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Copyright © 2019 Doug Addison and InLight Connection. All Rights Reserved. The Power of Grace in the Court of Heaven Doug Addison with Katie Souza [Episode 95] September 18, 2019 Hey everybody, Doug Addison here, welcome to Spirit Connection! This is where we’re gonna be talking about the deep things of God. In fact, I felt like this is the week we’re gonna go into the deep end, whether you can swim or not. And I’m excited for what’s going on right now, just in the world, even though it might look like things are a rough time right now, God has it all under control. And I believe that the attacks we’re seeing are to get you to quit. That’s the thing right now, is to get you to quit. I want to encourage you to hang in there, to stay with it. Because we’re on the verge of a big breakthrough both as a Church, as a nation, I believe as individuals and ministries, businesses. I believe this, and that’s why I keep saying to people, I send out my Daily Prophetic Words, I do things that encourage people because the Lord told me a while ago, the tests we’re under right now is to see if you’d quit. My goodness, you know, if you’re still here, if you’re still listening to my voice, there’s a good chance that you have not failed the test. And if you did quit, my goodness, what do you do? Anyway, I’m just sayin’. I’m so excited, I have a special guest on today. It’s my good friend, Katie Souza. She’s been on our broadcast a couple of times. Katie has a ministry called Expected End Ministries. She was a career criminal most of her life, and she’d done some stuff, she served time. Now, I tell you, she has a strong anointing. My goodness, actually I got a hold of one of her audios years ago, my wife and I, that the Glory Light audio that changed our lives. We were driving along, and somebody said to us, “Why not play this Katie Souza thing.” And we played it, and it was, what I would say was a new wineskin for inner healing. At that time when I listened to it, I said, “Man, this is good stuff.” It was several years ago. Then I had this dream that I meet a woman who had been in prison, and she helped me to get out. And here we are, we have Katie, we are friends now. And she lives in

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The Power of Grace in the Court of Heaven

Doug Addison with Katie Souza [Episode 95]

September 18, 2019

Hey everybody, Doug Addison here, welcome to Spirit Connection! This is where we’re gonna be talking about the deep things of God. In fact, I felt like this is the week we’re gonna go into the deep end, whether you can swim or not. And I’m excited for what’s going on right now, just in the world, even though it might look like things are a rough time right now, God has it all under control. And I believe that the attacks we’re seeing are to get you to quit. That’s the thing right now, is to get you to quit. I want to encourage you to hang in there, to stay with it. Because we’re on the verge of a big breakthrough both as a Church, as a nation, I believe as individuals and ministries, businesses. I believe this, and that’s why I keep saying to people, I send out my Daily Prophetic Words, I do things that encourage people because the Lord told me a while ago, the tests we’re under right now is to see if you’d quit. My goodness, you know, if you’re still here, if you’re still listening to my voice, there’s a good chance that you have not failed the test. And if you did quit, my goodness, what do you do? Anyway, I’m just sayin’. I’m so excited, I have a special guest on today. It’s my good friend, Katie Souza. She’s been on our broadcast a couple of times. Katie has a ministry called Expected End Ministries. She was a career criminal most of her life, and she’d done some stuff, she served time. Now, I tell you, she has a strong anointing. My goodness, actually I got a hold of one of her audios years ago, my wife and I, that the Glory Light audio that changed our lives. We were driving along, and somebody said to us, “Why not play this Katie Souza thing.” And we played it, and it was, what I would say was a new wineskin for inner healing. At that time when I listened to it, I said, “Man, this is good stuff.” It was several years ago. Then I had this dream that I meet a woman who had been in prison, and she helped me to get out. And here we are, we have Katie, we are friends now. And she lives in

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Arizona with her husband, Robert. She teaches, produces, she’s got a TV show, she does prison ministry and amazing things. I tell you, I’ve seen miracles that you would not even believe your eyes. All right, Katie, welcome to the show! Katie: Hey Doug, how are you doing? Awesome! I’m so happy to be here! Doug: Yeah! So, you’re in Arizona right now? Katie: I am. I’m actually home especially for this so I could be here, so we could hang

out. Doug: Yeah! My goodness, we’ve become friends, and your ministry has really helped

me, actually during my time … I went through this time of chemical sensitivity and healing, and it was your ministry, you and your ministry, that really helped restore me, and I’m really grateful for you guys.

Katie: Well, you definitely paid us back. I mean, I’ve had many times when I’ve had an issue, and I, right away, I go, “I need to text Doug.” I text you, and you always have an answer for me.

Doug: Wow. Katie: So … and you’ve always found stuff that I had no clue even existed. I was like,

wow, I didn’t see that before until you pointed it out. And then I get the resolution. So, you’ve been a really good friend to us.

Doug: Yeah! You know, and we’ve been flowing … there’s some people … you know,

some people, we minister together, and people will become friends. And then there’s some that where you’re paralleling. It’s like, wow, you’re going through the same thing. Like we got on the phone today, and like, we should talk more often! Because where two agree together it will be done, you know …

Katie: Yes. Doug: … and there’s a power in agreement where we’re living things out. And I had a

dream … not a dream, it was an encounter with the Lord and a dream. And I had my heavenly office, I was in my heavenly office, and Katie Souza was given an office right next to mine in the Court of Heaven. And so, I had actually texted her that she started to move in this area of the Courts of Heaven in prayer and things like that. Remember that?

