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BAGATELLE LANE ROAD SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS

Bagatelle Lane Road Safety Improvements

Public Consultation Report

May 2019

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Contents 1. Background ..................................................................................................................................... 4

1.1. Sustainable Transport Policy and Common Strategic Policy Aims .......................................... 4

2. Consultation .................................................................................................................................... 5

2.1 Consultation Process ............................................................................................................... 5

2.2 Purpose of the Consultation .................................................................................................... 5

2.3 Notification of Event ............................................................................................................... 5

2.4 Event Arrangements ................................................................................................................ 5

3. Consultation Material ...................................................................................................................... 6

3.1. Consultation Banners ............................................................................................................. 6

3.2 Questionnaires ........................................................................................................................ 6

4. Response to the Consultation ......................................................................................................... 7

4.1. Number of questionnaires returned ....................................................................................... 7

4.2. Analysis of Question 1 ............................................................................................................. 7



4.5. Analysis of Question 4 ........................................................................................................... 10

4.6. Analysis of comments ........................................................................................................... 11

5. Hautlieu Student responses .......................................................................................................... 12

6. Summary of Responses ................................................................................................................. 14

7. Conclusions ................................................................................................................................... 15

8. Recommendations ........................................................................................................................ 16

9. Follow-on Consultation ................................................................................................................. 17

9.1. Outline................................................................................................................................... 17

10 Consultation Process ........................................................................................................................ 18

10.1. Notification of Event ......................................................................................................... 18

10.2. Event Arrangements ......................................................................................................... 18

11 Consultation Material ...................................................................................................................... 19

11.1. Consultation Banners ........................................................................................................ 19

11.2 Questionnaires ...................................................................................................................... 19

12. Responses to the Consultation ....................................................................................................... 20

12.1. Number of questionnaires and on-line surveys returned ................................................ 20

12.2. Analysis of Question 1 ....................................................................................................... 20


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12.7. Analysis of free form comments. ...................................................................................... 31

13 Summary of Responses ................................................................................................................ 35

14. Conclusion ................................................................................................................................... 36

15. Recommendations ...................................................................................................................... 37

Appendix A – Invite letter to Initial Consultation ............................................................................. 38

Appendix B – Copy of Consultation Banners .................................................................................... 39

Appendix C – Responses to Question 4 ............................................................................................ 50

Appendix D – Answers to Question 5 ............................................................................................... 54

Appendix E – Invite to Second Consultation ..................................................................................... 59

Appendix F – Consultation Banners for Follow-on Consultation ...................................................... 60

Appendix G – Further Comments ..................................................................................................... 65

Drop-in consultation ..................................................................................................................... 65

On-line Surveys ............................................................................................................................. 67

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1. Background

1.1. Sustainable Transport Policy and Common Strategic Policy Aims In 2013, a wide ranging transport study of the schools and colleges within the St Saviours area was

undertaken on behalf of Transport and Technical Services (now Growth, Housing and Environment)

and the Department for Education, Sport and Culture (ESC).

The study looked into the following areas

Transport infrastructure provision

Road Safety

School operational issues

School practises related to transport

Scope for operational improvements and revisions to school buses

Traffic management in the schools area

Scope for promoting sustainable transport by encouraging alternative modes of travel other

than by car.

Data was collected by various means:

On-line student and parent surveys

Video surveys outside school entrances to identify and quantify vehicle and pedestrian

movements

Parking surveys within the schools and on-street

School bus data from Liberty Bus

Road traffic collision data

Meetings with head teachers, some PTA, school councils and ESC officers.

The study created the St Saviours Schools Action Plan (SSSAP)

One of the items to be identified as being a barrier to sustainable travel in the area was Bagatelle

Lane. It was highlighted as a particular problem for students walking between the bus park at JCG

and Hautlieu School. There is no continuous footway along the length of Bagatelle Lane, although

there are short sections of inadequately sized footways on both sides of the road. One length of

footway is in private ownership and the footway on the south-east side varies in width from 600mm

to 1.2m, well below the standard width for an urban footway (1.8m) or even a rural one at 1.5m.

GHE have been working collaboratively with the Parish of St Saviour, who administer Bagatelle Lane

to improve this route to make it safer for students and residents who walk along the lane.

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2. Consultation

2.1 Consultation Process Two community consultations have been carried out. The first consultation was to understand the

community concerns which then helped to inform the development of an improvement scheme. The

second was to obtain feedback on the developed proposal.

2.2 Purpose of the Consultation The consultation provided a platform for members of the public and for key business stakeholders to

comment on their issues and concerns. The consultation was open to everybody and aimed to try and

get as many view points as possible and an understanding of the issues from those using the area.

A Growth, Housing and Environment technical team were present at the drop-in consultation to

ensure that attendees’ needs and concerns were recorded on the questionnaire so that they could be

taken into account in the development of a scheme. The purpose of the consultation was to elicit user

views.

2.3 Notification of Event Letter drops were posted to 474 residents within the local area that could be affected by any proposals

brought forward. The letters set out the proposals for a new zebra crossing on Wellington Road at the

north end of Bagatelle Lane along with the consultation on the issues faced by users and residents of

the lane. A copy of the letter can be found in Appendix A.

Hautlieu School informed parents and students via their Parentmail system and JCG and De La Salle

colleges were informed via letter.

The consultation was advertised widely on social media and the local media.

2.4 Event Arrangements The consultation was held at Hautlieu School on Thursday 25 October 2018 between 4:30pm and 7pm.

The technical team encouraged members of the public to complete the questionnaire which was available for each person who attended the consultation. They could record their views on the proposals and add any additional comments which they felt would help the situation.

Students at Hautlieu School completed questionnaires during their form time so that student views could also be understood.

