ENGINEERING

Academic Advising

Fall 2013

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AGENDA

Associate Degree in Engineering Overview of Basic Requirements for Transfer

for NON-ENGR majors: Admission to CSU Admission to UC Transfer Requirements specific to ENGR ASSIST.ORG for choosing courses Applications Employment information 2013

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Disclaimer

All advice given in these slides should be confirmed with a visit to your counselor

Some students have to stay an extra year at MPC if they neglect a key transfer requirement such as English!!

MPC Counselors are here to help! Use them!

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Glossary

Transfer – moving from MPC to University Hopefully with minimum course redundancy Hopefully with junior level status

Admissions Requirements – classes you need to complete in order to be accepted for transfer

Transfer Selection Criteria – classes (and other things) you need to be competitive, to be selected

Major Requirements – need to be completed either at MPC or University to get BS degree

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Glossary

IGETC – General Ed Major Requirements for UC also accepted for CSU and MPC degrees lets you take all lower division Gen Ed at MPC

Lower Division – Classes that are taken in Freshman/Sophomore year (MPC or University)

Upper Division – Classes that are available only for Junior/Senior year (University only)

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Still not sure ENGR is for you?

Spring PERS 71 “Career Assessment” class 1 unit Myers-Brigg Personality Inventory Strong Interest Survey Help identify Career Paths that will work for

you

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MPC Associates Degree in ENGR:"Transfer Prep"

Associate Degree in Engineering Requirements: 18 units from the core course list

“C” grade or better in each course 7 units from the Engineering Department Reading/Writing Proficiencies (ENGL 1A) Math Proficiency (MATH 20A) Information Competency (LIBR 50 or test out) 12 units at MPC – (if you come in with credit) 60 transferable units

including CSU or UC (IGETC) Gen Ed Pattern

2.0 GPA7

AA in ENGRUseful if you: a) don't want a BS b) are going to take a long time to get it

c) are not entirely sure you will be able to complete the BS

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New MPC Associate Program for Transfer—ENGR AS-T Result of SB1440 legislation

"Degree with a Guarantee" Streamlined Associates degree for those

wanting to transfer to CSU All CSUs will accept Some variations for EE vs CE vs ME etc Still being developed Probably available in 1 year

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OK you want a BS in ENGRBUT: Are you Calculus Ready?

NO: Engineering majors needing Basic Math Start on the Math sequence Take Gen-Ed classes to fill your schedule After Math sequence, if you are still on track

Target major prep classes and institution (CS/UC)

YES: Engineering majors and Calculus Ready Focus on major prep classes

MATH, PHYS, CHEM, ENGR Don’t worry about Gen-Ed

EXCEPT the core classes required for transfer These requirements are very important, see counselor 10

OVERVIEW for NON-ENGR Transfer to CSU

You know you want to go to CSU:Admissions Requirement:

Area A/Area B4 aka “The Golden Four” Major Requirement:

30 units of General Education SEE HANDOUT

60 transferable units (GPA: 2.0)

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The “Golden Four” for CSU

Core Gen-Ed classes for CSU Schools A1: SPEECH A2: ENGL1A Composition A3: Critical Thinking

ENGL2 or PHIL6 or PHIL10 9 CSU campuses waive Area A3 for admission

Including SJSU, Cal Poly, Chico, Sac State, Fresno, SF See page 16 of

http://www.calstate.edu/sas/publications/documents/casper.pdf

B4: MATH (any transferable MATH, 13 or higher)

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Overview for NON-ENGR Transfer to UC

You know you want to go to UC2 transferable English coursesTransferable Math course4 courses from:

Humanities Social Sciences Science (at least two areas)

60 "UC transferable" units (GPA 2.4) IGETC for UC General Ed

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Overview for NON-ENGR UC/CSU Not Sure

Applying to both CSU and UC?Take ENGL1A and ENGL 2

SPEECH required for CSU Some UCs require SPEECH For major not admissions Check on assist.org Follow IGETC for Gen Ed

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Different Rules regarding Transfer for Engineering Students

Since Engineering is High Unit Major, Focus shifts from Gen-Ed to Major preparation!!! (See www.assist.org)

CSU A3 exceptions for admission critical thinking already embedded in courses SJSU Not Requesting “Golden Four” for ENGR

IGETC generally not recommended for UC Want you to get thru MATH/PHYS/ENGR etc

Follow Admissions Criteria for CSU and/or UC Transferable units (60) 15

Also Be Aware

Transfer Selection Criteria Many Engineering programs are impacted and

also base admissions on GPA Major preparation grades

MATH, PHYS, ENGR, CHEM

Many students hurt their prospects by focusing on Gen Ed over Major Prep!!

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ASSIST (www.assist.org)

Identify articulated major courses at specific California universities

Identify UC transferable courses at all California community colleges

Identify placement of courses on CSU GE and IGETC for all California community colleges

Identify CSUs and UCs that offer specific majors

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APPLICATIONS

CSU (www.csumentor.edu) UC (www.universityofcalifornia.edu/apply Private (www.commonapp.org)

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Employment Information 2012

Skills Employers Want Starting Salaries for Selected Majors Employer Preferences Best Undergraduate Engineering Programs

http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/rankings/engineering#

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http://www.naceweb.org/uploadedFiles/Content/static-assets/downloads/executive-summary/2013-september-salary-survey-executive-summary.pdf

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Source: September 2013 Salary SurveyNational Association of Colleges & Employers

Major Average Starting SalaryPetroleum Engineering $96,200Computer Engineering $70,300Chemical Engineering $66,900Computer Science $64,100Aerospace/Aeronautical/Astronautical

Engineering

$63,900

Mechanical Engineering $63,900Electrical/Electronics and Communications Engineering

$62,500

Engineering Technology $60,900Management Information Systems/Business

$60,300

Logistics/Materials Management $59,500

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For Further Career Exploration

Spring PERS 71 “Career Assessment” class 1 unit Myers-Brigg Personality Inventory Strong Interest Survey Help identify Career Paths that will work for

you

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