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Katie: Oh man, that was huge. Okay, because like I can remember you sent me this text, it goes, okay … You said, “You have an office next to mine in the Courts of Heaven. You’re gonna start to move in it.” You gave me the Zechariah scripture, right, and all that, and I’m thinking to myself, “What? I know nothing about the Courts of Heaven. What are you talking about?” Right? And right after that, it’s like, bam! It got birthed in me. I got, you know, like, I’m not the creator or originator of the courts in heaven out of revelation. But man, since that moment you texted me, God has given me my own stuff, and I’m like moving in it big time. So, it was like, that was like a total prophetic word given right at the exact moment. So, I think I mention you, like two or three times in my new book because …

Doug: All right! Katie: … Yeah, yeah! Doug: Yeah, well, it’s powerful because, you know, the Bible’s really clear. It says what

you bind on Earth is bound in Heaven, what you loose on Earth is loosed in Heaven. And we’re moving into a time right now where we’re interacting on Earth as it is in Heaven.

Katie: Yeah. Doug: So, and people aren’t understanding this, but I believe that we’re moving into this

place where … like you would do, I heard you would, people tell me too, that you would do a time where you would take people into the Courts of Heaven. So you’re on Earth, and you’re interacting in Heaven at the same time on people’s behalf, and you see things happen.

Katie: Yeah, I mean, you know, it says we’re seated in heavenly realms in Christ, right?

So … and our spirit’s eternal … Doug: Right. Katie: … so we can operate in the spirit realm while we’re still here on Earth. I mean,

Jesus talked about it, I think it’s John 4, where He says, you know, no one has ever seen the Father but the One who descended from Heaven, who is also ascended in Heaven.

Doug: Right. Yeah.

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Katie: And so, He was saying, you know, I came down from Heaven, and I’m here operating in this realm. I’m also ascended in Heaven at the same time. So we can actually be here, but our spirit can be operating where we’re at, where we are actually been decreeing that we’re seated in heavenly realms with Christ, and we’re citizens in Heaven. So yeah, I mean, you know, we do it by faith, right?

Doug: Right. Katie: But it is actually happening in that realm, in the heavenly realms, while we’re

here on Earth decreeing it, so … Doug: Yeah. I believe that decree, what you say there. That’s the key. It’s like a legal

document. And you know, when I was doing all my research, you know, and I, you know, on how to do this stuff. And I noticed that when Jesus interacted with Satan in the wilderness, He used the Bible to decree. But it was almost like they were two lawyers. They were arguing the Word! You know, they were arguing the Word, back and forth, like they were in a court of Heaven. It says this. Oh, but it says this! I’ll trump you on that one, you know …

Katie: Whoa … Doug: It’s powerful. Katie: That’s very good insight. It’s very true. Doug: It’s very powerful when we just use anything in here, I tell you, anything. Even the

weird stuff. Anything in here, in the Bible, is like a legal document. And … Katie: Yeah. Doug: … that’s why, be careful how you pray, you know … Katie: Right? I know. For real. Decree a thing and it shall be established … Doug: That’s exactly right. I was just studying … Katie: … you know, and that’s what’s important in courtroom language … Doug: Yeah. Katie: … too, because things are established in court when a decree is written or made

in the court, right? I remember a big, simple revelation that I got that was just

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something in just the natural was, like … I used to say, well why do we need to go to court? Well, I thought about my life on the street, right? I mean, when I would get arrested, which I got arrested dozens of times, okay. I would get arrested, and then they would take me to a hearing, and I would post a bail bond, right? And so that I could get out. But it was on the premise that I would return to court to face the charges against me. So, I would get bailed out, and then I would never go back. So, what would happen was, is like, because I didn’t show up to court, they would then issue a warrant for my arrest. And when the next time I ran into the police, I would get arrested because I didn’t go to court. It’s like God used that as a simple way to tell me, this is why you need to go to court. Because whoever doesn’t go to court loses.

Doug: Right. Katie: Whoever doesn’t show up to a court case loses. Doug: Yeah! That’s incredible insight. Of course, if anyone has been into court or

anything, they can understand that type of thing. I actually got called for jury duty … that was just a few weeks ago. I spent a day and a half observing. Now they didn’t choose me to be on it. But I think the Lord put me there to really get a deeper understanding of how things work. How the justice system works.

Katie: Yeah, that’s good. Doug: The justice system of Heaven. So anyway, there’s been so much stuff. You’ve

written a couple of books and, you know, we’ll talk about that in just a bit. But what’s going on right now? Are you getting anything from the Lord?

Katie: Well there’s been a couple of things. I mean, we’re fighting the spirit of death,

which has been one of the biggest battles you’ve ever had. But I’m seeing a lot of success in that, and it has to do with the courts.

Doug: Right. Katie: Taking the spirit of death to court. Doug: Yeah.

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Katie: And, I mean, I just was in Minnesota, and I had a woman come up behind me and tug on the back of my shirt. And I turned around and when I looked at her, I almost gasped because she was so sucked up. I mean her skin was black and like gray, she had no life in her. Her bones were sticking out of her body. She looked horrible. And I said, “What can I help you with?” And she said, “I am dying! My body is dying!” And then she began to tell me about how she had radon poisoning, mold poisoning and all these things. And they treated her, but she never recovered.

And so she said, “Now I have no strength, no energy, my body’s getting sucked

up more and more. I can’t eat. I’m dying, literally.” And as she was telling me this, I saw a vision of myself grabbing her shoulders and violently shaking her and commanding the spirit of death to come out. So when she was done telling me her story, I went, “Well, to tell you the truth, I just saw myself doing something kind of radical to you. Are you okay with me doing that?” And she goes, “Yes! Do it! I’m ready, I came here to get healed.” And so I grabbed her and I said, “Death come out!” And I shook her violently and said that like six or seven times. And then, boom! She went down like a tree, right?

Doug: Wow. Katie: And then she started crying. I was like, oh no … I think I hurt her. Right? So I’m

decreeing life over her now, I’m saying “Life come into your organs. Life come into your body.” And then she finally stopped, and when she opened her eyes I said, “What’s happened?” And she looked at her daughter and she said, “Did you see that?” And I was like, “What?” And she goes, “That big puff of smoke, black smoke that came out of me!”

