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device to be installed between the source of external pressure and the vessel rather than directly on the vessel? Reply 1: Yes Que sti on 2 : May i nterve nin g stop va lve s be insta lle d bet wee n the r eli ef de vic e of Qu est ion 1 a nd th e pressure vessel? Repl y 2: In accordance wit h t he p rovi si ons of UG-135(e)(2) and UA-354( b), such s top va lves are permitted subject to the acceptance by the legal jurisdiction as stated in UA-350. Question 3: If a ve ssel has a sour ce of ov erpres sur e int ernal to itself and was pr ote cted aga ins t tha t source by a suitable set and sized relief device installed directly on the vessel, could the vessel be protected against an external source of overpressure by another relief device installed as in Questions 1 and 2? Repl y 3: Ye s, s ubjec t t o t he qual if yi ng condit ions reg ard ing t he st op va lves gi ve n i n Reply 2. Que sti on 4: If a ma nuf act urer f urnish ed to a us er an assembly c ons ist ing o f pres sur e ves sel s, pi pin g, stop valves, and instruments to perform a specific function such as removing moisture from a gas, who is responsible for furnishing the relief devices u nder Questions 1, 2, and 3? Repl y 4: This is a contractual matter th at p robabl y cannot be r esol ve d by r efe ren ce t o Code r ul es. To assist in resolution of this question additional rules which may have some bearing are as follows: (a) U-2(a) which defines certain responsibilities of the user or his designated agent. (b) Footnote 2 to U-2(a) which appears to define designated agent so as to apply the manufacturer of the assembly in Question 4. (c) Footnote 31 to UG-125(a) which states, "Safety devices need not be provided by the vessel manufacturer, but overpressure protection shall be provided prior to placing the vessel in service." In the absence of any specific contractual reference to relief devices, it is our opinion that the rules would intend, under the provisions of Footnote 2 of U-2(a), that the manufacturer of the assembly would be responsible to furnish the relief device installed directly on the vessel under Question 3. Beyond this op inion, it is not believ ed that the Code rules can assist in this contractual matter. I nt e rp re ta ti on: VI II -7 7 -9 0 Su bject : Section VIII, Divisio n 1; Siz e and Vo lu me Limits, U- 1 Dat e I ss ued : Se pt ember 30 , 1977 File: BC76-615 Question 1: U- 1(j) of Sect ion VI II , Divisi on 1 def ines the vo lume and pressure limits for ve sse ls which may be mark ed with a "UM" symbol. U-1(j)(2) defines 1-1/2 cu ft in volume and 600 psi desig n pressure as one of these limits. How is the 1-1/2 cu ft volume determined for the shell sid e of a shell and tube heat exchanger? Reply 1: Wh ere the tu be s ide is an ind epende nt p ress ur e ch ambe r as descr ibed i n UG-19(a), the volume of the shell side of a shell and tube heat exchanger is the total shell volume minus the volume taken up by the tube side. Where the shell ca n be thoroughly vented, filled, and drained, measuring a suitable liquid drained from a filled shell is a method frequently used to prove the volume of an independent chamber.

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device to be installed between the source of external pressure and the vessel rather than directly on the

vessel?

Reply 1: Yes

Question 2: May intervening stop valves be installed between the relief device of Question 1 and the

pressure vessel?

Reply 2: In accordance with the provisions of UG-135(e)(2) and UA-354(b), such stop valves are

permitted subject to the acceptance by the legal jurisdiction as stated in UA-350.

Question 3: If a vessel has a source of overpressure internal to itself and was protected against that

source by a suitable set and sized relief device installed directly on the vessel, could the vessel be

protected against an external source of overpressure by another relief device installed as in Questions 1

and 2?

Reply 3: Yes, subject to the qualifying conditions regarding the stop valves given in Reply 2.

Question 4: If a manufacturer furnished to a user an assembly consisting of pressure vessels, piping,

stop valves, and instruments to perform a specific function such as removing moisture from a gas, who is

responsible for furnishing the relief devices under Questions 1, 2, and 3?

Reply 4: This is a contractual matter that probably cannot be resolved by reference to Code rules.

To assist in resolution of this question additional rules which may have some bearing are as follows:

(a) U-2(a) which defines certain responsibilities of the user or his designated agent.

(b) Footnote 2 to U-2(a) which appears to define designated agent so as to apply the

manufacturer of the assembly in Question 4.

(c) Footnote 31 to UG-125(a) which states, "Safety devices need not be provided by the vessel

manufacturer, but overpressure protection shall be provided prior to placing the vessel in service."

In the absence of any specific contractual reference to relief devices, it is our opinion

that the rules would intend, under the provisions of Footnote 2 of U-2(a), that the manufacturer of theassembly would be responsible to furnish the relief device installed directly on the vessel under Question

3. Beyond this opinion, it is not believed that the Code rules can assist in this contractual matter.

Interpretation: VIII-77-90

Subject: Section VIII, Division 1; Size and Volume Limits, U-1

Date Issued: September 30, 1977

File: BC76-615

Question 1: U-1(j) of Section VIII, Division 1 defines the volume and pressure limits for vessels

which may be marked with a "UM" symbol. U-1(j)(2) defines 1-1/2 cu ft in volume and 600 psi design

pressure as one of these limits. How is the 1-1/2 cu ft volume determined for the shell side of a shell andtube heat exchanger?

Reply 1: Where the tube side is an independent pressure chamber as described in UG-19(a), the

volume of the shell side of a shell and tube heat exchanger is the total shell volume minus the volume

taken up by the tube side.

Where the shell can be thoroughly vented, filled, and drained, measuring a suitable liquid

drained from a filled shell is a method frequently used to prove the volume of an independent chamber.