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3. Consultation Material

3.1. Consultation Banners Eight display posters relating to the Bagatelle Consultation were set up in the main foyer of Hautlieu

School. The posters detailed the following:

Aims and achievements to date of the SSSAP

School Travel Plan

Bagatelle Lane Consultation

Character and History of the area

Key Points, facilities and constraints

Safety Issues, including data on pedestrian movements, vehicular speed and volumes

and injury collision information

Road Safety Tool Kit Options

Next Steps

Images of the posters can be found in Appendix B

3.2 Questionnaires The questionnaires were designed to understand the community’s concerns and issues when using

Bagatelle Lane by any mode of travel. It asked for their top 3 concerns about traffic in the lane and at

its junctions and gave space for their ideas to address these concerns. There was a free form comment

section on the reverse of the questionnaire along with a map where they could expand on their

concerns and mark issues on the map.

The questionnaire was also on the gov.je website where it could be filled out and submitted.

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4. Response to the Consultation 4.1. Number of questionnaires returned

There were 24 questionnaires returned during the consultation and a further 21 returned via

the website.

4.2. Analysis of Question 1 Where do you live?

Drop-in Results

Website Survey Results

Bagatelle Lane and its estates 13 54%

Bagatelle Road 0 0%

Wellington Road 4 17%

Elsewhere in St saviour 6 25%

St Helier 1 4%

Another parish 0 0%

No mark 0 0%


Bagatelle Road 1 5%



St Helier 4 19%

Another parish 4 19%

No mark 0 0%

Bagatelle Lane and its

estates54%

Bagatelle Road0%

Wellington Road17%

Elsewhere in St Saviour

25%

St Helier4%

Another Parish

0%

Bagatelle Lane and its estates

38%

Bagatelle Road5%

Wellington Road5%

Elsewhere in St Saviour

14%

St Helier19%

Another Parish19%

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4.3. Analysis of Question 2 How do you travel along Bagatelle Lane?

All modes by each user

Drop-in Responses Website Survey

Car 19

Motorbike 3

Bicycle 6

Walk 19

Other 2

Car 16

Motorbike 0

Bicycle 3

Walk 13

other 1

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Car Motorbike Bicycle Walk Other

How do you travel down Bagatelle Lane?

Consultation results Online Survey Results

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4.4. Analysis of Question 3 Do you feel there is a need to make the lane safer for pedestrians?

Drop-in Questionnaire Responses Online Survey

Yes No No mark Yes No No Mark

23 0 1 19 2 0

96% 0 4% 91% 9% 0

Combined results:

Agree need to make safer

93%

Disagree need to make safer

5%

no mark 2%

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4.5. Analysis of Question 4 What are your main three concerns about traffic in the lane and its junctions?

Complete list in Appendix C

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Main Concerns Raised

Results from On-line Questionnaire Results from Drop-in consultation

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4.6. Analysis of comments Please list your ideas which may help to solve some of the issues

Complete list can be found in Appendix D

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20mphlimit /

reducedspeed limit

one waysystem

continuousfootway

access only green lane raised tablezebra

crossing

virtualfootway

enhancedlighting

trafficcalming

measures

no throughroad / culs

de sac

policing No parking yellow boxjunction onWellington

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Improvevisibility at

exits

leave as is

Main Ideas to Overcome Issues

Results from On-line Questionnaire Results from Drop-in consultation

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5. Hautlieu Student responses

walk26%

cycle3%

bus37%

car16%

car share9%

motorbike9%

other0%

AM Mode of Travel to School

walk38%

cycle3%

bus33%

car13%

carshare5%

motorbike8%

other0%

PM Mode of Travel from School

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yes23%

no55%

hazardous at times22%

Do you think Bagatelle Lane is a safe walking route?

yes12%

no72%

sometimes16%

If Bagatelle Lane was safer would you be more likely to walk / cycle to school

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6. Summary of Responses From the analysis of the returned questionnaires from the drop-in session, there is an

overwhelming opinion (96%) amongst the respondees that there is a need to make the area

safer. The main concerns were:

The bad exits of the lane onto Wellington Road and Bagatelle Road (12No)

Speed of traffic along the lane (10No)

Road is too narrow for the number of cars, 2 way traffic and pedestrians (8No)

Irregular, haphazard and illegal parking (6No)

Lane used as a rat run / short cut (6No)

The main suggestion by the community to overcome these issues was to make Bagatelle Lane

one way (13No). Other suggestions for the lane were:

Providing a continuous footway, either full kerbed or virtual (10No)

Reducing the speed limit with 20mph being quoted (7No)

Making the road access only (7No)

Installing traffic calming measures (6No)

From the online survey 90% of the responses agreed that there was a need to make the area

safer. Their main concerns were:

Too many cars combined with 2 way traffic and pedestrians (9No)

Safety issues and near misses (8No)

Speed of traffic (6No)

No / lack of footways or the width of existing footways (5No)

To overcome these issues, the following suggestions were put forward:

One way system (7No)

Traffic calming measures (7No)

Continuous footway (5No) or virtual footway (3No)

A full transcript of the comments is in Appendix C.

On average, 223 students walk to Haulieu School in the morning, approx. 26%, and 267 walk

from school, 39%. 322 take the morning school bus whilst 226 catch one in the afternoon

which equates to 37% and 33% respectively. Over three-quarters of the students at Hautlieu

School (77%) thought that Bagatelle Lane was either unsafe or hazardous at times when used

as a walking route. Only 17% would definitely change their route to school if Bagatelle Lane

were to be made safer for walking, however, this did not take into account their original origin

or whether they already walked to and from the bus park.

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7. Conclusions Although the number of returned comments was not large, totalling 45, there is a clear need

to make the lane safer for all road users. This was also borne out by the student responses.

The most common concern raised was that the lane is too narrow for the volume of traffic

and the number of pedestrians to both use safely at the same time. This was followed by the

speed of traffic and the exits onto the main roads.

