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For those of you not familiar with me,
my name is Jason Lucchesi (it’s
pronounced Lou-Casey). I currently
live in the Indianapolis, Indiana area
and have been in the real estate
business since 2002. I actually began
my career in the mortgage business.
I started off with a few local
mortgage brokerages, and at this
time in the mortgage business most
places didn’t really supply me or any
other “fresh fish” any real training to
become successful. I struggled for
quite a bit in the mortgage business.
At times I was working two jobs just to
keep with bills, car payment, food, etc. I began in the mortgage business
flourished when a recruiter called me out of the blue, and was to be interviewed
with a company Full Spectrum Lending, which was the subprime division of now-
infamous Countrywide Home Loans. I was hired by Countrywide in the late
summer of 2004, and within 30 days I began having great success! As a young
kid (I was in my early 20’s at the time), I was closing 7-10 (sometimes more)
loans every month. I truly loved life - at least I thought working 13-16 hour
days was loving life - and thought things couldn’t any better.
Within 12 months of becoming a loan officer, I was promoted into a
management position. At this time I was living in my hometown of Elgin, Illinois
(about 45 minutes north of Chicago), and when I received my promotion I
moved to Grand Rapids, Michigan to help a struggling branch get back on track.
It didn’t take long at all for me to work together with the branch employees to
figure out the problem, and we worked together as a team to get more loans
closed. Within 60 days of me coming into the branch we quickly went from
closing a mere 26 loans a month with 15 loan officers to 81 loans closed. I
wasn’t in Grand Rapids for too long to say the least. I was given another
promotion to help another struggling branch in Indianapolis, Indiana.
I thought life was grand at this point! I had a nice apartment, a really nice car,
my credit was stellar, I was putting 15% of my income into my 401k, I was
moving up the corporate ladder extremely fast (which was my goal at the time),
and I was helping out my Mother and Father with some of their expenses back
home. My so-called “dream life” came to a screeching halt when early 2007 our
then CEO made some negative comments in the news about the company. This
wasn’t good for the employees. Our stock was an all-time high of over $42, and
with the news it plummeted to around $12. Think about how this affected me…
I had been investing 15% of my income for the last four years, and every single
year I made at least $100,000 or more. The future that I was so tirelessly
building was now worth 71% LESS!!! I ended my career with Countrywide on
December 31, 2007. I did look back quite bit when I left, as I didn’t know where
to go. I thought I was going to be there until I retired. My life was a little hectic
at this point; I had just gotten married, and my first-born was due in April of
2008. I literally felt like a dump truck rolled over me, and then the driver looked
back, said “I don’t think we got him good enough!”
When I left countrywide I cashed out my 401k to help keep up with my bills. I
tried finding another job in any sales position available, but nobody wanted to
hire some kid without a college degree. I really didn’t know what to do at this
point. I was broke within 90 days, and didn’t want to ask Mom and Dad for help
(they didn’t have anything to help with, anyway). I kept my head held high
thought time for my wife’s sake. And in the second quarter of 2008 I started
investing full-time in real estate. It took me a little while to find my true passion,
which was in short sales, and since 2009 I’ve closed over 150+ short sales…
either buying them to quickly flip them for a profit or those cases in which my
company handled negotiations for other short sale investors in which we made a
profit.
In late 2010 I began diversifying my portfolio, and was investing in bank owned
properties and distressed assets in which I helped close 60+ note/bank owned
deals. I was in a position that a lot of Americans are in right now. What’s made
me successful has been the fact that I am always thinking “You can do this!!!”
Like you probably do now, I watched a LOT of webinars and thought “If these
guys can make money with real estate, and have all of this freedom to spend
time with their families, then I can to!” The fire in my belly was lit back up
again, and nothing was going to beat me down… I WAS GOING TO BE
SUCCESSFUL!
Clint Keller, co-creator of the Asset
Manager Millions program, has been
actively investing in real estate since 2006.
