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Page 1: Background Pension Fund Dispute Employers’ surplus Members’ reserves The dispute is not about who owns the surplus, But rather about whether or not
Page 2: Background Pension Fund Dispute Employers’ surplus Members’ reserves The dispute is not about who owns the surplus, But rather about whether or not
Page 3: Background Pension Fund Dispute Employers’ surplus Members’ reserves The dispute is not about who owns the surplus, But rather about whether or not

BackgroundBackground

Pension Fund DisputePension Fund Dispute

Employers’ surplus

Employers’ surplus

Members’ reserves

Members’ reserves

The dispute is not about who owns the surplus,

But rather about whether or not it is a surplus

The dispute is not about who owns the surplus,

But rather about whether or not it is a surplus

Page 4: Background Pension Fund Dispute Employers’ surplus Members’ reserves The dispute is not about who owns the surplus, But rather about whether or not

BackgroundBackground

COSATU’sordinary surplus

versusextraordinary surplus

COSATU’sordinary surplus

versusextraordinary surplus

The dispute is not about who owns the surplus,

But rather about whether or not it is a surplus

The dispute is not about who owns the surplus,

But rather about whether or not it is a surplus

Page 5: Background Pension Fund Dispute Employers’ surplus Members’ reserves The dispute is not about who owns the surplus, But rather about whether or not

Let bygones ...

... be bygones!

Let bygones ...

... be bygones!

- R80 to R200 billion -- R80 to R200 billion -

Page 6: Background Pension Fund Dispute Employers’ surplus Members’ reserves The dispute is not about who owns the surplus, But rather about whether or not

Let bygones be bygones!Let bygones be bygones!

- R80 to R200 billion -- R80 to R200 billion -

FSB estimate excludes impact of company contribution

holidays over the past decade.

FSB estimate excludes impact of company contribution

holidays over the past decade.

Page 7: Background Pension Fund Dispute Employers’ surplus Members’ reserves The dispute is not about who owns the surplus, But rather about whether or not

Let bygones …

… be bygones!

Let bygones …

… be bygones!

- R80 to R200 billion -- R80 to R200 billion -

“Future pensions under-funded”

“Future pensions under-funded”

Page 8: Background Pension Fund Dispute Employers’ surplus Members’ reserves The dispute is not about who owns the surplus, But rather about whether or not

* Future pensions under-funded* Future pensions under-funded

Like planting crops …. If the seeds go missing, there’ll be no

crop to harvest ….

Current pension contributions will impact on the economy of our country over the next few

decades ……..

Like planting crops …. If the seeds go missing, there’ll be no

crop to harvest ….

Current pension contributions will impact on the economy of our country over the next few

decades ……..

Page 9: Background Pension Fund Dispute Employers’ surplus Members’ reserves The dispute is not about who owns the surplus, But rather about whether or not

Let bygones …

… be bygones!

Let bygones …

… be bygones!- R80 to R200 billion -- R80 to R200 billion -

Overseas-owned companies are dis-investing us of our

pension investments

Overseas-owned companies are dis-investing us of our

pension investments

Page 10: Background Pension Fund Dispute Employers’ surplus Members’ reserves The dispute is not about who owns the surplus, But rather about whether or not

Let bygones be bygones!Let bygones be bygones!

- R80 to R200 billion -- R80 to R200 billion -

Converting pension reserves into company profits is stripping our country of its savings

Converting pension reserves into company profits is stripping our country of its savings

Page 11: Background Pension Fund Dispute Employers’ surplus Members’ reserves The dispute is not about who owns the surplus, But rather about whether or not

Examples of what has happened over the past 20 years

….

Examples of what has happened over the past 20 years

….

