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Page 1: Freddy Van den Spiegel Chief Economist Economic outlook. Are we getting out of the mess? Brussels, February 03 2011

Freddy Van den SpiegelChief Economist

Economic outlook.Are we getting out of the mess?

Brussels, February 03 2011.

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• 2007: starting problems in US housing market and “toxic” financial products.

• 2008: major banks fail in US and EU, global economy into recession.

• 2009: global recession.

• 2010: sovereign risks.

• 2011: currency and trade wars or gradual normalisation?

History of the crisis

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But surprising economic recovery

Changing forecasts:

Date of forecast: sep/09 jan/10 apr/10 jul/10 okt/01

World 3,1 3,9 4,2 4,6 4,8

US 1,5 2,7 3,1 3,3 2,6

EMU 0,3 1,0 1,0 1,0 1,7

China 9,0 10,0 10,0 10,5 10,5

Russia 1,5 3,6 4,0 4,3 4,0

Source: IMF

2010 Forecasts

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1. Economic outlook: focus on the consensus view.

US: Growth is back but quid sustainability?

• Corporate sector healthy.

• Consumer sector fragile.

• Government sector supportive beyond reasonable levels.

• External balance deteriorating again.

• Banking sector: deleveraging going on but still a long way to go.

CONTINUOUS RECOVERY GOING ON BUT REMAINS VULNERABLE

SUSTAINABLE FOR HOW LONG?

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1. Economic outlook: focus on the consensus view.

EMU: Growth is back but slower than US.

• Corporate sector healthy.

• Consumer sector hesitant.

• External sector pulling economy.

• Government debt levels increasing but still under control.

• Banking sector stabilised, but vulnerable.

• Monetary and Economic Cohesion at risk.

SUSTAINABLE GROWTH BUT FINANCIAL AND POLITICAL UNCERTAINTY

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1. Economic outlook: focus on the consensus view.

Belgium: strong performance within EMU

• Corporate sector healthy.

• Consumer sector strong.

• Government sector the Achilles’ heel.

• External sector pulling economy.

• Banking sector oversized and vulnerable: ongoing need to deleverage.

Nice profile with political and financial weak spots.

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1. Economic outlook: focus on the consensus view.

Russia: sustained growth.

• Activity supported by oil prices.

• Consumer sector benefitting from lower unemployment.

• Government sector: room for expansion.

• External sector: comfortable balance.

• Tighter monetary policy due to inflation.

• Long term potential.

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1. Economic outlook: focus on the consensus view.

Asia: Continued growth and apparent stability.

• No fundamental problems with crisis (banks and government debt).

• But based on massive government support.

• But still focused on exports which is unsustainable.

• But inflationary pressures building.

And not only a China story

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MAJOR NEW ECONOMIES: REAL GDP GROWTH (%YoY)IMF Figures

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IMF Forecasts

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1. Economic outlook: focus on the consensus view.

Asia: Continued growth and apparent stability.

• No fundamental problems with crisis (banks and government debt).

• But based on massive government support.

• But still focused on exports which is unsustainable.

• But inflationary pressures building.

And not only a China story

Growth can continue at high speed, but increasing dangers of conflicts with major clients and internal bottle necks.

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Summary.

1. Economic outlook: focus on the consensus view.

2010 2011 2012 2010 2011 2012 2010 2011 2012US 2,8 2,1 2,8 1,6 1,1 0,8 -8,9 -8,6 -7,0EMU 1,7 1,6 1,7 1,6 2,2 1,6 -6,2 -4,7 -3,7Belgium 2,1 2,2 2,0 2,3 2,6 1,8 -4,6 -3,8 -3,1Russia 4,1 4,2 4,5 6,9 8,3 8,7 -3,9 -3,5 -3,0China 10,0 9,0 9,4 3,2 3,8 3,8 -2,7 -2,3 -2,5Source: BNP Paribas

GDP Growth Inflation Budget Balance

2010 2011 2012 2010 2011 2012 2010 2011 2012US 2,7 2,2 3,1 1,6 1,1 1,1 -10,5 -8,8 -6,8EMU 1,7 1,7 2,0 1,5 1,3 1,2 -6,3 -4,6 -3,5Belgium 2,1 1,8 1,8 2,1 1,6 1,8 -4,9 -4,5 -3,6Russia 4,0 4,3 4,4 6,6 7,5 6,5 -4,8 -3,6 -2,9China 10,5 9,7 9,7 3,1 3,3 3,0 -1,9 -2,2 -2,1Source: OECD/IMF

GDP Growth Inflation Budget Balance

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1. Economic outlook: the consensus view.

2. Are we getting out of the mess: overview of developments in risk areas.

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2. Are we getting out of the mess? Overview of risk areas.

• Banking health.

• Confidence stable.

• Lending to private sector recovers.

• Profitability back but still vulnerable

• Stress tests reassuring but controversial.

• But exposure to risky assets remains significant.

• But funding gap remains wide.

• But new regulations create uncertainty.

• But many weaker banks remain dependent on ECB in some countries.

BANKS ARE RECOVERING BUT STILL VERY VULNERABLE, A LONG WAY TO GO

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2. Are we getting out of the mess? Overview of risk areas.