Clint graduated Magna Cum Laude in 2008
with a Bachelor's degree in Finance from
the University of Southern Indiana. He has
been involved in over 100+ real estate
transactions and currently resides in
Evansville, IN as full-time real estate
investor and mentor. He has been involved in many diverse real estate
transactions, including but not limited to: short sales, bank REOs, government
owned properties, tax liens, tax deeds, contract sales, residential leases, and
residential lease options. Besides real estate, Clint is a health and fitness
enthusiast, and enjoys working out, cooking, playing sports, and spending time
with his friends and family. He accredits a majority of his success to his creative,
positive can-do attitude, and his network of friends and mentors who share the
same positive mindset as he does.
OVERVIEW OF HUD AND NAVIGATING THE LOOPHOLE.
First off, what is HUD? And what exactly is
the Loophole? Well, HUD stands for the US
Department of Housing and Urban
Development and it is the primary housing
and lending regulatory authority in the
United States. HUD is responsible for the
operations of the Federal Housing
Administration (FHA), which is the agency
that insures mortgage lenders against a
loss on FHA home loans. When an FHA borrower defaults on their mortgage, the
lender initiates the foreclosure process. HUD becomes the owner of the
properties after foreclosure is completed and after the lender has made a claim
against the FHA insurance fund for payment of the remaining balance of the
loan. What is an FHA loan you might ask? FHA loans are loans that are often
approved for borrowers whose credit scores fall as low as 580 and are designed
to help a greater number of potential buyers achieve the dream of owning their
own home. The low interest rates, smaller down payment figures and greater
leniency when it comes to credit scores are all strategies that the FHA uses to
help boost the country's home ownership rate. It is the largest insurer of
mortgages in the world, insuring over 34 million properties since its inception in
1934. The FHA and HUD have insured over 34 million home mortgages and
47,205 multifamily project mortgages since 1934. FHA currently has
approximately 4.8 million insured single-family mortgages and 13,000 insured
multifamily projects in its portfolio.
Opportunity!!! HUD has a vast amount of these loans that are currently going
into default and are being listed on the open market at staggering discounts,
especially in markets where there is higher than average unemployment. In this
eBook we will look at this opportunity in a little more detail discussing some of
the hidden opportunities that exist today as well as into the future, for those that
know about it, and more importantly act on the opportunity that is available for
the taking.
HUD wants to sell the property as quickly as possible and recover as much of the
claim amount as it can to replenish the FHA insurance fund. Since 1999, HUD
has hired Management and Marketing (M&M) Contractors, such as Hometelos,
HUD Pemco, & Ofori & Associates, to name just a few, to maintain and sell these
HUD-owned single-family residential properties. These contractors and asset
managers, following HUD guidelines, are responsible for all aspects of property
care and resale on behalf of HUD.
HUD has established four main listing periods that you should be aware of, and
pay very close attention to, as many properties can be snatched up if you know
what specifically to look for. The listing period is determined by several factors
including: the type of property being sold, the bid open date, and how long the
home has been on the market. These four listing periods are as follows:
Lottery (7 days):
All uninsured homes start in the Lottery period. The only insured homes
that start in the Lottery period are insured single-unit properties in a
revitalization area.
Exclusive (no investor bidding):
Insured properties (30 days): Insured properties not in a revitalization
area begin their listing periods here. For insured homes that are single-
unit properties in a revitalization area, the Exclusive period follows the
Lottery period. The next listing period is the Extended period.
Uninsured properties (5 days): All uninsured properties enter this 5-
day Exclusive period after the Lottery period. The next listing period is
the Extended period.
Extended (180 days listed):
This listing period ends after the property has been listed for a total of 180
days. The next listing period is the Dollar listing period for homes that
have an as-is appraisal value of $1 to $25,000. Those homes whose value
is zero dollars or greater than $25,000 dollars remain in what becomes an
open-ended Extended listing period.
