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IEEE 802.11 TGv September AgendaDate: 2008-09-10
Name Company Address Phone email Dorothy Stanley Aruba Networks 1322 Crossman Ave
Sunnyvale, CA 630-363-1389 dstanley@arubanetworks.
com
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Abstract
This presentation contains the IEEE 802.11 TGv agenda and motions for September 2008.
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TGv – September 2008• Call Meeting to Order
• Policies and Procedures, Attendance reminder, see https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/file/08/11-08-0058-00-0000-opening-network-information-attendance-and-documentation-for-january-2008-session.ppt
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• IEEE 802 Policies and Procedures - http://www.ieee802.org/policies-and-procedures.pdf
** Read slide deck*** Note especially items #7 & #11
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TGv Agenda
• Tuesday Eve– Channel Usage CID 87 – Brian– Sleep CIDs 397, 693, 692, Virtual AP
Attendance reminder: http://newton/ **for each timeslot*** Documents: https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/documents
• Monday PM1 – CR – Event 08-987r1 , Roaming 250, Sleep 191, TCLAS & STA Statistics 956r6, Timing Measurement 1011r1
• Monday PM2– Presentation – 08-963-01- All Groups – Alex– CR –TIM Broadcast 130, 270, 273, TFS 1364– CR – Collocated Int, 1031-00, 1034-00
• Thursday AM1– Annex Q – Joe, General 1239, 1257 - Qi
– Motions
• Monday Evening– CR – Diagnostics – 1246, 1248, M-Diag 1258, Event
1247
• Monday AM2– Call to Order, IP info & query, Approve Agenda– Chair’s Welcome, Status, Review of Objectives– Motions – Denver & ad-hoc/telecon minutes– Diagnostics CIDs 163, 227, 08-1013r2; TFS 353 & FBMS
351, FBMS 1275, TFS 1364– (30) Presentation – AP Power Down
• Thursday PM1– Motions– Plans for November, Adjourn
• Tuesday AM2– CID 269 - Directed Multicast – Emily– CID 251 - Frame Priority – Virtual AP -08-993r1– AP Power Down Motion
• Weds PM 1 – Motions, Event normative text – Joe, 1322,
401, 130, 270
• Tuesday PM2– Motions – CR- General – category 1274 (08-1059 AP Collaboration), UTC
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September Meeting Status & Objectives
• TGv Status– Draft 3.01 available
– LB 133 Comments available in 11-08-0801
– Bob Miller is able to serve as TGv Secretary through Sept 08, then we need a volunteer to take over from Bob
• September Meeting Objectives– Comment Resolution
– Hear Presentations
– Letter Ballot
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Documents for 08/801 comment resolutionCategory Volunteers Document
Annex Joe Kwak 08-979
Collocated Interference Jari Jokela, Jing Zhu 08-991
Diagnostics D. Stanley 08-901
Event Joe Kwak 08-987
FBMS A. Thomson 08-898
General D. Stanley 08-841
Multicast Diagnostics Alex Ashley 08-889
Location/Timing A. Thomson/Ganesh 08-897
Proxy ARP D. Stanley 08-866
Roaming Management Emily Qi 08-883
SleepMode Emily Qi 08-986
STA Statistics Y. Seok, G. Venkatsan 08-956
TFS Emily Qi 08-886
TIM Broadcast M. Wentink 08-967
Traffic Generation Moo-Ryong Jeong 08-990
Virtual AP D. Stanley, Qi Wang 08-993
TCLAS G. Venkatsan 08-956
Channel Usage E. Qi 08-985
Resolutions # CID # remaining
8/19 1 0
8/26 25 0 (6)
Denver, 8/19 38 0 (2)
8/20 48 10
8/18 66 0
8/19 258 6 issues
8/12 29 0
8/18 91/16 0 (1), (16)
Denver 9 2
Denver 14 0
8/19, 9/2 34 0
8/18 18 0
Denver, 8/19 11 0
9/2 30 2 (1)
8/20 13 0 (1)
53 1 (52)
8/18 8 0
8/19 22 0
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TGv Schedule History • Wireless Network Management SG formed – Jan 2004• Wireless Networks Management TG formed – Nov 2004• Call for proposals – Sept 2005• Base line accepted - January 06 • Submissions addressing objectives - Started in March 06• TG Ad-Hoc Draft Internal Review - October 06 to present
– Internal review of Draft 0.05 – 446 comments (06/1615)– Internal review of Draft 0.08 – 95 comments (07/0310) – Internal review of Draft 0.10 - 281 comments (07/0594)
