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August 9 2014
2:19 p.m.
Detective
St Louis County Police
Department
Bureau of Crimes Against Persons
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Today is Saturday, August 9, 2014, and the t ime is 2:19 p .m . This is
Detective w it h t he St Louis County Police
Department s Bureau
of
Crimes Against Persons, DSN I m h er e
at
a in an u nm ar ke d p ol ic e v eh ic le and t hi s is in reference
to St Louis County Complaint
Number
14-43984. In th e vehicle with me
is
would
you say
your
name fo r th e recorder please?
Okay, and, spell
your
first name fo r
me
please.
. yes. Last name
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And,
what s your
date
of
birth
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And
your
Social Security Number?
And,
where
do y ou l iv e r ight now
Canfield Drive,
Apartment
And
that s
in Ferguson, right?
Yes
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Wh o d o you li ve there with?
My
girlfriend.
What s her
name?
And I was th e
only
one h om e a t t he t im e
Okay. What s your cell phone?
Uh
huh.
oyou have any other phones?
. oh no.
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Yeah
Okay.
Yes
I right?
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And
what
kind
of
phone
is
that?
Um
LG
Optimist.
Who s your carrier?
Sprint or Expo Mobile but i t s through Sprint.
Expo?
Yes
E-x-p-o?
Yes
But i t s a p ar t of Sprint right?
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Yes
Are you workin ?
Yes
Where d o yo u wor k?
Where s
that?
Um Sou I m sorry
What d o you d o t her e?
I m a sales rep.
For who?
Um
fo r
Okay. Alright and um
so
you obviously you know a there s a scene
right in
front of
us right now right?
Exactly.
And you obviously know what this
interview s
about and what we d like
to talk to
you about.
Can
yo u tel l me
a
what
you saw today?
Starting f rom the beginning?
Sure.
Okay my um boss was ight there.
She
was finna pick
me up. When she was headed towards me
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And
Uh huh.
Yes
Okay.
is the young lady in the green shirt r ight there?
She was picking me up so we could head
off to
work. We work in
Illinois. Um
at
the moment that I h ea rd a car tire
skir
like skirrrr like
it h ur ried up and p ul le d o ve r at the same time she called
me
to come
outside cause I was waitin on h er so I saw it was her so I looked out
the window and I saw a police and the f irst thing I saw was
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I m g onn a s to p you there
fo r
a second okay? Where was
was in th e van.
Where s
her
van at?
Over there in
that
parking lot.
Um do you see th e van right now?
Yes
Where
is it?
Right there behind those officers.
Okay.
So
she s right there?
Yes
Okay and she s in her van?
Yes
Okay. What kind of van? Is that a-a Ford
at?
Ford yeah . Yeah.
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Okay so she s sitting in
her
van?
Yes
Okay and what happens then?
Okay
so
she witnesses everything
f ro m t he
behind
but
I witnessed it
f ro m t he to p.
She
um I looked outside I saw a police the f irst thing.
The only thing
that
I saw at
t he mo me nt
was
I m gonna stop you again. Where were you looking outside from?
The side window so
no t
this
w in do w b ut t he
one
to that
side.
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Okay so we re looking at
Yes
And you live on th e
right now.
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Top floor second
I m s or ry u m
third f loor
So
the
very far top left-hand corner
window
was
Yes
and
the
one right around
that
corner too.
Okay so you re lookin
out that window
right there?
Not this one
the
one right around the corner.
Apartment
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Exactly. It s facin right
there towards that
police car.
Okay.
So
that s what
I saw.
Okay. And
so
um you looked
ou t that window
Uh
huh.
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and at the same
time
Yes
Okay.
was calling you right?
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cause I heard
the skirrr
and I
just
assumed
it
was
her
and she was
calling me
so
I was-I was gonna grab
my
things
to
come outside
to
go
to
work.
Okay.
So at the moment,
w her e-I mean b ef or e I di d I
just
looked outside
to
make sure she was
it was her
waitin
fo r me and I saw a p ol ic e o ff ic er .