Dollar (Government purchase only):
This listing period is ten (10) days and is for homes that have an as-is
appraisal value of $1 to $25,000. After the $1 listing period, the home enters
an Extended-listing period that has no ending date (except when the home
is purchased or reanalyzed). Government agencies can still purchase the
home for $1 after that home leaves the $1 listing period and enters the
Extended listing period.
IE = Insurable with repair escrow. This property requires repairs estimated
to cost no more than $5,000; it is eligible for an FHA-insured loan provided
the purchaser's lender sets up a repair escrow at closing.
IN = Insurable. This property is eligible for an FHA-insured loan in its current
condition.
UI = Uninsured. This property requires repairs estimated to cost more than
$5,000; it is not eligible for an FHA-insured loan, unless a Section 203(k)
loan can be arranged.
These listing periods are very important to understand, as HUD properties that
expire within a certain listing period are open for investor bidding, aka “Extended
Period” for those that know exactly when these listing periods end and begin.
Some of your biggest discounts HUD will accept come after the
property has been listed for 90 days on market. The days on market
figure can be determined by finding the listing date of the property
noted on the HUDHomestore.com site, and figuring how many days
from today’s current date that the property as been listed on the open
market.
If you are purchasing a home to live in as your primary residence, and
have not purchased a HUD home before, you can bid on properties
within the Exclusive period and pick up a great deal here as an owner
occupant!
1. Many real estate agents do not like selling them, because they either:
! Don’t understand the process
! Are not motivated by the limited commissions HUD sets
! Do not like filling out the vast amount of paperwork
! Don’t have buyers that can see past the minor or major repairs
needed so selling move in ready houses are more attractive to some
agents
2. There is little competition. Many buyers do not know about them or
simply cannot see past the minor or major repairs that will substantially
increase the property’s value. Although unethical, some agents do not list
the property on the local MLS and hide them from potential buyers
because they want both sides of the commission. The Hudhomestore.com
site will show all HUD properties available, but many buyers do not know
about this site, and do not know how to properly and efficiently navigate
the site for massive success.
3. No title seasoning. HUD properties can be sold immediately with no deed
restrictions! We will discuss several incredible exit strategies to help you
sell your properties lightning fast!
4. Listing / Value Errors: Often times, agents and or asset managers
representing HUD will input listing and or value errors on the
HUDhomestore.com site and or MLS listing. These errors can include
square footage, bedrooms, bathrooms, lots size, mapping location,
included appliances, and condition of property just to name a few. Those
that know how to look for these errors and more importantly, know how to
capitalize on them, will succeed in this business. We recommend
comparing the listing and HUD site information with your local county
assessor and or MLS, or more importantly, going out to view the property
in person (or hiring an agent to do so) to compare and contrast these
possible errors in person. In terms of value errors, it is very common that
the appraiser who performed the valuation on the property was an “out of
town” appraiser, and sometimes do not provide an accurate valuation of
the property. More times than not, the appraisers undervalue the
suggested list price of the property, which HUD sets initially to sell the
home for. These conservative values can be goldmines with built-in equity
right from the start.
5. Instant Equity. With the strategies in this eBook, you can be awarded
HUD properties for upwards of 80% off of list price! Many properties will
see discounts of 20% to 35% off of list price, which can be tens of
thousands of dollars in instant equity!
One very important thing to keep in mind is that HUD looks at their NET amount
that they receive on a closed transaction, meaning after closing costs,
commission, credits etc. When bidding on properties, use this to your
advantage. Under Extended Period, we have found that in most markets, HUD
will usually take 85% NET to HUD of the current list price. We never choose to
have HUD pay for any closing costs in the bidding process.
Use HUD’s designated closing agent to minimize title and closing costs
fees as HUD will pay a majority of the fees, including title insurance, if
you elect to use their title company. We usually discount the selling
commission slightly when submitting bids to show a willingness to
negotiate
HUD looks to really move the properties after the 90 DOM period. Your
biggest discounts will be obtained once the property has been listed on
the market for at least 90 days in most cases.
