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Page 1: April 29-30, 2008 Park Plaza Hotel & Towers Boston, Massachusetts · 2017-12-04 · • True not all adult lives require rigor and relevance • 40% of manufacturing require a post-secondary

April 29-30, 2008

Park Plaza Hotel & Towers

Boston, Massachusetts

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Myth or Reality Serious Questions About Rigor & Relevance

David Longanecker President

WICHE

Opening Remarks

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Myth or Reality #1: Courses Don’t Matter; Learning Does

• Of Course

• Seat time ≠

Learning

Texas Experience: Course Title ≠

Course Content

• But

• Adelman’s

Tool Box Revisited

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Odds of Earning a Bachelor’s Degree, Based onLevel of High School Math

0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10

Odds

1992 12th

Graders1982 12th

Graders

Calculus7.52

8.18

Pre-calculus4.91

6.34

Trigonometry3.05

3.76

Algebra 20.89

1.82

Geometry0.24

0.63

Algebra 10.07

0.19

Pre-algebra0.05

0.06

Source: The Toolbox Revisited. 2006. Table 7. Page 33.

Even Odds

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Myth or Reality #1: Courses Don’t Matter; Learning Does

• Of Course

• Seat time ≠

Learning

Texas Experience: Course Title ≠

Course Content

• But

• Adelman’s

Tool Box Revisited

ACT’s Ready for College and Ready for Work: Same or Different?

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ACT: Ready for College = Ready for Workforce (2006)

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Myth or Reality #2: Everyone doesn’t need a rigorous high-school curriculum, so why make everyone take it

• True not all adult lives require rigor and relevance

40% of manufacturing require a post- secondary degree or certificate

60% of all jobs will require a post-secondary degree or certificate

90% of the fastest growing job areas will require a post-secondary education

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Myth or Reality #2: Everyone doesn’t need a rigorous high-school curriculum, so why make everyone take it

• On The Other Hand

• Absent this level of education,

• College success precluded

• Living-wage jobs without college precluded

• Which leaves three options

• Chronic unemployment

• Low skill/Low wage employment

• The NBA

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Myth or Reality #2: Everyone doesn’t need a rigorous high-school curriculum, so why make everyone take it

• And by the way

Why wouldn’t we design our curriculum for what we need?

• Rather than what we don’t need?

If we want to be competitive in the New World, we have some work to do.

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Differences in College Attainment (Associate and Higher) Between Younger and Older Adults—U.S. and OECD Countries, 2005

Source: Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD), Education at a Glance 2007

0

20

40

60

Canada

JapanKoreaN

orwayIrelandBelgiumD

enmark

SpainFrance U

nited States AustraliaFinlandSweden Luxem

bourg IcelandN

etherlandsU

nited KingdomSwitzerlandN

ew Zealand

PolandG

reeceG

ermany

AustriaH

ungary Portugal M

exicoSlovak R

epublicItaly C

zech Republic Turkey

25 to 34

45 to 54

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Percent of Adults with an Associate Degree or Higher by Age Group— U.S. and Leading OECD Countries

53.8

53.2 51.0

40.9

40.6

40.6

39.8

39.7

39.3

39.2

49.5 46.6

35.6

35.1

30.4

33.4

34.8 30.2

24.5

39.9

42.5 38.5

17.6

29.9

21.8

26.9

32.0

21.6 18.5

39.536.4

21.7

10.0

24.0

16.7

21.9

27.3

14.5

15.5

36.9

0

10

20

30

40

50

60

Canada Japan Korea Norway Ireland Belgium Denmark Spain France U.S.

Age 25-34 Age 35-44 Age 45-54 Age 55-64

Source:

OECD, Education at a Glance 2007

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How Can the U.S. Reach International Competitiveness?

Current Degree Production Combined with Population Growth and Migration and Improved Performance on the Student Pipeline Measures

63,127,642

60,790,073

7,347,209

3,270,900

1,265,118

40,605,747

7,045,932

1,255,167

0 25,000,000 50,000,000 75,000,000

Pipeline Performance Is

Cumulative

Degrees Produced 2005-25 with Current Rate of Production

Additional Degrees from Population Growth

Additional Degrees from Net Migration of College-Educated Residents

Reaching Best Performance in High School Graduation Rates by 2025

Reaching Best Performance in College-Going Rates by 2025

Reaching Best Performance in Rates of Degree Production per FTE Student

Total Degrees Produced 2005-25 If All of the Above

Degrees Needed to Meet Best Performance (55%)

Source: 2005 ACS, PUMS

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Myth or Reality #3: Everyone can’t learn at a “rigorous” level, and we want to affirm everyone

•They think they will learn enough to go to college

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ED Trust: A New Core Curriculum For All (2003)

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Myth or Reality #3: Everyone can’t learn at a “rigorous” level, and we want to affirm everyone

•They think they will learn enough to go to college

•Though, we often don’t tell them what that means

•Afterwards, they wish we had

•And if we do, they listen to us

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Myth or Reality #4: We know what we need to know & the last thing we need is more testing

• No we don’t!

•We need to know what courses they are taking

•What they are learning

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Myth or Reality #4: We know what we need to know & the last thing we need is more testing

•Knowing what courses they take

•SSI Data: At the start partner schools there was little data on “what courses students took”.

•Due to architecture and structure of data bases (Administrative, not academic planning)

•Knowing what students learn

•The nexus between courses and competence

• No Need to be more test; just more relevant tests

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Myth or Reality #5: Our students may need rigor, but they won’t take rigor; they’re adolescents, after all

Our own SSI data demonstrates that most students rise to expectations

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NCHEMS: State Scholars Student-level Outcome Data

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Myth or Reality #5: Our students may need rigor, but they won’t take rigor; they’re adolescents, after all

Our own SSI data demonstrates that most students rise to expectations

They will take challenging courses

And, taking a rigorous core

makes a difference

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ACT: Benefits of a High School Core Curriculum (2006)

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Myth or Reality #5: Our students may need rigor, but they won’t take rigor; they’re adolescents, after all

So if most students rise to expectations,

And a rigorous core makes a big difference,

Why would we support a standard curriculum built on less rigorous expectations?

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Our task for the next day

Gain some knowledge –

to move forward on the basis of evidence

Progress an action agenda–

Extending what we are doing

Moving beyond the current arena

Let us begin

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The work reported herein was supported under State Scholars Initiative, PR/Award Number

(V051U050006) as administered by the Office of Vocational and Adult Education, U.S. Department of Education. However, the contents do not necessarily

represent the positions or policies of the Office of Vocational and Adult Education or the U.S.

Department of Education, and you should not assume endorsement by the Federal Government.