I
don t
know name running towards this guy. I didn t see
the-the
hassle
at
first
but
I di d see hi m g et
out the
car and run in a hu rr y. The guy was
oh I m sorry I can t remember his name
but
it was a friend
o fo f
a friend
of mine and . He ran and so by
that time
I came
f rom that
window
and I ran to
the
patio right there I opened
the
bl inds and I
could see past this corner so I could see directly there from the blinds.
So there I saw
the
man running 1keep hearing some gunshots. Um
the lady s
window
across
the apartment
complex from mine her
window got shot causes steady gunshots flyin everywhere and I
loo ke d o utside. I saw him
turn
around and
put
his hands into the air
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and ge t shot. After resisting
1mean non-resistance after being
compliant
to
the law.
Okay. And yo u were all o n the third floor balcony when you saw this?
Yes sir. And I stepp ed o utside d ur in g this p oint. ssoon as he got shot
I hurried up go t m y phone and started recording it everything
everything thereafter
Okay. And where
were
you standing when this was recording?
On the top floor on th e right side of th e balcony right there.
Okay so you can walk
between
th e tw o apartments there is
that
right ?
Yes .
and you were standing on
that
balcony?
Yes
Okay. And so you recorded
t ha t w it h
your phone?
Yes
And that s t his a
Yes
.
this LG Optimist that you have right here?
And no w it
is
cracked
bu t
I can send the se videos. I
pu t
em on
my
Facebook and I ll send
it to
thi s email r ig ht here. I sent one
to
this
email. So l have a couple
of
em .
What s your Facebook?
...uh huh.
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Phone ringing)
Phone ringing - video playing)
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UF recorded phone call)
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...oh I m sorry. Just put p. Yeah.
Does that look right?
Yes.
Yes
Is there anything else on there that I /we need
to
know about your. ..how
to get to like look at your Facebook stuff?
Oh
no. Everything s, everything s
pretty
open
so
you can see
the
v id eo I
last posted.
Hold on.
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Are you playing it right now? Okay, le t ... I m gonna ask you
to just
stop it
for
a second okay.
Sure thing.
I m just gonna ask you a couple more questions okay? Um,
how
many
officers did you see?
I saw one init ially
then after that two
One
more
walked up and
they
said stood over
the
body.
Okay,
so when the
incident
took
place, um
how many
officers
were
here?
Um, I just saw one
...
Okay.
...that I could see.
How many,
a
gunshots do you
think
you heard?
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Well I ve heard
three
at first like
as
soon
as
I-as soon
as
I heard
the
skirrrr
I heard
three
gunshots
boom-boom-boom
and then I um
came to
the
window and I ke pt b e fo re I c ould e xit my house
f rom the
balcony
to the
actual
door is
whe n I k ep t he ar ing more and more shots
so I was technically
tryin
to stay behind the-stay behind
the
door which
is why
I could see
the
um him getting shot but I wasn t present for
the
video
to
be s ho w cause I was all 1was inside.
Say
that
one more time.
Okay I did kinda just confuse you. Okay so
what
I initially heard
gunshots and after I heard
the
skirring of the car wheels
I-I m gonna
just-just so
I understand
what-what you re
sayin .
So
you
hear the-the car tires right?
Yes
And
A sharp turn.
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Okay. And you look
ou t that far window that
faces
a
right?
Yes
And
what
did you see at
that
point?
car
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I saw
the
man I m sorry by the man I mean
the
police officer getting
ou t
of
his car and r un ning ful l speed. T hat s
when
I
went to the
next
window.
Okay and he was running
This
way
.
where-where s his vehicle at?
Right there.
Okay. So
the
vehicle
with the-the
By the orange cones.
With
the crime scene tape on
the
back of it is that right?
Yes yes.
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Okay. So
that s the
officer s vehicle
that
you saw, right?
Yes
Okay. And, so which direction was he running?
He got
ou t
of the car and ran
to my
right.
Okay,
so
he s running
from that
vehicle?