Last 2 digits of confirmation number will give you a very good indication of how
many bidders are bidding on that property. This number will indeed increase if
someone repeat bids or withdraws a bid.
We have found that HUD will generally offer bigger discounts on “Uninsured”
properties vs. Insured properties, as the “Uninsured” properties are perceived as
harder to sell as they need repairs and updates for them to qualify for
conventional and or FHA financing. Do to the fact that they are perceived as
harder to sell, can open up an incredible opportunity for investors to bid on these
properties, secure them at a great discount, and cash in big with several
different exit strategies.
Always choose the option to “Hold Offer as Backup Offer.” By choosing
this option, you will be first in line if another bidders bid, that is higher
than yours, does not go through with filling out the paperwork
properly, or simply does not fill it out correctly according to HUD’s
strict requirements. This happens all the time, so make absolute sure
you check this box to put yourself in the best position possible.
Bid your strongest on Thursday or Friday to take advantage of the weekend to
do your due diligence and get your paperwork into HUD. HUD requires that you
get your paperwork into them within 48 BUSINESS hours, which leaves you
Saturday and Sunday to do additional research on the property and get your
paperwork in accordingly.
We have found that HUD generally accepts offers at 11am and counters offers
around 3pm within the same time zone as the property being sold on the site
that you are bidding on.
" Look at Property Condition Report and Repair Escrow document to get a
very good indication of how nice the property is. These documents can be
found under the “Addendum” tab within the HUDHomestore.com site.
" Is the property in “Insured” or “Uninsured” status? Pay close attention to
this information and compare them to the property’s pictures. The pictures
do not tell the whole story, but comparing the pictures to the Property
Condition Report, Repair Escrow document, and property condition status
will give you a very good overall feel of the property’s condition. We also
recommend performing a Google street search or Google Earth search to
determine if property is in “war zone.” A war zone is an area with lower
income, high crime, with dilapidated buildings and properties that we
typically avoid, unless we are getting a property at a price that we cannot
simply pass up.
" Perform a county search on property to see any previous sold prices of the
property. In order to do this, determine the county the property is located
in, and perform a Google search for that county’s assessor site. Look
within the Property search field to research a particular property’s
information. We use county assessor sites to cross reference details about
the property’s structure, bedrooms, bathrooms, sqft, lot size, sold comps,
assessed value etc. as well. The county website can be a great tool for
referencing property information.
" Perform a search on Eppraisal.com, Zillow.com, and or REIBlackbook.com
to determine another opinion of value to increase your success and
minimize risk.
" Perform an MLS search on the property to pull similar sold comparable
properties and see previous sold prices.
You will want to double check the
property descriptions mentioned on the
HUDHomestore.com site for listing
errors. We have found that HUD makes
quite a few errors in improperly listing
properties on their site. These errors can
be huge opportunities for the savvy
observant investor!
Compare the Property Condition report
to what you see at the property. Pay
close attention to the main components
of the house, including: roof, foundation,
HVAC, AC unit, electrical panel,
plumbing pipes, and any visible mold.
Observe the neighborhood closely,
particularly the houses adjacent to the subject property you are interested in.
Drive the neighborhood and look for any nearby schools, parks, hospitals, that
may increase your property’s value and entice future buyers or tenants for your
property.
Ask neighbors about the house if they are outside. The neighbors will usually tell
you everything wrong with the house. Don’t be scared off by negativity though,
as neighbors will usually disclose to you nothing but negativity. Simply use this
information to your advantage, but do not be scared off by it. Pay close attention
to anything they mention that may be a major concern, including foundation
issues or Environmental issues with the property.
If you are a rookie investor, we recommend getting a home inspection done,
especially if price is substantial or you don’t feel comfortable moving forward
with your own observations and opinions.
Most home inspectors don’t warranty their inspection. If you have a
solid reputable contractor on your team, take them to the house. Pay
them for their time or simply use them for the needed repairs to the
property.