Doug: Wow … Katie: She got delivered of death. Doug: Yeah. Katie: And the next day I saw her, she came, I didn’t even recognize her. She looked

completely different in 24 hours. She said, “I got up this morning, I had no problem getting ready. I did my own hair.” She goes, “When I was walking through the parking lot with my family, coming to the church, I was the fastest one, I walked faster than everybody else. I stood in the front and I worshiped, and I danced and I sang the whole worship session. I went to lunch, I ate my whole lunch. I was famished.” She goes, “I feel terrific.” She goes, “I know I got

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delivered of death. I came here to live.” And so that was all about, you know, part of that was about taking death to court.

Doug: Yeah. That is so powerful. Now, for your friends out there, don’t try this, you

know, unless someone … Katie: I was just gonna say that … Doug: … gives you the permission … Katie: … don’t do something … Doug: … and the Lord … Katie: … unless you’re told and shown by the Holy Spirit. Doug: Yeah, by the Lord. Katie: And just because it worked on one woman doesn’t mean that you go and you do

that to everyone. Doug: Absolutely. I had someone pray for me … they come up to me. Now I always ask

… A woman, years ago, one of our first meetings in Hollywood, and she said, “Do you mind if I pray for you because I just saw someone healed.” I wasn’t even sick at the time, you know, and I was just, “Okay.” Well now I ask because she hit me in the chest so hard that her handprint was there. And I went down, lost my breath, went down, and she’s checking for my pulse. And there was like a red handprint on my chest. And I got up and I said, “I don’t think that was the Lord!” And ever since then, I’ve always asked.

There’s times … again … listen, when I got healed of Huntington’s disease, you

know, it was a death sentence over me. It started by a meeting in 1999 when John Paul Jackson called people forward. I didn’t even know I had it. And John Paul Jackson called people forward in a meeting, and he said, “There’s people here who’ve had multiple deaths in your family.” I went up, and he slugged me. I flew … he slugged me in the stomach … I flew ten feet, I kid you not. Ten feet and the spirit of death flew off of me. And within two years, I was totally healed of Huntington’s. But it started with that act of faith.

Katie: Whoa.

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Doug: Again, don’t try it unless it’s, the Lord really tells you. And like you said. But there’s something powerful that we’re moving into. I love your stories. Let’s go for it right now. Keep going.

Katie: Yeah, so since we’re on that topic, should we just continue on that topic? Doug: Absolutely. Katie: Okay, yeah, well, you know, it’s like why do we have to take death to court?

Because the reason death is able to attack us is because we broke the Law, and that sin allows death. So I’ll just read this very eye-opening scripture. Okay, it’s Romans 7:5 in the Amplified Classic. It says, this is Paul talking, it says, “When we were living in the flesh in our physical lives, the sinful passions that were awakened and aroused by what the Law makes sin …” Did you hear that? By what the Law makes sin. “… we’re constantly operating in our bodily organs so that we bore fruit for death.”

So you see, when we break the Law, we sin by breaking the Law, it allows death

to produce fruit in our bodily organs. So when you break the Law, what does that mean? You have to go to court, right, for breaking the Law. That Satan is called “the accuser of the brethren,” I think accuser is, or the adversary, is antidikos, it means one who brings a lawsuit, right? So he brings a lawsuit against us in court. And so he goes to court and he says, “Well, they broke the Law here, and they broke the Law there.” And the thing is, this is a foolproof strategy on his part because it’s impossible to keep the whole Law. That’s what the Bible says in James.

Okay, so he can go into the court and say they broke the Law here and there,

and then he gets a judgment against us, and that allows the spirit of death to attack our “bodily organs.” So it’s basically, you know, in the simplicity, that death is able to cause aging, disease, disorders, sicknesses, inflammations, anything else because we’ve broken the Law, and then Satan is able to accuse us of breaking the Law. So that’s why we have to take that to court.

Doug: Yeah, so there’s a balance in here, what I’m hearing you say, because some

people who don’t understand say, well, that sounds like Old Testament. But I guess what you’re saying then is the Old Testament is “the Law,” right, and that’s where the sin … but when you bring it to court, you’re bringing it under the New Covenant. Is that …?

Katie: Yeah, you’re bringing it in the New Covenant. What you’re doing is, for me, I’ve

learned that I have to take death into a specific court. And that is the Grace

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Court. And I’ll tell you why. And as I tell you this, I don’t want people to think that I’ve gone into some crazy-grace message, where I don’t think we need to repent for our sins, because you know … Jesus said repent, the kingdom of Heaven is near, you know, He said repent and times of refreshing shall come. There’s all kinds of scriptures that talk about repentance.

But the thing about it is, is that because we can never keep the whole Law, Satan is always accusing us of it. But that’s why we need to go into a particular court, and it’s called the Grace Court because, according to the Bible, grace supersedes and overcomes every time that we break the Law. So I’ll just give you an example, it’s in Romans 5:20. This is in the Amplified Classic. It says, “But then the Law came in to expand and increase the trespass, but where sin increases and abounded, grace, God’s unmerited favor, has surpassed it, increased the more and superabounded.” See, grace superabounds and surpasses every time we break the Law.

There is in Heaven what’s called the Grace Court. It’s in Hebrews 4:16. It says, “Come boldly before the throne of grace to receive grace and mercy in your time of need.” Okay, so why is that a court? Because the word, thronos, means “a judge’s bench.” So it’s not just the throne God’s sitting upon as God. It’s also the bench, the judge’s bench, that God—the Judge of all the Earth—sits on in a courtroom called Grace. When you go there, you can go boldly before the throne of Grace. So any believer can go into this particular type of courtroom. And when we go boldly before the Judge of all the Earth, that courtroom is administrated according to the grace.