To overcome these concerns, the most common suggestion was to make the lane one way. A

number of responses recognised that this solution on its own could increase traffic speeds so

suggested traffic calming measures could be introduced. Either a kerbed footway or a virtual

footway was the second most suggested idea.

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8. Recommendations It is recommended that the most requested public suggestion, a one way road, is taken forward

to a further community consultation. The road would need to become one way northbound

(towards Wellington Road) because of the poorer visibility at the southern end and a virtual

footway formed on the west side of the lane to improve pedestrian facilities. Due to the

restricted width of the lane this would mean the removal of all on street parking.

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9. Follow-on Consultation

9.1. Outline Following on from the recommendations from the initial consultation and approval from St Saviour’s

Roads Committee, as Highway Authority for Bagatelle Lane, to develop proposals based on the one

way system, plans were drawn up of the changes.

A follow-on consultation was then held so that the community could comment on the proposals.

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10 Consultation Process

10.1. Notification of Event Letters were sent out via Jersey Post to the 474 residents within the local area. The letters described

that the consultation was a follow-on-consultation regarding the Wellington Road and Bagatelle

Lane proposals. It outlined the positive results to the Wellington Road zebra crossing proposals,

which will be installed during the school summer holidays in 2019, and the strong community

support for safety improvements within Bagatelle Lane. It also showed an artist’s impression of the

proposals. A copy of the letter can be found in Appendix E.

The consultation was advertised at Hautlieu School and widely on social media and the local media

(radio and JEP).

10.2. Event Arrangements The consultation was held at Hautlieu School on Thursday 7 March 2019 between the hours of

4:30pm and 6:30pm.

A technical team and members of the St Saviour’s Road Committee were in attendance to answer

queries and talk through the proposals. Questionnaires were available at the end for people to

complete.

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11.1. Consultation Banners Five display banners were arranged within the school foyer for residents to view. The banners

detailed the following:

Introduction and Welcome

Results from the initial consultation

The scheme

Traffic calming

Next Steps

Images of the banners can be found in Appendix F

11.2 Questionnaires The questionnaires were designed to ascertain whether residents felt that the proposals addressed

the issues raised in the first consultation and whether they supported the proposals. There was a

section on whether further traffic calming measures were required and for any additional

comments.

The banners and on-line survey were on gov.je website where the survey could be filled out and

submitted for inclusion.

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12. Responses to the Consultation

12.1. Number of questionnaires and on-line surveys returned Twenty-six questionnaires were completed at the drop-in, six were sent to the Parish Hall and

sixteen were completed on-line. Two responses were sent via email where the responses do not

correlate to the questions on the surveys.

12.2. Analysis of Question 1 Where do you live?

Drop-in Questionnaires only:


Bagatelle Road 5 10%



St Helier 2 4%

Another parish 1 2%

No mark 0


Bagatelle Road 2 6%



St Helier 1 3%

Another parish 0

No mark 0

Bagatelle Lane62%

Bagatelle Road6%

Wellington Road13%

St Saviour16%

St Helier3%

Total of Responses:

Bagatelle Lane53%

Bagatelle Road10%

Wellington Road10%

St Saviour21%

St Helier4%

Other2%

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On-line Survey only:


Bagatelle Road 3 18%



St Helier 1 6%

Another parish 1 6%

No mark

Bagatelle Lane35%

Bagatelle Road18%Wellington

Road6%

St Saviour29%

St Helier6%

Other6%

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12.3. Analysis of Question 2 How do you travel along Bagatelle Lane?

Drop-in Questionnaire On-line Survey

Car 28

Motorbike 1

Bicycle 4

Walk 26

Other 1

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Car Motorcycle Bike Walk Other

Drop-in Questionnaires ON-line Survey

Car 13

Motorbike 2

Bicycle 1

Walk 10

Other 0

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12.4. Analysis of Question 3 Do you feel the proposals address the concerns raised at the initial consultation?


Yes No Not Sure No Mark Yes No Not Sure

19 5 7 1 9 3 4

59% 16% 22% 3% 56% 19% 25%

Combined Results

Drop-in Questionnaire Results

Yes, Addresses concerns

58%

Does not Address concerns

17%

Not sure23%

No Mark2%

Yes Addresses concerns

59%

Does not address

concerns16%

Not sure22%

No Mark3%

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Responses from Bagatelle Lane Residents Only


56%

Does not address

concerns19%

Not sure25%On-line Survey Results

Yes addresses concerns

58%11No.

Does not address

concerns21%4No.

Not sure21%4No.


56%

Does not address concerns

24%

Not sure20%

Combined Results

Drop-in Questionnaire

Results

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Yes addresses concerns

50%3No.

Does not address

concerns33%2No.

Not sure17%1No.

On-line Survey Results

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12.5. Analysis of Question 4 Would additional traffic calming be required?

If Yes, would you prefer traffic calming be in the form of Planters or Raised Tables?*

*Numbers replying exceeded the total number of responses who answered yes to additional

traffic calming

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Yes additional calming required No additional calming required


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Planters Raised tables


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Bagatelle Lane Residents Only

If Yes, would traffic calming be in the form of Planters or Raised Tables?*

*Numbers replying exceeded the total number of responses who answered yes to additional

traffic calming on the on-line survey

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Planters Raised tables


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Additional calming Yes Additional calming No


Additional calming needed No additional calming required

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12.6. Analysis of Question 5 Do you support these proposals?


Yes No No mark Yes No Not sure

19 6 7 9 7 1

59% 19% 22% 53% 41% 6%

Support proposals

57%

Do not support proposals

27%

No mark16%

Support proposals

59%

Do not support

proposals19%

No mark22%

Combined responses

Drop-in Questionnaire

responses

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Bagatelle Lane Responses Only

Support proposals

53%


41%

Not sure6%

On-line survey responses

Support proposals

58%


27%

No mark15%Combined responses

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Support proposals

55%


25%

No mark20%

Support proposals

67%


33%

No mark0%

Drop-in Questionnaire responses

On-line Survey responses

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12.7. Analysis of free form comments.

