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GROWING THE LANDLORD TENANT RELATIONSHIPCollaborating for More Sustainable Retail Outcomes
October 14, 2011Cathy Edens and Patrick Leonard, PaladinoAdam Siegel, RILARudy Milian, ICSC
Session Objectives
• Clarify the market and business context for greater landlord/retailer collaboration around sustainable retail store buildings and operations
• Share progress in developing guidance resources for industry
• Gather feedback/ideas/resources from attendees to improve outputs
Agenda
10:30 – 11:15 - Topic/Issue Context
11:15 – 12:00 Energy and Waste Zones Break Out (lunch)
12:00 – 12:30 Green Lease Discussion
12:30 – 1:00 Final Discussion and Adjourn
Industry Context
Sustainability as an Investor Preference
Sustainability as a Tenant and Customer Attractor
Sustainability as Competitive Differentiator
Industry Context
How can retailers and landlords better collaborate to transform the industry towards
greater sustainability?
Discovery Method
• Interviews to understand
what participants prioritize and what they would like to do next
• Resource scan to identify
what is available to support both groups
• Media scan as a
representation of prevalent market thinking
Finding #1: Retail industry sustainability in facilities follows a predictable transformation pattern
Acknowledged Challenges
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Retailer Internal Challenges
Landlord Internal Challenges
Shared Challenges
• Low utility usage visibility
• Cross functional fragmentation
• Business case models aren’t aligned to sustainability measures
• Cost and return misalignment
• Fragmented needs
• Lack of successful models
• Responsibility unclear
• Poor communication between parties
• Perception of lack of customer demand for green
• Lack of internal communication channels
• Low scalability of programs
• Cross functional fragmentation
MARKET FACTORS
Limiters and Drivers
• “Somewhere behind the scene, there’s a bank……(regarding rooftop solar)”
• “Our business case period is so short, nothing pays back that fast.”
• “I manage sustainability in addition to my first role, so I don’t spend as much time as I should (on it).”
• “Design and construction reports up differently than real estate, so we don’t really talk much (to determine green lease needs)
• “Our tax status as a REIT makes it harder to do some (sustainable) things we know we want to do.”
Small
• “Utility costs are not our greatest expense, so why bother?”
• “Our waste stream is too small to negotiate recycling contracts separately from the mall.”
• “We don’t have the reverse logistics, back of house to be able to do anything on our own like the larger stores.”
• “At our size it (sustainability) just doesn’t pencil out, but a co-op model sponsored by the landlord could work.”
• “Aligning all these small tenants can be like herding cats.”
Large• “We don’t have too many issues doing what we want, because we manage
most programs ourselves.”
• “Our waste stream is large enough we manage it 75% of the time, and the other 25% its part of CAM.”
• “The landlord controls the common area, but not the space we’re under, so we do whatever we can that doesn’t require a landlord signature.”
• “A whole lot of these (mall wide strategies) have very little interest to the larger retailers that would need to be on board to make it pencil out.”
An Integrated Platform
Strategic Direction
Program Management
Resource Efficiency Program Implementation
1. How should customers experience sustainability in stores?2. What role does it play in our strategic business approach?3. Should it be driven through innovation or evolution?
1. How are costs for green integrated?2. Are green strategies best managed independently by landlord
and tenant or holistically together?
1. How are resource opportunities best maximized?2. What role do green building rating systems play?
Visioning – Coming TogetherLandlords
Robert Albert, Property Manager (Retail)
Vornado Realty Trust
Joe Jaworski, RPA, FMA, VP, National Operations
Westfield, LLC
Judith Knop, Senior Development Manager (Retail)
Vornado Realty Trust
Jeffrey Nash, Director of National Operations
General Growth Properties, Inc.
Mark Peternell, LEED AP, Vice President, SustainabilityRegency Centers
Scott W. Price, SCSM, Vice President of Property ManagementThe Rappaport Companies
Sukanya Paciorek, LEED AP O+M, Vice President -Corporate Sustainability
Vornado Realty Trust
Will S. Teichman, Director of SustainabilityKimco Realty Corporation
Jill Ziegler, LEED AP, Sustainability Program Manager
Forest City Enterprises, Inc.