Yes
To, dow n t he street closer to 29 then closer to 29
And also, while I was l oo ki n , I saw a all black
Monte
Carlo sitting right
directly in front of it and the guy
that
um, I guess he was walking with I
guess his name,
bu t
I
only know
him by a nickname. His name
DJ
He
was
tryin
hide because he was scared
fo r
his life as well cause
th e
police was already shooting, so he was tryin to duck of f behind th e car.
Okay. Um
Yes
bu t
this, um , I was
so
and about
th e
gunshots, then I heard several
mor e. I can t-I can t
pu t
a number on, it was several of e m and
they
were I guess aimed at every direction cause it just sounded like chaos
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Can
you give
me
an estimate?
No-no less than f our aft er t he original ones. No less than four more.
So you heard an original ho w many?
Three.
You
heard
an
original three. And, then roughly ho w long after you
heard those original three?
30 seconds.
30 seconds
f that .
Iater.
Yes
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After
that
you heard
four
more right?
At lease.
And you just made mention that someone s um
window
go t shot
or
something.
Yes I just um I
didn t
see
that
personally b ut t he people who were all
standing right t he re t he y j us t t ol d
me
that
her
window has a bul let mark
through
i t f ro m t he police shootin .
And which apartment is
that?
Well I-they were standing right there
so
I don t know which window. I
just heard
th e
people talkin about
it
and
they
w ere j us t t el li ng me w hi le
I was standing here waitin
fo r
you guys
to
come.
In this building right here?
Yes She
said they they shot through
the window
and um
the other
guy
was unarmed because he
pu t
his hands up so
to
be compliant
so
this
is
a okay so I saw the officer running and by th e
time
I
go t t o t he
next
window I saw h im g et d own l ike a rm s up and then get shot afterwards.
So a t t he p oi nt
that
you first saw the the deceased individual..
Uh huh.
where where were you at? Where where were you a t w he n you first
saw him?
I was looking ou t
my
door.
Okay
so
were you inside your apartment
or
outside
your
apartment?
I was in
i t b ut
the
door
was open
so
I was exiting
ou t
as I was looking at
him.
Okay.
So I m on m y w ay outside
th e
apartment from
th e
balcony.
So you walked
ou t
of the apartment onto your balcony?
Yes
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Alright. Okay. So then
at that
point
where
was
a where
was
the
individual at?
He
was on
the
ground.
He
was already on the ground?
And that s when yep that s when I picked
my
p ho ne u p and just
recording right then and there.
Okay so
what-how
was he on
the
ground?
His head um what s
the
p os it io n? I can t remember analogy his lateral
he was facing downwards arms straight
Was he on his stom ac h or his back?
.
90°
Yes
on his stomach
frontal,
arms 90° angles at
either
side
of
his
head parallel on
the
ground.
Okay which way was his head facing?
Towards
the
police officer. So
that s how
you know
who turned
around
and tried
to ya
know make it understood that he didn t have anything
on hi m because he has a shoe and a hat missing
there
cause he ran this
way
but
turned around this way to where his body
is
facing
that
way
now.
Okay alright. Did you hear
a
anyone saying anything?
I was
too
in shock. I-I all I could hear was
just
gasps and
Did you hear the police officer say anything?
No.
Did you
I hear d h im say g et back
or
somethin like
that,
somethin like
that.
Like
get back
ya know the
crime scene get back. Things
of that
nature
but
Okay when
the
incident s actually taking place did you hear
the
officer
say anything?
I don t-I don t remember him I don t remember hearing him say stop.
I don t remember hearing his voice.
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Okay. Did yo u hea r the a
th e
individual that s deceased did you hear
him saying anything?
I
didn t
hear him eit her. I
didn t
hear him scream or anything. All I
heard was gunshots and death.
And so the f irst time you saw th e officer right what would you
would ve been looking o ut t ha t window?
Uh huh.
Um that looks onto um
The parking lot.
Your friend s car right?
Yes
But then
the first time
you saw
th e
deceased individual.
I have yes.
you were outside th e
front
door of your apartment and you were on
your neighbor s balcony?
Yes
Is
that
right?
Well yes.
I-I don t wanna
put
words in your mouth I just wan na ma ke sure I
understand right is that right?
