acla 16th national conference
TRANSCRIPT
Workshop C
Developing an
in-house legal
department
Welcome...
This Morning’s Presenters are:
Michael JacksonVice President, Legal & Commercial
Matt SinnamonHead of Legal and Compliance Andrew MurphyHead of Legal – Corporate & Projects
Katrina JohnsonDirector of Legal Affairs and Company Secretary
Rashda RanaGeneral Counsel Asia Pacific
ING Direct – Matt SinnamonHead of Legal and Compliance, Company Secretary
Matt Sinnamon is the Head of Legal and Compliance with ING Bank Australia Limited. ING Bank operates retail and wholesale lending and deposit businesses and, amongst other divisions, ING Direct. Matt is also the company secretary of ING Bank. Matt has held these roles for ING Bank for three years after moving from Perpetual Australia. Prior to this Matt commenced his career with Corrs Chambers Westgarth.
THE LIFECYCLE OF THE LAWYER
DEVELOPING THE BEST IN-HOUSE COUNSEL
THE LIFECYCLE OF THE LAWYER
RecruitRetainRelease
RECRUIT
ScreeningAssumptionsFit
RETAIN
Expectations MotivationsGoals and challengesContinued improvement
RELEASE
Performance managementSecond into the businessMoving on
BT Financial – Andrew MurphyHead of Legal – Corporate & Projects
Andrew has over 10 experience in the wealth management industry having advised a wide range of financial institutions in both private practice and in-house legal roles. His main areas of practice are superannuation, life insurance, funds management and financial services regulation. Relevantly, Andrew is currently in the process of building a new team within the legal function. His new team will advise clients across the different wealth management business units within the group.
How do you build a high performance in-house legal team (from scratch) - The BT Legal experience
Andrew Murphy
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Try something new
• BT legal team historically organised on business lines:
Superannuation;
Funds management;
Life insurance; and
Advice and private banking
• Outdated model due to business expectations and regulatory change.
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Jack of all trades
• New team of non-aligned senior lawyers
• No more silos - cross functional service
• Major initiatives and "pressure points“
• IBM “Legal Resource Centre” model going forward?
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How to find the best people
• Market rates in a post-GFC world
• Selling the ‘in-house’ experience
• Hiring the best "athlete" - entrepreneurial types
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How to keep the new team happy
• Challenging work and growth opportunities (personal and professional)
• Flexible work options (legal and business)
• End to end experience proposition
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The biggest challenges to building a new team
• Headcount pressures (‘fee burner’ not earner)
• Finding the right cultural fit (secondments?)
• Nailing the numbers
• Building team profile
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Bovis Lend Lease – Rashda RanaGeneral Counsel Asia Pacific
Rashda is a former barrister who worked at the Bar in London, in various states in Australia and in the Asia Pacific region. She has practiced for nearly 20 years as an advocate. Rashda is also Adjunct Professor teaching international commercial arbitration at Sydney University Law School. She devised the course and it is the first of its kind in Australia. She is an active member of a number of significant industry associations. She is, inter alia, the Founding Member, Director and the Secretary of the newly formed Society of Construction Law Australia, Fellow and Director of the Chartered Institute of Arbitrators (CIArb) and Fellow of Commercial Law Association of Australia (CLAA).
