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TGs Process, NovemberDate: 2008-11-13

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Abstract

Slides for discussion of the IEEE 802.11 TGs process in getting through Working Group Letter Ballot and Beyond.

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Mesh NetworkingTask Group Process

TGs Motto: “Perfection is achieved not when there is nothing left to add but when there is nothing left to

take away.”

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Process of Getting toLetter Ballot and Beyond

• Adoption of PAR and 5 Criteria• Technical Presentations and Discussions, Specify Any Additional

Requirements, Comparison Criteria, or Other Documents• Call For and Presentation of Proposals• Select from Submitted Complete Proposals to Produce a Draft• Refine Draft• 1st Letter Ballot – November 2006 – Fails• Resolve Comments• 2nd Letter Ballot – March 2008 – Fails • Resolve Comments• 3rd Letter Ballot – January 2009 (?)• Recirculation• Sponsor Ballot – November 2009 (?)• Recirculation• Final WG/EC Approval• IEEE SB REVCOM Approval

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Process for Refining Draft

• Letter Ballot #93 on Draft D1.0 authorized at November 2006 meeting.– Approval rate 48%. 5,713 comments, about ½ Editorial and ½

Technical.

• Letter Ballot #126 on Draft D2.0 authorized at the March 2008 meeting.– Approval rate 61%. 1,964 comments, about 1/3 Editorial and 2/3

Technical.

• 75% approval required to pass.

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Advantages/Disadvantages of Passing/Failing Letter Ballot

Advantages Disadvantages

Passing Letter Ballot

You enter “re-circulation” so subsequent votes are 15 days and voters can only add comment each time on parts of the Draft that have changed or been affected by changes.

The voting pool is fixed and no new people joining 802.11 can vote.

You must resolve every comment by a ¾ vote.

You can only change the draft through the resolution of comments.

Failing Letter Ballot

You are free to make whatever changes in the Draft the task group wants.

Your next Letter Ballot must be at least 30 days and will include everyone in the 802.11 Working Group at that time and they can comment on any part of the Draft.

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3 Cycles of Comments and Resolution

Call for Informal Comments

Comment Resolution

Comment Resolution

WG Letter Ballot / Recirculation

Sponsor Ballot / RecirculationComment Resolution

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Summary of Comment Resolution

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  LB #126Closed Thru Jacksonville

Closed Thru Denver

Closed Thru Waikoloa

Total 1964 100% 474 24% 783 40% 1506 77%

Editorial 656 33% 297 45% 450 69% 564 94%

Technical 1308 67% 177 14% 333 25% 942 69%

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Schedule Projected at Waikoloa, Hawai‘i, (September) Meeting

• July 2008 (Denver, Colorado)– Comment Resolution

• September 2008 (Waikoloa, Hawai‘i)– Comment Resolution

• November 2008 (Dallas, Texas)– Comment Resolution, Third Letter Ballot Authorized

• January 2009 (Los Angeles, California)– Comment Resolution

• March 2009 (Vancouver, British Columbia)– Third Letter Ballot Re-circulation

• May 2009 (Montreal, Qubec)– Comment Resolution

• July 2009 (San Francisco, California)– Comment Resolution, LB Recirculation

• September 2009 (Waikoloa, Hawai‘i)– Comment Resolution, LB Recirculation

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January– Los Angeles Meeting Schedule• We will probably have 20 hours (10 regular 2 hour

sessions):

– 1 hr Opening Session: Administrivia, Minutes, Agenda, Process

– 18 hr Comment Resolution and Draft Improvement

– 1 hr Closing Session: Process, Teleconferences /Ad Hocs

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Schedule Projected at Dallas, Texas, (November) Meeting

• September 2008 (Waikoloa, Hawai‘i)– Comment Resolution

• November 2008 (Dallas, Texas)– Comment Resolution

• January 2009 (Los Angeles, California)– Comment Resolution, Third Letter Ballot Authorized

• March 2009 (Vancouver, British Columbia)– Comment Resolution

• May 2009 (Montreal, Qubec)– Comment Resolution, Letter Ballot Re-circulation

• July 2009 (San Francisco, California)– Comment Resolution

• September 2009 (Waikoloa, Hawai‘i)– Comment Resolution, LB Recirculation

• November 2009 (Atlanta Georgia)– Comment Resolution, LB Recirculation

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TGs Activity Between Meetings

• TGs Activities Between Meetings Requiring Notice:– One or more face to face ad hoc meetings,

requires 30 days notice (P&P clause 3.6.2).– One or multiple Teleconferences, requires 10

days notice, not more often than weekly (P&P clause 3.6.3).

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TGs Activity Between Meetings

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Future Inter 802.11 Meeting Activities

• Teleconferences– Teleconferences could be scheduled after the Dallas

meeting, through the March 2009 Montreal 802 Plenary Meeting.

– For example:• 2008: Dec 3, 17

• 2009: Jan 7, Feb 4, 18, Mar 4

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Future Inter 802.11 Meeting Activities

• Ad Hoc possibilities– We could meet somewhere before Los Angeles.

– If we want an ad hoc within 30 days after the Los Angeles meeting, it needs to be authorized at this meeting.

– However, travel budgets seem to be limited…

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References• Earlier TGs Process Submissions

– September 2008, 11-08/1049r2, Waikoloa, Hawai‘i

– July 2008, 11-08/831r2, Denver, Colorado

– May 2008, 11-08/570r2, Jacksonville, Florida

– March 2008, 11-08/320r1, Orlando, Florida

– January 2008, 11-08/82r1, Taipei, Taiwan

– November 2007, 11-07/2812, Atlanta, Georgia

– September 2007, 11-07/2398r1, Waikoloa, Hawai‘i• September 2007, 11-07/2408r0, Līhu‘e, Kaua‘i, Hawai‘i (ad hoc)

– July 2007, 11-07/2142r1, San Francisco, California

– May 2007, 11-07/677r3, Montreal, Quebec

• Draft P802.11s D2.02

• 11-07/493r27, LB#126 Comments Resolution Spreadsheet