archived as http://www.stealthskater.com/Documents/GLP_03.doc

more of Dan Burisch is at http://www.stealthskater.com/Burisch.htm

note: because important websites are frequently "here today but gone tomorrow", the following was archived from

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/bbs/message.php?message=258062&PHPSESSID=1aded18a18eda85c91431be4bb7b0372 on March 3, 2004. This is NOT an attempt to divert readers from the aforementioned website. Indeed, the reader should only read this back-up copy if it cannot be found at the original author's site.

misc. Dan Burisch postings on the GLP board - Vol-3 full un-edited and non-exerpted posts are at the referenced URL

(continued from Volume 2 - http://www.stealthskater.com/Documents/GLP_02.doc …)

(1002) Howler 2/5/2004 11:30 am Just repeating what i posted earlier as it may have been "lost" in the vol 3 update etc..

1. Re- post from 'Peace.'. I assume anyway (assumptions are a dangerous territory to walk!) that it was just a mute point on your referencing of comms. Re- Authorization Code: Maj 78, 03FEB04 06:17:53 GMT)" Perhaps your MAJI works in wondrous ways, a mix of Military and "gov" section, hence the confusing DTG (Date Time Group) on your messages. Normally the above would be: 03061753Z Feb04 . Military never use the phrase "GMT" only "all times Zulu" hence Z. (Zulu for those who wish to know is general military term for GMT or UTC) Standard NATO garble etc. unless they are not sending to Langley. hmmm...lol As I say a mute point, but would be interested why the above ref. .they sound as confused as the rest on this thread, LOL Howler & Co

2nd PS to 'Peace'-- If you are able to comms with Dan B, inform him that we will have serious feedback and constructive questions and comments on his micro research by the weekend. The latest protocol updates are being viewed by PhD geneticists and viral specialists, a few who have an interest in this field and are open to any research that will advance the understanding of our genome origins and assist in eradicating genetic disorders 'Ambilac' will leave info here

(1003) JohnHenderson 2/5/2004 1:04 pm EST

Peace 2/5/2004 5:32 am :

Mr. Dondep:

I should be explanatory in saying that the first posting with this 'name' was a friend of mine and not me. It appears that a bellower may take both as mine, so I have clarified.

You should be made aware that a letter of warning was received, properly formatted, which was the causation for my writing you. The text follows.

"It has been noted that a certain public Internet chat-forum has attempted contact with Maj person H-6196 (Preserve Destiny-Staar Flower-Lotus; U.S.).

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The research has been assigned a completion date. Further attempts to breach security will be nullified. The leader of this group is assigned F5, documents accompany. No contact is to be allowed or facilitated to the same. Violations of Maj personnel will be dealt with in the most strict sense. (Authorization Code: Maj 78, 03FEB04 06:17:53 GMT)"

This type of announcement is a stunner and a real stick in the mud to anyone attempting a breach.

Simply put, my boy: you have more of a chance of authenticating a message from Houdini, than reaching Dr. Burisch. It is time to pause, turn around, and make the best of things.

Someone, with enough power to say, appears not to like you.

Peace.

John Henderson here: It is just sick that the PTB -- who are attempting to save the whole world from destruction -- cannot use the English language. I assumed that "Smokie" and the other security personnel were dumb as a fence post. It looks like it goes all the way to the top. I wonder if the holy Cherubim is this dumb, in that case, perhaps even God cannot save us? Dan is certainly not that dumb.

To wit: This is a forum not a chat group. T his forum has not attempted any contact. Anyone that has done research knows that completion dates are a joke. How do you nullify something that has already happened? The leader of what group? How do you violate a Maj personnel? The most strict sense?

I'm glad that this was dated prior to me calling the security personnel "dumb as a fence post" and pointing out that disclosure works two ways.

(1004) Peace 2/5/2004 4:13 pm EST

Mr. Hamilton --

Thank you for your polite response. There is little to do with or for those that would rip and tear at a story such as this one. As you can see, we are among such ilk, presently. Some rely upon the use of attacking grammar, rather than looking at the message itself. Still others would rather focus on how apples associate with oranges. Ignore all that, their words will fall as silent as others. Ignored. No breeding, I fear. ;)

Those that have a heart-felt wish to see this story reach popularity have little care for how certain persons within the UFOgical field may view it,especially publicity hounds and aging researchers with failing following (such as one I can think of, residing in Nova Scotia). One such person once referenced a race with the grave. Sadly, he is right, but it will not be the story that fails. It is known and is as proven as will be until other proofs link to it, such as your case with Dr. Burisch.

The personalities that want disclosure know full well that it is not going to take the form of unified governments making a declaration. That is not in the cards. As was said, the truth will out! Sadly too,

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as it was once said that one cannot fool all of the people all of the time, it will not be possible to either convince or save all of the people in this complex scenario.

You are doing what must be done. You know that.

To the group or person named as 'Howler' --

I will be monitoring this (Good God! I mustn't make a mistake with the name or someone will chide me for it!....as such minutiae is all important you know?) "exchange" and whilst I cannot pass and receive with Dr. Burisch, I can certainly pass that variety of information. We are aware of 'Ambilac' and have respect for and interest in the work. I will be happy to do so. If a return of such inquiry doesn't violate the prohibitions regarding certain persons in this "exchange", I will do as possible in retrieving a reply. Of course, this takes into account that Dr. Burisch will have time to reply. I will leave that up to him.

(1005) Ambilac 2/5/2004 5:01 pm

Observations note that progress is (albeit somewhat stilted on occasions..! lol) apparently being made on many fronts.

Peace-- thank you for the interest in our work (it may transpire that Howler has now done his "bit" in the past and normal service will be resumed.. lol).

Updates as follows.

The video of Dan, BJ and Bill -- which I arranged the streaming of -- will be available for all to view -- assuming we do not receive any major objections -- within 24 hours. I will arrange both URL links to be available here and on the ambilac-uk site. (one high-band and one low-band streaming)

Secondly -- and may be more importantly -- the latest science updates and Lotus protocol research offered by Dan. The information, as mentioned previously, is being viewed as we speak by PhD geneticists who are open to related concepts and available for commentary. I expect to receive feedback and comments by the weekend. No doubt we will be passing on many questions and comments for "associated researcher" chat.

Re- so called "stargates":

I see many are still referring to that term. As explained previously, there are NO man-made "stargates" on Earth. They are known as "transporter pads" and very unstable, hence the urgency for eradication. The "shadow priests" in Iraq and elsewhere who control the "real" natural stargates are non too happy of the operation of these man-made pads.

Stargates imply access to and within star systems. The man-made pads do not come under this category and only operate within the realms of the Earth. And as I understand it, by line-of-sight -- very much like the operational methodology of VHF radio frequencies. Hence used for transportation use only - such as the tablets mentioned.(high radiation anyone!!?)

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The Iraq stargate, by the way (near Babil), has become quite a regular commuter device for Sirius of late....!!

(1006) Crackajack 2/5/2004 6:28 pm EST

To 'Peace '(I assume you are posting currently as the friend of the original 'Peace' from Vol 1) --

Thank you for updating all on the situation. Reflection time is upon us, however some developments continue in outside microbiology circles which have never been mentioned.

This can only be of value, as there now appears that real verification and research is happening on 3 fronts. (1) With Bill and Kit (as I understand); (2) with 'Ambilac' and the sources stated; and (3) with other sources.

I guess the script was already written, just hope it now plays out the way those of good intent would wish.

(1007) dondep 2/5/2004 5:56 am EST

Thank you, 'Peace'. Goes a long way toward explaining the knots in my stomach the last couple days. Funny that 'StarryEyes' had suggested I post a request for you to speak with us. "Great minds....think alike." Referring of course to her.

Could that certain someone be a certain 'Rancher'? Even a certain 'Flower'? A certain retired admiral?

Please extend our warmest thanks and humble gratitude to those that have risked much for what was given. It is more than could be expected.

"Someone, with enough power to say 'WHAT IS SECRET SHOULD REMAIN SECRET' appears not to like you." Message received, loud and clear.

(1008) Crackajack NLI 2/5/2004 8:48 pm EST

'PEACE'--

You once stated (back in Vol 1 I think) that "You know what the one member of this forum will do with the information......."

Can you now expand on that statement?

Thanks in anticipation.

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(1009) Crackajack 2/5/2004 9:33 pm EST

My apologies, 'Peace' (original),. It was not you that posted that. It was in fact 'IMINVSBL'.

You may be able to clarify anyway.

Here´s the actual text.

"J, we hate airing such laundry in public, so please acquiesce. You are aware under the timeline what the one member of this little forum will do with this information. Please, be reasonable. "

Thanks

(1010) 61 and friends 2/7/2004 2:10 am

You notice this isn't just '61' anymore. This comedy show has become syndicated. :[ ]

We're laughing at you, Dondep. It has become apparent that your Garthok has been narfled by the MAJESTIC 12.

To the 'watchin' bros.-- Meet at Sahara Saloon, in the hour, brewskies on us!

60, 61, 24, 42, 07, 17.

