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What are the most notable trends in HR
you’ve seen over the last few years?
Jason: The one thing I notice straight away is
it’s not called HR anymore. There’s PeopleOps,
People and Culture, etc. but I think it’s healthy
we’re just talking about it. The other piece is
now these teams are getting their hands dirty
and using platforms and tools themselves
rather than contracting an outside service
provider.
Steve: One of the things I’ve noticed is the
real-time nature of business today. Everything
moves now. If we aren’t ready today and to
address everything we need to immediately,
we’re failing. There’s an expectation for
immediacy now.
Sheila: I think one change we’re seeing is
the lack of HR struggling to get a seat at the
table. It’s now a mentality from the rest of the
business telling HR to “Hurry up, get here, we
need you.”
David: I think Glassdoor is a huge change for
employers. The veil of what it’s like to work at
your company has been lifted and it’s all in one
place. Whereas previously it was somewhat
of a myth and a mystery, now it’s pretty
transparent.
How are HR teams using data now?
Will that change in the future? Any
benchmarks you anticipate?
Jason: There’s obviously some very
sophisticated measurements out there but I’ve
noticed most companies are really just trying
to get the basics in place. A lot of companies
just need a direction and to collect the data so
that it can be used to help guide decisions. In
terms of benchmarks, I think the goal should
be balance.
Steve: Whether you’re a small company or
a Fortune 100 brand, I’ll always ask this one
question: Does your data drive decisions? If
that isn’t the case, why are we doing this? I’ve
been at a lot of companies where they just
collect data because they can and don’t benefit
from it. Going beyond that though, you have to
think analytically. It’s not just taking some big
survey tool off the shelf and implementing it
but taking a step back, evaluating the problem,
and thinking through the entire process.
Sheila: I think that’s what will come out now
though. There’s so much data out there now
around things that were previously hard to
measure and now we can connect those dots
and find correlations we didn’t have before.
Exploring the Future of HRUdemy invited five industry leaders to discuss the trends and landscape of HR, People Analytics, and Talent Acquisition
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HR Leaders
Shelby WolpaDirector of HRInstacart
Steve McElfreshVP of People Operations New Relic
Jason McPhersonChief ScientistCultureAmp
Sheila RyanVP of Global HRGlu Mobile
David HanrahanVP of HRZendesk
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What’s your philosophy on performance reviews? What role
will they play in the future?
David: I have three bold predictions for the future of performance
reviews. Pay-for-performance is a philosophy that most companies
have adopted or at least say they do. But pay-for-performance
doesn’t make sense for cognitive roles where there isn’t a physical
transaction so I think we’re going to see that replaced by a pay-for-
engagement model. Number two, performance and engagement
tools will merge so that managers can track the data from their
engagement surveys and marry it to performance metrics.
Lastly, performance reviews will be centered on text analysis.
You have these 360-reviews, self-reviews, etc. but then you have
this mountain of text just sitting there. We’ll leverage cognitive
linguistics and machine-learning technology and bring them into
HR for a richer analysis.
What are your thoughts on the contingent workforce as
contractors and freelancers become much more prevalent?
How do you preserve culture?
Steve: I’ve been tempted to rename of our Talent Acquisition function
to Labor Supply Chain because we have a choice to either work with
just employees, a shrinking subset in most organizations, or we can
become experts in the supply of labor.
Sheila: I think I would define it differently because the paradigm is
shifting and it’s an old notion that employees are with you forever.
When we have contractors and temps, they’re still part of the
organization. Now how they get paid and how the government views
them is different but if I kept those employees at an arm’s length like
the Department of Labor wants, it wouldn’t help us reach our goals.
helping the larger workforce.
David: In a prior life we were trying to implement a parental leave
policy globally that simply didn’t discriminate at all. So we asked
ourselves what would happen if it also applied to all our contract
labor so we took the risk since we were relatively small at the time.
There was no impact on the overall business and it worked out great.
What do you think the future learning environment will look
like?
Steve: It seems so obvious but I’ll say it anyways. It’s this incredible
flexibility of building robust learning programs with tools like Udemy
in a day or two and then deliver the content to people in real time
when they need it. There’s still a purpose for the traditional classroom
but it’s just not the focal point for learning anymore.
Jason: Learning and development is so important that it’s probably
the most consistent driver of engagement and will never go away.
I can’t recall the last time I saw data that pointed to Learning &
Development not being a driver in an organization.
To close things out, I’d love it if each of you can share one
takeaway, tip, or tool that will impact HR in the next 3-5
years.
Steve: Not to pander to our sponsors but the absolute essential
message is to never stop learning. I believe there are two kinds of
people in the workforce: those who are in transition and those who
are in denial. If you aren’t constantly trying to develop, you’re lagging
behind.
Jason: I’d probably extend that further since I think in People and
Culture, you now have to get your hands dirty and learn how to use
tools and platforms instead of just outsourcing.
Sheila: In HR we have to be flexible because our workforce is
changing, the world around us is changing, and the only way to keep
up is by coming to these kinds of events and discussing techniques
with each other and to stay on top of these trends.
David: My favorite all-time stat comes from Saratoga Institute who
studied 19,000 exit interviews, asking why the person left and then
talking to the manager and asking why they think the person left.
89% of employers, i.e. the manager, said the employee left for more
money and the reality when you asked the person was only 12%
said it was for more money. The dominoes that fell ahead of that
were learning, liking the manager and team, growth, and belief in the
product. It’s not just salaries but also a focus on learning and growth.
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