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Page 1: Discussion points on ancient human rights

Discussion points on ancient human rights

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• Within cities, overpopulation would be a lethal problem.

• It would be difficult to control which persons survived in a crowd with a percent of disease.

• In a place where each person can breathe freely and meet their needs, the incidence of disease can be virtually eliminated.

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• It would occur at least somewhere, if not everywhere, that people would become the persons with the right to be in a place.

• All other persons would be ejected or refused entry.

• In this way, walled cities would be similar to gated communities, and vagrancy would not be tolerated.

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• It would probably happen that ejected persons or persons refused entry would be aware of the benefits of residing in such a place.

• These benefits would not need to be isolation, the microclimate would be enough.

• It would be important to keep recognized and required laborers from mingling with angry vagrants.

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• This provides an interesting conundrum.• It is difficult to prevent people from reproducing

once they are safe and fed. • It is also very difficult to provide for an unchecked

population growth. • Urban residents would not provide for unchecked

increases in family size, and cultures were filled with abandomnent and abortion.

• It seems logical that eliminating the vagrancy by killing them would be commonplace, and essential for prosperity.

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Consider the Nazis

In Germany at the time of Hitler, Germany was able to afford certain resource use under certain economic conditions. When a family purchases resources such as food and firewood in a way, the economy can sustain itself in a way. The Jewish population supported a great deal of untaxed and illegal traffic of both humans and resources. This negatively affected the German population during a critical time, and caused economic depression.

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They were no different than the Greeks

• The greeks would abandon their children.• When humans grew out of control, it was the citizens

duty to ensure that the land and resources were protected.

• These “uncivilized” humans would not be able to live far from where they were born. All claimed land was protected, they would be removed.

• It was frequent to kill persons who were not citizens and had no recognized connections to the local population. A traveler of standing and specific behavior could trade and move on, but would need to be interacting with the local economy in a culturally acceptable way.

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The Nazis were therefore culturally consistent with previous successful

cultures.• Houses (for tax and civil management purposes)

were surveyed and census data was collected as in every other nation.

• This information is important.• In Jewish homes there were large numbers of

unrecorded births and immigrants. • When the German government required the

Jewish populations to become citizens, they refused. These people were often conducting illegal trafficking, and likely protecting their trades with terrorism and murder, as in all mafias.

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They were merely trying to protect themselves.

• In order to preserve the wealth and lives of legitimate and civilly active Germans, the law had to be enforced. The laws were not different from French or English laws. Where death penalties existed in many cultures, such as the Ottoman empire, they existed in Germany. However, in order to enforce the law, an unprecedented number of persons needed to be removed. These people had nowhere to be deported to, and could only survive locally (in Germany). Many immigrants were likely criminals in foreign lands, and subject to the death penalty already.

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We can assume ancient cultures are rife with atrocity.

• To change the subject…

• In the modern era, we have similar groups to the Nazis, and see similar ethnic disrespect and response. It should be stated that it is considered in the United States to be disrespectful to trespass and endanger citizens.

• This page is unclear and inconsistent with the topic.

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