And grace, what’s good about grace is this; is that grace is the power that

imparts everything Jesus won for us on the Cross. So it says, you know, by grace through faith we are saved. So it’s our faith activates this power of grace that enables us to receive everything Jesus won in our-, allows us to have salvation. So when we partake of grace, we’re partaking of what Christ won for us on the Cross. And the Bible says that Jesus fulfilled all the righteous requirements of the Law for us.

So when we’re partaking of grace in the Grace Court, that means that He fulfilled the Law for us, and that we can go against the enemy. And we can say, “Wow, we’re in the Grace Court. You’ re accusing us of breaking the Law, and death is attacking our body. But hey, I’ve got grace, so that grace is gonna superabound and increase even more than my sin, and wipe out that Law charge that’s against me, thus death is gonna have to let go.

Doug: This is so deep, yet simple, right?

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Katie: Right. Doug: And powerful. Based on the Word. And it’s probably one of the most simplistic

explanations of the Court of Heaven. You did better than, you know, I talk about the Court of Heaven all the time. That was so good because you talk about what’s gonna happen if we don’t go, first of all. That’s why we stay sick. We get hit. And people say how can a loving God cause all of, you know, let those things happen? Well, it’s-, God’s not a dictator. He doesn’t force his Word or His will or His ways, so we have to exercise it.

I love the use of the Grace Court. That’s a place to start. That’s where most people go, is come before the throne boldly, the throne of grace. I love the study that you did of the Greek on that, and that is such a powerful explanation. Now let’s just go a little bit deeper on it.

Katie: Yeah. Okay, so think about it. Like, it says come boldly before the throne of grace

that you may receive grace and mercy in your time of need. The Bible says mercy triumphs over judgment. So see, in this Grace Court, anybody can go, any believer. Because, I don’t know, I mean, you can jump in and tell me how you feel about that. But there are certain courtrooms that I don’t think everyone’s allowed into. You know?

But in this courtroom, because it says come boldly, that means that anyone can

go. And it can go just at the very simplest level. You can walk in there say wow, I can be in here because the Bible says I can come boldly before the throne of grace to receive grace and mercy in my time of need. I know that, even if I have sinned, I’ll receive grace which supersedes and overcomes the Law, right, according to that scripture. So no matter if I screwed up or not, I’m still gonna be able to win my case. And I’ll receive mercy even if I screwed up or not because mercy always triumphs over judgment. So this is like the most basic level, easiest court that anyone can go into. So whenever Satan is accusing us of anything, we can head right towards the Grace Court.

Doug: That’s exactly right. And I do tell people, be careful where you go, you know, if

you’re going in and praying, and doing things in Heaven. Not to be afraid or anything, but be careful where you go. There are certain places that, like the Daniel 7 court is like the supreme court. You don’t wanna just pop in there, you know, for a minor violation. You gotta be proficient. But this is, you’re exactly right, Katie. This is, even believer or non-believer alike, can go to this place. Some people actually find the Lord there at the throne of grace.

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Katie: Yeah. Right, and that’s the thing about it, is even if you don’t understand how to go into the court or the whole processes, but you know you need to. Because if you’re like me, and I know you are, but I believe other people are too, you can feel when the devil’s accusing you because your body starts hurting, you start to feel the swirl in your brain …

Doug: My ears ring. Katie … right, right, that’s like, I get body pain, your ears ring, I get body pain. I get

neck pain, back pain, I’ll get, you know, different areas of my body that feel like they’re under attack. And it’s like I’ve learned that, God told me when you feel those things, Satan’s standing in the court right at that moment accusing you.

And so any believer, if they’re starting to feel any type of swirl in their life, or confusion hit their mind, or their body gets attacked, or under pain, or they feel some sign of indication that they’re being accused, it’s probably that’s what it is. Satan is standing in the court right at that moment accusing them of breaking the Law and trying to put the spirit of death on their bodily organs at that moment to attack them.

So because it’s the Grace Court, there’s a lot of grace for a new believer who

doesn’t know how to operate in the courts to just go in and say, “Wow, I throw myself under the grace and mercy of this court, knowing that even if I don’t do the proper procedures exactly right, you know the courtroom procedures, that I’ll still be under grace, and I’ll still be able to win my case because grace will always triumph over the Law.”

Doug: Yep, exactly. And, you know, I don’t, I don’t take things lightly. Even as a prophet,

as a Courts of Heaven prophet, that means I operate, you know, on people’s behalf. I’ve been doing it for a long time. And one thing I’ve noticed, that even myself, is I don’t take it lightly. You know, when I go to pray, I enter through the Court of Grace. And then I say, “Lord, search me.” Psalm 139 I think it is, search me, test me and know my anxious thoughts. I stop for a moment, and because I wanna cleanse myself. And if I find anything, fine. Then 1 John 1:9 kicks in, you know, He’s faithful and just to forgive you of your sins, purify you of all unrighteousness. So I actually take that moment, if there’s even the smallest thing, I just say, “Lord, forgive me,” you know. And then I get that, now you’re under 1 John 1:9, that you’re purified from all unrighteousness. Then, the prayers of a righteous person are powerful and effective.

So see, you’ve actually by that act of grace, the simple Court of Grace, puts you

in line to probably one of the more powerful principles of the prayers of a righteous man or woman are powerful and effective, all by the throne of grace,

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the court of grace, repenting then stepping into … What we don’t realize is when you get accused by the enemy, he’s trying to make you feel guilty. Well you need to step forward and, whether you repeat things or not, I just say this, if you’re a repeat offender, you know what? Jesus said, Peter asked him how many times do I have to forgive? Seven times seventy. In other words, I go back every day, my wife and I, in fact we’re still battling with some things in our life and our ministry. So we have a prayer we pray daily, I call, it’s just my grace prayer, I pray daily until I see some results if we’re struggling with certain things.

