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    Seminario Internacional de Cogeneracin 2010

    Eng. Helgo P. H. Ackermann 1 IPRO do Brasil

    Seminario Internacional de Cogeneracin 2010

    13, 14 e 15 de Octubre de 2010

    Tecnolgico de Monterrey, Campus Ciudad de Mxico

    Cogeneracin en Industrias Azucareras

    Helgo Ackermann

    IPROSUCAR Consultoria e Engenharia Ltda IPRO do Brasil

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    Seminario Internacional de Cogeneracin 2010

    Eng. Helgo P. H. Ackermann 2 IPRO do Brasil

    Mass and Energy Balance Production of

    Sugar, Ethanol and Energy

    Comparison of main parameters

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    Seminario Internacional de Cogeneracin 2010

    Eng. Helgo P. H. Ackermann 3 IPRO do Brasil

    Mass and Energy Balance Production of Sugar, Ethanol and Energy

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    Seminario Internacional de Cogeneracin 2010

    Eng. Helgo P. H. Ackermann 4 IPRO do Brasil

    Mass and Energy Balance Production of Sugar, Ethanol and Energy

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    Seminario Internacional de Cogeneracin 2010

    Eng. Helgo P. H. Ackermann 5 IPRO do Brasil

    Mass and Energy Balance Production of Sugar, Ethanol and Energy

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    Seminario Internacional de Cogeneracin 2010

    Eng. Helgo P. H. Ackermann 6 IPRO do Brasil

    Mass and Energy Balance Production of Sugar, Ethanol and Energy

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    Seminario Internacional de Cogeneracin 2010

    Eng. Helgo P. H. Ackermann 7 IPRO do Brasil

    Mass and Energy Balance Production of Sugar, Ethanol and Energy

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    Seminario Internacional de Cogeneracin 2010

    Eng. Helgo P. H. Ackermann 8 IPRO do Brasil

    Mass and Energy Balance Production of Sugar, Ethanol and Energy

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    Seminario Internacional de Cogeneracin 2010

    Eng. Helgo P. H. Ackermann 9 IPRO do Brasil

    Mass and Energy Balance Production of Sugar, Ethanol and Energy

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    Seminario Internacional de Cogeneracin 2010

    Eng. Helgo P. H. Ackermann 10 IPRO do Brasil

    Main Parameters

    Diffuser

    Milling per day t/d 24.000

    Milling per hour t/h 1.000,00

    Days of crop t/h 200

    Sugar on cane % 14,60

    Extraction recovery % 98,00

    Industrial recovery % 88,08

    Sugar and ethanol production

    Mix: Sugar / Ethanol 30:70

    Prod. ethanol hidr. m/d 568,00

    Prod. ethanol anhydr. m/d 1.010,00

    Prod. sugar V.H.P. t/d 963,6

    Process vapour consumption kg/TC 407,7

    Eletrical energy, installed and generation

    Bagasse per hour t/h 277,38

    Vapourr total t/h 560,52

    Vapour for process t/h 407,67

    Vapour for condensation t/h 137,00

    Installed capacity MW 35+35+45

    Eletr. energy back pressure MW 72,71

    Eletr. energy condensation MW 34,91

    Eletr. energy total MW 107,62Eletr. energy consumption MW 25,00

    Eletr. energy sold MW 82,62

    Power potential Kwh/t cane 107,6

    Eletr. energy sold crop MWh/crop 396.576

    Conceptual study for a new

    24.000 tc/d factory - SummaryART split:

    30% sugar / 70% ethanol

    Notes:

    1- Fiber on cane (mean) = 13,50%

    2- Boilers - 65 kgf/cm2 485oC

    3- 5% storage of bagasse for stops andstart up

    Mass and Energy Balance Production of Sugar, Ethanol and Energy

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    Eng. Helgo P. H. Ackermann 11 IPRO do Brasil

