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    3D home theater for under a grandby infectuson October 17, 2011

    Intro: 3D home theater for under a grandHello Friends,

    This is my first post on instructables and I'm excited to share with you, my adventures in building a pretty good quality stereoscopic projection system.

    It all really started when I saw James Cameron's Avatar in 3D at the theater, but I originally had my first encounter with 3D when seeing an IMAX 3D film, "Space Stat3D" at a science center, I was amazed by the feeling of immersion and feeling almost as if I was actually there. Avatar was another one of those amazing immersive

    experiences, I made the mistake of seeing it at night and then going straight to bed after I got home from the theater. When I woke up the next day I felt like I had thiscrazy dream, while my mind was still fogged as it always is for about the first 10 minutes after I wake up, I thought it was a lucid dream, but then I remembered that it wa movie.

    I couldn't stop thinking about this movie at least once a day for the next month, I even heard stories of some people having depression called "the avatar blues" becauthis movie tricked their subconscious into believing this was a fully real-life place, but they realized that it was not real and they could never go to Pandora. Luckily I difeel depression, but I really wanted to be able to have something like this at home, mainly because it's just so frickin' awesome!

    So the google searches began and I settled on using 2 DLP projectors with circular polarization filters, I wanted to be able to use the industry standard realD glassesbecause the theaters let you keep them. A more broad term for my setup is passive-polarized stereoscopic projection. One of the biggest problems with this setup wakeep it cheap because I'm a nearly broke college student. Many people have been led to believe that 3D is "new-fangled" or "very expensive", it's not new, there arestereoscopic photos from the civil war! And we have had movies projected to large audiences using polarized systems since the 1950's! Finally I'm going to prove thatdoesn't have to be expensive and the quality of the overall experience rivals that of any super-duper fancy 3D TV at best buy or the home theater store. or any singleprojector active glasses solution for that matter.

    Here is the big reason that pretty much all current 3D TV totally suck: They run a frame rate that does not match the source content in most cases, movies run at 23.9fps (James Cameron and a few others are pushing for 48 fps and I love them for it, Avatar 2&3 should be 48fps per eye) and your 3D tv runs at 120 hz, so what does mean? What it means is that the TV really wants 30fps or 60fps content so it can alternate the left and right images sequentially, "LRLRLRLR....." and this gives you 6

    fps PER EYE. Now, if you can see a CRT monitor flicker when set at 60HZ (I can) you know that it is awful! Your LCD runs at 60 HZ, so why no flicker you ask? Becait UPDATES the image every 1/60th of a second WITHOUT going dark in between frames. With an active 3D system each eye sees black half the time, what a rip-offYou pay thousands for a 3D tv and it will be black for half of the movie (I must acknowledge that film based projection in the theater has flicker and 1/3rd of your moviejust black, this flicker also bugs me and is why I'm not really into going to a non-digital theater). Alright, back to how we get 23.976hz converted to 60hz and for all inteand purposes lets call it 24hz, we use a dirty secret called 2:3 pullup and this essentially shows some frames for 2 of the 60 frames and for 3 of the 60 frames, 3D disis all about good timing and alignment, 2:3 pull up introduces a lot of judder in the motion and the problem is compounded in 3D different TVs handle it slightly differenbut they all share a common problem: the timing of frames is mis-matched between your left and right eyes.

    Now before you yell at me saying that most theaters use 1 projector and have alternating frames, listen here. Theaters with alternating systems such as RealD, RealDXL, Masterimage3D or Dolby 3D don't have these issues because they run at 144Hz which is exactly 6 times 24. They use a triple flash system and what this means that for one stereo pair (1 frame of left and 1 frame of right) it alternates the left and right eyes 3 times each (6 flashes total) and then moves the next frame, etc... Usinthis technique, perfectly equal timing is maintained for both eyes and for every f rame. TV manufacturers need to figure this out and they are idiots for not implementinthe ability to do 144 HZ or better! The least they could do is to kill 2:3 pullup, there are many artifacts of the analog TV and film days and this is one of those and I HAIT! I will never buy a 3D TV until they figure this crap out.

    IMAX uses dual projectors for their systems and I love them for it! A newer system is RealD XLS which takes advantage of the new 4k digital cinema projectors and ua special over-under lens to essentially "emulate" dual projectors, just think about it, 4k imaging device and dual 2k pictures, lets do over-under! I can tell you that boththese systems rock!

    Alright on to the project!

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    Step 1:3D home theater for under a grand - Getting StartedTo start off, here are the main things I had to buy:

    -3 infocus LP-650 projectors DLP 1024x768, one was used for parts, you need 2 working projectors (must be DLP or other non-polarized projector) ebay.comabout $total after getting el-cheapo chinese replacement lamps. brightness is key and matching the color and brightness between projectors is key, the polarizers will cut abohalf of your light, these projectors are rated at 2500 lumens and ended up being perfect for my 85" screen I bet I could go up to 120", but really need more resolution fothat. If you don't count the fact that these are 4:3 and treat them like 16:9 projectors you are looking at a native resolution around 576p, it's not terrible and for the mospart is the only weak link in the system. If you can, get a projector with LENS SHIFT, I cannot stress this enough, this wil l save you hours of headache in aligning yourimages, the LP-650 does not have this feature and it makes hours of extra work to align the images perfectly.