Developing an In-House Team
ACLA ANNUAL CONFERENCE 2010
Rashda RanaGeneral Counsel Bovis Lend Lease
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An international property group Established in 1958, headquartered in Sydney,
Australia Listed on Australian Stock Exchange In 1999, acquired 110-year old construction
company,Bovis
In over 40 countries across Asia Pacific, the Americas,
United Kingdom, Continental Europe and Middle East
3 core business streams Project management and construction Development Investment Management
30 The Bond, SydneyLend Lease Global Headquarters
Lend Lease Corporation An overview
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Bovis Lend LeaseAn overview
One of the world’s leading project management, design and construction companies
Operates in more than 30 countries and employs over 7,500 people
Works in partnership with clients to maximise the value of their real estate development and construction projects
Uses industry best practice to create high quality, sustainable property assets
The GaugeMelbourne
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The Bovis Lend Lease Australian businessAn overview
Brisbane
Sydney
Canberra
Melbourne Adelaide
Perth
Australia’s largest commercial and community construction company (2008/09)
c1,550 people Diversified mix across key
sectors:- Commercial - Government- Retail - Water
- Healthcare - Multi-Sites- Education
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Recent Project ExperienceAustralia
1. The Gauge, MelbourneCommercial office
2. Melbourne Recital Centre and Melbourne Theatre Company Cultural arts centre
3. North Sydney Railway StationTransport
4. Australian Taxation Office, CanberraCommercial office
5. Knox on Bowman, Jacksons Landing Residential
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1. Top Ryde Shopping Centre, NSWRetail
2. Darling Walk, SydneyCommercial Office
3. Brisbane Supreme CourtGovernment
4. ANZ Centre, MelbourneCommercial Office
5. The new Royal Children’s Hospital, MelbourneHealth/Govt
6. Myer, MelbourneCommercial
7. 420 George Street, SydneyCommercial/Retail
8. Gold Coast University HospitalHealth
Some key projects under construction in Australia
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Legal Team TODAYAustralia
November 2010
General CounselAsia Pacific
Assistant General Counsel
NSW ACT QLD/WA VIC / TAS / SA ASIA
Disputes
11 Lawyers (incl 2 part-time)5 regions with 1-2 senior lawyers dedicated to each region1 senior lawyer fully dedicated to dispute/litigationEmerging areas of specialisation (PPPs, infrastructure, renewables)
Legal Team – a year ago
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- 2 full time- 1 part time- 1 secondee- 1 on paternity leave- 1 consultant (p/t)
Challenges:- recruitment -mix of the team;-Dealing with demands of the business
Opportunities:-review & assess
needs of business;Build a good team;
-add value to business
Look to future needs and growth of business and team:
- Workflow;
- Emerging businesses;
Specialisation?
Multi-jurisdictional Issues
Dealing with issues in different jurisdictions from centralised locale Speed of response and efficiency hampered General resourcing issues Difficulties in building relationships across the seas (internal and
external)
NOW, Lend Lease business restructured across 4 regions: Australia, Asia, Europe and the Middle East and the Americas;
Each region has LL GC as well as GC for the subsidiary businesses More focused provision of services
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Challenges of taking over a team
1. Start afresh2. Review3. Assess4. Implement Morale, confidence and self esteem of team No practical structure to team No regulated work allocation
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Opportunities
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Greater Integration with businessDeeper understanding of business Being proactive in meeting needs of the
business
“Pierce the veil” between legal and commercial
BUT:
Maintain professional independence
Inculcate in team
Privileged position of combination of legal and business knowledgeFast, practical and highly professional adviceValue-adding inputDrive, initiative and leadership
Being in full control of all legal matters (even if outsourced) affecting business
Guide both business and external lawyers
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1. Early involvementAllocate work according to synergies with businessInsist on early involvement
Constantly evolve and improve training programs for legal team and the businessDevelop simple, user-friendly tools and precedents. Review
all precedents regularlyParticipate in project meetings, tender approval meetings
etc.Promote ADR
Developing Workflow
Developing Workflow
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2. Finding the right balance between in-house/external legal work
General principle – match each task with the most efficient resource
Need to maximise knowledge/skills of in-house lawyers
Need to ensure maximum effectiveness – use expert knowledge and resources of law firms
Developing workflow
3. Maximising value from law firms
Drive value-based (not time-based) pricing
Scope tasks accurately and narrowly
Communicate!
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eBay – Katrina JohnsonDirector of Legal Affairs and Company Secretary
Katrina is a key member of the eBay Australia Leadership Team, Katrina has also held roles of Director of Government Relations and Director of Trust and Safety within eBay Australia and New Zealand. Previously named “Australian Young Gun of the Year” at the 2006 Australian Law Awards and regularly profiled in “Who’s Who of Australian Women”, as well as having been awarded the “Ausdoc Prize for Excellence” for being the Dux of the College of Law in NSW, Katrina is also a regular speaker and chair at legal conferences.
Katrina Johnson
Director of Legal Affairs and Company SecretaryeBay Marketplaces
E: [email protected]: +612 8288 0024F: +612 8288 0001
Thales – Michael JacksonVice President, Legal & Commercial
Michael joined Thales Australia as general counsel and company secretary in January 2007. Prior to joining Thales Australia, Michael was the chief operating officer at the Export Finance and Insurance Corporation (EFIC), responsible for the efficient delivery of key corporate services (including legal services) to the Corporation and for supporting the directors as Board Secretary. Michael has also worked in an in-house legal role for a major Australian manufacturing company and in private legal practice.