• LB 108 Results: 132 yes -77 no -38 abstain, 63% approval, fails, comments in 11-07-2368
• LB 123 Results: 126 yes, 62 no, 34 abstain, 67% approval, fails, comments in 11-08-0265
• LB 133 Results: 106 yes, 47 no, 28 abstain, 69% approval, comments in 11-08-0801
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TGv Timeline – Updated July, 2008 • Initial Working Group Letter Ballot: July 07 – completed
– Jan 08 – D2.0, May 08 – D3.0
• Re-circulation Working Group Letter Ballot: September 08 (D4.0)– Jan 09 – D5.0, Mar 09 – D 6.0, May 09 – D7.0, D7.0(unchanged)
• Form Sponsor Ballot Pool: June 09• Initial Sponsor Ballot: July 09
– Potential March 09 Conditional to Sponsor – Else June 09 Revcom Agenda– July 09 – D7.0
• Approved Sponsor Ballot: September 09– Nov 09 – D8.0, Jan 09 D9.0, Feb D10.0, March D11.0– Feb 6th (or so) to get on March 2010 agenda, May 12th ( or so) for Revcom June
Approval
• Final WG/EC Approval: March or July 2010 • RevCom/Standards Board Approval: June 4th/June 5th(or so)• Note: TGv PAR is authorized through Dec 2010
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TGv D3.0 Content Summary • BSS Transition Management for Network Load Balancing
• Channel Usage
• Co-located Interference Reporting
• Diagnostic Reporting
• Event Reporting
• Flexible Broadcast/Multicast service
• Multicast Diagnostics Reporting
• Multiple BSSID Support
• Multiple SSID
• Proxy ARP
• Location, Timing Measurement
• TIM Broadcast
• TFS
• Sleep Mode
• Approximately 250 Pages of content
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Known November Presentations
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November Meeting Planning
• Objectives– Comment Resolution
– Hear Presentations
– Letter Ballot
• Conference Call(s)
• Ad-Hoc meeting
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Motion 1
• Move to adopt the agenda in 11-08-1041-01-000v-September-2008-agenda.
• Mover:
• Seconder:
• Result: Unanimous
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Motion 2
• Move to approve the meeting minutes in 11-08-0832-00-000v-July-2008-Minutes-for-Task-Group-v and 11-08-0979-03-000v-TGv-August-September-08-telecon-and-ad-hoc-meeting-notes.doc.
• Mover: Darwin Engwer
• Seconder: Emily Qi
• Result: Unanimous
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Motion 3
• Move to instruct the TGv editor to replace:
“The Group MAC Address field can be set to 7F-FF-FF-FF-FF-FE to indicate that all group addressed frames, apart from the broadcast MAC address, are requested.”
in sub-clause 7.3.2.21.10a D3.0 of the TGv draft with:
“A Group MAC Address field with the LSB of the first octet set to zero indicates that all group addressed frames, apart from the broadcast MAC address, are requested.”
• Mover: Alex Ashley
• Seconder: Allan Thomson
• Result: 12-1-5 Motion Passes
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Straw Polls 1-3
• Related to CIDs 1246, 1248, 1258• The resolution to the comment for "diagnostics" should be "accept" 3• The resolution to the comment for "diagnostics" should be "decline" 7,
with 2 abstain
• The resolution to the comment for "multicast diagnostics" should be "accept" 3
• The resolution to the comment for "multicast diagnostics" should be "decline" 5, with 4 abstain
• Related to CID 1247• The resolution to the comment for "event" should be "accept" 3• The resolution to the comment for "event" should be "decline" 2, with 7
abstain
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Motion 4
• Move to incorporate the changes in document 11-08-0947-02-000v-ap-power-down-notification.doc into the TGv draft.
• Moved: Allan Thomson
• Seconded: Daniel Borges
• Result: 9-0-5 Motion Passes
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Motion 5
• Move to incorporate the changes in 11-08-0050-03-000v-normative-text-for-directed-multicast into the TGv draft.
• Mover: Emily Qi
• Seconder: Darwin Engwer
• Result: 7-4-5 Motion fails
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Motion 6
• Move to adopt TGv Draft 3.01 as the current TGv draft.