Yes I looked
o ut t he
bal. looked
o ut t he
blinds first saw
it
happenin
and walked
ou t
the door.
Okay
so
you looked
o ut t he
blinds
Of
th e
balcony
and what did you see?
.
that s where I seen it all.
Right. When you re lookin o ut t he blinds what did you see happening?
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When I looked
o ut t he
blinds I saw
the
man
ge t
clo-Iike okay so he s
r unn in g. I had to
hurry
u p and s witc h w in do ws . I m look ing he s
running still and t he n m y
attention
turned to
the
guy to the in
the
Monte
Carlo cause he was like this ducked of f cause all you hear
is
gunshots so I m assuming he s
tryin to
hide
from
gunshots cause I
honestly didn t know what was going on at the time. I thought maybe
they were
tryin to
shoot th e police
bu t
it turns o ut i t was the
other
wa y
around. So he was hiding from
the
gunshots and the
Monte
Carlo
there was safe.
What
is this northbound and
so
that s when
my
attention while I was lookin through the blinds and after I d id that is
when I came outside and saw the man get shot.
Okay um we-we
went
through kinda a lo t of things there alr ight. I just
w an na mak e sure again. I w an na mak e sure I u nd er stan d and I w an na
make sure I m clear in-on what you re
sayin . Okay?
Sure thing.
But let- let me clarify somethin first okay? We re facing roughly north
northeast right now okay? A
and we re lookin at your
apartment
right?
Okay.
Northeast.
We re
facin so you said that
there
was a and
just
fo r
argument sake let s just say
we re
facin north and let s say that that
is
w es t and let s say that
that
is east.
Okay sure.
Okay. So the
Monte
Carlo was where?
If
this-this
is
north I was lookin south
Right.
So I m lookin this way and t he M ont e Carlo was parked right there.
Okay
so t he M ont e
Carlo
is
parked facing west?
Yes
Okay and where
is th e
male in that car? W he re s he at?
Well he wasn t in th e car. There was
other
people in
th e
car. They
were just stopped behind this police officer. He was just hiding behind
their
car once
th e
police officer fired his shots.
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Okay where was he h id in g in
the
car?
He wasn t he
didn t
he never
go t
in
th e
car. He was
just
should say around the car where was he hiding?
Yeah okay so um back right side.
So on
th e
passenger s side of
th e
vehicle?
Yes
In the back?
Yes
Right back there?
Yes
a
two-door
car
so
yeah.
To
the
rear passenger side of
the
vehicle. Okay.
So
he was on
th e
grass
or
he was in
th e
street
or
what?
He was on
th e
concrete kneeling down.
Okay. And that car
point
to roughly where
that
car was parked.
Um right here facing west directly in front of
th e
sign I guess I wanna
say
What sign?
.
directly in f ro nt o f t h e
29
address.
So
he s parked in
front of the
29 address?
Yes so
he s right here.
Okay.
Do
you
know w ho that
person is?
No.
Have you ever seen him before?
A well I know
w ho t he
person wh o was running it was my f ri en d. I o nl y
know him by nickname DJ
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Okay. Bu t
the- the
person in
t he M ont e
Carlo
do
you
k no w w ho t ha t
was?
Don t know who those people are.
Alright.
I assumed it just to be people riding dow n t he street trying to get by.
They just saw action.
Alright.
anyou t ur n t he air down a little bit?
Sure. It s alright. Sorry I go t this vest on.
Oh yeah.
Alright. You look out your west facing window right?
Yes
Correct me
if
I say something wrong.
You
look
out your
west facing
window
and you see prior to looking
ou t
your window your friend calls
you right?
Uh
huh.
And
about
that
same
time
you hear tires squealing?
Yeah. I heard the tires first. She called like simultaneously.
Almost at th e same time.
Tire call.
Okay. Tires call you look out your west facing window and you see
your I m sorry you
see your friend s car.
Yes
Okay.
Is
she in
the
car?
Yes
Okay she s physically in th e car in
th e
driver s seat
or
passenger seat?
Yeah she was just in the car.