    Variation of Parameters

    Diffuser and Milling

    Production Mix

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    Main Parameters

    60 % sugar / 40 % ethanol 40 % sugar / 60 % ethanol

    Diffuser Milling Diffuser Milling

    Total cane t 2.080.000 2.080.000 2.080.000 2.080.000

    Time efficiency % 85 85 85 85

    Days of crop days 245 245 245 245

    Days of milling d 208 208 208 208

    Milling per day t/d 10.000 10.000 10.000 10.000

    Milling per hour t/h 416,67 416,67 416,67 416,67

    Sugar on cane % 15,21 15,21 15,21 15,21

    Sugar and ethanol production

    Mix: Sugar / Ethanol 60:40 60:40 40:60 40:60

    Prod. ethanol anhydr.. m/d 430,4 425,7 610,9 603,2

    m/crop 89.523 88.546 127.067 125.466

    Prod. sugar V.H.P. t/d 869,3 857,8 579,1 572,4

    t/crop 180.814 178.422 120.457 119.059

    Process vapour consumpt. kg/TC 318,6 285,7 303,1 276,0

    Potencial on eletrical energy, installed and generation

    Bagasse per hour t/h 104,26 104,45 104,06 104,45

    Vapour total t/h 207,79 193,39 207,40 193,38

    Vapour for process t/h 132,75 119,04 126,30 115,01

    Vapour for condensation t/h 63,13 62,67 68,50 66,16

    Installed capacity MW 30+20 30+20 30+20 30+20

    Eletr. energy back pres. MW 27,9 25,2 26,8 24,5

    Eletr. energy condens. MW 18,0 17,9 19,5 18,9

    Eletr. energy total MW 45,9 43,0 46,3 43,3

    Eletr. energy consumption MW 10,4 12,5 10,4 12,5Eletr. energy sold MW 35,5 30,5 35,9 30,8

    Power potential Kwh/t cane 110,2 103,3 111,2 104,0

    Eletr. energy sold crop MWh/crop 177.216 152.256 179.213 153.754

    Comparative of Main Parameters

    Conceptual study for a new10.000 tc/d factory:

    Comparison of diffuser milling models

    ART split:

    [60% sugar/40% ethanol] +

    [40% sugar/60% ethanol]

    Notes:

    1- Fiber mean on cane = 11,66%

    2- Boilers - 67 kgf/cm2 520oC

    3- 5% storage of bagasse for

    stops and start up

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    Comparative of Main ParametersMain Parameters

    Diffuser Milling Difference

    Total cane t 2.080.000 2.080.000

    Time efficiency % 85 85

    Days of crop days 245 245Days of milling d 208 208

    Milling per day t/d 10.000 10.000

    Milling per hour t/h 416,67 416,67

    Sugar on cane % 15,21 15,21

    Extraction recovery % 98,0 97,0

    Industrial Recovery % 91,2 90,0 + 1,2

    Spec. ethanol prod. l/t 40,15 39,61 + 0,54

    Sugar and ethanol production

    Mix: Sugar / Ethanol 60:40 60:40

    Prod. ethanol hidr. m/d 401 396 + 5

    m/crop 83.408 82.368 + 1.040

    Prod. Sugar V.H.P. t/d 869,3 857,8 + 11,5

    t/crop 180.814 178.422 + 2.392

    Proc. vapor consumpt. kg/TC 322 289 + 33

    Potencial on eletrical energy, installed and generation

    Bagasse per hour t/h 104,3 104,5 - 0,2

    Vapour total t/h 207,8 193,4 + 14,4

    Vapour for process t/h 140,7 126,7 +14,0

    Vapour for condensation t/h 63,1 62,7 +0,4

    Installed capacity MW 30+20 30+20

    Eletr. energy back pres. MW 27,9 25,1 + 2,3

    Eletr. energy condens. MW 18,0 17,9 + 0,1

    Eletr. energy total MW 45,9 43,0 + 2,9

    Eletr. energy consumption MW 10,4 12,5 - 2,1

    Eletr. energy sold MW 35,5 30,5 + 5,0

    Power potential Kwh/t cane 110,2 103,2 +7,0

    Eletr. energy sold crop MWh/crop 177.216 152.256 + 24.960

    Conceptual Study for a new10.000 tc/d factory:

    Comparison of diffuser milling models

    ART split:

    60% sugar / 40% ethanol

    Notes:

