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This PPT looks at 1 Corinthians 14 and 1 Timothy 2 to understand the biblical teaching for the role of women in the Christian worship service. Is the ordination of women biblical? What is meant in 1 Corinthians 14 by women keeping silent? Is 1 Timothy 2 really a "difficult" passage, therefore not to be used as a proper understanding of the role of women during the worship service? Of is it sometimes "difficult" for some Christians to accept? Address comments or questions to tlcbrookingspastor@gmail.

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The Role of Women in Ministry: ���

A Brief Overview of ���1 Corinthians 14 ���

and 1 Timothy 2:11-15 Presented by

Pastor David Nelson

October 30, 2009

Irwin Bible Church idea of the progression of the role (value) of women:

Modern Times

New Testament

Old Testament

Pastor Janine Metcalf El Cajon Church of the Nazarene

• To determine the role of women in the ministry

•  Look at passages •  Look at numbers •  Look at gifts • Pray

Pastor Janine Metcalf El Cajon Church of the Nazarene

• authenein “to exercise authority” = “domineering, negative word”

•  It became a negative word about two hundred years later.

• “Look at what Paul is really saying.”

Let’s look at what Paul is really saying!

• Remember these things as we approach 1 Timothy:

• Paul is an apostle of Jesus Christ • He was inspired by the Holy Spirit of

God to write what he wrote. • We dare not change or twist something

in Scripture just because it does not say what we want it to say!

1 Timothy 2 •  8 I desire then that in every place the men

(aner) should pray, lifting holy hands without anger or quarreling;

•  9 likewise also that women (gune) should adorn themselves in respectable apparel, with modesty and self-control, not with braided hair and gold or pearls or costly attire,10 but with what is proper for women who profess godliness–with good works.

•  11 Let a woman learn quietly with all submissiveness.

1 Timothy 2:12

•  I--who is Paul? • “Paul, an apostle of Christ Jesus by the

command of God our Savior and of Christ Jesus our hope.” 1 Timothy 1:1 ESV

• With the authority of the Lord Jesus • With a message from the Lord Jesus

1 Timothy 2:12 • Negative: •  I do not permit a woman (present tense shows

ongoing action) •  permit: epitrepo g5292: to give liberty, allow, let,

permit, suffer •  to teach: didasko g1321 •  or to exercise authority autheneo g3761: to act of

oneself, dominate, to have or exercise dominion over •  over a man (aner)

1 Timothy 2:11-12 • Positive: •  A woman can hear and learn the Word of God •  11 Let a woman learn… –  quietly –  with all submissiveness.

•  12 …Rather, she is to remain quiet.

1 Timothy 2 •  What is the REASON given? •  The women of that congregation are needing to

be educated more? •  That women are more easily deceived? •  No! •  It is an argument from the Order of Creation: –  13 For Adam was formed first, then Eve; –  14 and Adam was not deceived, but the woman was deceived

and became a transgressor. –  15 Yet she will be saved through childbearing–if they continue

in faith and love and holiness, with self-control.

Questions for 1 Corinthians 14

• Where is this taking place? • To what does ‘speaking’ refer? • Who is to keep silent and when?

Key words for 1 Corinthians 14

• sigao (σιγαω) = G4601 “keep silent” with middle voice “to silence oneself”

•  laleo (λαλεω) = G2980 “to speak; to talk (utter words): preach, say, speak, talk, tell, utter”

1 Corinthians 14

• 18 I thank God that I speak in tongues more than all of you. 19 Nevertheless, in church I would rather speak five words with my mind in order to instruct others, than ten thousand words in a tongue.

• 23 If, therefore, the whole church comes together and all speak in tongues, and outsiders or unbelievers enter, will they not say that you are out of your minds?

• 27 If any speak in a tongue, let there be only two or at most three, and each in turn, and let someone interpret. 28 But if there is no one to interpret, let each of them keep silent in church and speak to himself and to God. 29 Let two or three prophets speak, and let the others weigh what is said. 30 If a revelation is made to another sitting there, let the first be silent.

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• 31 For you can all prophesy one by one, so that all may learn and all be encouraged, 32 and the spirits of prophets are subject to prophets. 33 For God is not a God of confusion but of peace.

•  As in all the churches of the saints, 34 the women should keep silent in the churches. For they are not permitted to speak, but should be in submission, as the Law also says. 35 If there is anything they desire to learn, let them ask their husbands at home. For it is shameful for a woman to speak in church. 36 Or was it from you that the word of God came? Or are you the only ones it has reached?

• 37 If anyone thinks that he is a prophet, or spiritual, he should acknowledge that the things I am writing to you are a command of the Lord. 38 If anyone does not recognize this, he is not recognized. 39 So, my brothers, earnestly desire to prophesy, and do not forbid speaking in tongues. 40 But all things should be done decently and in order.

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Who are Women Not to Teach?

•  Men

•  (1 Timothy 2:12; 1 Corintians 14:34-35)

Who Can Women Teach?

•  Women (Titus 2:3-5)

•  Children (2 Timothy 1:5; 3:14-17)

•  Privately (Cf. Pricilla and Aquila in Acts 18:24-28)

What Else Can Women Do?

• “A Closing Challenge to Men and Women” by John Piper pp.57-58

John Piper

“I realize this list is incomplete and reflects my own culture and limitations. But it is worth the risk, I think, to make clear that the vision of manhood and womanhood presented in this book is not meant to hinder ministry but to purify and empower it in a pattern of Biblical obedience.” p.58

Danvers Statement (Ninth Affirmation)

“With half the world’s population outside the reach of indigenous evangelism; with countless other lost people in those societies that have heard the gospel; with the stresses and miseries of sickness, malnutrition, homelessness, illiteracy, ignorance, aging, addiction, crime, incarceration, neuroses, and loneliness, no man or woman who feels a passion from God to make His grace known in word and deed need ever live without a fulfilling ministry for the glory of Christ and the good of this fallen world.”

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