(1011) Ambilac 2/8/2004 5:11 pm EST

To A/C of 3:59--

The work at Ambilac for many years has been the path of truth and of serious research. However, if you look for 'Dan Burisch' listed on the menu of work, you will not find it (that is not to say that it is no importance, contrare´). We have our own main cosmic highways to follow.

We merely organised the streaming of the video in order people like yourselves may access for research purposes. I say again -- as I said before (no more repeats) -- if you wish access to the URLs for the streaming, merely mail me at the e-mail address which is clearly marked for the hard of hearing and sighting.. ambilac@canoemail.com

"Take my hand and traverse this dark spiral of cosmic wonder - for then you will see the truth in all its glory" HMJ 2004

(1012) Peace 2/8/2004 7:26 pm EST

Dear 'Ambilac' --

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Apart from those demanding information, know that I am ready to receive whatever questions/comments you have gathered when you are ready to forward them; even though we have just now (my time--as well as yours I am to understand) passed the weekend. I do have a few comments to those making suggestions that I should be the one to make the disclosure. To a certain extent I already have.

First, I already have a public track record of suggesting that the UFO issue is one of extreme defence importance. This is on several records now.

Second, I work for a branch (UK) of much larger umbrella organisation (European in nature). This branch (UK) wants worldwide disclosure, but not for the nefarious purposes of the umbrella group (European in nature). My group is working closely with a certain group (US) with Dr. Burisch is firmly allied. That umbrella group cannot confirm that I am whom that I say that I am. To that extent I remain safe, but under scrutiny.

Third, I worked for another group for many years, a quasi-public one that would have no qualms whatsoever in eliminating me should I be shown to have willingly provided information.

The information -- about a man that I have known since 1980, and known of since 1973, --is important for me to tell you. The movement of this information into "history" -- as was put by another reviewer -- is exactly what is important. I hope to do so without shortening my time on this Earth. The information -- coming from 'Ambilac' to me -- may be important enough for me to risk myself to transfer it. That is to be determined. If it reaches such a level of importance as to suggest I risk further to retrieve a reply, I will.

(1013) Anonymous Coward 2/8/2004 8:26 pm

Regarding the Ambilac site and this comment: "I posted the availability of the Dan Burisch video streaming 24 hours ago .... we received the princely number of five (5)requests ...and they were known regular posters on this forum. Now folks what does that tell you??"

It tells me that I am not the only one who doesn't like the smell of this. I thought that the video would be presented openly and available to anyone without a "catch". But there is a catch: you have to email him for permission to see it; and in so doing somewhere along-the-line you have to give up information about yourself. It might be contained in the directional headers or email address to forward to. I'm no Internet expert. I just know that I don't like the idea of my info being exchanged for a chance to view the tape.

Many people who have a burning curiosity -- like me -- are private people who want to stay that way. Many use proxy services to read this thread. Their reasons, like mine are personal, and deserve respect. That's why there are so many A/C posters.

Sorry, but it looks to me like another bait-and-switch.

I was patient, and for what? It's just like the way this thread has been going:

"wait for it, wait, wait some more, it´s coming soon, it´s almost here, here it is, OOOOPS, no you can´t have it unless you dance to my tune first".

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I don't like it. And judging by how many (or how few) requests you have gotten for the video, it looks like I am not alone.

(1013) Peace 2/9/2004 3:02 am EST

Thank you for your discretion regarding my name. Yes, it would prove counterproductive and limit the already short amount of time that I will have here. It would also prove quite tedious to field a constant stream of denials.

In answer to some questions…

Not all of the MAJICfolk are against disclosure. Quite the contrary. Many on the working panel are looking forward to the day when they can retire from the majority of their covert activities.

The quasi-public group -- of which I spoke -- was that area where I maintained my official employment. The F5 is a code -- removed from the US tornado scale -- for the most destructive "twister". Yes, you were" maneuvered" into contact with Dr. Burisch, no doubt to that.

In fact, it is my understanding that the gentleman for whom the name' IMINVSBL' was applied has passed away. Just a moment before doing so, I understand that he experienced a "fall from grace". I trust you understand my meaning.

I will do what I can in all this, but that is somewhat limited. Yet, I will do what I can.

(1014) dondep 2/11/2004 5:29 am EST

Does this mean my death warrant was just signed? What am I to make of this?

(1015) Anonymous Coward 2/11/2004 5:33 am EST

All GLP group. Alert status. backup plan initiated. All information collected by truthseekers has been auto distributed to the 327 sources, with instructions. Stand by for further updates.

(1016) 'J' 2/11/2004 5:42 am EST

Human Subject and Mr. Don Deppeller--

At 0600 ET this date, a decision will take effect concerning Danny Burisch and information concerning him being distributed to your kind participants. It has been agreed upon -- by people that you will sadly never meet -- that all information flow about him will be ceased … permanently. Dr. Burisch will not be harmed, nor will anyone else involved with your participants' investigation of him. I know that some of you have had concerns in that area. Put them to rest, please. The disclosure of information concerning Dr. Burisch may be categorized by each as you may. The information itself

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has done its job and its impact has assisted in affirming a particular road. What is that, you may ask? The road to peace.

I would like to apologize for the more rude individuals that you have come across during these last few months. Many of our employees are -- shall we say -- less "cultured" than others. They will be reminded of their position and extreme privilege of being involved in our business.

Why write you and tell you this? Quite simple. If any informant comes to you regarding him from 0600 on, that individual is either acting for evil purposes or is just a liar.

My best wishes go out to all members of this so-called “fringe” community. You are true fighters for the truth! We -- more than most -- can appreciate that!

The best wishes of a small group of individuals is also extended to you both. Carry on and God Bless you.

J

To all Units- the bell has sounded.

(1017) Peace 2/11/2004 5:45 am EST

'Peace' to 'J' --

Kind sir, thank you for the announcement. Time for the Doctor to wander the sides of crystal pools of light.

The children have received the message. Peace to All and May God Bless and keep humanity!

(1018) Unit Numbers 2/11/2004 5:48 am EST

All Units sounded.

(1019) Ravens 2/11/2004 5:50 am EST

“ALL” Ravens sounded.

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(1020) LOTUS 2/11/2004 5:52 am EST

LOTUS SURV SOUNDED. WHY DO WE HAVE TO WRITE THIS ON THIS DAMN THREAD?

(1021) Light 1 2/11/2004 5:53 am EST

Count down with grace, people. No further. Remember-- history.

(1022) Watchers 2/11/2004 5:58 am EST

God Bless Dr. Danny B Catselas Burisch. Thank you.

(1023) dondep 2/11/2004 6:21 am EST

To 'J' --

Thank you. Finally. Thank you for your kind words, and for the understanding we have that somehow we have apparently played a valuable and worthy role for peace. I would hope that extends to a better future for humanity as well, that the knowledge Danny wanted the world to know can now be told quietly to the other “interested few” in the world who are as much truthseekers as we have tried to be.

It also appears that the rest of the cast has been given their curtain call. Especially our beloved 'Ravens'. Thanks … and God Bless to all.

PS: Does this mean we will still get our copies of Eagles Disobey? Maybe even autographed if not asking too much? Thanking you in advance.

(1024) Crackajack 2/11/2004 6:55 am EST

WHOA!! What a night/morning. Still coming down here ;) It would appear the “show” as we know it, is over. A new dawn commences.

Thank you to all the team members, 'AC's, regulars, visitors, friendly insiders, professionals, courteous authority figures, and of course those 'Raven's ;) A good time for peaceful reflection by all, a

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good time to remember the wonderful Dr Burisch and his work for humanity, and a good time to NEVER forget those Human Subjects.

I have lived and learned much. However sadly, it is a mere drop in the ocean. The search for truth is imbedded in all of us, and the will to survive is inherent. Whatever part each poster has played in this amazing “project”, I can only hope it is for the benefit of humanity.

Peace and Love to you and yours.

(1025) dondep 2/13/2004 2:02 am EST

To the 'AC' that posted this--

"BURISCH NOT IN COURT? IF DONDEP DOESN´T CHANGE HIS TACTIC FROM ACTION TO MAKING THE CHILDREN WRITE SUMMARIES- STILL POSSIBLE DON´T YOU THINK? WE NEED TO KNOW IF HE (BURISCH) IS STILL IN VEGAS."

Shhhhhhhhhhh… Many things were set in motion before the proclamation by 'J'. My thanks to 'J' were sincere, as were the rest of my comments. Also, it's pretty clear there was no need to remove Dan from the Sunchase.

As far as writing summaries go, it may not appeal to your prurient and short attention span, but it was only a suggestion on my part and I stand by it. What makes the 2 dozen-or-so on the team -- give-or-take depending on people's schedules -- most effective is precisely the fact we are NOT ´ufers´, at least professional ones. Sure, we hold those people in respect or in some cases disdain (to varying degrees) but we are merely average humans. We could be someone's brother, sister, mother, father, etc; we are 'children' of Earth. Nothing to be ashamed of.

Another interesting fact; our 'team' of 'core people' seems evenly divided between citizens of Illuminati-controlled nations and MAJI-controlled nations. Evenly divided by geography and gender too. Any of the 'interested few' of the public should be able to relate to at least one of us, certainly. And yes, we WILL go on to tell this story. So, Dan will not be harmed, we will not be harmed, and we will get no more than we have gotten.