Page 12: Background Pension Fund Dispute Employers’ surplus Members’ reserves The dispute is not about who owns the surplus, But rather about whether or not

Sentrachem Pension FundSentrachem Pension Fund

February 1992

Surplus

R5 million

R650 million

Pension Fund

February 1992

Surplus

R5 million

R650 million

Pension Fund

March 1998

Surplus

R408 million

6 000 Members

transferred

& retrenched

March 1998

Surplus

R408 million

6 000 Members

transferred

& retrenched

Page 13: Background Pension Fund Dispute Employers’ surplus Members’ reserves The dispute is not about who owns the surplus, But rather about whether or not

Sentrachem Pension FundSentrachem Pension FundFebruary 1995

Shortfall

on budgeted

investment

returns of

R57 million

R650 million Fund

February 1995

Shortfall

on budgeted

investment

returns of

R57 million

R650 million Fund

March 1998

Members

transferred

& retrenched

* Surplus

of

R408 million

March 1998

Members

transferred

& retrenched

* Surplus

of

R408 millionThe Bill will

not fix th

is Fund’s practice

The Bill will

not fix th

is Fund’s practice

Page 14: Background Pension Fund Dispute Employers’ surplus Members’ reserves The dispute is not about who owns the surplus, But rather about whether or not

Revlon Pension FundRevlon Pension Fund

Negotiated mass-transfer

---

At the time of the transfer

the Pension Fund

was under-funded by

30%

Negotiated mass-transfer

---

At the time of the transfer

the Pension Fund

was under-funded by

30%

Page 15: Background Pension Fund Dispute Employers’ surplus Members’ reserves The dispute is not about who owns the surplus, But rather about whether or not

Revlon Pension FundRevlon Pension FundAfter the conclusion of the negotiation

but immediately prior to the transfer,

the actuary was instructed to

re-value the Fund using a

9% post-retirement interest rate.

This had the effect of changing

the funding level from being 70%

funded to being 94% funded

Page 16: Background Pension Fund Dispute Employers’ surplus Members’ reserves The dispute is not about who owns the surplus, But rather about whether or not

Revlon Pension FundRevlon Pension FundAfter the conclusion of the negotiation

but immediately prior to the transfer,

the actuary was instructed to

re-value the Fund using a

9% post-retirement interest rate.

This had the effect of changing

the funding level from being 70%

funded to being 94% funded

The Bill will

not fix th

is Fund’s practice

The Bill will

not fix th

is Fund’s practice

Page 17: Background Pension Fund Dispute Employers’ surplus Members’ reserves The dispute is not about who owns the surplus, But rather about whether or not

Revlon Pension FundRevlon Pension Fund

“What effectively has been achieved

by amending this basis has been that

every member in the pension fund at

the time of transfer was given a fair

share of the assets which existed at

that time”

Page 18: Background Pension Fund Dispute Employers’ surplus Members’ reserves The dispute is not about who owns the surplus, But rather about whether or not

Revlon Pension FundRevlon Pension Fund

“What effectively has been achieved

by amending this basis has been that

every member in the pension fund at

the time of transfer was given a fair

share of the assets which existed at

that time”The Bill will

not fix th

is Fund’s practice

The Bill will

not fix th

is Fund’s practice

Page 19: Background Pension Fund Dispute Employers’ surplus Members’ reserves The dispute is not about who owns the surplus, But rather about whether or not

IBM Pension FundIBM Pension Fund

……………………………….

Unanimous decision

by trustees in favour of

granting an inflation-related

increase to pensioners.

Page 20: Background Pension Fund Dispute Employers’ surplus Members’ reserves The dispute is not about who owns the surplus, But rather about whether or not

IBM Pension FundIBM Pension Fund

The Fund actuary confirmed

that provision had been made

for an inflation related increase

…………..

Based on investment returns,

sufficient funds were available

Page 21: Background Pension Fund Dispute Employers’ surplus Members’ reserves The dispute is not about who owns the surplus, But rather about whether or not

IBM Pension FundIBM Pension Fund

“Company overruled

trustees’ decision”

Page 22: Background Pension Fund Dispute Employers’ surplus Members’ reserves The dispute is not about who owns the surplus, But rather about whether or not

IBM Pension FundIBM Pension Fund

“In truth the employer is seeking to get the best deal for itself in the distribution of surplus and is holding out on

its position by refusing to pay a special increase

beyond the normal practice (Two-thirds of CPI)”

“In truth the employer is seeking to get the best deal for itself in the distribution of surplus and is holding out on

its position by refusing to pay a special increase

beyond the normal practice (Two-thirds of CPI)”

The Adjudicator:

Page 23: Background Pension Fund Dispute Employers’ surplus Members’ reserves The dispute is not about who owns the surplus, But rather about whether or not