Central Banks balance sheets.

• Massive support during the crisis and no serious exit yet.

• Leading to inflation?

Conclusion: no hurry to exit, but what when M3 wakes up?

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2. Are we getting out of the mess? Overview of risk areas.

Government finances.

• Deficits and unsustainable debt levels.

• Deficits are structural: no easy way out.

Conclusion: Governments cannot continue to support the economy but have no other

option in case of (unexpected) further slowdown. A dangerous potential dilemma.

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2. Are we getting out of the mess? Overview of risk areas.

Economic divergence within EURO zone.

• Diverging performance.

• GDP growth: from top performers to PIGS.

• Unemployment.

• Government deficit.

• Government debt.

• Current account.

• Competitiveness.

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2. Are we getting out of the mess? Overview of risk areas.

EMU Netherlands Germany Belgium France Ireland Spain Portugal Italy Greece

GDP 1,5 1,9 1,0 1,7 1,6 4,4 2,8 1,2 0,6 3,4

Government debt (end 2009) 78,9 60,9 73,2 96,7 77,6 64,0 53,2 76,8 115,8 115,1

Unemployment (end 2009) 9,4 3,4 7,5 7,9 9,4 11,9 18,0 9,6 7,8 9,5

Government deficit -1,8 -0,8 -2,0 -1,0 -3,1 -0,6 -1,3 -4,0 -3,0 -5,9

Inflation 2,0 2,3 1,6 2,0 1,8 2,9 2,9 2,6 2,3 3,1

Current account 0,2 5,4 3,3 2,6 0,3 -2,1 -5,8 -9,2 -1,5 -9,0

ULC (2000 = 100) 120,2 124,6 106,9 123,1 121,1 134,0 131,4 127,0 132,2 137,6

Performance 1999-2009

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2. Are we getting out of the mess? Overview of risk areas.YIELD ON EMU GOVERNMENT BONDS 10Y

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Government Finances / Sovereign Debt crisis in Europe

• Divergence within EU: the EURO crisis.

• Crisis as a consequence.

• Political reaction

• Rescue package

• National Austerity Programs.

• Reform of Economic Governance.

2. Are we getting out of the mess? Overview of risk areas.

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Government Finances / Sovereign Debt crisis in Europe

• Divergence within EU: the EURO crisis

• Crisis as a consequence

• Political reaction.

CONCLUSION:

• PROBLEMS ARE UNDER CONTROL FOR THE TIME BEING BUT THE FUNDAMENTAL ISSUE OF COMPETITIVENESS IS FAR FROM RESOLVED;

• MARKETS DO NOT BELIEVE THIS IS A SOLUTION, ESPECIALLY FOR GREECE

• THIS ISSUE WILL CONTINUE TO WEIGHT ON EU ECONOMIES

• POLITICAL REACTIONS UNCREDIBLE SO FAR

2. Are we getting out of the mess? Overview of risk areas.

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Inflation/deflation

- Inflation on the rise worldwide.

- Pressures from commodities and monetary expansion.

- Core inflation remains low for the moment.

- Inflation expectations remain in check for the moment.

A REMAKE OF THE 2007-08 SCENARIO WITH INFLATION SURPRISE AS A TRIGGER FOR CRISIS?

2. Are we getting out of the mess? Overview of risk areas.

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2. Are we getting out of the mess? Overview of risk areas.

Global imbalances and geopolitical tensions/ protectionism.

• Imbalances in trade flows.

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Current Account Balances

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Current Account Balances

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2. Are we getting out of the mess? Overview of risk areas.

Global imbalances and geopolitical tensions/ protectionism.

• Imbalances in trade flows.

• Financial imbalances.

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2. Are we getting out of the mess? Overview of risk areas.US: NET FOREIGN ASSET POSITION OF THE US

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"-" indicates net debtor position of US w.r.t. rest of the World Source: Federal Reserve

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2. Are we getting out of the mess? Overview of risk areas.CHINA: GOLD AND FOREIGN RESERVES

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Source: Thomson Financial Datastream

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2. Are we getting out of the mess? Overview of risk areas.

Global imbalances and geopolitical tensions/ protectionism.

• Imbalances in trade flows.

• Financial imbalances.

AS A CONSEQUENCE TENDENCY TO NATIONALISM AND PROTECTIONISM: THE END OF GLOBALISATION?

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2. Are we getting out of the mess? Overview of risk areas.

• Banking health.

• Central Banks balance sheets.

• Government finances.

• Divergence within EMU – future of EURO.

• Inflation / deflation.

• Global imbalances and geopolitical stress / protectionism.

THE BIGGEST RISK: INTERCONNECTEDNESS AND POTENTIAL CHAIN REACTIONS.

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2. Are we getting out of the mess? Overview of risk areas.

DRAMA

Example of chain reactions.

Double dip

Deflation

Banking trouble

Government finance(Sovereign risk)

Euro crisis

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Conditions to support economic integration• Common culture• Neighbourhood • Complementarity• Political willingness

EU – RUSSIA ECONOMIC INTEGRATION HAS A HUGE POTENTIAL

3. Globalisation and EU – Russia relationship

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Thank you.