Were we a "project"? Good question. Even if we were, we seemed to have done something right somewhere. And the story isn't over yet. Just the show. If the day comes that Dan can meet one of us for a beer or even coffee at Starbucks -- on his own whim -- that is the day the mystery is solved for me. Or even better, the day the public is aware of the miracle of the Lotus and its Ganesh Particle is the day the mystery would be finally solved. The story, if we do this right, has enough content to show the reality of what Dan has spoken of, although no single piece can be extracted and held up as ´absolute proof´.

In the meantime, what would you recommend? Careful now … as said earlier, some things were set into motion before this abrupt finale. It could mean a lot, or nothing at all. Maybe only end up as yet one more drip of ridicule. … … … …

And John Henderson-- thanks for inquiring. I have had at least one good night´s rest. I should also add that even though you think people here don't listen to you, you know that I do. I even brought up the Rife Scope with Dan, and I think it was helpful to have had that conversation. I will agree with you to

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an extent that most of the PTB have been misled by ET, at least the ones they chose to speak to and have become locked in a fatal embrace with.

But the 'Yellow Book' is a very real device, IMHO. It may not work in the way it is feared, but would tend to utilize a more sophisticated technology that is closer to the extended weather forecasts we have had in recent years (which STILL fail us). Some events may be a foregone conclusion, such as celestial events that are beyond the capability of any 3D tech to change, and some events simply take existing trends and -- based on probabilities of choices by the relevant humans -- weave them into the most ´probable´ scenario. Again, just my opinion. I add that because there are some that seem vehemently against the idea that time travel (and consequently knowing what will happen in the future) is possible. As we learned from 'IMINVSBL', it is the most plausible explanation for the MiB activity.

(1027) dondep 2/14/2004 12:10 am EST

'Publius', you ask "Is Dan of the opinion that hell and high water are inevitable in this time-line?"

In my first interview with him, he stated he had seen "a hologram of the future" and had no need of faith anymore. However, he went on to say that if he so much as breathed a word about certain specifics, he could inadvertently change the timeline. He has stated on numerous occasions that the Catastrophe is supposed to occur on or about the end of December, 2012. But he claims that it may be averted.

Such as, "… inevitable that Pine Gap gets nuked in the war with China under President Kerry because the record books state it occurred. If anyone would bother to remote-view any decent history of the early 21st century. Tough to translate the squiggley script into English from the Reptilian tongue; but with a good dictionary of etymology I manage okay."

Any more of the future to share? Sounds fascinating.

As far as an update goes, if you kept up with the events of several nights ago, you would know that our discussions with Dan were curtailed with a flourish at that time. There were a number of reasons for this -- both known and unknown at this time -- but suffice it to say that a number of people will be startled by events they think they have controlled and manipulated.

(1028) interested bystander 2/14/2004 2:05 am EST

People have been trying for years to get mainstream science to validate Dr. Burisch and has work. Bill Hamilton and BJ both tried and met with very marginal success. And even that only came years after the information was presented. I just don't understand why 'Ambilac' thinks that showing the good doctor's writings and taped interview, and papers etc. to a bunch of PhD people is going to suddenly go in favor of Dr. Burisch and his research.

Best case scenerio: they are going to say that it is not complete enough for them to render a proper evaluation. Worst case: they are going to be secretly protecting their positions, funding, and prestige among their peers; and to do this, they have to ridicule his work because it does not fit the current mold. And if they do decide to protect themselves, it's going to sink any hope you have of getting favorable media attention.

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It's basically a lose-lose situation, one that in my humble opinion should have been left alone. Since there is no real way it can help your cause, what ever that is.

(1029) The Answer 2/15/2004 6:29 pm EST

You ask WHY? Why did Dr. Burisch say "tell the World"? It is not a complicated answer and it doesn't take a genius to figure it out.

Dr. B knows that:

(1) the future readers in future history will stumble upon this and other things referencing his current work.

(2) Someone, in that time will need some of the information he is currently working on.

This is not to say he has all the answers. He doesn't. This is not saying he has mapped out all the processes. He hasn't.

All it is saying is that somewhere in the body of material presented to you over the course of many months (material that you have steadfastly refused to post to this forum -- holding it in abeyance for some reason or many reasons) is a clue, an idea, or a thought that will someday become very important.

If you let everything you have see the light of day -- instead of hording it then -- in the future the people or person who needs that all-important nudge may get it.

That's why this thread was important enough for all those on-the-inside to risk so much to get you the bits and pieces of information that they were able to eek out.

It is not about the here and now. It is about helping somebody in the future with the information they will need to stumble upon.

The decision is up to you. If you fail to post what you have learned, then the whole reason you were helped dies with your thread.

Please make the right decision.

(1030) dondep 2/15/2004 10:56 pm EST

To Whom It May Concern--

This is a brief note to those of you who may wonder at my absence of late . If I am to get anything done in this effort, I have to forcefully pull my own attention from this thread and the daily meetings my teammates are involved in. To those of you who have posted any questions to me, I apologize for not addressing them (even though some of you asking harbor only frustration, resentment, or worse; I even forgive that of you). Please do not take this as a sign of resignation or defeat -- or a ‘tantrum’ as I have heard tell -- but a time for me to focus on doing what I understand was Dr. Burisch’s admonition to me (and to all of us that have been involved in this effort these last 3-1/2 months). Even though 'J' has

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assured us no-one should fear physical harm, it is still important that sensitive communications take place in as secure an environment as possible. It takes a lot of time to go to different phones, faxes, and computers to make arrangements that will result in a “satisfactory” outcome to this "mystery".

I want to address the issue of Mr. Hamilton and myself before it festers any further. I have always stated that I respect Bill and the role he has played as a kind of 'godfather'’ to this effort, and have tried to maintain a liaison with him and the 'ufer' community that was here before any of us learned of this story. In fact, it was he that sent me the first copy of that historic interview he had with Dan back in Sept. 2002.

Nonetheless -- and whether he may admit to it or not -- there has been some "resentment" perhaps that someone such as me -- a novice in ‘ufology’ and an ex-bank-robber to boot -- was granted as much access to Dan as I was when he was apparently not. It is not through any fault of mine that the ‘link’ proved to be an Illuminati mole (if in fact it was), but it was apparent that there was indeed frustration among some of the insiders that Bill had “given up” on or “closed” the case on several occasions.

This case is not only still “unsolved”, but it also is a clarion call to action that should require no more “peer review” gobbledeegook. If Bill indeed met with Dan within the past several weeks and passed a printout of my band’s website, did he also take the time to tell him the circumstances that led me to that violent action? How I had patiently worked for months, playing BY THE RULES, and even with major media attention and the support of broad sections of the community, and to have the members of the town council up-end their own rules out of fear that our plan would succeed and their little corrupt deal would go sour?

As soon as logistically possible this week -- in preparation for more things to come -- anyone who wishes to can view not only the original 2-inch headline “BANK ROBBERS OUTRUN POLICE IN 10-MILE HIGH-SPEED CHASE” but also the headlines of our efforts to establish a community center for the town in the months preceding that. Without them, the biggest headline wouldn’t have occurred. What it should show to even the casual observer is that I take these matters seriously. When society sets standards it wishes its citizens to adhere to, it better live up to them or it reaps the crime it pretends to abhor. I will never encourage bank-robbing as a force for change. I won’t even attempt to justify it, but it is a consequence when someone not old enough to buy beer has spent hours and hours of volunteer time patiently organizing a coalition to do a good thing, only to have the local PTB yank the rug out from under them after first threatening them with blackmail. This was my first lesson in how hollow is the illusion this society suffers from.

Today, though, the stakes are higher. If Bill, Alan, Winston, etc. can get Dan in front of Congress, and make the whole story available to anyone who wishes to know it, more power to them. But I can’t wait any longer. This goes way beyond the usual ‘ufer’ community who seem to have such a cozy relationship with the black-ops community they are constantly tracking that it is almost a case of Tweedledee and Tweedledum. Starting with Admiral Hillenkoetter and NICAP. Which is the main reason I have shied away from them despite the occasional advances they help engineer. I helped set some things in motion way before 'J' made his announcement, and now some things are beyond my control to stop. Which should be all for the good. Many of my teammates may quarrel with me over this post (yes, we can be a quarrelsome bunch! True of any democracy!) and my absence for the coming several days, but there is simply too much to get done in real-time. If I allowed myself, my thought-time would be consumed with responding to snarling ACs, anonymous insiders, tiffs either real or imagined, justifications, explanations, grawking or rawking.

And there simply isn’t enough time. Even now it may be too late. Dan himself said “by the time humanity figures out what I’m up to, it’ll be too late”. Even so, when one knows one has to try. By

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whatever NON-VIOLENT means necessary. Whether running for political office, addressing ufer conferences, copying videotapes for neighbors, emailing this thread and the links to the Library [http://www.scorpius.spaceports.com/~bemused/index12.html], telling the story to co-workers, etc. What is everyone else here doing? Waiting for the next ‘installment’? Fathoming the why’s and the wherefore’s? (Actually that is a good thing, but it still begs the question). If you are so new here that you are not sure yet what the story IS, a thorough review of the interviews at the Library will help.