IBM Pension FundIBM Pension Fund

Actuarialsurplus

Investment

Actuarial

Value

of

Assets

Reserve

“In truth the employer is seeking to get the best deal

for itself in the distribution of surplus and is holding out on

its position by refusing to pay a special increase

beyond the normal practice (Two-thirds

of CPI)”

“In truth the employer is seeking to get the best deal

for itself in the distribution of surplus and is holding out on

its position by refusing to pay a special increase

beyond the normal practice (Two-thirds

of CPI)”

Regulation 15

Murphy surplus

Market

Value of

Assets

Page 24: Background Pension Fund Dispute Employers’ surplus Members’ reserves The dispute is not about who owns the surplus, But rather about whether or not

Murphy’s LawPension Funds Adjudicator,

Professor John Murphy, states:

“Surplus is simply the difference between the assets and the liabilities”

Investment

ActuarialActuarial

ValueValue

of of

AssetsAssets

R100 mR100 m

ActuarialActuarialValueValue

of of AccruedAccruedLiabilityLiabilityR100 mR100 m

Investment Investment reservereserve Market Market

Value of Value of Assets Assets

required required to fund to fund

liabilitiesliabilities

R120 mR120 m

100%100%

fundingfunding

R20 mR20 m

Murphy surplus

Reflects Reflects Common Common

Practice in Practice in SASA

Page 25: Background Pension Fund Dispute Employers’ surplus Members’ reserves The dispute is not about who owns the surplus, But rather about whether or not

Murphy’s Law

“The attempt to separate out the investment

reserve from the surplus is sophistry”

Murphy’s Law

“The attempt to separate out the investment

reserve from the surplus is sophistry”

ActuarialActuarialsurplussurplus

InvestmentInvestment

Actuarial

Value

of

Assets

Actuarial

Value

of

Assets

ReserveReserve

Regulation 15Regulation 15

Market

Value

of

Assets

Market

Value

of

Assets

Reflects Reflects Common Common

Practice in Practice in SASA

“Market Value Surplus”

“Market Value Surplus”

Page 26: Background Pension Fund Dispute Employers’ surplus Members’ reserves The dispute is not about who owns the surplus, But rather about whether or not

Surplus according to Regulation 1515 (2) [d] a comparison of the actuarial value of assets with the accrued liabilities, on the bases contemplated in paragraph (b) (iv) and [c] (ii), showing the resultant surplus or deficiency and, in the case of a deficiency, the percentage ratio of assets to liabilities.

Investment

ActuarialActuarial

ValueValue

of of

AssetsAssets

R100 mR100 m

ActuarialActuarialValueValue

of of AccruedAccruedLiabilityLiabilityR100 mR100 m

Investment Investment reservereserve

Market Market Value of Value of Assets Assets

required required to fund to fund

liabilitiesliabilities

R120 mR120 m

100%100%

fundingfunding

R20 mR20 m

Page 27: Background Pension Fund Dispute Employers’ surplus Members’ reserves The dispute is not about who owns the surplus, But rather about whether or not

Regulation 15

Not … section 15 of the Pension Funds Act …

Regulation 15

Not … section 15 of the Pension Funds Act …

Page 28: Background Pension Fund Dispute Employers’ surplus Members’ reserves The dispute is not about who owns the surplus, But rather about whether or not

Regulation 15Every Pension Fund must report its statutory valuation in terms of this

Regulation… and make good deficiencies in terms of 15 [2] if

they exist.

Regulation 15Every Pension Fund must report its statutory valuation in terms of this

Regulation… and make good deficiencies in terms of 15 [2] if

they exist.

Page 29: Background Pension Fund Dispute Employers’ surplus Members’ reserves The dispute is not about who owns the surplus, But rather about whether or not

“There is no legal definition of a surplus either in the statute, the rules, or the common law.

After a textual analysis of the language of the rule (reserve value) I held that actuarial reserve value equates

to the applicants actuarial liability”

Murphy’s Law of Surplus

Investment

ActuarialActuarial

ValueValue

of of

AssetsAssets

R100 mR100 m

ActuarialActuarialValueValue

of of AccruedAccruedLiabilityLiabilityR100 mR100 m

Investment Investment reservereserve

Market Market Value of Value of Assets Assets

required required to fund to fund

liabilitiesliabilities

R120 mR120 m

R20 mR20 m

100%100%fundingfunding

RegulationRegulation1515

120%120%

funding

funding

Page 30: Background Pension Fund Dispute Employers’ surplus Members’ reserves The dispute is not about who owns the surplus, But rather about whether or not

R100 billion Overseas R100 billion Overseas

Sentrachem

Revlon

IBM

Anglo

Independent

Procter &

Gamble

Britain

USA

France

Germany

Holland

?