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Okay. And then y ou loo k o ve r to
the
roadway over here on Canfield
right?
Uh
huh. She was behind
the
police so she saw things
from
the back
end.
And you see
the
police car parked where it stands right now right?
Yes
Okay and we re talkin about the police car with the-the tape on it
right?
Yes
Okay. And from there you see a police officer getting
ou t
of his car?
Uh huh.
And
is
he in
the
passenger side
or
driver s side?
No he s in the driver s side.
Okay he gets
out
of his driver s side car-of his car and he goes which
direction?
He
go well if that s west he runs east.
Okay so he s running east now right?
Yes
Okay now at that point you don t see anybody else
other
than the
police officer there right?
I
see
I saw the man running afterwards but at this point yes.
Okay yeah-yeah at
just at
this
point
you
don t
see anybody else right?
Yes
Okay.
At what
point do you hear gunshots?
W ell I he ar d e m. Soon as I heard
the
skirrr I looked
out the
window,
I heard gunshots. So it was l ike all in that order.
So seconds?
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Yes
Exact same
time
almost?
Yes
Okay.
It was like skirrr , phone call boom-boom-boom it was just all
together.
That fast?
Yes
Okay.
cause um the way I heard it he shot while he was trying to pull the
guy
Okay I m -I m gonna stop ya okay?
Oh this first-hand?
Yeah-yeah-yeah.
You
just
want
first-hand free.
I got you. Not rumored just-just
what
you know okay?
Okay.
Okay
so
the officer
out
of
his vehicle and he is running east on
Canfield right?
Uh
huh.
You leave
that
west facing
window,
right?
Yes
And you go where first?
To my-my bal oh I grab my phone first then go
to
my balcony.
Okay. You go
to
your balcony right? And you re inside looking
ou t
first?
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Yes at first.
Okay and then you have a sliding glass door
or
something there?
Yeah.
Okay
so
you re looking
o u t t he
sliding glass door.
Uh huh.
And which
way
are y ou look in g? Are y ou loo king more
towards
th e car
the police car or are you looking more
towards
the east over here?
Well at fir. w ell I m loo kin towards
th e
police running this way
bu t
then
my attention turned
to
th e
Monte
Carlo right here cause I was
wondering
1was
tryin to
see ho w
it
all synchronized together and
whether that
car was in
the wrong
and
whether they w ere t he
ones
that s
in trouble and running away so I had
my
Right. Are you s ti ll in th e house at this point? In
th e
apartment?
Yeah I had my attention turned there.
Okay
so
your attention gets directed
to
t he Mon te Carlo right?
Yes
How
long d o y ou
think your attention
was directed
to the Monte
Carlo
for?
Ten seconds maybe thirty I said ten seconds thirty Ten seconds
maybe twenty
Okay so ten t o t we n ty seconds
Yeah .
your attention is directed at
t he Mon te
Carlo and
Yes
.
I m assuming th e man that s hiding behind t he Mo nt e Carlo.
Yes And at this p oi nt n ow that I m thinkin about it I m witnessing th e
b oy r un past
th e
Monte Carlo cause um no w
that
I m thinkin clearly
he um I m looking directly ou t this window The Monte Carlo s right
here. He was kneeling
down
like slowly scootin up tryin cause as th e
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police was running he was going towards this way so
the
police
wouldn t see him. So I m lookin at th e police and
th e
g uy r un nin . The
g uy was a
little
ways ahead of him so I couldn t really technically see
anything
bu t
th e back side of him. So I m looking at
the
police running
to
while I m lookin at this um
th e
guy in th e
Monte
Carlo cause I was
tryin
to
think
1
thought
he was hiding but really he was
just
scared fo r
his life that type stuff.
Okay so you re talking about
th e
guy creeping
Yes .
is th e guy hiding around
t he M on te
Carlo?
Yes
Okay. So that guy in th e
Monte
Carlo continues to kinda work his way
towards th e
front
of
th e
vehicle
while th e
police officer s
Is running west.
w hich w il l be
towards th e
west okay.
Yes
As the police officer continues running east right? Okay.