HUD will typically do a listing price reduction at 30, 60, 90 and 180 days on
market. The price reduction will usually be by 10% or $5,000. For example: A
property with a current list price of $50,000 will be reduced to $40,000 at 30
days on market or $45,000. (Usually depends on bidding activity.)
Sometimes, at the discretion of the asset manager or listing agent, HUD will
order a new appraisal on a property at the 90 days on market mark or later. HUD
will then list the property on the site for this new updated appraisal amount,
which is almost always a reduced price from the original list price. This 90 days
on market period and after, is when HUD really starts to push the property to
sell. Your biggest discounts will be secured after this pertinent DOM period!
Use HUD’s closing agent to save on closing fees etc. If you are performing an A
to B, B to C double closing, we recommend using your own investor approved
title company for both closings who understands the process, and whom can
save you on closing costs by handling both closings.
Most title companies will waive title insurance and or title search and
examination on one of the closings, especially if you start to send them
a lot of business! Find an investor friendly title company, interview
them and get them on your team immediately.
If the amount needed to fund the deal is over $10k, (In Indiana), the funds must
be wired to the title company. Check with your own state to see any specific
funding requirements. If the funding amount is below $10k, the funds can be
provided in the form of a cashiers check. Once you have sent in your paperwork
to HUD’s designated asset manager, and have a completed ratified sales
contract, we recommend scheduling your closing for a date approximately one
week before your contract deadline. We do this so that a HUD-1 Settlement
statement can be sent over for review so that fees, tax proration’s, commissions,
can be double checked so there are no last minute surprises before closing.
HUD requires notification at least 5 days prior to your scheduled
closing date. After closing, if you plan to hold on to the property, make
sure the listing agent marks house as SOLD in MLS, especially if your
exit strategy is to sell the property immediately to a cash or liquid
buyer. Listing agents often times forget to mark the property as sold,
and the listing will show up in online searches at the last list price.
Our typical initial bidding strategy for properties that are listed within the
Extended period is as follows (for properties that are 0 to 89 Days On Market):
2 Bedroom - 40% NET TO HUD
3 Bedroom - 50% NET TO HUD
4 Bedroom - 60% NET TO HUD
We always make sure to round up to the next $50.00 or so to make sure to have
the NET to HUD to be slightly over these percentage thresholds.
HUD may elect to accept, cancel, or counter your offer bids. If HUD counters any
offer at a NET to HUD of less than 70% - we take a closer look at the property!
If the deal makes sense at HUD’s counter offer, and money can be made, we
move on it. If not, we continue to bid on the property, usually in $50 increments,
up to the point that we feel comfortable that money can be made.
If a particular property has been listed for 90+ DOM.. we start to bid every
single day, increasing our offer usually in $50 increments, depending on how bad
we want the property.
In some instances, it is necessary to pay more than what HUD is asking for the
property, either via their list price, or via their counter offer to you. When comps
clearly show that the property can be wholesaled for a comfortable profit, when
you have a solid buyer lined up already (usually one who is willing to put down a
hard non refundable deposit or has provided a solid proof of funds letter), or you
simply know the market. We overbid list price on properties when the list price
comes in extremely conservative, which does happen quite often. We
recommend overbidding on the property slightly while discounting the selling
agent commission for best possible chances of winning the bid.
Within this eBook, we have unveiled the curtain on some of the incredible tips
and tricks we use in our own business to locate, qualify, and secure unbelievable
deals on HUD properties so that you can make a substantial amount of money.
We encourage you to take this knowledge and use it in your own business to
your full advantage. To purchase the full version of our Government Loophole
Magic online training course where you will learn step by step techniques that we
use to not only find unbelievable deals, but how to sell your properties lightning
fast, navigate the jungle of HUD’s paperwork, hire a virtual assistant to run the
entire business for you on autopilot, and find out how you can partner with us on
deals that we teach you how to find, visit www.getglm.com. If you have any
questions, feel free to contact us at [email protected].
Thanks and Make it a GREAT day!
Clint Keller & Jason Lucchesi
Creators of Government Loophole Magic