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Comments raised by Bagatelle Lane Residents Only

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Comments raised by other Residents of St Saviour Only

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Full transcript of comments can be found in Appendix G

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Comments raised from the On-line Survey Only

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13 Summary of Responses From the responses returned, 75% of the people lived within the Bagatelle Lane/Bagatelle

Road/Wellington Road area and would be directly affected by any proposals.

Overall 60% of the respondents felt that the proposal did address the concerns which were raised in

the initial consultation. For residents of Bagatelle Lane this was 56% with 24% stating that it did not

address those concerns.

65% of people thought that additional traffic calming would be required, this increases to 73% for

residents of Bagatelle Lane. The most popular form of traffic calming was raised tables although the

number of responses to what type of calming would be best was greater than those who said

additional calming was needed. 60% of residents who live in Bagatelle Lane who felt additional

traffic calming methods would be needed opted for raised tables.

The main comment to come from the proposals is the removal of on-street parking, with 9 residents

of Bagatelle Lane raising it as a concern and 11 overall. This was followed by making the lane access

only to residents gaining 8 comments. A number of people commented on the road closure at

Chasse Brunet and would like the same arrangement here to make it access only. This option is not

feasible in this location as the road is narrower than Chasse Brunet and does not have suitable areas

where vehicles can turn around at a closure point. Seven comments were against the proposals.

Just over half of the respondees (57%) said that they support the proposals whilst 27% were against

them. The percentage values were within 1percentage point of the combined results from both the

drop-in questionnaire and the on-line survey.

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14. Conclusion The majority of respondents felt that the proposals address the safety issues of the road. Over half

of the respondents (57%) believe that the proposals will benefit the area with only 27% against the

proposal. Of those who live on Bagatelle Lane, 58% are supportive of the proposals. The main

negative is the loss of on-street parking and / or difficulty in accessing the existing parking provision,

particularly for carers.

Making the lane one way and reducing the speed limit to 20mph would address the main concerns

from the first consultation and the clear need that the lane needs to be made safer for all road users.

This is in-line with parts of the Council of Ministers strategic priorities for their term in office, being:

To put children first

To improve Islanders’ wellbeing and mental and physical health

To protect and value our environment

and in line with the STP and St Saviours School Action Plan which aims to encourage students to walk

or use buses which reduces congestion to local schools. Reduced congestion benefits air quality for

students and residents and reduces carbon emissions to the environment.

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15. Recommendations It is recommended that, following the information gathered over the two consultations, the road

becomes one way with a virtual footway to allow safer access to schools within the area by young

people and local residents.

It is recommended that the road is one way northbound as the exiting visibility is better onto

Wellington Road than onto Bagatelle Road. However, consultation is likely to start on how Bagatelle

Road can be improved within the next 12 months. In the longer term, the outcome of this could

improve the southern junction of Bagatelle Lane and if need be the direction reversed in the future.

The proposals include some traffic calming measures:

‘Gateway’ features at southern ends consisting of a different colour and texture road surface

Road narrowing

Kerb buildouts at the junctions with side roads

The responses indicated that additional traffic calming would be required. However the type of

traffic calming preferred was skewed due to spoilt answers to the question (the number of people

who expressed a preference was greater than the number of people who said there was a need of

additional measures). It is therefore recommended that, combined with the reduction in speed limit,

the lane is monitored for a period of time (preferably 1 year) to determine whether there is a need

for addition measures.

Bagatelle Lane is a Parish administered road and the decision to change a road layout either

permanently or otherwise lies with the Parish Roads Committee in the first instance before the

Minister for Infrastructure signs off the proposals. Funding for the proposals is currently budgeted

for 2020 and hence could be installed in the school summer holidays of 2020.

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Appendix A – Invite letter to Initial Consultation

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Appendix B – Copy of Consultation Banners

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Appendix C – Responses to Question 4 What are your 3 main concerns about traffic in the area?

Drop-in Responses:

Top three concerns 1 Top three concerns 2 Top three concerns 3

Speed - 20mph limit Haphazard parking - irregular, width of roads High volume of pedestrians at certain times

Too many cars mixed with school children Used as a shortcut and traffic drives too fast

It is 30mph 2 way Overused as a shortcut

Students walking two abreast Illegal parking Nasty exit from Bagatelle Lane onto Bagatelle Road

Corner of Wellington Road and Bagatelle Lane

No space for 2 way traffic and pedestrians Cars travel too fast No continuous pavement

Not enough space for 2 way traffic and pedestrians

Very unsafe walking along Lane, especially at night

Lane is a rat run Exiting properties is dangerous Pulling out at either end is dangerous

Speeding - speed bumps needed Too many cars - residents only Safety

Cars travel too fast - rat run Difficulty pulling out on Lane Fear for children walking to / from school

No room for cars and pedestrians Cars impatient if stop to avoid pedestrians - should be 20mph

Hard to cross either end as restricted visibility

Got trapped against 10ft granite wall exiting Lane Yellow lines create faster driving - less cars parked causing slow down

Cars pass pedestrians at speed / too close. Cars enter lane on wrong side of road.