And if you have some things in your life that, you know, you’re struggling with,

approach the throne of … do not allow it to keep you away from the Lord. It’s the worst thing that you could ever do. And that’s why I’m known as a prophet of love and grace, because I know I got knocked away from the Lord years ago. I was supposed to be operating way longer, but the court of the accuser got ahold of me, you know, and I got under condemnation.

And the Lord is really moving right now. We’re about to do something. Katie, let’s just, you know, take this a little bit further here, and I think there’s something coming. I feel the anointing happening, the heavens are opening right now.

Katie: Right, so yeah, let me just share two scriptures that, I think this is gonna help

people a lot. I think people need to write these down because it’s really gonna help people. It’s like, okay, remember I said what it says in James, said … It says it’s impossible to keep the whole Law because if you offend in one area, you’ve broken it all.

Doug: Yeah. Katie: Okay. And so Satan is counting that. He is counting on, you know, “You can

never keep the Law. I got you.” Right? “I’m gonna go to court and accuse you because I got an endless list of stuff to accuse you of.” So I love what it says in Romans 6:14 in the Amplified Classic. It says, “For sin shall no longer exert dominion over you since now you are not under the Law as a slave, but under grace as subjects of God’s favor and mercy.” Okay, so I could go a lot of ways with that. But I just want to point that out, it says that we’re no longer under the Law as a slave, but we’re under grace instead. Because grace always superabounds over our sin, over breaking the Law.

See that’s good, because see if we were slaves to a Law that we could not keep, we would have no hope at all. That’s why the Bible says, it says, look, I know, right there Paul’s saying, “I know it’s impossible for you to keep the Law. That’s why you’re not under the Law as a slave, because you can never be a slave to something you can’t keep. That’s why you’re under grace.” So that’s such good

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news for everybody because that, that means that when we mess up, we have to say, “Look, I’m not under the Law as a slave. I don’t have to keep it perfectly, even though I’m trying to and by the Holy Spirit unction it’s my desire to always walk in holiness. But when I mess up, I am under grace instead. I’m under grace as a subject of God’s favor and mercy.”

So you always know that you have that when you mess up. It’s not an excuse to

sin! It’s never an excuse to sin. Grace is never excuse to sin. But, when we do mess up, we know that we have that grace so that when the enemy’s trying to assault us, that we have that, that covering over us of grace that will always trump the Law. And I like what it says in Romans 5:1 and verse 2, it says, and this is courtroom language. Doug, this should really resonate with you. Says this, “For we are justified, acquitted …” Acquitted. That is courtroom language ...

Doug: Yeah. Katie: … to be acquitted, right, of a charge. Doug: Right. Katie: That means you’re acquitted of the charge, absolved of the charge, cleared of

the charge. It says, “We are justified, acquitted and declared righteous and given right standing with God through faith.” And through Him, we have this access, this entrance, by our faith into grace, the state of God’s favor, in which we firmly and safely stand. Remember is by grace through faith that we are saved. And when we are saved, we become through this grace, we become justified with God. We become acquitted with God. We are declared righteous with God. And righteous people who have been acquitted and are justified win their cases in court.

Doug: That’s so powerful. Then what happens when you win your case in court, then

you have to collect. You know, you have to then … something happens in court, you know, and the judgment is ruling … some people say, “Well, how do you know?” Well, you’ll have a dream, suddenly … it’s like hearing God. Some people say, “How do I know if I won my case?” Well, you’ll know, you’ll either … like I said, you’ll have a dream. Someone will tell you. Or the song will come on the radio. In other words, God will speak to you in some way that you can hear Him. He’ll let you know that you now have authority. Now once you to win your case, you know, in a sense, you can then walk and ask the Lord for payback, for repayment of the enemy, or for … For me, I’m asking for favor, finances and souls. That’s what I want. Uh, some people want different things, you know. But

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the last thing you wanna ask for is revenge. That, and you know, it’s a verse on that, right?

Katie: Right. Yeah. Right. Doug: And let the Lord do that. I think one of the early mistakes I made in the Courts of

Heaven, when I started operating a few years ago, is I was just so angry at the enemy hitting me and other people. And I just wanted kind of revenge at the enemy, I guess. I wanted to take him to court. And you know, you don’t wanna do that. You want the Lord to do it. I learned it later, that you want the Lord to be able to do that. “Vengeance and justice is Mine,” says the Lord. You don’t wanna take that out on yourself. And once you get operating in this place of no judgment, then things turn around for you. And I feel that the heavens are open right now. And Katie, I just think that maybe we could do some words or minister, however you want to do it. I’m just really feeling the power start up.

Katie: Okay, yeah. I’ll just tell a story, and then I’ll start ministering … Doug: Sure. Katie: … I was in Minnesota, and you talked about how you know when you know your

case, you can get a dream, you can get a word from the Lord, you can get something in the Bible that’ll tell you. But I had an open, an actual manifestation of a miracle happen. I was praying for this kid that he had torn ACLs and nothing was happening. It was one of those moments when you feel so disappointed because it’s not God that’s not making it happen, it’s that you’re missing something, right?

Doug: Yeah. Katie: So I’m praying for him, and I’m not getting anything. Then I also hear,

“Numbness in the toes.” So I asked him, “Is that you? Do you have numbness in the toes?” And he said, “No.” But the lady next to him said, “Yes.” So I said, “Sorry, kid.” And then I went to her, and I said, “So you have numbness in the toes. Why?” And she said, “I had a knee surgery, and when they put in the implant, and then they sowed back up my leg, they misplaced my bone.” And she goes, “And then when I started to do the rehab, the bone, because it was in the wrong place, as I walk my tendons stretch and the bone slipped forward. And now it’s protruding out of my arch.”

Doug: Wow.