    1- Fiber on cane (mean) = 11,66%

    2- Boilers - 67 kgf/cm2 520oC

    3- 5% storage of bagasse forstops and start up

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    Main Parameters

    Diffuser Milling Difference

    Total cane t 2.080.000 2.080.000

    Time efficiency % 85 85

    Days of crop days 245 245Days of milling d 208 208

    Milling per day t/d 10.000 10.000

    Milling per hour t/h 416,67 416,67

    Sugar on cane % 15,21 15,21

    Extraction recovery % 98,0 97,0

    Industriel Recovery % 91,2 90,0 + 1,2

    Spec. ethanol prod. l/t 60,22 59,42 + 0,8

    Sugar and ethanol production

    Mix: Sugar / Ethanol 40:60 40:60

    Prod. ethanol hidr. m/d 602 594 + 8

    m/crop 125.216 123.552 + 1.664

    Prod. Sugar V.H.P. t/d 579,6 571,9 + 7,7t/crop 120.557 118.959 + 1.598

    Proc. vapour consumpt. kg/TC 307 280 + 27

    Potencial on eletrical energy, installed and generation

    Bagasse per hour t/h 104,1 104,45 - 0,35

    Vapour total t/h 207,4 193,4 + 14,0

    Vapour for process t/h 134,9 123,2 +3,5

    Vapour for condensation t/h 68,5 66,2 +11,7

    Installed capacity MW 30+20 30+20

    Eletr. energy back pres. MW 26,7 24,4 + 2,3

    Eletr. energy condens. MW 19,5 18,9 + 0,6

    Eletr. energy total MW 46,3 43,3 + 3,0

    Eletr. energy cons. MW 10,4 12,5 - 2,1

    Eletr. energy sold MW 35,8 30,8 + 5,0

    Power potential Kwh/t cane 111,0 103,9 +7,1

    Eletr. energy sold crop MWh/crop 178.906 153.708 + 25.198

    Comparative of Main Parameters

    Conceptual Study for a new10.000 tc/d factory:

    Comparison of diffuser milling models

    ART split:

    40% sugar / 60% ethanol

    Notes:

    1- Fiber on cane (mean) = 11,66%

    2- Boilers 67 kgf/cm2 520oC

    3- 5% storage of bagasse forstops and start up

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    Cane sugar split to crystal sugar and ethanol % ART - 30% sugar/70% ethanolSucrose in cane

    1.000,00 t/h cane

    14,60% sucrose content

    0,71% AR (invert sugar)

    16,08 % ART

    146,00 t /h sucrose160,78 t/h ART

    100,0 %sucrose Bagasse losses

    2,0 % 278,20 t/h bagasse

    % sucrose 2,87 t/h sucrose

    % invert 3,13 t/h ART

    Filter losses

    0,00% 0,00 t/h (filter mud)

    % sucrose 0,00 t/h sucrose

    % invert 0,00 t/h ART

    3,7 % Undetermined & other losses

    % sucrose 5,40 t/h sucrose% invert 5,95 t/h ART

    6,16% Distillery losses

    % sucrose 9,00 t/h sucrose

    % invert 10,09 t/h ART

    88,08 %Industrial efficiency

    Sucrose to process

    128,73 t/h sucrose

    141,62 t/h ART

    28,5 %sucrose 59,6%sucrose 11,8%sucrose

    27,3 %ART 60,8%ART 11,9%ART

    Pure Sucrose in bag Sucrose & Invert to Ethanol Sum of losses

    41,67t/h sucrose 87,07t/h sucrose 17,27 t/h sucrose

    43,86t/h ART 97,76t/h ART 19,17 t/h ART

    1000 t pure sucrose per day 1544 m ethanol per day (water free)

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    Variation of Parameters

    Humidity 50 a 52 %

    (influence on generation of electrical power)

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    Comparative of Main ParametersMain Parameters

    60 % sugar / 40 % ethanol 40 % sugar / 60 % ethanol

    Diffuser Milling Diffuser Milling

    Total cane t 2.080.000 2.080.000 2.080.000 2.080.000 2.080.000 2.080.000 2.080.000 2.080.000