Lack of pavements Young people in road - hazard Junctions for cycling visibility

No pavements No traffic calming Poor visibility on to Mont Millais

Used as short cut by non-residents Too much parking No pavements

Safe Crossing from Bagatelle Road Safe crossing at top of Les Varines

Pedestrians walking on both sides of road at same time

Cars / vans travelling too fast in both directions Cars parked right up to corner of Les Ametots making vision to left restricted and forcing you to wrong side of road

Pedestrians Speed - no speed limit Parking

Cars parked on Wellington Road

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Top three concerns 1 Top three concerns 2 Top three concerns 3

Cars meeting students who want to walk in groups

Cars parked on both sides - put yellow lines on one side Poor visibility at Wellington Road junction. Slow down cars travelling downhill past the junction

The worst section is where it meets the junction of Wellington Hill and road leading from Mont Millais to Five Oaks and vice versa

Speed Not giving way when they should Careless driving

Junction at Bagatelle Lane / Wellington Road - cars swing round and speed

Junction with Bagatelle Road - parking makes this tricky, especially at busy times, lack of visibility

Volume of traffic / speed of traffic / residents entering / exiting properties - danger to students

Schools 6.30-9.00/15.00-16.30 solid squeals in both directions, motorbikes, cars - parents dropping off kids, 6th formers trying to park

Cars/motor bikes 24 hours this lane is a rat race road track for both speed and noise

Monday bin day. HGV's trying to get through at any time to do their job. Share to park in the road. Hospital transport and cars to park in the r/s.

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On-line comments:

4. What concerns do you have about traffic along the lane and at its junctions?

Response

Percent

Response

Total

1 Open-Ended Question 100.00% 21

1 Children dying! Pedestrians being hit and killed. Serious accident on the lane with cars. Congestion -

missing an opportunity to make a difference.

Where is the counter argument? who is suggesting that increased traffic down the lane is a good

idea and without it would be a problem? Who is saying a one way system would be problematic?

None of the residents - maybe a parent in St John that drives their child to school and it would add 3

mins to their journey?

2 Too small a road with too much traffic

3 Visibility at both ends, traffic speeds as the road is used as a cut through/rat run, extremely poor

footpath provision, street parking is not required along this road.

4 Vehicles hitting pedestrians when driving along road as there is no pavement.

Speeding vehicles at night and early mornings

5 The children and adults crossing have no visibility

6 Way too much traffic

Hundreds of school children use route every week day

7 This road at school times is very dangerous.

When cars are coming in both directions and queuing to get onto the main roads either side there is

no room for pedestrians. Lots of children walk across here to access the schools. It’s a rat run at

times with speeding motorists. My children walk to and from school and every day it’s a challenge

and on a few occasions they have had near misses

8 Near misses for children in the mornings and after school. Both my children walk to school. One to

JCG and one to Grainville. I worry for their safety every morning.

9 None

10 The road it too narrow - there are many cars which park along the pavement making it worse. At

school time, it is very dangerous for children and any pedestrians due to the narrowness. People

speed along there on a regular basis.

11 Too many using it as a short cut

Too many parking on road

12 Too much traffic that drives too fast

There are hidden driveways, elderly individuals, children and animals walking the lane.

Traffic calming measures should be considered

13 Speed of cars and lack of pavement for pedestrians to feel safe

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4. What concerns do you have about traffic along the lane and at its junctions?

Response

Percent

Response

Total

14 This is an unsafe road, especially the junction between Wellington Rd and Bagatelle Lane. I have

used this road with a pram and now with a toddler. When turning left from Bagatelle Lane into

Wellington Rd, I've had near-misses with cars or vans, including when a mini-bus mounted the

pavement to turn left and clipped the pram.

Even the small pavement there is, is often blocked by cars. Also when turning in from Wellington Rd

to Bagatelle Lane it is not possible to see the traffic coming towards you until you are upon it. As a

parent with a small child, it is anxiety inducing.

15 Junctions are fine if free from illegally parked cars and pedestrians (not using the pavement

provided).

16 The southern junction would be safer if simplified by making it one-way northbound.

The northern junction would be safer if simplified by making it one-way northbound.

17 We have witnessed two collisions whilst walking on the Lane with my children, as well as a number

of near misses involving pedestrians trying to gain access to Mont Millais/Wellington Road. The Lane

cannot accommodate a two way traffic system, as well as pedestrians. There is completely

inadequate allowances for pedestrians and often traffic blocks access for pedestrians to gain access

to Wellington Road. As a result we tend to try and gain access to school via Mont Millais, however

even then the junction is too dangerous with approaching traffic from four different directions. This

route has been further compromised recently by temporary fencing being erected to accommodate

an extension to a private house.

18 The current setup causes confusion. Currently it's confusing who has right of way at the bottom of

the hill.

19 Junctions at both ends of the Lane are dangerous with restricted views of the road ahead due to

large number of pedestrians. Lane is also too narrow for cars to safely turn onto it when another is

exiting.

20 I dislike the way that car drivers tend to ignore pedestrians.

21 lots of parked cars, too much traffic, no pavements

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Appendix D – Answers to Question 5 Please list your ideas which may help to solve some of the issues

Drop-in Responses:

Ideas to solve issues Other comments

Impose 20mph speed limit, signage at beginning of lanes and speed sensors mid-section, one way system to allow continuous pavement

Bagatelle Lane could be access only one way

Only access one way, green lane Hard to cross over with 2 different pavements both sides. Put a pavement on other side of Heathfield wall as buses from JCG come over the pavement.

One way east to west

Make it one way or bollards

Make Bagatelle Lane one way northbound, limit speed in Bagatelle Lane and Wellington Road, instead of lowering pavement at crossing raise height of zebra crossing (speed hump)

Make the lane one way for traffic Other areas in Parish where improvements are required, e.g outside Parish school and Five Oaks area

Madness with traffic using Lane as short cut. Make Bagatelle Lane access to premises only, entry for residents or visitors only.

Residents only access, virtual pavement on east side of road with no posts (texture and colour change), gate in de la Salle pitch to use as walkway, zebra at north end of Lane

Island plan shows Wellington Road and Bagatelle Road as main routes - move traffic there. No one way or posts on virtual walkway as ambulances use lane for care home.

Restrict access to residents. Or make virtual pavement and road one way at certain times.

Box junction at north end onto Wellington Road. Widen north end - move wall on left. Move traffic on to Wellington and Bagatelle Roads.

One way traffic. Marked wide pavement only one side of road. Reduce speed limit. Enhance lighting at night.