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Retailers
Hugh CherneSenior Manager, Environmental Sustainability TeamBest Buy Corporation
Trish KenlonEnergy and Sustainability ManagerAnn Taylor
Debra JamesWal-mart
Kristin RockEnergy ManagerPETCO
Letitia WebsterGlobal Corporate Sustainability VF Corporation World Headquarters
Brendan SullivanVice President - RetailVF Corporation World Headquarters
David HughesGroup Manager for Energy & Carbon ManagementTarget
Example
BaconHow should bacon be integrated
into dessert foods like donuts, cookies and cupcakes?
Selectively Liberally
Measuring Preferences
13 sliders in 3 categories:
• Strategic direction
• Program approach
• Resource management
Example Slider Topics
• How is water/energy/waste best managed? Independently or holistically?
• How is sustainability best practice integrated into the deal structure? As an exception, or as a given?
• How will market transformation towards greener outcomes occur? Internalized or provided?
• How are green costs integrated? Value add or cost add?
Voting Dots
Landlords
Where we are today
Where we want to be
Retailers
Where we are today
Where we want to be
Shared Priorities
1. ENERGY EFFICIENCY
• Shared visibility• Renewable energy• High performance building design
2. WASTE MANAGEMENT• Tracking and measuring• Recycling
3. AGREEMENTS• Green lease• Sustainability guidelines (Exhibit D)• Retailer’s Green Guidance
Resource Kits for Industry
Communicate
Formalize
Supplement
Reduce
Measure
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Communicate with and educate stakeholders through plans and other tools
Formalize through business case models, programs, lease language and other guidance
Supplement with external sources/solutions
Reduce consumption through holistic programs
Track and measure at the store level to understandopportunities
CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE
• Energy Usage Shared Visibility– Sharing energy consumption data is a key priority for the group as an
enabler for greater sustainability and financial opportunities
• Renewable Energy
• High Performance Building Design
Energy (& Water!) Needs
• Retailers– Monitor & control energy spend & consumption at portfolio level– Track progress against baselines, benchmarks & goals (energy, GHG)– Gain visibility & justify the value of energy efficiency improvement
projects – Confirm fair and accurate payment
• Landlords– Utility pricing increase risk shared with retailer, – Track progress against baselines, benchmarks & goals (energy, GHG)– Create opportunity for tenant value adds: benchmarking against
others on property, other sites etc– Gain understanding of tenant load profile
Value Proposition
Resource Kit Components
– User instructions
– Context
– Utility Monitoring Program 101
– Scenarios & Solutions
– Case Studies
– Expected results (ROI, other benefits)
Issues Solutions
1. Request estimated consumption data
2. Install monitoring onlysub meters
3. Include data provision in Green Work letter/future leases
Landlord prevented from installing utility sub meters by code
x
Utility data is metered, Landlord disincentivized fromproviding actual usage
x x x
Scenarios & Solutions Matrix
• New recycling programs where they do not exist
• Stronger recycling programs where they already exist
• Systems for tracking store-level recycling
Recycling Needs
• Retailers– Lower operating expense costs– Satisfy employee and consumer demand for recycling– Help achieve sustainability goals– Positive public relations
• Landlords– Lower costs / new revenue streams– Provide additional amenity to tenants– Code complicity / compliance in some jurisdictions– Reduce eco-impacts– Help achieve sustainability goals
Value Proposition
Resource Kit Components
– Value Proposition
– Questions to consider
– Case Studies of shopping centers
– Suggested program elements
– Expected program results
– Implementation steps
I. BREAK OUT SESSIONS
11:15-12:00 (LUNCH)
• Two topics, 1-3 tables each:– Energy Zone (Patrick and Maggie)
– Waste Zone (Ben, Cathy)
12:00-12:30 (AFTER LUNCH)
• Two topics, 2-3 tables each:– Model Green Lease (Cathy, Rudy)
– Retailer’s Green Guidance (Patrick, Ben)
• A starting place for discussing shared approaches
• A way to identify retailer and landlord sustainability needs within the agreement process
• A model example to serve as guidance for both landlords and retailers
Green Lease Needs
• Retailers
– Engage internal stakeholders such as real estate and legal on green needs
– Help internal stakeholders communicate green needs to landlords– Gain visibility to landlord provided programs and features and
expectations– Provide a starting place for discussions with landlords
• Landlords
– Demonstrate green commitment to potential tenants– Describe property green features and programs to prospective tenants
and the community– Clearly state expectations for retailer participation– Provide a starting place for discussions with tenants
Value Proposition
The Retailer’s Green Guidance
• Translates CSR commitments to the built environment
• Tells internal groups how store performance is optimized
• Identifies opportunities for discussion with landlords