Michael Jackson, VP Legal & Commercial, Thales
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Measuring the In-House Team
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Why Measure?
Measurement tells you where to focus and where action is needed.
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Service Level Agreements – Objective Measurement
Shared Service Model
how much legal support will each Business Line (BL) buy next year? model highlights the need to engage the business in setting objectives that directly support the business goals
what is the BL’s strategic plan and what initiatives require legal supportdiscussion - historic and current assessment of legal risks and exposures
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Service Level Agreements – Objective Measurement (cont)
Measures
response / turnaround timesmay help set realistic expectationsmay help with the ‘last minute involvement’ issueuse only first iteration
transaction debrief sessions surveying
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Service Level Agreements – Objective Measurement (cont)
Litigators can:count actionselapsed timeoutside firm costsquantity of discoverypleadings filedsuccess meeting resolution target amounts
Transactional lawyers:number of agreementsagreement typedollars involvedelapsed time from start to finish
Others:advice over the phone, by email or in meetings. Unclear sometimes when the assistance began and endedbenchmarking particularly important
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Benchmarking / Targets
Broad Benchmarks
financial measures: use costs ‘by nature’ timesheets:
cost per lawyer-hourcost per legal staff-houreffective utilisation of paralegals
legal costs as percentage of revenue e.g. target 0.25%
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Benchmarking / Targets (cont)
Benchmarks Against Team’s Own Performance
number of matters / files opened and closedhelps match demand to resources (headcount or budget)not a precise measure
hits on legal intranet against other Functional Departments – Finance, Human Resources
Lawyers as % of total headcount – Thales approximately 1 lawyer for every 430 employees
training: record the number of people trained, or number of sessions held by the in-house legal team success managing against a target budget and a stretch budget
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Objectives
Personal Objectives• set department priorities then build individual plans and objectives to
align• areas of greatest concern / loss• care not to distort priorities by reacting to the latest problem or issue
Corporate Priorities• behaviours / values• safety (lost time injuries)
Team Objective• material increase in satisfaction of internal clients measured by
surveys (June and January)• same results for all team members
One-off Objectives• e.g. implementation of the Legal Document Management System
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Legal Survey Questions
Timeliness• How satisfied were you with the timeliness of work the Legal
team performed for you over last 12 months?Communication - written• How satisfied were you that the written advice given to you by
the Legal team was clear and concise? Communication - oral• How satisfied were you with the oral advice given to you by the
Legal team? Business understanding• How satisfied were you with the Lawyer’s understanding of
your business / function? Accessibility• How satisfied were you with the Lawyer’s accessibility?
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Legal Survey Questions (cont)
Diligence• How satisfied were you with the Lawyer’s diligence?
Judgment• How satisfied were you with the Lawyer’s judgment (in
particular the Lawyer’s ability to focus on the issues that related to key transactional or business risks)?
Efficiency• How satisfied were you that the Lawyers you worked with
performed their work in an efficient way? Overall satisfaction• Overall, how satisfied were you with the support provided by
the Legal team over the past 12 months?
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Objectives (cont)
Capture Day-to-Day Work review, draft, negotiate and settle agreements, deeds, etc as required. provide all desirable legal support to assist [Business Line / Function]… in providing legal services, demonstrate the following characteristics:
legal abilitygood judgmentdiligencetransparencygood communicationefficiencycreativityleadershipspecific goal regarding meeting budgets by minimising spend on external legal advisors
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Objectives (cont)
Measure the management of external service providers, particularly lawyers
Think-tank/MentoringDiscuss, solve & present findings on common issues found in-house
Think-tank/MentoringPresentation One
In a maturing in-house environment with limited resources and internal opportunities how do you; - Promote a culture of business development and continued internal relationship growth? - Manage legal resources when a team member is seconded into the business (and what are the benefits to the business and legal team)?
Think-tank/MentoringPresentation Two
How do you measure the legal team’s productivity, success and effectiveness against the businesses objectives and needs?
Think-tank/MentoringPresentation Three
As a General Counsel how do you ensure junior staff members are adequately mentored and supervised and how do you manage senior staff’s desire for promotion and career progression?
Panel Q&A
The In-house Counsel NetworkAs seen on LinkedIn (search for In-house Counsel Network in the groups directory)
The In-house Counsel Network was specifically
developed for the Australian in-house legal industry. The
primary objective is to connect existing
(and prospective) In-house Counsel for
the purpose of sharing information
and innovative solutions relating to
in-house legal practice.
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