Page 31: Background Pension Fund Dispute Employers’ surplus Members’ reserves The dispute is not about who owns the surplus, But rather about whether or not

R100 billion Overseas R100 billion Overseas

Sentrachem

Revlon

IBM

Anglo

Independent

Procter &

Gamble

Britain

USA

France

Germany

Holland

?

The Bill will

not fix th

is practice

The Bill will

not fix th

is practice

Page 32: Background Pension Fund Dispute Employers’ surplus Members’ reserves The dispute is not about who owns the surplus, But rather about whether or not

Nedlac Pension DebateNedlac Pension Debate

*Savings better

in hands of business!

Really?

Page 33: Background Pension Fund Dispute Employers’ surplus Members’ reserves The dispute is not about who owns the surplus, But rather about whether or not

Nedlac Pension DebateNedlac Pension Debate

Savings Members … stays in the Fund

Companies … share dividends

Page 34: Background Pension Fund Dispute Employers’ surplus Members’ reserves The dispute is not about who owns the surplus, But rather about whether or not

Surplus means:Surplus means:

ActuarialActuarialsurplussurplus

InvestmentInvestment

Actuarial

Value

of

Assets

Actuarial

Value

of

Assets

ReserveReserveMarket

Value

of

Assets

Market

Value

of

Assets

ActuarialActuarialsurplussurplus

InvestmentInvestment

Actuarial

Value

of

Assets

Actuarial

Value

of

Assets

ReserveReserve

?Market

Value

Surplus

?Market

Value

Surplus

Regulation15

Surplus

Regulation15

Surplus

In the case oftransfer valuesIn the case of

transfer valuesIn the case of

valuation reportsIn the case of

valuation reports

Page 35: Background Pension Fund Dispute Employers’ surplus Members’ reserves The dispute is not about who owns the surplus, But rather about whether or not

“It is correct that many transfers have taken place with members receiving, as a transfer value, the accrued

liability……..”

Liabilities means Assets!

Investment

Regulation 15 [2] [c] [I] [cc]Regulation 15 [2] [c] [I] [cc]

ActuarialActuarialValueValue

of of AccruedAccruedLiabilityLiabilityR100 mR100 m

Market Market Value of Value of Assets Assets

required to required to fund fund

liabilitiesliabilitiesRegulation 15 [2] Regulation 15 [2]

[b] [ii][b] [ii]

R120 mR120 m

R20 mR20 mInvestment

Regulation 15 [2] [b] [iii]Regulation 15 [2] [b] [iii]

ActuarialActuarial

ValueValue

of of

AssetsAssets

R100 mR100 m

Investment Investment reservereserve

R20 mR20 m

The Debt The money backing the debt

Page 36: Background Pension Fund Dispute Employers’ surplus Members’ reserves The dispute is not about who owns the surplus, But rather about whether or not

“It is correct that many transfers have taken place with members receiving, as a transfer value, the accrued

liability……..”

Liabilities means Assets!

Regulation 15 [2] [c] [I] [cc]Regulation 15 [2] [c] [I] [cc]

ActuarialActuarialValueValue

of of AccruedAccruedLiabilityLiabilityR100 mR100 m

Market Market Value of Value of Assets Assets

required to required to fund fund

liabilitiesliabilitiesRegulation 15 [2] Regulation 15 [2]

[b] [ii][b] [ii]

R120 mR120 m

Investment

Regulation 15 [2] [b] [iii]Regulation 15 [2] [b] [iii]

ActuarialActuarial

ValueValue

of of

AssetsAssets

R100 mR100 m

Investment Investment reservereserve

R20 mR20 m

The Debt The money backing the debt

Page 37: Background Pension Fund Dispute Employers’ surplus Members’ reserves The dispute is not about who owns the surplus, But rather about whether or not

“It is correct that many transfers have taken place with members receiving, as a transfer value, the accrued

liability……..”

Liabilities means Assets!