Well yeah.
t
what
point d o yo u c om e
ou t
of your apartment then?
Well
no w
that as soon as I saw
that
as soon as I m walkin
ou t
and then
that s when
I saw
th e
man.
Okay so you re walkin
ou t
of your apartment and where d o you w al k
first?
Um directly on
my balcony.
Okay
so
So on this side.
on your balcony first.
On
your side of
th e
balcony
first
Yes
Okay. And
what
do you see at
that
point?
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Sound of bell [cell])
The man do this and get shot. Like I
didn t
see anything
prior
to, um, I
heard the gunshots so I assumed he got shot more than
that
bu t I didn t
see him specifically get shot nothin
bu t
those tw o times where he
turned around, did this,
go t
shot and
go t
shot again.
Okay. And t hat s f rom your balcony o r f ro m y ou r neighbor s balcony?
That was still from
my
balcony.
Okay, so you re on a
the-the
west side of the balcony then, right?
Yes
Okay, so you re on the west side of th e balcony. You re on th e so
you re
lookin in
f ro n t o f
1guess
you re
lookin
through that-that
a
porch area, awning area. Is that what you re sayin ?
Um, yeah. Well, you can actually see everything
from
here, so even
fro m m y
balcony over
there
I can see directly everything
from
there.
Alright.
So
you looked
down
and
when
you looked
down
here, can you
see
the
police officer?
Yes
What s th e police officer doing?
Sh
shot
the
man.
What -what s
he do ing? Show m e
ho w
he s standing. I-I
don t
mean
get
ou t o f t he
car. I m
just
Oh, okay. He-he, wel l, he had l ik e o ne hand here. The m an loo ke d l ik e
this.
Yeah,
so th e
police
officer
had one hand where?
I m
thinkin
I m
tryin to think
correctly, cause I
don t
wanna
just
say
anything.
I m pretty sure that he had o ne h and h er e bu t he alre ady had his gun in
his hand so it was just like a-a
turn
thing. I don t k no w. It s kinda
ho w
you guys stand-how you stand when you have your gu n in your hand
and
you re facin it toward s om eb od y. But, I remember lookin -Iookin
directly at his face as he di d it. His face was completely red with who
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knows with anger
or
somethin . And
then
he
just
ki lled h im and he
backed away a
l i tt le bit
and started pointing at people to direct
them
away
from
everything
that
was going on and
that is
where I start
recording it so I have video of
that
happening.
Alright. So
th e
officer is standing
ho w
fa r
from-from the
deceased
individual?
T wo fee t thr ee . M ay be o ne ya rd or.
Two
or
three feet is I mean three feets this right?
Uh huh.
He s
that
close?
Yeah.
Okay.
So
are his arms extended? The officer s arms extended?
In
what
way? Fr on t or.
Well I mean
is
he holding
the
gun? Like arms extended
ou t
like this?
Oh yes there
that s
okay so you were asking me b efor e he s ho t h im .
Or is it-is it closer to
I
thought
you
were
sayin after. While before he shot him he was
close.
Ho w close?
He was right
I m-I m thinkin th e
officer was r ig ht h er e and
th e
police
was right there. So
b ef or e he sh ot hi m he
wasn t three feet bu t
he was
close about I ll give
it
tw o
or three
yards.
So
he s okay
so
he s tw o
or three
yards away.
Yes cause he was shootin as he was running. They were shootin if
they were-if they
were running away. That s
wh y
he
turned
around and
pu t
his ar ms up in
the
air and then
go t
closer and shot him.
Okay so
th e
officer s
go t
his arm extended out.
Yes
Does he have his
left
arm or his right arm extended out?
21
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I don t remember.
Okay. And
do
you remember him saying anything?
No. I can t I was too busy crying and gasping
to
hear much
but
that last
gunshot.
Okay so the so
the
deceased individual.
was he runnin ?
Yes
Which way was he running?
That way f rom the police car to
that
way.
And
He was originally walking this way.
When he stops running
what
does he do?
He
just
turns around and stops.
So
just
stops dead in his tracks.