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More paths, single direction traffic, no to new school building, traffic calming measures, access to residents only, no entry signs, discourage rat run traffic

2 way cycling with permeable filter somewhere along road. 2 way motorists access - no through motorised traffic (drop bollard for refuse, emergency), gateway / pinch point / entry treatment at both ends

Important walking / cycling route for Education, Highlands, Hautlieu, Sports Centre, Colleges

One way north direction, full length pavement, traffic calming, speed reduction and policing

Pavements. Access only vehicles / calming measures. Pedestrian access. Move Heathfield corner wall back to improve visibility. Footpath Heathfield corner to playing fields so not hit by bus opposite JCG. Pavements on Bagatelle Lane / 20mph / access only / ped access

Put crossing before the Claremont Road junction to all for safe crossing.

Sleeping policemen to slow down traffic. Make one part of Bagatelle Lane one way with a partial barrier

Speed restrictions, one way traffic, no on street parking, pavement. 20mph with traffic calming and signage. One way with pavement running whole length. Further points noted on separate sheet.

Install artificial pavement along south side

Mini roundabout, filter in turn, traffic lights, one way system, narrowing / give way system

Lower speed limit and checks and fine transgressions - even 6am onwards, No school at corner of Bagatelle Road and Lane, On way traffic is used with speed limits

Children need firm training to give way to traffic when needed, bus (mini-bus?) to take children from JCG to Hautlieu

Make the road no through, put planters or retractable bollards half way down. Different colour tarmac and bollards down one side - like West Hill, Making one way would make a race track and alternate planters would make a drivers dream slalom so a no,

15mph? Speed bumps? Nb notes on map

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All the 'easy options' won’t work - lights, crossings, bumps, one way. Residents only - for a time policed heavily. Widening the pavements will only make parking harder. Would you make the pavements wide enough to take an electric wheelchair. Our end is not ...

Move bus from JCG to Hautlieu. Residents only. 15 or 20 speed limit - being policed strongly for several weeks. No new school

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On-line Survey

5. Please add any further comments or suggestions that you have.

Response

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1 Open-Ended Question 14

1 Do something dramatic - make a stance. Make it one way or introduce traffic calming measures.

Make it so awkward non-lane residents can't face using it.

DON'T MISS THE OPPORTUNITY

2 Make it one way, towards Hautlieu, and include a pavement

3 A virtual footpath of simple coloured surfacing and bollards to define the route would cut vehicle

speeds, create a semi-protected pedestrian route and would not be an expensive but extremely

beneficial solution. The States own Heathfield House and therefore an appropriate visibility splay can

be created looking down Mont Millais and a widened footpath here with a crossing point, perhaps

zebra crossing over the Bagetelle exit onto Mont Millais. The footpath along from Bagatelle Lane all

the way down to Victoria College needs widening. Children from JCP, JCG, Victoria Prep and

Victoria College all walk this route when using Heathfield and the pavement is not wide enough for

such a busy, fast (the 30 mph speed limit should be reduced to 20mph for the length of the school

grounds) arterial route into and out of St Helier.

4 About time! How long has this taken to be taken seriously! I have lived in the lane for 25 years and

problems have only grown.

5 Speed bumps or maybe even access only at school times

6 Something needs to be done along this road. I know it wouldn’t be easy but some size of a safe

footpath needs to be put in. Also more street lighting as the dark nights and mornings draw in. Even

speed bumps may help. Ideally it would be one way traffic but I appreciate that would put extra

pressure on already struggling junctions in the surrounding area.

7 I was very concerned by the views of Sadie Le Sueur-Rennard our Connétable. During the

consultation process she it was clear that she wanted to do something about the lane, but seem to

put the responsibility onto others. Is it not a parish road? Is she not responsible? She has the

responsibility to sort it out and make key decisions. Don't pass the buck.

She was also very vocal in respect to parents that chose to send their parents to JCG or VCJ. This is

not a socio-economic argument. If a child gets hit by a car, regardless of their economic statue - it

makes no difference - they have still been hit. She is elected to represent all the people, not make

decisions based on her own opinions.

A real shame, as up to that evening I had respect for her, sadly this is now dwindling.

In regards to a new Prep school at Heathfield, she also said 'rumour has it' - Politicians should not for

opinions based on rumour. Deputy Macon was very good in reminding her that it was his duty to

base his decisions on facts not rumours. Her own agenda and personal opinion has no place as a

parish representative.

If no decision is made regarding Bagatelle Lane - It will be a missed opportunity.

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5. Please add any further comments or suggestions that you have.

Response

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8 Leave the lane as it is

9 Sleeping policemen would reduce the speed.

Making it one way and create a pavement on 1 side will enable cars and pedestrians to use the lane

better together.

10 it is very noticeable when the children are on school holidays as there is little to no traffic and the

cars are driven slower

11 This road needs pavements, and given the sort of traffic (school children) possibly road bumps. The

times I have tried to ring to complain (e.g. when the van clipped the pram) it is inordinately difficult to

find out who to talk to. I have called one number, who gives another, who gives another (sometimes

this has been the 'on duty' Centeniers, who was actually off duty) and so on.

12 Please please please create the road as one way. From Wellington Hill to Bagatelle. Perfect solution

could also incl some temp ramps like Pleasant St. Cost effective solution.

13 one-way traffic northbound a designated walk way (like West Hill) and consider a 20mph speed limit

either full time or just during school 'rush hours', but only if properly policed (which it won't be unless

by camera) I would object to traffic calming humps or retaining two-way traffic and creating bottle-

neck traffic calming

14 I would support a one way traffic system, as long as paving or marked walkway was provided for

pedestrians. This should be coupled with a speed limit and speed bumps as inevitably more space

for drivers will result in an increase in speeding.