• Mover: Allan Thomson
• Seconder: Qi Wang
• Result: 13-0-2 Passes
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Motion 7: Adopt resolutions agreed to in Denver (but not previously voted on), in the telecons and
ad-hoc• Move to adopt the comment resolutions for comments in the categories indicated below,
and include the indicated text changes into the TGv draft.– 08-0889-02 (Multicast Diagnostics) - All accepted, counter and declined comments, except for comment category
53– 08-0901-02 (Diagnostics) – All accepted, counter and declined comments, text changes in 08-0902-02– 08-0990-01 (Traffic Generation) - All accepted, counter and declined comments, except CID 73– 08-0986-01 (Sleep Mode) - All accepted, counter and declined comments– 08-0985-01 (Channel Usage) - All accepted, counter and declined comments– 08-0897-01 (Location) - All accepted, counter and declined comments, normative text changes in 08-946-01,
except for 1367– 08-0898-01 (FBMS) - All accepted, counter and declined comments– 08-0956-07 (STA Statistics and TCLAS) - All accepted, counter and declined comments, with text changes in 08-
966-07– 08-841-02 (General) - All accepted, counter and declined comments, except for comments in comment categories
1274, 401– CID 241 as in 08-979-01 (Annex)– 08-987-01 (Event) - All accepted, counter and declined comments except for CIDs 1332, 77, 340, 646, 1227,
1327, 1328, 1247, 193 and 1405– 08-0991-02 (Collocated Interference) – All accepted, counter and declined comments, except for CIDs 302, 303,
304, 305, 306, 307, 308– 08-0967-04 (TIM Broadcast) – All accepted, counter and declined comments, with normative text changes in 08-
1054-02, except CIDs 38, 164, 273
• Mover: Alex Ashley• Seconder: Bill Marshall• Result: 13-0-3 Passes
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Motion 8: Adopt resolutions agreed on Sept 8th
• Move to adopt the comment resolutions for comments in the categories indicated below, and include the indicated text changes into the TGv draft.
– 08-0889-03 (Multicast Diagnostics) – CID1258, comment category 53– 08-0886-03 (TFS) – CIDs 353, 1364– 08-0898-01 (FBMS) – CIDs 351, 1275– 08-0883-03 (BSS Transition) – CID 248, 250– 08-0986-03 (Sleep Mode) – CID191– 08-0901-03 (Diagnostics) – CIDs 1246, 1248– 08-0967-04 (TIM Broadcast) – CIDs 38, 164, 273 with text changes in 08-1054-02
• Mover: Alex Ashley• Seconder: Allan Thomson• Result: 10-0-3 Passes
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Motion 9
• Move to incorporate the changes in document 11-08-0419-02-000v-proposed-resolution-for-cid423-et-al-on-ap-collaboration.doc into the TGv draft, and – resolve CID 1274, as “accepted”, with a comment resolution of
“Incorporate text changes in 08-0419-02” and – Resolve CIDs 400, 1404, 1411 as “counter”, with a comment
resolution of “see CID 1274”
• Moved: Bob Miller• Seconded: Bill Marshall• Result 7-6-7 Motion fails
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Motion 10
• Move to incorporate the changes in document 11-08-1095-00-000v-normative-changes-for-channel-usage.doc into the TGv draft and– Resolve CID 87 as “counter” with a resolution of “Incorporate the
text changes in 08-1095-00”
• Moved: Brian Hart
• Seconded: Allan Thomson
• Result: 9-2-5 motion passes
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Motion 11 : Adopt resolutions agreed on Sept 9th
• Move to adopt the comment resolutions for comments in the categories indicated below, and include the indicated text changes into the TGv draft.
– 08-0986-03 (Sleep Mode) – CIDs 397, 692, 693– 08-993-02 (Virtual AP) - All accepted, counter and declined comments, normative text
changes in 1034-01
– 08-0990-01 (Traffic Generation) - CID 73– 08-0866-00 (Proxy ARP) – CID 1285
• Mover: Alex Ashley• Seconder: Allan Thomson• Result: 10-0-3
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Motion still needed for these comments
• 08-0897-02 (Location) - CID1367• 08-993-02 (Virtual AP) – CID 318
– Resolve CID 318 with “declined” and a comment resolution of “It is stated in 7.3.2.46, line 5, page 39 of 11v_D3.0, that "the reference BSSID is the BSSID of the frame.”