Yes
And-and
But
after-after
he
got
shot
that first time,
I
don t know
which
time
it
was
but after he got
that
shot he turned around and wanted the police to
realize he was
not
armed so he had his arms up and then got shot again.
Okay do you
know where
he
got
shot?
A
head. He
got
shot right in his face.
Okay. And then um
so
once
the-the
guy falls
to the
ground right? The
deceased individual falls to
the
ground.
What
happens then?
I wanna I-I
think
he sh ot h im t wi ce . But he sho t hi m b ef or e he was on
the
ground so it would, I don t
think
he s l ike he was laying on the
ground just s ho t again. But i t s l ik e
boom-boom
and then he fell.
Okay so he was he didn t shoot him when he was laying on
the
ground?
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Yeah, no.
Yes?
I m sorry. I mi xed that I m ix up my w ords. No, he did
no t
shoot him
while he was on
th e
ground
Okay.
that I could tell.
Alr ig ht. Okay. And the n- an d then that s when you started recording,
correct?
Yes
Okay, here um, because you obviously have a-a-a important piece
of
the
incident on
your
phone okay
Uh huh.
A I d l ike
to
t ak e a l oo k at your phone. I m assuming
you re
okay with
that.
Yeah, you probably won t be able
to
see anything.
It d
be better if I sent
it to you.
DET Okay, well I guess
video recording playing-PC):
Got
no
gun,
theyjust
killed this nigger. is blood everywhere.
I found, this is the first video I took.
You
can t, you can just see from
th e
little
UI)
video recording playing-PC): Holy shit. They just kil/ed this nigger. Outside
my
p rtmentwhere he
ain t armed. e don t got
no
gun. They just killed this nigger. is blood
everywhere.
DET No w
that s just
you UI) ?
Yeah,
th e
video s on.
video recording playing-PC): Fuck th e police. That s aI/I got
to
s y
bout
this shit. his shit
ridiculous.
DET Alright, so that was
the first
video that you had and that shows
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I m sor ry. Let
me
I
don t
believe that
that
wa s
th e
first
one
cause th e
first on e I wa s ... here
is th e
very first one. Sorry my phone
is
horrible.
It s dropped wa y
to o
many times.
Yeah it s on e of
th e
w ors t da ma ged phone s I ve seen.
And it just h ap pe ns t o b e
th e
on e with
th e
evidence on it.
With
th e
what?
With th e evidence on it. Man I don t wanna ac t ridiculous. So it just
an d
sometimes
it
e ve n p re ss
butt ons w hen it
wants
to it s like
...
Ya know what?
Here s
what
I m
gonna
a here s
what
I m gonna ask
you
to
do okay?
Uh
huh.
We ve got a. w e v e g ot a forensics guy wh o
can-who
ca n
ge t
everything
off th e
phone
okay?
Okay.
I m just gonna ask him
to
take a look
at
it. You okay with that? Alright.
Ummm.
J us t d o
me
this
just
do
me
this favor
okay?
Here um go ahead
an d
pu t date an d time an d w he re w e re a t an d
basically
this
is
just
sayin
that
we
can take it an d
then we
can
we ca n ge t everything
off
th e
phone.
Okay?
Okay.
Okay.
Um ar e you suppose
to pu t th e
fact
that
you re
searchin
th e phone
first?
Yeah uh h uh . But you re
gonna
write that.
Okay.
Yeah yeah.
UI I g ive my consent UI .
No-no-no.
That s -that s DNA. Don t worry about that part.
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Okay.
It s just this to p h alf here. They just put two tw o different a things on
on o ne for m. So today
is
obviously a August 9 2014.
You all should fix my phone fo r me too 2014.
2014.
I thought you said 13
fo r
a second. I t s 246?
DET
Uh huh. And loc at io n yo u can
just
use
check the consent to search box, okay.
address . So and
then
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Describe items and location in detail. Okay, so phone and gallery
Well, check
th e
box f irst . There you go. And,
then just write your
full
n ame r ig ht the re . Okay, and then it says obviously
that
we can-that we
can search your and however, you describe
what is
it? It s a black LG
Optimist, right?