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Appendix E – Invite to Second Consultation

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Appendix F – Consultation Banners for Follow-on Consultation

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Appendix G – Further Comments

Drop-in consultation

Make road access only

Junction of Wellington Road / Bagatelle Lane nasty at busy times. Speeding mopeds and cars almost hit child twice. Bagatelle Road also needs ped crossing

Would prefer access only

Still concerned about increase of traffic at Bon Air Lane / Bagatelle Road junction and potential back up of traffic down Wellington Road. Otherwise it's excellent

Bus service would be better option. Bus 20 should be permitted to stop outside old Hautlieu entrance - in line with ped crossing

Also 20mph limit. Where will visitors park? Some are elderly and cannot walk far. Hardstanding should be for visitors. No through road better but insufficient room to turn.

Full agreement with all proposals - speed restriction (20mph), one way, no parking, pavements, traffic calming (raised tables), speed notification at Bagatelle Road end.

Should trial it first before spending all that money. Would prefer access only

Support some. Not keen on one way system. Ped crossing needs to be at least 10 metres away from junction minimum

Junction with Wellington Road needs hatched box. Need to improve traffic flow at Wellington Road / Bon Air junction, and Bon Air / Bagatelle Road as increased traffic flow. One couple have car but no garage - loss of parking needs to be re-considered.

Use other bus stops - Beaulieu, de la Salle. Zebra and bus stop with one way road may end up with traffic jam in Bagatelle Lane - not able to get out of our drive.

Main concern is parking at the bottom of Easton Close if we have to go northbound. Will have no room to turn if cars are parked in house opposite. Needs to be yellow lines on whole road. Complaint re neighbour feeding seagulls

Move proposed zebra further away from junction. Suggest one year trial.

Virtual footpath will block parking - will parish compensate? Agree with reduced speed and one way, which will widen road so no need for pavement. Active policing needed, not remove parking. Box junction at north end required. Changes should not impact me.

Parking to be continued for residents in area, or form a car park for these residents and this family to park. Disappointed at drop-in - officers dismissive. Busy at peak periods, otherwise quiet. Students cause congestion - walking 3 abreast in road. Agree Bagatelle Lane one way. No to yellow lines and banning of parking. No consideration for residents.

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Why have you made me under house arrest? No one can pop in and see me. Yellow line

20 mph speed limit would be better. Difficulties with parking and turning in drive. One way from Wellington Hill to Bagatelle Road would work. What about visitor parking - not helpful. Children have walked in lane without accidents. Waste of money

Children unlikely to stay on footpath. One way encourage speed? Motor bikes need more training. Disabled - need helpers to be able to park.

Reverse flow along Bagatelle Lane. Keep mirrors, reverse flow to stop gridlock Wellington/Bon Air and Bon Air/Bagatelle, ped crossing needed at Les Varines, crossing at Oakfield should be pelican, install dropped kerb for wheelchairs and prams

Move zebra on Wellington Road further down, put gate halfway like Chasse Brunet, speed bumps, speed limits - 20mph max, Access only

20 / 15 mph appropriate. One way system would impact us a lot - do not agree with it. Chicane would help. Children would not keep to ped walkways.

One way system would speed traffic up

Definite NO to chicanes as these are great fun for young (and not so young) drivers to slalom between and would increase risk to pedestrians and cars exiting driveways. Driving towards d’Auvergne from town exemplifies this with cars and motorbikes whizzing from left to right to slalom through.

No chicanes - they encourage a slalom course - too risky with young drivers (who think they are infallible) and pedestrians.

Strongly believe that it should be one way southbound. Northbound traffic would then have two additional left turns, rather than 2 additional right turns, which is easier and safer and make flow smoother

1) one way means speeding in one direction. The mob of students do not keep to the sides but all over! 2) Good idea, thanks [kerb and footway buildouts at WR junction to improve visibility], 3)The mob strings across the road at 3:30-4pm near or on twilight. The mob do not wear hi-vis and you have them walking on the west side of the road in the dark. Put the footpath on the other side of the road and you have street lights on them and (if there is any ??) glare in their eyes which might make them careful but they should be more visible away from the high dark wall. 4) not only one way but residents only. I ???? know how many. Drs, carers, Overdale and patient transport have to call along the road - And Park. We belong to 2 OAP disabled clubs, some meet in our house. They already double-up. Where will they park? 5) It would be nice - and proper - to have the planters and chicanes. True a not ????? according to your taste. 6) It would be nice to have this plan placed correctly north up south down. 7) Going back to the top 3, if you are building out pavements at one junction, you should do the same at the north end

Response from resident living in Bagatelle Lane

Response from resident living elsewhere

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On-line Surveys

Bagatelle Lane residents only

6 residents

Do you have any other comments about the plan?


1 speed bumps, 15mph

Please don't put a traffic calming measure opposite the entrance to Les Ametots as vehicles

manoeuvring around will hit vehicles exiting Les Ametots

2 Something needs to be done.

Make it as awkward as possible for people who use it as a rat run. As a resident safety must come

first over a little inconvenience.

Hopefully the whole road would also be resurfaced. Missed opportunity if not.

3 These proposals are not addressing the real issue of people using this residential lane as a shortcut -

no different to them using chasse brunet previously like this before it has been closed. It is smaller

and narrower than that road so why can’t you close off this lane and leave the residents in peace and

able to park and use the road as they please and within their rights to be able to live peacefully and

access and park by their own properties? The mass of cars using this lane as shortcut is only during

term time and only for the peak times of before and after school yet the proposals would

disadvantage access and on street parking by properties for residents for the whole of their lives

which does not seem fair in any sense. It would be fairer on the people who live in the lane to make it

access only for cars and leave the current setup for driving and parking for Residents to be able to

reasonably access and park at/by their properties. It also would not work making it one way from the

Bagatelle road end as some residents cannot physically access their drives and properties from that

direction which again is an unreasonable and unnecessary restriction and not considering the

residents’ needs ie those people who live there 24-7 and should not be disadvantaged due to other

people who do not live there incorrectly using it as a shortcut before and after school. Please kindly

reconsider your proposals with the main users of the lane in mind ie residents who should be taken

into consideration and given much priority. Many thanks.