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Katie: And it was, Doug. You could actually see the bones sticking out of her arch. And the lady next to her even testified that she saw it, like, protruding from the arch. And I was like, oh my God, how do I pray for this? So I’m sitting there, like listening to the Lord, and I hear Him say, “She has a tree growing up in the middle of her leg.” Now, to me, that means idolatry’s in the bloodline. Because the Bible talks in Isaiah 44 about how you will cut down trees, and they would fashion idols out of them, and you will worship those idols. So I knew that she has broken the Law, or her family-, someone in her family line, had broken the Law by worshiping an idol. And that Satan was accusing her in the court, and I needed to take it to the Grace Court.

So I didn’t have time to explain the whole teaching to her, so I just said simply, I

said, “Just simply pray after me. You have the right to go boldly into this Grace Court because that’s what the Bible said.” So I had her decree, “Okay, Lord, I come boldly before the throne of grace to receive grace and mercy in my time of need.” And I had her repent for her idolatry, and then I had her decree she was under grace, and not under the Law. I had her say the scriptures that I had just brought into this teaching today. She said them, and then I commanded her soul to be healed of anything she had in common with that idolatry. And then I commanded the bone to move, and it did. Yeah. So I have this on video ...

Doug: Wow! Katie: … I don’t know if we can put it up ... Yeah, we’ll put it up there. And we’ll have it

so you can put it up there. Doug: Yeah, we will. Katie: So I have the testimony. She stood up, she had now, because she had

numbness in her feet, because of the bone protruding, was pushing on an artery and a nerve which caused her pain and numbness. She could only hobble along. She stood up, she could totally walk on the foot, no pain, no numbness. She came up on stage, testified, she sat down, put her leg up, and now the protrusion in her arch was no longer there. The lady sitting next to her that saw the protrusion testified, “Yeah, I saw it before, and it certainly looks different now. I don’t see it anymore.” And I actually called her about three weeks after that and said, “How are you doing?” She said, “I totally have no pain, no numbness, the bone is moved, the protrusion is gone. I canceled the surgery …”

Doug: Come on …

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Katie: “… that I was gonna be doing to move the bone back in its right place.” And then, since then, I’ve gone to other meetings. Like I just went to Kansas, and I walked everybody through that same thing. But what I first did, is I said, “Anybody that has curvature of the spine, spinal stenosis, any bone issues in your spine or your body, come up now.” They came up, I had two chiropractors there and two nurses. They checked every single person’s back. There was like thirty people. And I said, “I want you to remember what that person’s back feels like.” So they checked for dips and twists and S-curves, and everything else. They went back to their seat.

I walked them through going up into the Grace Court, repented for idolatry and

receiving grace for every time they broke the Law. And then people started getting healed right in their seats. I didn’t lay hands on ‘em, nothing. An angel came and moved their spines into place. They came up and were testifying. I got all kinds of crazy video of it. One thing was this lady named Leslie Tracy, she had and S in the top and a dip going in with and S in the bottom in her spine her whole life. Was proven by doctors and X-rays. She’s in the process of getting an X-ray now. Every time she’s at the meeting, her best friend is a nurse and she would, like the power would hit and she’s says, “Check my spine.” And she’d say, “No, it’s crooked. It’s still crooked.” And had checked it live 5, 6, 7 times. After the prayer, her friend checks it, her spine is completely straight, totally healed. Her bones moved into place without anybody touching her, we took her to the Grace Court.

So let’s work on this, any bone issues that anybody has. Anybody has any, you

know, bones out of place, twisted spine, scoliosis, spinal stenosis, any type of issues. Even the knees, hips, anything like that, you may have a demon spirit on you from an idol. Now remember, in the Bible in Psalms 135 and in Revelations 9 it says idols cannot see, they cannot hear, they cannot walk, and they cannot talk. So idols cause deafness, dumbness, blindness and crippling diseases of the body that prevent you from walking fully and having health in your physical spine.

So if you have any idolatry in your bloodline, or even any idolatry in your life right now, because you know we can make idols out of anything. Like, we can make idols out of, you know, our kids, possessions, our home, our ministry, our business. Anything. So if you have any idolatry in your bloodline right now, or any idols that you’ve made in your life currently, we’re gonna repent, and then we’re go up into the Grace Court and face the accusations that Satan has put against us. Because he’s accusing you of breaking the Law through your idolatry, and then he’s putting this spirit on your body that is an idolatrous spirit that prevents you from walking right, from having a straight spine, healthy knees, healthy joints, healthy back and everything else.

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Okay, so let’s first start by asking the Holy Spirit to just remind us if there’s

anything in your life right now that you’ve turned into an idol, just so you can bring that up before the Lord. Amen? So just right now, we release to you Holy Spirit right now, just remind anybody if they’ve turned anything like their business, their ministry, anything that’s an idol. And you’ll know you have if you spend excessive time thinking about it, you spend too much money on that thing, if you spend too much energy and time towards that thing, then you’ll know. So just let Holy Spirit tell you right now.

Doug: Yeah. Katie: Okay? Alright, now grab hold of that thing in your mind. And we’re gonna go

boldly into the throne room of grace right now to receive grace and mercy in our time of need. So Father, we do that right now, as we here on Earth, we’re operating in Heaven because we’re seated in heavenly realms with Christ. And so now we boldly, all of us can go, everybody who has the right, right now before the Judge of all the Earth as He sits on His throne of grace to receive grace and mercy in time of need.

As we step into that court, I just want you to just, just start repenting for whatever

that idolatry is. Go ahead and do it right now. We repent right now for making idols of our business, our ministry, our children, our husbands, our wives, ourselves, making possessions into idols and anything else, and idolatry in our bloodline going all the way back to Adam. Just say that repentance prayer right now. Then I want you start saying, decreeing, these grace scriptures over yourself right now, as the power of grace is gonna come against the Law, all right?