• 08-841-03 (General) – CIDs 251, 252, 253, 254, 313 [category 251, decline mgt frame priority will have proposal in November]
• 08-841-04 (General) CID 269
• 08-987-02 (Event) - CIDs 1247, 193, 1405• 08-1147-01 (TIM Broadcast) CIDs 130, 270
– Resolve CID 130 with “counter” and a comment resolution of “Incorporate the text in 08-1147-01.”– Resolve CID 270 with “counter” and a coment resolution of “See CID 130”
• General 1239, 1257 • General 401• General 1274• 08-1011-04 (Timing Measurement) - All accepted, counter and declined comments, normative text changes in
0842-04 • 08-866-02 (Proxy ARP) - 1322• 08-1013 (Diagnostics) – CIDs 163, 227• 08-0991-02 (Collocated Interference) – CIDs 302, 303, 304, 305, 306, 307, 308
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Summary: normative text changes in 0842-03 vs 0842-04 (Timing Measurement)
• Clause 7.4.11.23:– Added Timestamp Difference StdDev to the Timing Measurement action frame in 7.4.11.23 (figure v100 and in
the description that follows). This is to keep track of variations in the time it takes to send a frame and receive the corresponding ACK.
– Cleaned up the description of what fields are present in the Timing Measurement action frame and when. Specifically removed discussion on Rx Time as it is not relevant in describing the frame format.
– Tightened up the definition of Tx Time – to be time at which the energy corresponding to the start of the preamble for the frame is seen at the medium (air interface)
• Clause 10.3.51:– Tightened the definition of times t1, t2, t3 and t4 in figure v104. See the expanded Note.– Added missing parameters (and corresponding descriptions) to Request, Confirm and Indication primitives.
• Clause 11.20.6:– Cleaned up figure V114 and removed redundant duplicate definitions of t2, t3 and t4– Added the formula to estimate offset– Added text to discuss what happens if ACKs are lost
• Clause 14 through 20:– Replaced tactual with “Time of Arrival Timestamp” to match the description in RXVECTOR.
• Annex-D– Added a MIB variable to define the constant offset from when PMD_TXSTART is stamped and when the
actual preamble starts (dot11MgmtToDOffsettoPreamble)– Cleaned descriptions of dot11MgmtOptionToDConstantInterval1, dot11MgmtOptionToDConstantInterval2 and
dot11MgmtOptionRxTimeConstantInterval
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Motion 13
• Move to adopt the comment resolutions for comments in the categories indicated below, and include the indicated text changes into the TGv draft.
– 08-987-02 (Event) - CIDs 1332, 77, 340, 646, 1227, 1327, 1328, marking CID 1227 as “deferred”, and including the normative text changes in 08-1117-00
– Moved: Joe Kwak
– Seconded: Alex Ashley
– Result 7-1-5 motion passes
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Motion
• Move to resolve comments in General comment category 401 as “declined”, with the resolution indicated in 11-08-0841-03.
– Moved:
– Seconded:
– Result
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Motion
• Move to incorporate the changes in document 11-08-1013-03-000v-additional-diagnostic-edits.doc into the TGv draft and– Resolve CIDs 163 and 227 as “counter” with a resolution of
“Incorporate the text changes in 08-1013-03”
– Moved:
– Seconded:
– Result
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Motion
Move to authorize TGv Teleconferences – Date, Time
– Eastern for 2 hours.
• Mover:
• Seconder:
• Result:
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Motion
Move to authorize a TGv Ad-hoc meeting date, place, hosted by
• Mover:
• Seconder:
• Result:
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Motion
• Move to instruct the editor to – Close any remaining unapproved comments with the
disposition Declined and the Resolution “TGv believes that it needs additional input through a WG Letter Ballot”
• Mover:
• Seconder:
• Result:
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Motion
• Move– To request the 802.11 WG chair to conduct a 15-day
confirmation ballot on TGv Draft D3.0x, and
– To request the 802.11 Working Group to renumber TGv Draft D3.0x, if the confirmation ballot succeeds, as D4.0 and authorize a 30-day Letter Ballot.
• Mover:
• Seconder:
• Result:
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Straw Poll
The TGv xx feature should • Be mandatory in the PICS
• Be optional in the PICS
• No opinion
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References