    Time efficiency % 85 85 85 85 85 85 85 85

    Days of crop days 245 245 245 245 245 245 245 245

    Days of milling d 208 208 208 208 208 208 208 208

    Milling per day t/d 10.000 10.000 10.000 10.000 10.000 10.000 10.000 10.000

    Milling per hour t/h 416,67 416,67 416,67 416,67 416,67 416,67 416,67 416,67

    Sugar on cane % 15,21 15,21 15,21 15,21 15,21 15,21 15,21 15,21

    Sugar and ethanol production

    Mix: Sugar / Ethanol 60:40 60:40 60:40 60:40 40:60 40:60 40:60 40:60

    Prod. ethanolanhydr.. m/d 430,4 425,7 610,9 603,2

    m/crop 89.523 88.546 127.067 125.466

    Prod. sugar V.H.P. t/d 869,3 857,8 579,1 572,4

    t/crop 180.814 178.422 120.457 119.059

    Proc. vaporconsumpt. kg/TC 318,6 313,7 285,7 292,1 303,1 298,7 276,0 277,5

    Potencial on eletrical energy, installed and generation

    Bagasse humidity % 50,0 52,0 50,0 52,0 50,0 52,0 50,0 52,0

    Bagasse per hour t/h 104,26 113,09 104,45 112,79 104,06 112,94 104,45 113,23

    Vapour total t/h 207,79 217,13 193,39 206,53 207,40 216,81 193,38 206,26

    Vapour for process t/h 132,75 130,69 119,04 121,70 126,30 124,45 115,01 115,61

    Vapour forcondensation t/h 63,13 72,95 62,67 71,65 68,50 78,10 66,16 76,73

    Installed capacity MW 30+20 30+23 30+20 30+23 30+20 30+23 30+20 30+23

    Eletr. energy backpres. MW 27,9 27,8 25,2 26,0 26,8 26,8 24,5 24,9

    Eletr. energy

    condens. MW 18,0 20,8 17,9 20,4 19,5 22,3 18,9 21,9Eletr. energy total MW 45,9 48,6 43,0 46,4 46,3 49,0 43,3 46,8

    Eletr. energy cons. MW 10,4 10.4 12,5 12,5 10,4 10,4 12,5 12,5

    Eletr. energy sold MW 35,5 38,2 30,5 33,9 35,9 38,6 30,8 34,3

    Power potential Kwh/t cane 110,2 116,6 103,3 111,1 111,2 117,6 104,0 112,3

    Eletr. energy soldcrop MWh/crop 177.216 190.694 152.256 169.229 179.213 192.691 153.754 171.226

    Comparison of diffuser milling models

    Humidity of bagasse comparison 50% / 52%

    ART Split:

    [60% sugar/40% ethanol] +[40%sugar/60% ethanol]

    Notes:

    1- Fiber mean on cane = 11,66%

    2- Boilers 67 kgf/cm2 520oC

    3- 5% storage of bagasse for

    stops and start up

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    Variation of Parameters

    Fiber

    (influence on the generation of electric power)

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    Comparative of Main ParametersMain Parameters

    Milling

    Total cane t 2.080.000 2.080.000

    Time efficiency % 85 85

    Days of crop days 245 245Days of milling d 208 208

    Milling per day t/d 10.000 10.000

    Milling per hour t/h 416,67 416,67

    Sugar on cane % 15,21 15,21

    Fiber on cane % 12,17 13,44

    Extraction recovery % 97,0 97,0

    Sugar and ethanol production

    Mix: Sugar / Ethanol 60:40 60:40

    Prod. ethanol hidr. m/d 409,9 409,8

    m/crop 85.259 85.238

    Prod. Sugar V.H.P. t/d 826,8 826,56

    t/crop 171.974 171.924Proc. vapor consumpt. kg/TC 293,9 285,4

    Potencial on eletrical energy, installed and generation

    Bagasse per hour t/h 108,2 118,8

    Vapour total t/h 206,0 228,4

    Vapour for process t/h 122,5 118,9

    Vapour for condensation t/h 70,5 92,9

    Installed capacity MW 30+23 30+23

    Eletr. energy back pres. MW 26,1 26,1

    Eletr. energy condens. MW 20,1 26,5

    Eletr. energy total MW 46,2 52,6

    Eletr. energy cons. MW 12,5 12,5

    Eletr. energy sold MW 33,7 40,1Power potential Kwh/t cane 110,9 126,3

    Eletr. energy sold crop MWh/crop 168.230 200.179

    Conceitual study for a new10.000 tc/d factory:

    Fiber comparison:

    12,17% and 13,44%

    ART split:

    60% sugar / 40% ethanol

    Notes:

    1- Fiber on cane (mean) =12,17% / 13,44%

    2- Boilers 67 kgf/cm2 520oC

    3- 5% storage of bagasse forstops and start up

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    Modern Concepts

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    Destillery with modern concepts Start up September 2010

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    Modern Concepts

    New sugar Factory

    Evaporation station -(Roberts and FallingFilms)

    Drawing in 3D

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    Modern Concepts New Sugar Factory

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    Cogeneration in cane sugar factories some aspects

    Power export proves nowadays as a substantial source of revenue

    and has become possible in the last years in most cane sugarproducing countries.

    Power export potential between 100 125 kWh/t cane up to 200kWh/t cane.

    1800 2000 cane sugar factories can export 156 179 TWh/a or

    20 MW/factory.

    Prices of 50 60 /MWh (Brazil, India) and carbon credits of 5-10 /tCO2 make power export attractive.

    Factory models have been investigated that allow steam on cane

    demands between 26 34 % steam on cane.Plants of this type have been already implemented in Brazil, Indiaand Pakistan.