Regulation 15 [2] [c] [I] [cc]Regulation 15 [2] [c] [I] [cc]

ActuarialActuarialValueValue

of of AccruedAccruedLiabilityLiabilityR100 mR100 m

Market Market Value of Value of Assets Assets

required to required to fund fund

liabilitiesliabilitiesRegulation 15 [2] Regulation 15 [2]

[b] [ii][b] [ii]

R120 mR120 m

Investment

Regulation 15 [2] [b] [iii]Regulation 15 [2] [b] [iii]

ActuarialActuarial

ValueValue

of of

AssetsAssets

R100 mR100 m

Investment Investment reservereserve

R20 mR20 m

The Debt The money backing the debt

Page 38: Background Pension Fund Dispute Employers’ surplus Members’ reserves The dispute is not about who owns the surplus, But rather about whether or not

“It is correct that many transfers have taken place with members receiving, as a transfer value, the accrued

liability……..”

Liabilities means Assets!

Regulation 15 [2] [c] [I] [cc]Regulation 15 [2] [c] [I] [cc]

ActuarialActuarialValueValue

of of AccruedAccruedLiabilityLiabilityR100 mR100 m

Market Market Value of Value of Assets Assets

required to required to fund fund

liabilitiesliabilitiesRegulation 15 [2] Regulation 15 [2]

[b] [ii][b] [ii]

R120 mR120 m

Regulation 15 [2] [b] [iii]Regulation 15 [2] [b] [iii]

ActuarialActuarial

ValueValue

of of

AssetsAssets

R100 mR100 m

The Debt The money backing the debt

Page 39: Background Pension Fund Dispute Employers’ surplus Members’ reserves The dispute is not about who owns the surplus, But rather about whether or not

“It is correct that many transfers have taken place with members receiving, as a transfer value, the accrued

liability……..”

Liabilities means Assets!

Regulation 15 [2] [c] [I] [cc]Regulation 15 [2] [c] [I] [cc]

ActuarialActuarialValueValue

of of AccruedAccruedLiabilityLiabilityR100 mR100 m

Market Market Value of Value of AssetsAssets

Regulation 15 [2] Regulation 15 [2] [b] [ii][b] [ii]

R120 mR120 m

R100 mR100 m

Regulation 15 [2] [b] [iii]Regulation 15 [2] [b] [iii]

ActuarialActuarial

ValueValue

of of

AssetsAssets

R100 mR100 m

The Debt The money backing the debt

Implicitly revalued the assetsImplicitly revalued the assetsImplicitly revalued the assetsImplicitly revalued the assets

Page 40: Background Pension Fund Dispute Employers’ surplus Members’ reserves The dispute is not about who owns the surplus, But rather about whether or not

“With the benefit of hindsight it was

not fair to have given transferring

or retrenched members no share of

this provision against a fall in the

stock market. Having decided this,

it is necessary to legislate in order

to give them any share, because

…..

“With the benefit of hindsight it was

not fair to have given transferring

or retrenched members no share of

this provision against a fall in the

stock market. Having decided this,

it is necessary to legislate in order

to give them any share, because

…..

Memorandum versus The Bill

30%Investment

Reserve

30%Investment

Reserve

Actuarial

Value

of

Assets

R100 million

Actuarial

Value

of

Assets

R100 million

Portionleft

behind

Portionleft

behind

But, the proposed legislation does not fix the past, rather it legitimizes the past

But, the proposed legislation does not fix the past, rather it legitimizes the past

Page 41: Background Pension Fund Dispute Employers’ surplus Members’ reserves The dispute is not about who owns the surplus, But rather about whether or not

“ … secondly, most of the transfers

had occurred more than three years

ago, and, even though members may

now feel that they did not get what

was promised in whatever agreement

was signed between the union and the

employer, they would be unsuccessful

in claiming anything through the

courts because their claim would have

become prescribed….”

“ … secondly, most of the transfers

had occurred more than three years

ago, and, even though members may

now feel that they did not get what

was promised in whatever agreement

was signed between the union and the

employer, they would be unsuccessful

in claiming anything through the

courts because their claim would have

become prescribed….”