So, while away, some of you will pour heaps of criticism, condescension, and maybe even some of you will take heart that SOMETHING will come of this. I expect as much, and would ask as much. I can’t do what I feel I have to do because it meets someone else’s timeline or their agenda. I can only do what I trust is what I am supposed to do, in the right time to get it done as well as I can help it.

Ponder that, and carry on.

(1031) FRIENDS TIL THE END 2/16/2004 12:31 am

MR. DEPPELLER--

IT SEEMS THAT THERE COULD BE MANY REASONS FOR AN INDIVIDUAL TO BE BROUGHT INTO FEDERAL COURT, INVADING A SECURE SYSTEM, WITHOUT AUTHORIZATION, MAY BE ONE OF THEM.

GLAD WE COULD HAVE THIS TALK. WE HOPE THIS HELPS YOU CLARIFY YOUR DECISION MAKING PROCESS.

(1032) dondep 2/16/2004 4:01 pm EST

To my 'FRIEND TIL THE END'--

Thank you for your post. But you must know I did NOT 'invade' a secure system. I was invited. And since you all apparently know the gist of my conversation with Marcia (er, BJ Wolf) and because she indicated that "The Answer" was apparently the reason for us receiving information from 'inside', I will take her advice and post our little conversation from last night forthwith:

[StealthSkater note: refer to Internet chat-interview #12at http://www.stealthskater.com/Documents/Burisch_31.doc for transcript]

As for the rest of our chats with Dan, the various 'Raven's, Foxes, MJ1 thru 5, etc.; if there is anyone on the team who has NOT reviewed them, please do so now so they can be put in the Library for the world to see.

I thought 'J' had made a conciliatory curtain call, but it appears the Corvus brotherhood is alive and kicking. Why is this happening? Apparently all are 'not of one mind', despite the breakout of peace between the Illumes and the Maji.

The main purpose behind with-holding those chats over the past 2 months has been primarily to protect our sources. But now we find out that some of them have been transferred to Nellis and one of

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our favorite 'Raven's was "erased". Damn... how do you people sleep at night? What higher purpose allows you to do that without qualm? There is obviously more to this than a Maji/Illume spat.

Can someone post something real instead of trying to "plow under" this thread with all this snarling? No wonder Dan and others think so ill of our efforts. Everyone wants everything right away -- on their own timetable -- barely time to chew before swallowing. You "plow under" a couple pages, print that garbage out, then expect him to think highly of our efforts? It's apparent many of the quieter efforts behind the scene are NOT known about (sorry Corvus; we don't post everything in the open if it means playing our best cards).

And what is this from BJ calling the stargates into question? I was ready to swallow my disgust for 'Rancher's arrogance and accept this need to capture these man-made stargates as trumping the public's right to know. But now I am not so sure. Have US military forces really captured 28 of the 40 of these things? Was Saddam really manufacturing them? How about an anonymous posting letting us in on the real deal?

(1033) flying swan 2/16/2004 6:07 pm EST

The third co-author of Eagles Disobey (4 authors in all)

As at November 19th 1997

Albert "Butch" Howell, 51, died Sunday. An Army veteran of the Vietnam War, he was born May 24, 1946, in Syracuse, N.Y., and was a security supervisor in a hotel-casino and a 12-year resident of Las Vegas.

(1034) Anonymous Coward 2/16/2004 6:15 pm EST

They all work at the casinos. A cover job, for a cover role, in a cover project that covers bigger things no doubt.

Just how much of this DB saga is a cover for the real project? Just how much of this "leaked" information was to throw all off track? Where was that methodology again? Why was that chat cut off, again? Why were the scientific reports assumed here, before they were written, again? To quell those who want to believe maybe?

The Treaty is probably well and truly re-signed. Look up an ye shall see.

The feeding of innocents continues.

(1034) Researcher 2/16/2004 11:19 pm EST

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"All the money for this work has dried up," said Dr. Robert Lanza of Worcester, Mass.-based Advanced Cell Technology, the one U.S. company that has publicly attempted to clone for stem cells, albeit unsuccessfully. "We are lucky to still be in business. Our research has suffered immensely."

Lanza said he´s been unable to work with human embryos since October because of the high cost of obtaining eggs and the company's desperate need for investment.

Meanwhile, Menlo Park, Calif.-based Geron Corp. has laid off most of its stem cell researchers and shifted much of its effort to developing a cancer-fighting drug based on a different technology.

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This money seems to have dried up right after Dr. Burisch says he discovered the use of the Ganesh in their work. Also, Geron Corp where like work is going on is in Menlo Park, California? Where did Burisch attend seminary? Menlo Park, California!

Coincidences in his statements and coincidences in the locations of these events! Hell, he was even in the UK when Bentwaters happened: 1980. Too many damned coincidences!

I hope this helps your team.

(1035) Researcher 2/17/2004 2:48 am EST

***************************************************************** Anonymous Coward 2/17/2004 1:54 am EST :

Before you jump on me for being the "idiot" you claim us all to be--yes, I implied that I believe that the end times are near--this is my opinion, and what I see from the events going on in the world right now. This does not mean I "know" exactly when this will happen, as I do not believe anyone knows this.

But, it is hard for me to believe that a future person will read this information on this forum and use it for some purpose--how likely is that?

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I don't take you as an idiot, not one bit. To add to this discussion, though, Dr. Burisch once said that he was passing information to the people from God or this "being"? If so, that information has not yet been made public for me to read. I have read that he said he "saw" images from a J-rod that he was involved with. I also read that he said he "saw" and future scenario on some kind of projection system. I further read that he said he "saw" documentation that some kind of future catastrophe could either "come" or "not". That is somewhat, in my humble opinion, short of his declaring himself a prophet.

On the fringe side, that may be a testimony for it, however, as the Bible says the judge of a prophet is the nature of the outcome. Being that we may never know if he was right or wrong (assuming 2012 comes and goes without great incident), why debate his possible relationship as a prophet or not? Unless we get further verifiable information, the only way to know him being a "prophet" would be to wake up in a catastrophe. By then, I doubt any of us would be thinking about Dr. Burisch?

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Do we know anything of substance about the communication of material between the alleged being and Dr. Burisch? If he is keeping quiet about it, we can't make assumptions that it is either good or evil.

The material that I have subsumed about him indicates to me that he hasn't shown one bit of egotism, aside from jocularity. This also, to a certain degree, speaks well of his personage.

I do not think that he is intending to pass a message to the world (via information, not the dove note) by this forum, those were other people's words. He has said that someone, post catastrophe or not, will find his work and use it. So, I think we are risking acting a bit self centered by making the assumption this information will be personally understood by anyone now living?

The dove note says to me- "I WANT TO GET THE WORD OUT ABOUT WHAT I HAVE SEEN AND IT SCARES ME."

(1036) Anonymous Coward 2/19/2004 8:28 am EST

Eagles Disobey: The Case for Inca City, Mars by B.J. Wolf ; co-authored by Albert "Butch" Howell, Robert Charles and Dan B. Catselas Burisch

Paperback: 280 pages Publisher: Candlelight Publishing; (August 1998) ISBN: 0964809028 Dewey: 559.9/23 21 LCCN: QB641 .W65 1998 280 pages

Your local library may have it. To search for it you need the following information 1) Title, 2) ISBN, 3) LCCN and 4) Dewey numbers

Reviewer: a reader from Beverly Hills, CA USA

This book was highly readable, and shed light on not only the Inca City Mars objects discovered in older NASA photos but gave an intriguing glimpse into the covert world of dark projects and government cover-ups which surrounds the principal investigator, Dr. Dan Burisch.

The author wrote in first person -- which is not all that common nowadays -- but it has the advantage of letting readers feel like they are going on a quest with the research team as more and more anomalies are discovered at the Inca City region. Photos are sometimes grainy, but you have to remember the photos under study were taken before we had the Mars Global Surveyor. Even so, they show some amazing things like the pyramid structure inside the square boxes that has sharp edges at the precise angles necessary to create a perfect pyramid. There even appears to be a ramp extending from one face. These are clearly not "natural" objects, coincidentally sculpted by winds, or eroded by running water during the years when Mars had a thicker atmosphere. It makes the case for an intelligent civilization at Inca City, Mars and is a very enjoyable book to read.

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NASA´s Michael Ravine, the advanced project manager at Malin Space Science Systems which operates Surveyor´s camera says, "The legendary formation appears to be nothing more than an eroded hills, debris, aprons and plenty of imagination. It's a butte, a mesa, a knob. The scientists were right all along in insisting the face was a natural formation, but I would have been overjoyed to discover otherwise. If we found flying saucers carved at the base of this thing. I would be even happier because that would be cool!"

