Paraguay, and Uruguay) - Buenos Aires, Argentina (1996)
13) Select Scientific Review Committee, Roanoke River-Albemarle Sound Striped
Bass Restoration Program (1990-1991)
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Build Plan Design
ER (by CE) uses Traditional WR Planning
Build infrastructure Hates uncertainty
Schedule Driven
Budget Compliant
Expected Env.
Outcomes Not
Achieved -
Uncertainty!
Observe Hypothesize Collect Data Infer
Scientific Method
Scientific Discovery Embraces Unknown
Schedule averse
Budget averse
Plan
Design
Build
Variation of
the Scientific
Method
Traditional
WR Planning
Monitor Collect Data
Assess (Inference)
Monitor Collect Data Hypothesize
Assess Infer
Plan Design
Build
Monitor Collect Data
Hypothesize
Assess Infer
Plan
Design
Build
Monitor Collect Data
Assess Infer
Plan
Design
Build
Where Does AM Come from----Really?
Often a Passionate, but Dysfunctional Marriage
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AM Component Legacies - Path Forward
Assume: Understanding
Important
Build knowledge
Goal – Discovery
Hypothesis
Statistical inference
Scientific Method =
Empiricism Traditional WR
Planning = Determinism
Goal – Infrastructure
Constructed
Natural
Assume: Understanding not
Important - Performance Driven
Science Panel Job #1 – Optimally Assign &
Integrate Issues to Empiricism vs Determinism
-> Minimize Number of AM Loops:
Schedule & Budget
Scientific Understanding
Benefits to Society
I’m Just a Marriage Counselor –
Let’s Work Together for the Kids!
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“And, in the end, the love you take is equal to the love you make.”
Paul McCartney
The answers you get are only as good as the questions you ask.
The value you receive is proportional to the investment you make.
Kent Loftin
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• If you create a science panel, make your commitment
worthwhile…it is a lot of work and the effort should bring
benefits.
• Be sure all parties are clear about the purpose of the panel.
• Ensure adequate funding and management commitment.
• Budget enough time to allow the panel to meet regularly and
become familiar with each other, the project team, and
management.
• Consider using a interdisciplinary mix of knowledgeable
specialists and generalists.
• Provide time for the panel to work together but away from the
project team.
• Require the panel to document its work and update its views
over time.
Possible Discussion Questions How is your science panel formed/ members selected? What is the best process for doing this? How/how often does your Program engage with your independent science panel? (advisory, review at arm’s length) How do you deal with turnover and try to avoid “group-think”? How do you handle responsive of a Program to input from an independent science panel? How does the science panel interact with both the technical representatives of a program and the decision-makers? What is the motivation for people to serve on a science panel, and how do you maintain that motivation and satisfaction?
Kent Loftin
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• Challenge the panel to address your concerns.
• Allow stakeholders some access to the panel.
• Learn from the experiences of the panelists.
• Install a strong leader of the panel or provide a facilitator as
needed.
• Take the panel on field trips.
• Arrange that the panelist, the project staff, and management
interact outside of formal meetings, even on unrelated
coincidental events.
• Provide avenues for panel feedback to be promulgated.
• Clearly state whether panel findings and recommendations can
or will be embraced or implemented or not.
• Foster two-way learning.
• Have fun!
Kent Loftin
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Kent Loftin
Oh my god, this is the last thing I need, a panel of experts!
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Burning Questions
1) What is the right approach – advisory, or review at arm’s length?
2) How often should an independent science panel engage with a program?
3) Thoughts on turnover and avoiding “group-think”.
4) Thoughts on responsiveness of a program to input from an independent
science panel.
5) Thoughts on interacting with both the technical representatives of a
program and the decision-makers.
6) What is the motivation for people to serve on a science panel, and how do
you maintain that motivation and satisfaction?
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Take-Home Messages – Audience Input
• ?
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Thanks!