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    Base data for the process calculations

    Cane crushing rate 10.000 t cane/day

    Effective crop length 180 daysSugar & Fibre content in cane 14%

    Imbibition rate 35 or 44% on cane

    Bagasse moisture 50%

    Sugar recovery extraction 97 or 98%

    Exhaust steam pressure 240 kPa(a) [2,4 bar(a)]

    Evaporators 4 or 5 effect Falling film tubular with multistage distributor

    Boiler steam pressure/temperature 10 900 kPa(a), 535 C [~109 bar(a)]

    Sugar colour < 45 IU in case of the concepts with attached refinery

    350 - 600 IU in case of the raw sugar factory concepts

    Factory powerconsumption for:

    Refined sugar production (1)Raw sugar production (2)

    (1) 25 kWh/t cane for diffuser concepts and 30 kWh/t cane for millextraction concepts

    (2) 20 kWh/t cane for diffuser concepts and 25 kWh/t cane for millextraction concepts

    Overall sugar recovery 89.5 90.5% at 30 % molasses purity

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    Technologies employed

    Diffuser plus dewatering mills or milling tandem (6 mills) Recycling of clarifier underflow in case of the diffuser models

    Defecation in the juice purification Partly direct contact heaters and plate/platular heaters for liquid/liquid

    applications Optimum usage of heating with condensate Tubular Falling Film Evaporators (FFE) Stepwise flashing of condensates by condensate cigars CIP (clean in place) system for heaters and evaporators Minimisation of evaporator condenser loss Batch pans for seed massecuite and refinery products R1, R2 and R3 Continuous pans for the raw house operation Syrup/molasses wash layer system for A sugar Crystal seed technology in the raw house High pressure boilers with 109 bar and 535C

    Extraction/condensing turbo alternators Fully electrified drives (no steam turbines) Reasonable degree of automation

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    Tube/plate heaters versus direct contact heaters

    R

    3205-0

    R

    3105-0

    3020

    9

    3025

    3035

    9

    3040

    3005

    9

    3010

    R

    3305-3

    1. DC heaters are inexpensive and easy to integrate with low space demand2. Allow an approach temperature of 0.5 2 K while tubular or plate heatersrequire 4 8 K

    3. Almost no cleaning or down time4. Constant performance5. High load flexibility with minimum performance change6. Drawback in the juice dilution and 2-3 % o.c. higher steam demand

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    Falling Film Evaporators

    Defecation or sulfitation are bothsuitable

    Sugar hydrolysis and colour formationare similar or lower than inconventional Robert plants

    Five effect plants of Tubular or Plate FFEhave been installed in Brazil (3),

    India (4), Pakistan (1) in totalapprox. 250 300 FFE includingother installations

    The most crucialaspects are the

    juice distributordesign and CIPsystem.

    Five effect FFE evaporation plant

    at Almoiz, Pakistan

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    Results of the diffuser scenarios

    Scenario 1Diffuser (refinedsugar)

    Scenario 2Diffuser (refinedsugar)

    Scenario 3Diffuser (rawsugar)

    Sugar extraction % 98 97 98

    Imbibition rate % o.c. 44 35 44

    Process steam on cane(during crop)

    % 34,2 33,5 30

    Excess bagasse for off-crop operation

    t 182.015 194.778 221.364

    Annual sugar production(pure sucrose)

    t 227.86690,4 % recovery

    225.54389,5 % recovery

    228.33990,6 % recovery

    Power production (crop) MW 34,305 33,38 30,12

    Power production off-crop MW 32,454 34,746 39,49

    Total annual power export MWh 205.525 209.240 220.093

    Specific total power export kWh/tcane

    114 116 122

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    Scenario 4Mills (refinedsugar)

    Scenario 5Mills (refinedsugar)

    Scenario 6Mills (rawsugar)

    Sugar extraction % 98 97 98

    Imbibition rate % o.c. 44 35 44

    Process steam on cane(during crop)

    % 31,7 29,4 26

    Excess bagasse for off-cropoperation

    t 171.420 194.534 221.832

    Annual sugar production(pure sucrose)

    t 226.86090 % recovery

    224.83689,2 % recovery

    227.11790,1 % recovery

    Power production (crop) MW 31,61 29,72 26,33

    Power production off-crop MW 31,05 35,17 40,18

    Total annual power export MWh 180.139 185.855 197.046

    Specific total power export kWh/tcane

    100 103 109

    Results of the mill scenarios

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    Ing. Helgo Ackermann

    IPROSUCAR Consultoria e Engenharia Ltda

    IPRO do Brasil

    Piracicaba, So Paulo, Brasil

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