So just repeat after me, just say, “But then the Law came in to expand and

increase the trespass, making it more apparent and assigning opposition, fault where my sin of Law breaking increased and abounded, the power of grace, God’s unmerited favor, has surpassed my Law-breaking and even superabounded over it.” Okay? So say that, just continue praying with me. Say, “I may have broken the Law through idolatry, but grace is superabounding right now over my sin and destroying every accusation of Law-breaking that Satan is bringing against me in court.” Say, “I’m not under the Law as a slave, but I’m under grace as God’s unmerited favor and mercy.” Say this now with me: “Grace is not earned. It’s freely given. It’s something I didn’t deserve. Even when I sin and blow it, I have access to grace.” Say, “It doesn’t mean I have the right to sin, but it means that when I sin, I am covered by grace because of Jesus’ death on the Cross.”

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Okay, now do one more scripture with me. Ready? This is Romans 5. Now I want

you to just decree this after me. Ready, just say, “I now, because of Jesus’ death on the Cross, am justified, acquitted. Which means I am cleared and absolved of all charges because I’ve been declared righteous and given right standing with God because of grace through faith.” Say, “Grace has declared me acquitted of all charges in this Grace Court.” Say, “Because of grace, I have mercy. And mercy triumphs over all judgment.” Okay, so now just stay right there, and I’m gonna make some decrees over you while you stay right in that place

. Father, I thank You that we have the right to come to the Grace Court and

receive grace every time we’ve broken the Law. And everybody that’s watching right now has broken the Law through some sort of idolatry, either in their life or in their bloodline, but they are under grace. Grace has superabounded and superseded every time they’ve broken the Law by committing idolatry. And they’re not under the Law as a slave because they could never keep the whole Law. But rather they’re under grace as God’s subject of His favor and His mercy. It’s unmerited, and it’s undeserved. And it’s unearned. And they have it right now, because they’re standing in the Grace Court receiving it. And it’s coming against those Law-breaking times of idolatry in their lives. And so right now, as that grace is being poured out on them in the court right now, I speak to that demon spirit that was assigned to them through their Law-breaking. It’s affecting their bones in their body and causing crippling diseases in their legs, in their spine, in their shoulders, in their knees, in their neck right now.

And I suspend time right now, and I speak to that spirit, and I command it to

come out! Come out of the back! Come out of the neck! Come out of the knees! Come out of the elbows! Come out, you spirit! Come out! You have to come out because the Law-breaking is under grace. You have no more legal rights. You have to come out! In the name of Jesus, I break the assignment. I break it in the name! I break it in the name! I break it in the name of Jesus!

I decree right now that all your pain is leaving now. All pain and source of the

pain right now is leaving. All trauma, all things in the soul realm is leaving. Heal by dunamis power right now. Right now. Right now. Right now, pain is going right now, and movement is coming, returning to the body right now. Movement returning to the body. I want you to start testing yourself. The pain is receding now. Right now. Right now. In Jesus’ name. Movement returning to the body right now. Right now. Right now. In Jesus’ name. Pain going right now. As you test yourself. Right now. Right now. Right now. Cartilage growing back. I

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command creative miracles to come into the spine. Discs being replaced. Cartilage coming back. Right now in Jesus’ name. Right now. Right now.

Now, as you test yourself, let me just tell you about some more miracles. There was a woman in that Kansas meeting. She had been having a S-curve and a twist in her spine for 20 years from a car accident. She was in that meeting. She had a wheelchair in the back of her car just in case she could no longer walk. Because that’s how much pain she was in. She was on 3 oxycodones a day …

Doug: Wow! Katie: … and other pain meds. And she still had pain. Her pain had been so bad that

her mother had to come over to her house every day for 20 years to get her daughter up, to get her showered and dressed, and to make food for the kids and to send then off to school. Her mother came up and testified. But that woman, after we took her up to the Grace Court, and took that idol to court, got up, stood up in front of everybody, was touching her toes, reaching her arms, crying, saying she was completely out of pain, totally healed. The chiropractor that checked her before we went to the Grace Court testified that yes, she had an S and a twist in her spine. Same … it wasn’t a chiropractor, it was a nurse. Same nurse named Pam came up, checked her back afterwards. I have this on video. We’ll post it so you can watch the miracle. Checked her back afterwards and said, “Oh yeah, her spine is completely different. She’s totally had a healing.” She was completely healed, totally free.

Then another guy came up. He had been in Taiwan, and had a staph infection hit him underneath his glute muscle, ate his glute muscle. He had to spend 21 days in the hospital, 5 bags of saline, they had to insert, go do surgery and insert the side of his glute muscle, scrape out the infection and wash it out with saline. It ate some of his glute muscle and his wife, who was one of the chiropractors there, testified that one side of his rear end went like this, and the other side went down like this, because the infection ate the glute muscle. But when we took him up to the court, his glute muscle grew back. He grew back his butt muscle.

Doug: Wow … Katie: He came up, demonstrated how, because he’s a truck driver, that for years he

had to sit crooked, like this, because of the uneven glute muscle. And he even had to sit on his fist to even himself out. Sat down on a chair and demonstrated how he was perfectly straight. His wife said, “I’ll be able to tell when I get him on the bed in the hotel room”. I looked down and saw a rug on the floor. I lifted up the rug, he got behind the rug and laid there. And his wife checked and came up and said, “Yes. His butt muscle has grown back.”