Taking his direction, I looked at the close up images of the base of the Face and spotted a circular structure. I then contacted author BJ Wolf who wrote Eagles Disobey: The Case for Inca City, Mars. She said, "Their own analysis has revealed a doorway of some kind at the base of the Face. I liken it to the passage ways often built into ancient terrestrial monuments like the Sphinx at Giza, and the large Pyramids. I'm sure we’ll find more suspicious objects." ******* **************************************************************************

Any information about Robert Charles available ???

(1037) Boomerang 2/20/2004 7:49 pm EST

Annotoation by B.J.: In a taped interview with Dr. Crain in 1994, he discusses this matter, although he did not refer to this document by name or number. It seems clear then -- from this portion of the report -- that the original study was conducted by the team operating under a ´blind´. In other words, the scientists who performed the original study: k(lower-case)-24 were unaware of the true nature of the samples.

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Anyone know anything about the above taped interview from 1994?

(1038) Norman Rozwell 2/21/2004 1:26 am EST

From Syzygy Board:

Date: February 20, 2004 at 23:05:36 From: SRinLV, Subject: Odd Phenom in Vegas today

Local television news stations are reporting a strange occurrence here in the Las Vegas Valley. One station is reporting that thousands of people have been unable to use their remote keyless entry systems to get in their cars. Others can get in using their keys instead of the remote, but then many cars refuse to start. Car dealers have reported dozens of people calling and showing up trying to get repairs. Reports also are saying that many people are unable to use their remote garage door openers. This started occuring about noon today local time.

They go on to say that it is affecting the entire valley area, home to about a million or more people and not a small area in size. Rather strange, even by Las Vegas standards, truly one of the weirder places in the world. We had a storm move in from Southern California late this afternoon, but it's just a regular rainstorm, no lightning so far.

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Any opinions from those who use this board? You've always got some intriguing ideas.

(1039) Researcher 2/21/2004 2:28 am EST

Dr. Dan Burisch mentioned by Linda Moulton Howe just a few minutes ago on C2C with Norry. Context was her being asked about definition of the word 'extraterrestrial'. She responded that in light of the Burisch story, difficult to wrap ones head around that term, given the possibility that ET is really a future human.

(1040) Researcher 2/21/2004 2:53 am EST

Harrdhawk--

Just for reference: Dr. Burisch´s Majestic number was listed as H-6196 MAJ.

Interesting… something going wrong in Vegas. Wormholes theoretically affect nearby stars. So if a wormhole (natural stargate, like alleged at Frenchman´s Mountain) did open, one might see some affect at our Sun.

http://www.bartol.udel.edu/~NeutroNM/realtime/thule.html

I am not an stronomer or astrophysicist, but sure looks like a large downward spike in neutrons during 02-20 to me.

Your team should copy the top charts data ASAP, before it is replaced!

(1041) Harrdrawk 2/21/2004 5:31 am EST

Oh, I did copy and print today's charts from the thule Neutron monitor in case the info gets taken down. I just heard today that something may have opened at Frenchman's. Thanks for the prompt and the insight. Stay close, you seem like you could be real-time help..

(1042) Flying swan 2/21/2004 6:36 am EST

Not too sure what was expected, but the magno readings for 20th did not reveal anything untoward. No major solar activity and the quakes were mainly in Middle East, with two minor quakes in the Kuril isles ..Alaska.. HAARP was activated, but I have received no feedback as to where it was affected.

If indeed there was an activation at Frenchman's, it was man-made as there are no natural gates in that region. Again a project out of Groom Lake and its efforts to produce EM transponder activation. Groom Lake was the instigator in the 1950s in the research of these man made transponders, and were given incomplete tech by a faction of the Zetas originally

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This effort to counter the natural law will not be "allowed" and those locations will be shut down long before 2012 arrives. By then all major natural stargates on the ancient sacred sites will have activated to some degree or other. Eventually, on December 21st 2012 in our known calendar, all gates will simultaneously activate to coincide with a major cross over of the EM fields and global grids around our planet and others...the energy produced will be awesome as zero time is reached.

BTW..The swan is waiting on the lake for the Alpha male wolf to appear...He awaits the fisherman to return for contact...

K

(1043) Boomerang 2/21/2004 12:12 pm EST

I like truth … it’s just so damned elusive.

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If there is one thing that I have learned here, it's this: what may at first seem utterly ridiculous and impossible cannot and should not be consigned to the trash. By all means put it to one side in the pending box. I did that with the news that BJ Wolf was now working with Dan Burisch, "huh! How improbable is that?"

How could a woman -- the very person that has tried and failed to expose Dan and his work for so many years -- suddenly be embroiled in this Kafkaesque world?

The people surrounding Dan Burisch are not your everyday folk. They live with the DCTP as a fact of life. How easy would it be to introduce a man off the street to the concepts of this line of work? What do they do to recruit? Advertise in the Las Vegas Revue? "Wanted, open-minded person to assist in research project, good head for figures, experience with light beings and Stargates would be an advantage....."

Is Marcia A. Mc Dowell such a person???

Born in Canada and educated in human services and management psychology, Ms. McDowell worked closely for many years with Dr. Dan Burisch, who in 1997 led the research team that isolated and identified ruined city structures and geoglyphs from Mars photographs. Ms. McDowell wrote extensively about these discoveries using the pseudonym of B.J. Wolf in an effort to increase public aware of humanity’s past and future connection to Mars.

In 2000 she accepted the challenge of gathering the pieces of Dr. Burisch's "Lotus Protocol" as they were disseminated, and for placing them -- along with other key documents -- into the public datastream where they are known to eventually reach their optimal position for future reference. In this effort she repeatedly challenged the artificial barriers of science, politics, and socioeconomic power in order to call for a new and greater understanding of our place in the universal community.

Most recently after returning to Canada, she was made aware of her unique responsibilities with respect to the doctrine of convergence and her place in the community "doing the work of history". She accepted this responsibility and voluntarily closed down her public efforts in order to devote her full

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time and attention to providing internal support and key assistance to Dr. Burisch and the community sponsoring his work related to the Lotus Protocol and Ganesh Particle research. Her most notable contributions to the Lotus Research to date have been in the areas of "electromagnetic river" particles and the theory of stacked platonics.

Ms. McDowell's willingness to move away from a public career for the greater good of humanity coupled with her pivotal contributions to the Lotus Research Project has prompted the Knight Protectors Institute for Peace Studies to submit Ms. McDowell as a joint nominee with Dr. Danny B Catselas Burisch for this year's Nobel Peace Prize."

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Is there anything wrong with the above picture?

And Steven Mostow died in a small plane crash just a few days before the decision was made to publish this information. He would have been in a particularly good position to comment on Dan’s work with these alien cells (ganesh) since he worked directly with Dan on the Q94 document. He crunched the numbers for the document while Dan did the writing and cited the team’s position about the direction that the research was taking.

3-18-3 Steven Mostow, 63, known as Dr. Flu for his expertise in treating influenza, and a noted expert in bioterrorism, died when the airplane he was piloting crashed near Denver.

The relevance?

Steven Mostow was “crunching numbers for Dan” And who is doing that number crunching now? None other than BJ herself?

Quote from BJ:- “During that work I came to know a great deal about Dan´s involvement in dark projects

that are covertly funded by our military and government bodies including his work up at Area-51 or -- as it is known by those who work up there -- "Watertown Strip".”

"Toward the end of 1998 Dan disappeared. His residence was abandoned overnight, and nobody seemed to know where he had been taken. He turned up halfway across-the-country with most of his memories concerning his association with me and our work on Eagles Disobey altered or erased. I tried my best to remind him of his past, but he did not believe me until I showed him a copy of the book and photographs of himself sitting on my couch playing with the dogs. He returned to his new location, but memories started to break through the "conditioning" to such an extent that Dan fled and was eventually recaptured and whisked off to a military base for re-"conditioning".

"When they realized that they couldn't keep it up with out damaging his ability to think and function (remember, they wanted him to continue to work for them in his capacity as team leader and microbiologist), they decided to re-wind his memories and return him to Las Vegas under the careful observation of his spouse, who relays all communication up the pipeline and signs much of her correspondence with her title/designation PsiOpSec.

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I imagine BJ as being left feeling profoundly isolated and unhappy when Dan ‘disappeared’, the invite to join the ‘in-crowd’ may have been too tempting to resist. OR has she herself become a victim of “altered or erased memories”?

If BJ has filled the shoes of Steven Mostow, who has replaced BJ? You and I?

Serendipitous?

(1044) John Henderson 2/21/2004 2:03 pm EST

John Henderson here: More info on the Las Vegas wireless remote strangeness.

The transmitter portion of the HAARP system supplies Radio Frequency (RF) power to the antennas. The transmitter operates between the frequencies 2.8-10 MHz in the High Frequency (HF) portion of the RF spectrum. This frequency range lies directly above the standard AM broadcast band and below the VHF Television broadcast band.

All undesired signals above 45 MHz must be attenuated by at least 120 dB (one million, million times) and all harmonics and spurious signals in the frequency range 88 - 200 MHz, must be attenuated by 150 dB or more (one thousand, million, million times).