4 Once again the people who live in the lane permanently are to be grossly inconvenienced and

disadvantaged for the sake of term time and week day only, twice a day. It is not fair for residents to

suffer when in reality it is people using the lane, who don’t live there, as a shortcut who should be

stopped - make it access only for the residents and the issues would be eradicated without the need

for costly plans which are not popular or Desired by the people who live there all the time. Please do

not implement these proposals as they do not address the people causing the issues ie those people

not living there.

5 Residents only

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Bagatelle Road residents only

3 replies*

*No comment from 1 respondent



1 I do not want to see Bagatelle Lane reduced to just north bound traffic.

2 No I don't think that calming measures work as drivers that come to jersey drive the same way as

they do from where they come from jersey drivers are polite but outsiders are not so maybe when

someone comes from another country they should be made to take a test as they are not use to our

small roads the amount of times they drive in the middle of the road with no concern for the other

driver coming the other way.

A waste of money I used this road all the time and there has not been any problems

Residents from Elsewhere in St Saviour

5 replies



1 I largely support the proposals, however I would additionally propose that with the additional

measures the one-way solution could perhaps be applied on a temporary basis in the mornings and

afternoons when the volumes of pedestrians are at their most. This would limit the levels of

interruption and inconvenience caused to local residents during all other times. Whilst I am not an

expert in this field it would be good to see consideration of this option from those who are.

2 I fully support the propositions for Bagatelle Lane & Wellington Road, however, what about Mont

Millais & Bagatelle Road?

How about proper pedestrian crossings on these roads near JCG & St Saviours Primary?

I would also like you to consider making Claremont Road one-way from Fountain Lane northbound &

reducing the speed limit.

Pedestrian crossings near JCG & St Saviours Primary.

Similar measures applied to Claremont Road as as to what is being proposed for Bagatelle Lane.

3 They address the safety issues, but in so doing raise a factor which is not touched upon: car parking,

where are the cars which park along this road likely to move to? The re-location of cars could cause

safety issues elsewhere, problems with neighbouring areas.

What is proposed is sufficient at this time, speed of cars could be monitored - and raised beds added

in time of required

I support the footpath idea, but am not convinced knock on concerns re parking, traffic at les Varines

(a junction which is busy and not simple already) are being considered fully when evaluating this

proposal. I would need more information on these before ticking ten yes box

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4 It is not clear from the proposals but will the speed limit be reduced to 20mph on Bagatelle Lane ? I

would question the need for bollards to segregate the pedestrian/road area. Different coloured tarmac

would suffice - the road will be 'one way' and it appears that parking will be prohibited - unlike other

areas where similar measures have been introduced on two way roads and the bollards themselves

form traffic calming barriers. Solid bollards are a hazard to cyclists and two wheeled road users and,

in this case, appear unnecessary

Overall support yes, but with the question over the use of bollards. I have little doubt that Bagatelle

Lane will become an unofficial drop off/pick up location for students and measures should be put in

place to discourage this.

5 Agree yes in part. I do not agree that Bagatelle Lane should be one way. A chicane system such as

that at St Martin Green Street St Mary with a white arrow giving priority. I feel that there will be a

worse build up of traffic at the junction of Bon Air Lane and Bagatelle Road. NOBODY lets you out

into the traffic. Traffic lights may be a solution. I totally agree that there should be a dedicated walk

way for pedestrians

Wellington Road Residents

1 reply



1 I understand that the majority of traffic was northbound but the question should be what direction did

the traffic turn when exiting road. I would suspect west and if that is the case it would be of minimal

effect on Wellington road if those cars had to go up to Bon air lane however if the southbound traffic

had to go up to Bon air lane that would slow down the traffic at that junction. Therefore suggest that

traffic in the lane be southbound only.

St Helier residents

1 reply



1 Overall I do support the plans but I would like to more evidence on the direction of the one way route. I

drive along Bagatelle Lane 3 times a week in both directions. I normally travel along Bagatelle Lane in

the evening and during the weekends. I wonder if it would be better to close the lane to north bound

instead of south bound. My concerns are due to top of Wellington Road/Les Varines/Croix Besnard

junction, with the closure of Bagatelle Lane, most people will drive up to this junction as the alternative

route, it is easier/safer to travel from Bagatelle Road onto Wellington road than Wellington Road onto

Bagatelle Road. I also wonder about the impact on the housing development at Hotel de France, this

will increase the number of cars using Bagatelle Lane South bound and not as much North bound.

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Other residents

1 reply

4. Would you like to see additional traffic calming measures?

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Comments: (1)

1 also contact Hautlieu and tell them to get their students to walk along side of road not 6 abreast in

middle of it-need to stop it being used as a rat run by parents dropping at schools-put in some speed

bumps too

Email Responses

I do feel a sledgehammer is being used to crack this nut. Surely speed bumps together with 15mph signs and permanent cameras would solve this and of course a pavement. The residents of Les Ametots feel our problem of being able to see to the left while exiting still hasn’t been addressed.

With reference to your proposals for road changes to Bagatelle Lane. I support any traffic calming measures that encourages the promotion of safe routes to our schools. With the near grid lock situation we are facing at school time, the future has to be to encourage more students to walk or cycle to school. This can only happen if the roads are safe. I support your proposals but would like these plans extended to link up to more extensive safe ways to walk and cycle in the area. The bagatelle area has so many schools, primary and secondary, that I hope you are looking at the whole area and seeing where these safe routes can link together. Les Varines and Fountain Lane are two roads that spring to mind that are difficult to use safely for cyclists or pedestrians. And Bagatelle Lane could even be closed to all traffic other than for access or emergency. Excellent ideas here. Well done, this is the future.

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