Memorandum versus The Bill

30%Investment

Reserve

30%Investment

Reserve

Actuarial

Value

of

Assets

R100 million

Actuarial

Value

of

Assets

R100 million

Portionleft

behind

Portionleft

behind

Page 42: Background Pension Fund Dispute Employers’ surplus Members’ reserves The dispute is not about who owns the surplus, But rather about whether or not

Draft Draft Minimum Minimum

ValueValue

Market Market Value of Value of Assets Assets

required required to fund to fund

liabilitiesliabilities

100%100%

fundingfunding

R100 mR100 m R130 mR130 m R70 mR70 m

ActuarialActuarialValueValue

of of AccruedAccruedLiabilityLiability

Regulation 15 [2] [a]

15 [2] [c] [I] & [ii]

Regulation 15 [2] [a]

15 [2] [c] [I] & [ii] Regulation 15 [2] [b] [Iii]Regulation 15 [2] [b] [Iii]

DraftRegulation 33

DraftRegulation 33

Draft Bill & Supporting RegulationDraft Bill & Supporting Regulation

ExampleExampleNovemberNovember

20002000

Page 43: Background Pension Fund Dispute Employers’ surplus Members’ reserves The dispute is not about who owns the surplus, But rather about whether or not

Draft Draft Minimum Minimum

ValueValue

Market Market Value of Value of Assets Assets

required required to fund to fund

liabilitiesliabilities

100%100%

fundingfunding

R100 mR100 m R130 mR130 m R130 mR130 m

ActuarialActuarialValueValue

of of AccruedAccruedLiabilityLiability

Regulation 15 [2] [a]

15 [2] [c] [I] & [ii]

Regulation 15 [2] [a]

15 [2] [c] [I] & [ii] Regulation 15 [2] [b] [Iii]Regulation 15 [2] [b] [Iii]

DraftRegulation 33

DraftRegulation 33

Draft Bill & Supporting RegulationDraft Bill & Supporting Regulation

COSATU’sCOSATU’s

Page 44: Background Pension Fund Dispute Employers’ surplus Members’ reserves The dispute is not about who owns the surplus, But rather about whether or not

Draft Draft Minimum Minimum

ValueValue

Market Market Value of Value of Assets Assets

required required to fund to fund

liabilitiesliabilities

R100 mR100 m R130 mR130 m R130 mR130 m

ActuarialActuarialValueValue

of of AccruedAccruedLiabilityLiability

Regulation 15 [2] [a]

15 [2] [c] [I] & [ii]

Regulation 15 [2] [a]

15 [2] [c] [I] & [ii] Regulation 15 [2] [b] [Iii]Regulation 15 [2] [b] [Iii]

DraftRegulation 33

DraftRegulation 33

Draft Bill & Supporting RegulationDraft Bill & Supporting Regulation

COSATU’sCOSATU’sThe problem with this proposal

is that if it is considered to be new legislation and isapplied retrospectively, then Business South Africa will

oppose it in court - they have little option but to do so, and the delays will give companies an additional few years to strip out the

so- called surpluses …...

Page 45: Background Pension Fund Dispute Employers’ surplus Members’ reserves The dispute is not about who owns the surplus, But rather about whether or not

Draft Draft Minimum Minimum

ValueValue

Market Market Value of Value of Assets Assets

required required to fund to fund

liabilitiesliabilities

R100 mR100 m R130 mR130 m R130 mR130 m

ActuarialActuarialValueValue

of of AccruedAccruedLiabilityLiability

Regulation 15 [2] [a]

15 [2] [c] [I] & [ii]

Regulation 15 [2] [a]

15 [2] [c] [I] & [ii] Regulation 15 [2] [b] [Iii]Regulation 15 [2] [b] [Iii]

DraftRegulation 33

DraftRegulation 33

Draft Bill & Supporting RegulationDraft Bill & Supporting Regulation

NACTUNACTU

If the transfer of full value of the assets reservedto fund a benefit was negotiated and agreed, then that is

what must be paid…. if not then, then now …..

If the actuary signed a Section 14 transfer certificate statingthat all the same assumptions were used as were used

in the last statutory valuation, and then changed theassumptions relating to the assets, then it’s time to

put it right ….

Page 46: Background Pension Fund Dispute Employers’ surplus Members’ reserves The dispute is not about who owns the surplus, But rather about whether or not

Transfer CertificateTransfer Certificate

In reality, the actuary changed the assumptions relating to the valuation of the assets, changing the valuation bases to some 40%less than what it was, and did not report this in his statement to the FSB.