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Doug: Wow. Katie: We have that video, and we’ll post it. Doug: Wow. This is what … I just got a healing. Katie: Thank you, Jesus! Doug: I didn’t even know I had anything, but before we were on, I said … You know, the

Lord did tell me in prayer this morning, there’s a hidden generational curse I hadn’t gotten to, that I couldn’t find. And I knew that the enemy was attacking me different ways, I don’t know. But then I got this stabbing pain in my shoulder when you started to pray. So I repented. Now you don’t have to always know. I said now I’m just gonna take this because it must be the generational curse of idolatry ... Someone, knowingly or unknowingly in all four lines of my family, all the way back to Adam. Whatever it might have been, idolatry to ministry, idolatry to anything. So I repented. Then suddenly, when you started doing that, it’s like a spear got pulled right out of my back, and …

Katie: Thank you, God. Doug: … I feel, you know, I definitely feel way better. I wasn’t even aware of … I knew it

was an area of weakness in me. Where every time I was, you know, I wasn’t walking with pain all the time, but it was like I would get a spear in my back feeling. But now it’s totally gone. So I just wanna encourage people that, you know, this stuff is for real. The Lord … I tell you, the demonic realm can attack believers. I found out because, even as a prophet, I was being attacked. And that it was legal right, it got in there because of different things, you know, generational things, or things maybe that I’d done in the past. You’re gonna need to watch this again. We’re gonna post the videos and watch this. And write down those grace scriptures, walk through this because we’re gonna see, we’re gonna get testimonies back. We always do. And especially around Katie’s ministry. We’re gonna get testimonies back of what’s gonna happen. I know I got a healing, and something’s about to happen. I can hear in the Courts of Heaven now, because of … you know, I can hear these things. And all of a sudden, my ears started to ring, and I know that the enemy is like, wait a minute, you know. He’s trying to accuse back. And I feel this warmth of the glory of the Lord here. So …

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Katie: Yeah, I think it’s, if I can say, the final thing is, when people feel like they’re being attacked, or they don’t know what’s going on. You know, after repentance, we all do repenting. But now we repent and move right into grace.

Doug: Yeah. Katie: Go look up every grace scripture you have. And just stand there, and just start

decreeing the grace scriptures. Because the enemy cannot fight grace. Because it says that we’re no longer under the Law, but under grace. So when he accuses us of breaking the Law, we gotta come back with him with, “Yeah, of course. It’s impossible for me to keep the Law. That’s why Jesus put me under grace.”

Doug: Right. Katie: So just make sure that, you know, everybody like, as you’re repenting, Grace!

Grace! Grace! And then the enemy cannot fight that because if you didn’t have grace, if you don’t use grace, then you’re basically saying, “I don’t need what Jesus won for me.” Because it’s grace that imparts that victory to us.

Doug: Yep. It’s still very similar, like the parable Jesus told. He said, you know, this man

cleaned up the house, drove out the demon, went and got seven more and came back and overtook him because he didn’t fill it with grace or light, you know, light of the Lord. And you can be filled. He must become greater, I must become less. You are just filling him right now, just fill your body, fill your spirit, fill everything, your soul, fill it all with the power, with the grace of the Lord. Walk in His light. It’s gonna be so good. Wow this is so powerful, Katie. Well why don’t you just tell us a little bit more of how we can follow you, and anything that you have to offer and books. Whatever’s going on right now.

Katie: Well I do touch on the Assyrian king and the courts, and touch on, it’s actually in

the teachings about it. It’s called, Victory in Trials. So we might want, I don’t know if I still have any here, I think Daniel did bring it. But you can go on to my web site. It’s a brand-new product, and it has two disks of soaking, of taking people into the courts.

And I’m also doing a workshop, a live workshop on it, a live workshop where I

walk people in-depth through the Grace Court and through the Ancient of Days Court to take care of the strongman. So that’s a live workshop coming up. So I would say that we’ll put up a link for them. But that would be something that people would probably really benefit from.

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Doug: Yeah. You know, she has soaking CDs. And when I was going through my healing, you play ‘em all night, or you know, whatever you … all day in the background. You don’t have to hear it your ears to … it gets in your spirit. And I just love … oh my goodness, during my times of getting healed and … couple of things, chemical sensitivity was so bad I couldn’t even wear my own clothes. And I would just soak and soak and soak and take communion, and soak in those CDs and the worship and things like that. So there’s a powerful anointing. Now what’s your web site?

Katie: Just go to KatieSouza.com. Doug: All right. And you have a TV show? Katie: Yeah. It’s called Healing the Soul: Keys to the Miraculous. And they can see the

episodes either by going on our website, or they can go on YouTube, and also Facebook has a lot of the broadcasts there. And in almost every show, I always have an activation prayer at the end, so it’s not just like, you know, information. It’s also … we move into healing.

Doug: Yeah, you know, just go out and google … I always tell people because I’ve

been, I’ve been doing live broadcasts since 2009. I’ve been blogging since 2006. And Katie’s been doing this a long time with her TV show, so I always say if you have questions, you know, just, you can either google “Katie Souza” and the issue, or “Doug Addison” and the issue. Probably you’re gonna find something.

For the longest time, I would go like, wow, I’m really having an issue with this thing. And I just google “Katie Souza” and whatever that was, and there was a teaching that would walk you through. And so Katie gives so much so freely online. She gives her stuff away. And I just wanna encourage you to check out, follow her on social media, just go to her website. There’s always some good stuff. In fact, it’s so rich and packed … some people contact me and say, where do I start when I go to Katie? So where do they start, Katie? What do you recommend?

Katie: Well you know, if they’re just brand-new to the Lord or to soul healing, start at Episode 1 of the TV broadcast and just work your way up because it takes you step by step. I would say that. If you’re more advanced, you know, just like you said, put in my name and the subject, and then see what YouTube comes up with, Google comes up with. And, you know, you can even just go watch miracles on YouTube. I’ve got thousands of miracles posted on YouTube.

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And so if you wanna get your faith up for your miracle, like, put in your disorder and my name, and then see if a miracle footage comes up. You can watch that. So, there’s a lot of ways to just google stuff and look at it. And I also, go on my Facebook page and just look for any of the, you know, where I’m on the phone like this, doing a live broadcast, because I cover a lot of material in those, too.

Doug: Okay. Well great. Katie, thank you so much! We’re so excited, and excited for

what’s coming, and a book coming out I assume. Katie: Yeah. Doug: And we’ll be watching for that as well. All right everybody! See you soon.

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