See: http://www.haarp.alaska.edu/haarp/trans.html

Garage remotes were also effected in Las Vegas. Mine has FCC ID HBW1D3469. I t operates at 390.0 MHz. My car remote has FCC ID A269ZUA111. It operates at 434.0 MHz

See: https://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/oet/cf/eas/reports/GenericSearch.cfm

For the uses of the frequency spectrum see: http://www.fcc.gov/oet/info/database/spectrum/spinvtbl.pdf

So it looks that it was not HAARP being used to activate the stargate at Frenchmen's Mountain near Los Vegas. The Ford service advisor said that he thought Nellis AFB was the cause.

So the question remains, what caused it? Where are the Las Vegas guys when we need them?

(1045) Crackajack 2/22/2004 5:50 am EST

Just a short note to inform all that a chat I had with Dr Burisch, in late January, will be loaded to the Spaceports website sometime within the next 24 hours. It's a little too long to post here (some 27 pages) so 'White Rabbit' will soon inform here of the exact URL.

I hope you enjoy it as much as I did, and hopefully you won't be as frustrated by unasked questions as I was afterward. But it certainly was a pleasure to talk with -- as well as see -- the good Doctor.

Go to http://scorpius.spaceports.com/~bemused/transcripts.html and see latest transcript marked "new".

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[StealthSkater note: refer to Internet chat-interview #10at http://www.stealthskater.com/Documents/Burisch_27.doc for transcript]

(1046) Flying swan 2/22/2004 10:01 am EST

Re- auto car - garage electro problems

From the overnight feedback., I have been informed it is one of a number of methods used by the military to jam signals and frequencies by Electromagnetic means. Info has been relayed that a possible "terror" attack is in the offering in various locations, especially since there was a breach on the Mexican border last week. A system of intermittent jamming EM fields have been activated to prevent auto/remote activation.

(1047) starryeyes 2/22/2004 1:58 pm EST

If anyone Googles Don Deppeller's name, the first listing starts out talking out his background. It does not make sense that Bill Hamilton did not know this all along. I believe that he is being protective of what he considers to be his "big story". Why are you taking information off of your web site now Bill? I could not even find your bio.

(1048) Researcher 2/22/2004 4:46 pm EST

Anonymous Coward 2/22/2004 10:21 am EST Re: Mystery of Dr. Dan Burisch !!!IMPORTANT!!! Volume 3:)

From: "William Sawyers" <wsawers@ihug.co.nz> Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 09:05:59 +1300 Fwd Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 16:57:41 -0500 Subject: Mars Rock???

In the interests of free info, check out the Photo comparisons regarding the following onhttp://www.riskers.org/ .

Mr. Dep:-- Nice to see the letter that "started it all" when Dr. Burisch decided to resist! Early on in my "investigation", I had the good fortune of seeing the actual image comparisons that Dr. Burisch did on the meteorite. They were troubling. Troubling for the NASA case, that is. The images in EaglesDisobey suffered from processing by the publisher and were not the quality of the originals. The images I saw are now in the care of who knows. They were passed around my small group as we became aware of "the troubler" as he became known in 1999.

Do you have the original J. William Schopf and NASA image that Dr. Burisch used to conduct his analysis? If so, they could be used to ask Dr. Burisch further questions about the inappropriate use of government funds should you be successful in wrangling him into litigation. I have been trying for

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some time to get the images back -- to copy them -- but they have proven as elusive as the good doctor himself.

An interesting point: Keith Rogers of the Review Journal in Las Vegas (the same from your car alarm issue) was the first contacted by Dr. Burisch and Robert Charles in 1997 or 98. He looked at the images and was said to have been stunned, so stunned that he contacted Schopf at UCLA where Schopf said he had the original plate from his 1970 image. However, Schopf was "unsuccessful" when looking for it. ;)

EaglesDisobey also spoke of the image that was sent to Robert Charles, a glossy of the alleged meteorite bug. The letter from NASA praised Dr. Burisch's interest but said that his contentions were false. It was some size issue, with Schopf's image alleged to be much larger than the NASA bug. To prove that, NASA sent along a glossy of the alleged smaller bug with an autosize bar imprinted on the image itself from the microscope that took the picture.

The letter read that it should solve the problem of the size issue, proving Dr. Burisch incorrect about his match.

Only problem was..........the image had no size bar on it!

The image was last known to be in the possession of Robert Charles, the man to whom it was sent via a Congressman. When the Congressman's aide was confronted with the size bar issue, nothing further was done.

Researcher

Researcher

(1049) Researcher 2/22/2004 4:49 pm EST

That's strange, I swear I only typed "researcher" once?

Researcher

Researcher

(1050) Anonymous Coward 2/22/2004 4:51 pm

You did. Time to go back to other things, Frank.

(1051) Researcher 2/22/2004 4:55 pm

How do you know my name? Who is this?

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(1052) Anonymous Coward 2/22/2004 5:03 pm

Frank-- James is upset with you proxy dragging his co into a fringe forum. You have your Intranet disabled or we could keep this just between us kids without my sending security up. You want to know who I am? OK! Here comes …

(1053) Anonymous Coward 2/22/2004 5:05 pm EST

This should serve as notice to EVERYONE in vaxproc rm!

(1054) Dondep NLI 2/22/2004 6:26 pm EST

Anybody feel like we're in a fishbowl here? Seems we just saw an exchange between a sensitive 'Researcher' who was trying to help our sleuths and someone who apparently has access to the means to compromise the anonymity of the 'AC's on this forum.

Thank you, Frank (if that is your name). Sorry they hacked your Intranet.

(1055) Harrdrawk 2/22/2004 6:34 pm EST

'Researcher'--

I saw what happened just now. No one could edit your post here at GLP besides Elaine or Curmudgeon, as you were/are unregistered.. The "editor" of your post obviously watched you type and added your sign off before you hit the 'submit' button. The fact that he knows your name (would publish it)and your outsource location is a little disconcerting I'll admit, but not the end of the world. Thanks for working on Sunday, and try to get back to us somehow. I know what I would do if I were you. But maybe that doesn't help.

(1056) Crackajack 2/23/2004 10:45 pm EST

MH, Boomer and Harrdrawk, and anyone else-- this may add some spice to the mix. A few things to consider here. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

crackajack: Ok, any idea what we are currently being chemmed with? How long will this mechanism be used?

raven: I wasn't part of 'Raindancer', the one that Dan was aware of. I know about the cloud seeding to cool the troposphere. The rest, I don't know. I heard rumours. But just rumours.

crackajack: OK, can you give me your Chem rumours? I know they're rumours, but may be important. 469

raven: Okay, well it's a few. Some have said that it is a mass inoculation against possible viruses that could be used against us by a terrorist group.

crackajack: ok

raven: I have heard that the metals are part of a HAARP study that would use a temporary buildup of them in the atmosphere in a Telsa-like weapons system. They spray them in different parts of the world, then test the ionosphere for conductivity during different times of the year and conditions. I have also heard about the 'Raindancer' that it was defense system against an alien virus. But Dan feels differently about that.

crackajack: What's Dan's take?

raven: The last one that it was a system to reduce local radiation in the event of a nuclear attack.

crackajack: wow

raven: Dan said that he was told that it was the alien antivirus thing. But that he found out it was much different, that it has to do with raven: tests of an engineered virus that is part-alien/part-human. He said he felt it was a bioweapon. Not to be used against humans that I know aabout!

crackajack: Is there any connection to the human-bovine hybrid research and the Bovine Genome Sequencing Project?

raven: The research into the cows and humans DNA has to do with back engineering the J-rods' nerve diseases. That is why the cows are being mutilated by the 'rogue 'J-rods. They are removing reproductive, nerve and stem cells from them.

crackajack: OK, as is the popular theory. Bigelow ranch research too huh?

raven: I am afraid I don't know too much about the Bigelow's connection with the cattle, not really.

crackajack: So is Mr. Bigelow building the "Ark" or the "Biosphere" under the auspices of space travel privatization? Or is it just the next generation Shuttle? One wonders …

(1057) Boomerang 2/23/2004 11:08 pm EST

I can't believe that Bigelow finances NIDS, decides to build the stuff above (and from what I see if this guy says he will do it, then bet'ya he will!), and people ignore the connection?

IMO,

S4 sells the tech to Bigelow ($$$s for other further "ventures"). Bigelow invests the technology privately. Everyone's a winner, baby... well, maybe not us but since when has that mattered?

[StealthSkater note: don't know if it's applicable here, but the late Howard Hughes did a lot of projects at his own expense for the government including building an underwater

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retrieval craft that tried to recover a sunken Soviet nuclear sub (it broke in half on the way up).]

(1058) Harrdrawk 2/24/2004 4:55 am EST

If a person wants to fast-forward the experience of the usual frustration and climatization associated with the transition of paranormal realities in our multidimensional society in the span of just a few hours, I recommend setting aside a little quiet time somewhere -- possibly even in the Nevada desert air -- and read the story about Bob Lazar here:

http://www.anomalies.net/area51/s4/boblazar/

[StealthSkater note: Some Lazar-related material is also archived athttp://www.stealthskater.com/UFO.htm#Lazar ]

There's really no way to rush through this and understand all that is implied here. We ourselves will be confronted with similar fronts, and weird twists of fate. The story is not an new one, (now almost 15 years old) and it should have made a bigger splash than it did considering all the evidence and witnesses presented. Bob was an excellent witness successfully "nullified" by nothing. A gripping read, providing tons of detail and room for updates here. I've thoroughly enjoyed this site, thanking whoever took the time to build and maintain it. Hats off to Bob for not going "Ufer" on us and for not trying to capitalize (monetarily) on one of the most ridiculous secrets this world has kept undisclosed.