Uh
huh.
Okay, so my a black and severely broken, I m kiddin , about
that
part.
My
black
And damaged.
a LG Optimist phone.
Okay, this excludes all text messages and/or phone calls.
Okay,
just
ou t of curiosity why-why are you excluding that
part
of it?
Just
fo r
my-my own, m y o wn w an t. You won t be able
to
read em
anyway, well if you gonna, if
th e
forensic person can get em
of f
here, it
doesn t matter. cause you should only need to search what s
pertaining
to
the evidence
of
this crime scene. UI). Okay.
Okay, and then um, just
with
phone number, and then
pu t
your phone
number there.
Okay. And then, where
it
says consent, signature on the bottom down
there.
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Consent.
Consent signature.
Oh, this one? W ait, where UI)?
The second line right there, consent signature. Right there consent
signature.
Oh, okay.
And then
just
pu t a
And this
isn t
fo r DNA?
No, it s not. No.
.
my
date
of
birth
and all
that?
Yes
ma am. All that stuff.
The address
to
UI).
Uh huh, yeah.
I don t live there anymore.
Including your apartment number.
I don t
know
wh y I p ut t he street after, I m just all messed up today.
5hewww Missouri 5t Louis Missouri Um I
just
have a question.
Wh y was th e
officer
taken away so swiftly?
I wasn t here.
Oh, okay.
So I
can t
answer that question. A and
t he n j us t
pu t y ou r, oh y ou
already
go t your
phone down.
So
Okay.
I ll take that And, t he n let m e Let me take
that
please. Okay, so is
there a-is there a password on it or anything?
Nope. It s completely open.
Can I see it?
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Yep All th e last like nine videos were taken.
OK so
if I close it I close it like that. Is
that
right?
Uh
huh.
And then I turn it o n l ike that
Yeah.
And
then
ho w do I like go back like to a
home
screen or. ?
Okay
l et m e
give you this. I had to
download an
app
fo r
it since
it s
so
b ro ke n. I m s or ry
about
this. Ah
there
you go. I t s r igh t t he re . See
ho w
it
just clicks everywhere?
Yeah.
That
little
home
button
w il l t ake you home. The back
button
will take
you back.
How d you figure
that
out?
I had
to
download a app fo r it.
Okay.
I
j us t k no w t he re
had
to
be a app
fo r
it.
I m
just
gonna
t urn i t of f so th e battery
doesn t die. Which one do I
need to
The to p one. Po wer o ff .
This one?
Yep and then okay.
There?
Yeah sometimes
it
just acts really stupid
to
where you have
to
like turn
it on and turn
it off
again and then do it again.
Okay.
There you go.
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A lr ig ht. Okay. I m go nna
pu t
it right here
fo r
now. Um, do you have
any other,
what s your
girlfriend s phone number?
Uh huh.
Did you talk
to
anybody about this?
Oh, I
put t hat
video on my Facebook and it
go t
19 likes and 13
comments
bu t
I
haven t
had a chance
to
read
e m
yet.
Okay, did you talk to anybody about t he actual inc id en t b efor e yo u
talked to me?
My
co-worker,
my
roommate.
Your co-worker meaning
a
okay.
yeah. Um,
wait
wh o else UI), oh, and
tw o
people called me because
they said I saw a picture on instagram
your
apartment complex. Are
yo u okay? They called m e so I was explaining, so um and my
best friend . I
just
briefly described
to
say um, a g uy
go t
shot.
We
just, w e don t w e
tryin
to figure ou t
what
happened UI).
Okay. Okay. Is there anything else
that
you feel
that
is
important
that
we should know?
A just
well
no t
probably
nothing
I
don t
already know.
Is
this
your
best recollection of
the-of
th e incident. You re
not-you re
no t
leaving anything out?
No.
You re
no t
embellishing anything?
No,
no t
exaggerating anything.
Okay. Um, this is your-your most
truthful
statement
that-that
you have,
right?
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Yes sir
Okay
f th r is
nothing else
th tim is
2:52 p m and this wil l stop
th
interview