Now the Bill proposes that if this 40% was used for a company contribution holiday, it should not be paid to members ….

In addition, the Bill will now prevent any member from claiming this lost 40% …..

“The transfer amount in respect of each member …..

…. using the same valuation bases as was used for the most recent actuarial valuation ….”

Page 47: Background Pension Fund Dispute Employers’ surplus Members’ reserves The dispute is not about who owns the surplus, But rather about whether or not

The Bill & Supporting RegulationThe Bill & Supporting Regulation

Bill protects Funds from correcting past inequities …..Bill protects Funds from correcting past inequities …..

“…. If there is not sufficient surplus in the fund to allow the top-up, then the top-up must be proportioned down ……”

“…. If there is not sufficient surplus in the fund to allow the top-up, then the top-up must be proportioned down ……”

Page 48: Background Pension Fund Dispute Employers’ surplus Members’ reserves The dispute is not about who owns the surplus, But rather about whether or not

British Definition“Cash equivalent”

should be read as reference to “transfer value”.

“It is a fundamental requirement, stemming from the legislation, that a cash equivalent should represent the actuarial value of the benefits which would otherwise have been preserved.

Such actuarial value should represent the expected cost within the scheme of providing such benefits and should be assessed having regard to market rates of return on equities, gilts or other assets as appropriate.”

Page 49: Background Pension Fund Dispute Employers’ surplus Members’ reserves The dispute is not about who owns the surplus, But rather about whether or not

Market Market Value of Value of Assets Assets

set aside set aside to fund to fund

liabilitiesliabilities

Market Market Value of Value of Assets Assets

set aside set aside to fund to fund

liabilitiesliabilities

100%100%

fundingfunding

100%100%

fundingfunding

R100 mR100 mR100 mR100 m R130 mR130 mR130 mR130 m R130 mR130 mR130 mR130 m

ActuarialActuarialValueValue

of of AccruedAccruedLiabilityLiability

ActuarialActuarialValueValue

of of AccruedAccruedLiabilityLiability

Regulation 15 [2] [a]

15 [2] [c] [I] & [ii]

Regulation 15 [2] [a]

15 [2] [c] [I] & [ii] Regulation 15 [2] [b] [Iii]Regulation 15 [2] [b] [Iii]

BritishBritishTransferTransfer

ValueValue

Cash Cash equivalentequivalent

BritishBritishTransferTransfer

ValueValue

Cash Cash equivalentequivalent

British Transfer Value British Transfer Value

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“With the benefit of hindsight it was not fair

to have given transferring or retrenched

members no share of this provision against

a fall in the stock market.

Having decided this, it is necessary to

legislate in order to give them any share,

because …..

The Second Amendments Bill

But, it doesn’t fix it,

Rather, it legalizes it …

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Increases to Pensions

The Bill makes provision for actuaries to use The Bill makes provision for actuaries to use inflation as part of the funding mechanisminflation as part of the funding mechanism

This means that companies can save money by This means that companies can save money by under-funding pensions with the full knowledge under-funding pensions with the full knowledge that these pensions will never keep in line with that these pensions will never keep in line with

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What happens if you approve Bill?What happens if you approve Bill?

You legalize the past inequitable actions.You legalize the past inequitable actions.

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What happens if you approve Bill?What happens if you approve Bill?

*You make in impossible for unions to apply to the courts to get back their lost fortunes.

*You make in impossible for unions to apply to the courts to get back their lost fortunes.

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What happens if you approve Bill?What happens if you approve Bill?

*You ensure that overseas investors remain delighted with their South African investments ……………

*You ensure that overseas investors remain delighted with their South African investments ……………

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What happens if you not approve Bill?

What happens if you not approve Bill?

The delays continue until all mass-transfers happened more than seven years ago …….

…… and then all records may be destroyed making it impossible to correct the past inequities ……

…….. !!!

The delays continue until all mass-transfers happened more than seven years ago …….

…… and then all records may be destroyed making it impossible to correct the past inequities ……

…….. !!!

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What happens if you not approve Bill?

What happens if you not approve Bill?

In addition, companies continue taking contribution holidays, thus slowly absorbing members’ reserves into company profits ……….

In addition, companies continue taking contribution holidays, thus slowly absorbing members’ reserves into company profits ……….

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