And shame to those cowards everywhere who would rather live a lie than die. Your lives are wasted.

(1059) dondep 2/24/2004 4:02 pm EST

The librarian has notified me that some of the more recent images and screenshots are now uploaded at the Library: http://www.scorpius.spaceports.com/~bemused/index12.html

Also, the following Dan chat should be available there as well, including the image discussed. Please note the subject of delaying the release of this chat is addressed, and in other chats which will be released shortly it will be discussed in even further detail. Again, due to ongoing efforts, some sections have been removed prior to this post.

[StealthSkater note: refer to Internet chat-interview #11at http://www.stealthskater.com/Documents/Burisch_30.doc for transcript]

(1060) PageMarker 2/26/2004 2:02 am EST

MJ3: Don Dep?

Dondep: yes

MJ3: This is the last time I can try to connect. They are getting closer to finding out what's happening. 471

Dondep: Okay, am listening carefully.

MJ3: They know there is some kind of info breach but I am not sure how. I can't get caught. Happens once, happens only once.

Dondep: We are keeping a lid here. Only inner circle receives info.

MJ3: Something is wrong. I am afraid they can see what is going on here tonight so I am having another person type what I say so it comes out a little different.

Dondep: Need you to remind the few here that this is not for posting on the thread.

MJ3: That's what I need you to do, but I think they are watching right now, so don't disclose any secret plans in this conversation.

Dondep: roger.

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The group has received criticism for not immediately releasing transcript logs, yet we have only been done what our informants told us to do.

To say that the thread died because information was being withheld is not entirely true. Dr Burisch recently discussed with Dondep the results of the first ever Spallanzani experiments with the Ganesh Particle, and not much followed. I guess it depends on the audience. Maybe most would rather hear conspiracy theories of aliens and their spacecraft.

Don's chat with Dr Burisch began with the 'test image" sent to 'J’ which had been a "test shot with the new cinema unit". POS is an apt name with all those 'alien cells'. Maybe SG Productions needs their help, but at least let’s hope 'J' doesn’t need new glasses.

Nevertheless, Dr Burisch's Spallanzani experiments seemed to have gone fairly well (please see http://scorpius.spaceports.com/~bemused/transcripts.html for the full text and the corresponding image) in the Lotus Model composite.

(1060) Manouvres in the Dark 2/26/2004 3:27 am EST

I hope you watchers and your watchers' watchers are watching. There will be movement afoot. Are you ready? You had better keep an eye on things. Capiche?

Light 1 and Light 4 on deck? Good. Take your time, you have missed much already.

(1061) dondep 2/27/2004 12:45 am EST

------Talking With Dan Burisch in Mid-December----------

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[StealthSkater note: refer to Internet chat-interview #8at http://www.stealthskater.com/Documents/Burisch_32.doc for transcript]

(1062) Anonymous Coward 2/27/2004 1:40 am EST

… and why was this withheld for 2 months again?!!!

(1063) Anonymous Coward 2/27/2004 6:38 am EST

BY:Toby Morris (web90021bs@hotmail.com) RE:REPOST: Dan Burisch and the Stargate

Newsgroups:alt.fan.art-bell Datum:2001-12-31 15:20:48 PST

Dr. Dan Burisch (Las Vegas, NV) is being pressured into opening a power source that remote viewers have indicated to be alien in nature. He is resisting, but his superiors are determined to get him to do it, regardless of the consequences.

Background: Dan Burisch is a government scientist who has in-depth knowledge of "dark projects" going on at various Area-51 labs. But recently he has been forced to work -- literally at gunpoint -- in Las Vegas on a covert project called the 'Lotus' protocol. A s a direct result of this project, he has been ordered to design experiments to isolate ancient virus particles that his superiors hope to use to re-engineer human DNA and RNA. He has had serious reservations about doing this. But through intimidation and other methods of force, he has been compelled to work on the experiments that resulted from the initial ideas he put forth regarding the Lotus Protocol.

Information leaked from the project indicates that the experiments are taking place in the field (just east of Las Vegas, NV) where they were searching for ancient particles that had preserved particles imbedded in them. What they found was a power source that has his superiors licking their chops in anticipation of the weapons potential -- as well as the original thrust of the research -- involving DNA and RNA.

Recent information from remote sensing of the region has indicated that this power source, and indeed the virus particles themselves may be of alien origin, and the power source could be a conduit to a much larger complex.

Dr. Burisch has begged his superiors to leave 'it' alone. Those radar rings and spikes should have been warning enough. But his superiors have HAARP quietly testing the region and causing havoc in the atmosphere above the site. Dr. Burisch is afraid that their continual experimentation will set off a chain reaction or possibly opening up a conduit or stargate of some kind. But, of course, nobody is listening to him.

Your input could make the difference. Dr. Burisch can be reached at 3200 McLeod Dr., Apt 162 Las Vegas, NV 89121.

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(1064) Harrdrawk 2/27/2004 2:23 pm EST

Hello good people--

At first, I was a little shocked to see one of our group "huddles" show up on the thread. Then I realized it was one where Dan made an appearance.. (Not that the 'huddles' are secret, but sometimes they're just silly) In the chat Dondep just posted, I had missed about an hour (got bumped) during the chat so I finally got to see what I missed. Thank you, team, for getting this up-and-out. I know there are so many things in there that will cause the Maji and UK PTB to squirm. And I'm sorry but Dan and 'Raven' will still probably have to take some "heat" for it, as you know.

To anyone still wondering why this was delayed for these few weeks, I have it from 'Raven':

<<MJ1: Ladies and gentlemen, I had to switch Burisch 'off' for security time concerns. I am not sure that you will want to publish, but may want to use the info as you want. If published, I doubt that the hole will remain open in their defenses. Have a good day. Raven. >>

All in all it was great day in the lives of those that were there, and hopefully those that read this can relate somehow. It would be a great thing if the world felt as some of us do (did) about these revelations. But as Dan also said here:

<<DAN BURISCH: I think that we, as a society, would be able to handle the issues involving extraterrestrial contact. But when the issues of the paradox get mixed in (to a public that understands reality is Monday Night Football, The Guiding Light, and an 8-hour work shift that is only partially worked), we walk the thin line of stripping people's reality from them. That is dangerous. Not everyone is as open-minded as many of you that are probably reading these words. >>

I am still hopeful that Dan will someday be able to hob-knob with his fans in the same room and talk about the old days when stargate experiments at Frenchman's used to be considered "black-ops".

Thanks to the poster who gave us the 'Remoteviewer's testimony about Dan and his involvement at Frenchman's and the pressure he has been under to please the Dark Lords. That was very timely.

For what it's worth, I think 'Boomer' and 'Torch' are both on the same side here. I hope neither stays away too long. Would like to say thanks to 'JanUnknown' for your daily visits and wish you could stop by and prop a pillow up under 'Human Subject's head for us.

I presently don't feel like fighting with anyone except the Illuminati, but even they can have the day off. Wonder if this thing will ever be accepted as part of our World's history, or if we'll be denied that too.

It's snowing in Idaho.

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(1065) John Henderson 2/27/2004 7:49 pm EST

I want to thank Dondep for releasing the transcript. Personally, I would have deleted the sections before-and-after Dan was on-line. I would have deleted the outing of Dr. Nicholas Severs. I would have corrected the spelling and grammatical errors as per Dan's wishes. But what-the-heck, here we go.

I personally feel very honored to have prompted Dan to speak about the holy Cherubim. If this interaction can be substantiated, it might be one of the most important series of events to recorded in human history. Dan has not yet revealed what the subject matter of his conversations with the holy Cherubim; and I pray that his handlers make every effort to enable him to open up to discuss this in the near future. This might be more important than world peace or it might enable world peace. Dan's health is very precarious, and I pray that the holy Cherubim sustains him at least until he is given a chance to relate to the world those conversations.

I personally feel very honored to have received his response to my conjecture of where our consciousness resides. I have read of Dan's descriptions from many other sources. I feel this knowledge is extremely important to humanity. Perhaps his views on this subject were given to him by the holy Cherubim.

I wish to thank every one associated with that holy chat and this golden thread. God bless you all.

(1066) Anonymous Coward 2/28/2004 12:21 am EST

While I appreciate the attempt at showing those not "in the loop" the conversation with Dr. Burish, I am disturbed by the comments within the conversation regarding editing of the post. I can accept waiting for a reasonable time so as not to expose certain people involved. But when it is shown, why would the conversation be edited? What exactly needs to be hidden from us? And why?

I thoroughly agree with the Dr.'s explanation that "stripping away " the average person's reality will be dangerous. I know for a fact that the average American cannot and will not deal with what is really going on under their noses. But, none of those people are going to show up on this forum to read this. So, why the secrecy?

I am also curious about something the Dr. said regarding the 'light being'. Someone asked specifically if this 'being' is a "good" angel and the Dr. refused to comment on this. I would have to think that it is possible that the Dr. might not be sure himself if this entity is "good", or why not respond?

People "in the loop"-- it would be nice if you would make an attempt to reign in your egos a little. Being on the "inside" does not make you a better person than the rest of us. It means you were in the right place at the right time. Many of us would be just as valuable as you are in regards to keeping this thing together, but just did not volunteer when it was needed for whatever reason. This situation really seems to be going to some of your heads and it is tiresome to read through all of your ego trips. No one on this Earth is better than another. We are all simply on different levels of our own experience. Try to share with a little less arrogance and a little more of a sense of bringing humans together for a common purpose (at least, the ones who are willing to open their minds and hearts to see the truth).

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(1067) Wolf 2/28/2004 10:55 am EST

QUESTIONNAIRE Re: MICHAEL WOLF KRUVANTJanuary 26, 2004, prepared by Stanton T Friedman

(Please answer to the best of your knowledge):

1. Was Michael Wolf Kruvant your brother?

YES.

2) How much younger are you than Michael?

TWO YEARS.

3) Were you in contact with Michael during most of his life?

YES.

4) Did Michael flunk out of Upsala College?

YES.

5) Did Michael ever receive a diploma from ANY college or university?

NO.

6) Did Michael ever serve in the military?

NO.

7) Did Michael ever work for the U.S. government?

NO.

8) Did Michael ever have a security clearance?

NO.

9) Was Michael ever married?

NEVER.

10) Did Michael ever father a child?

NEVER.

11) Was Michael a homosexual?

YES.

12) Did Michael ever have a major full-time job for more than a week 476

making more than $8,000/year?

HE WORKED A TOTAL OF TWO (2) DAYS IN HIS LIFETIME.

13) Did Michael ever spend time in various mental hospitals?

YES, SEVERAL.

14) Did you inform Dr Richard Boylan of the answers to most of the above questions?

YES, AND BOYLAN SAID I WAS LYING.

15) Was Michael's only income in the last years of his life from Social Security and your mother's payment of $300/month to help him out?

YES.

16) Do you know of ANY meetings between Michael and U.S presidents?

NO.

OTHER COMMENTS: "Michael had a need to FABRICATE his ENTIRE life. I watched his life destroyed by FEAR, parental abuse -- both psychologically and physically -- and through the use of alcohol and drugs. He became incapable of human emotion."

Signature: Ron Kruvant (signed) 2/4/04

ADDENDUM: "He was intelligent and -- at an early age -- he became adept at LYING. This continued THROUGHOUT HIS LIFE. He was subject to schizophrenia and delusions of GRANDEUR."

Ron Kruvant

(1068) Ambilac 2/28/2004 2:51 pm EST

To 'Janunknown'--

Re Vide: good, it is in the public domain. It was not my video in the first place. It belonged to Bill Hamilton, and I had every intention the moment I streamed it to air it out on-site. However, Bill asked me (for various security issues) to only pass it on to people who asked. I keep my promises. If other sites wish to air it, that is fine but take the issue with Bill.

Re- Michael wolf - ever considered who was hospitalised?? My information comes from one who was at University with Michael Wolf.

(1069) Janunknown 2/28/2004 3:47 pm EST 477

TO 'Ambilac'--

Regarding the video, I kept my promises as well. It is OK. So let's tell all those who want to see the video. "Search on this thread".

BTW-- Great and interesting contributions on Ambilac about GIZEH a.s.o. (Sakkara, Imhotep, EDFU temple, DENDERA Temple etc.). May be OSIRIS knew and is Horus indeed a CPU. A good start to know more is http://ambilac-uk.tripod.com/ambilacukcopy/id31.html .

Keep on contributing. I miss your latest topics.

(1070) John Henderson 2/28/2004 5:50 pm EST

I just got off the phone from a 30-minute conversation with Stanton T Friedman. Life is sure fun. I must say that he was very gracious and entertaining at the same time. He agreed with me that both Dr Wolf's and Dr Burisch's explanation of mutilations didn't account for the draining of the blood. We plan to keep in touch over these issues. He was interested in several leads that I have uncovered of which I will speak about later.

(1071) Human Subject #58-001 2/29/2004 2:58 am EST

Just to let all know; I do NOT use Yahoo! anymore. My computer has been hacked this last month, and some Yahoo-files 'disappeared'. One threat I received from a 'Raven' is gone. I wanted to post that (maybe someone else has it), because I was in a "huddle" when I got contacted around X-mas, I think.(just 6 lines of text).

Just wanted to show where I (we) say that we only take orders from God (only death will stop me). And we offer our help, but we won´t go away.

AND WE WON´T! LOL

Q for all: shall I kick-off thread 4?

Sorry to see what happened here during the hack-attack. Many pages and posts missing (ALL my threads, besides this one, are gone! and from volume 1, I only see 129 pages and a lot of bumps still! lol, did Elaine ever give a response?). And I still see threads over 2000. How come she let those ´unharmed´? I don't care -- it IS her board after all -- but please don't give reasons that are two-way explainable, best say nothing then. lol

The memory of all the Human, animal, plant and otherwise used 'subjects', are the reason all this got started, not?! Best be headed in memory of 'em, IMO. (latest we can add to the horror are the chickens I saw being thrown into the fire alive in plastic bags in China etc..., tsk-tsk for man(not so)kind, and ONE t/Ear up to God, ´no sparrow unnoticed!)

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(1072) a number 2/29/2004 5:26 am EST

While the bell has sounded, I have been given this opportune time to congratulate all of the members of this thread for their successful activities in getting done whatever it is that you have done! :()

Your success should be praised on high and I will bother Doc with "most" of the last 12-or-so hours of the posts here so that he is fully aware of your successes!

I am sure that he will "react" to this pronouncement of success and will remember the degree to which your successes have changed his life for the better!

Again, all of our congratulations ON A JOB WELL DONE!

Your friends.

(1073) a number 2/29/2004 5:47 am EST

Oh! Oh! Oh! Just one more post and I will leave you good people alone to your victory celebrations!

I copied-and-pasted as much as should be and walked right over and interrupted Doc away from his images for a minute. He swung around from his screen and said "Put it on my desk -- whatever it is -- if I need it". I told him that he definitely needed it! (silly me) Doc turned on his desk light and reviewed the print as I was walking back out the door.

I have to tell you that I was wrong! He didn't react one bit! He just stared at it with a blank look. As things go with him that usually doesn't mean something very positive, but hey! when you are as successful as you guys are, the message just has to get out! As I walked out he said "Thank you, sir". He sounded a little sullen but that must be because of the long hours.

Now I am successful! I have told the world!

Have good lives people!

;)

(1074) Crackajack nli 2/29/2004 7:00 am EST

Interesting things happening around the sun. Here is an mpeg loop from Soho :http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/data/LATEST/current_c3.mpg

An anomalous "flare" appears at frame 217 of this set. The timing suggests 2 images an hour. Funny thing, though, the frame before 217 is missing. NASA / JPL at it again?

Hmmmmm.

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(1075) Harrdrawk 2/29/2004 2:11 pm EST

LOOKY LOOKY, EVERYONE! You will notice on this page, a couple posts by somebody posting as "a number"

Notice that this anonymous poster is an insider has two things we would all love to have: (A)access to the thread (not approved by 'J') and (B)access to Dan (obviously part of his job or clearance). He can read here and pick-and-choose what HE wants the good Doctor to see. Comes-and-goes like a gentle breeze. And within minutes of reading a rant, Dan has it on his desk. What a truly powerful position 'a number' must be enjoying. And the GLP people are so stupid they won't notice it. WHAT A RIOT!

Now who do we know that has access to Dan that has clearance? Who do we know that when walking into the same room as Dan would cause Dan to grunt instructions like "just leave it over there and I'll get to it..."? Well, I know for one there is a man named Kevin Tibbet that would love to land some disenchanting news on Dan's desk. Are there any others? I can almost predict which posts Dan got to see. Is it me? Or does anyone else see the little mind game (power play) going on here? Poor, poor, Kevin. Sir, you must be so sad not getting your way [sniffle]. The Free world just isn't playing along [sniffle]. They are not behaving like you want them too! [Boo Hoo Hoo]

(Our) 'Raven's don't have access to Dan, and they are strictly forbidden to read this thread or post here. Or did you not know that? You have posted here often. Hmmm…? (Our) 'Raven's fly high and wide and watch you swagger around the world thinking no one knows. When they can't see you, they can smell you like we can--->(RAT!). How sad Dan must feel that his only contacts with humans are with the likes of you? That he can't talk to his friends that his days before going into life-threatening surgery are void of visits from humans with no hidden agendas. You must be one miserable creature.

(1076) Anonymous Coward 2/29/2004 7:18 pm

They are weaving the contents of the posts, then sharing them at the right times with the doctor to make us look like we've lost our minds. Doctor is being psy-oped and we are being cut out.

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