    -set of circular polarization filters polarization.com$25

    -something to build a mounting rig or chassis out of, in my case, steel. also, materials for a screen (4 2x4's, sheet of masonite and paint). Lowes about $100

    -stereoscopic player, free demo limited to 5 minutes of playback at a time 3dtv.at39 EURO around $60 (I bought it, this is the bet program and when paired with AnyDHDit will play 3D blu-rays without having to rip or convert it first) this program plays everything I throw at it and can use directshow codecs to play virtually ANY format

    -FINALLY a computer with a mid to high power quad core CPU or the fastest dual core and 2 matching video outputs on the same graphics card, in my case 2 DVI pobut VGA will work pretty good as well. My CPU is an AMD phenom II x4 3GHz and GPU is an nVidia 7950 GT. If you have to buy a computer you are going to have topay over a grand for the project overall, but most of us already have decent computers, I hope.

    First, you need a way to mount your projectors and it must be VERY SOLID, any misalignment and I mean ANY, like more than a half an inch at the screen will causeheadaches after a very short amount of use.I'm building my mount out of steel as I have access to a welder and other metal working tools. See photos.

    Take into consideration that you need to be able to move at least one projector in any axis and that you need to hold a polarizer filter out in front of the lens. A word ofcaution, keep your polarizer as far in front of the lens as possible to maximize the surface area that is used, it WILL heat up and melt if you put it too close, trust me.

    I cannot stress this enough, that you must maintain perfect image alignment, so take your time in building a good mount that you can easily adjust.

    A note on projectors: There are many types of projectors out there, DLP, 3 chip DLP, LCD, 3LCD, SXRD, D-ILA, LCOS, CRT and what ever type you choose, make sthe light output is not polarized (DLP) or you will regret it. You may be able to fashion a depolarizer out of at least 3 layers of quarter-wave retarder film, also frompolarization.com, but you many get some slight color shift.

    A note on polarization: In my setup I initially used circular polarization like RealD, but switched to linear like IMAX (more on this later). The benefit of circular polarizersthat they are essentialy a linear filter and a quarter-wave retarder laminated together, which means you have a 2 in 1 filter. So you are ready for IMAX or RealD in thesame system, all you need to do is flip the filters.

    Next, construct your screen, you could also paint directly on a wall if this is going to be more permanent installation. I will detail painting in the next step. You can also a silver screen, but a good one is going to cost at least $500!

    http://www.slysoft.com/en/purchase.htmlhttp://www.slysoft.com/en/purchase.htmlhttp://3dtv.at/Index_en.aspxhttp://www.polarization.com/polarshop/product_info.php?cPath=22&products_id=34&osCsid=2f7d5401c4a698b096828775a149a347http://ebay.com/
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    Step 2:3D home theater for under a grand - The ScreenThe screen is a very important part and must be constructed and painted with the utmost of care.

    Basically you need a smooth surface to start with.

    You need to paint it flat black and all painting must be sprayed on or you will get lines and odd textures, I have not experimented with white, but I may some day or matry different mixes of white and black or white and silver.

    After the black is dry you need to paint it silver, it is very hard to get a good texture without drips or blotches, you cannot rush this! You will need to do many thin coatsget it to look right. I had to do around 7 coats to get my screen done and it turned out as good as any commercial screen.

    To make this paint sprayable I needed to mix it with about 1/3 mineral spirits, I wouldn't want to try "rattle can" variety spray paint, the spray pattern is just not consisteenough, I bought a pneumatic sprayer just for this project.

    It is important to have a clean air source, a clean sprayer, clean paint (filter into the sprayer to get rid of any chunks) and no wind.

    One thing I would like to try is a curved or parabolic screen design to help widen the optimal viewing angles, silver screens by their very nature have a narrow viewingangle before you start to loose a lot of light.

    While I was waiting for the paint to dry I went ahead and started throwing some 2d movies on it out in the shop just for fun.

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    Step 3:3D home theater for under a grand - The Final SetupAlright, now we need to bring it all together.

    You need to connect your projectors to your computer and set them up as side-by-side multi monitors once you are getting an image on both projectors you need to athem, to do this use stereoplayer and an alignment pattern.

    Install stereoscopic player and run it. To set it for dual-output, navigate to View>viewing method>Dual Screen Output.

    Then select your displays in View>Full Screen Monitor (left view) and View>Full Screen Monitor (right view) for now it doesn't matter if your left and right is mixed up.

    Now load up your left and right test patterns. FIle>Open Left and Right FIle... You can open still images in stereoplayer.

    Go into full screen. press alt+enter on your keyboard, get your glasses and see if the left and right images are separated from each other and going to the appropriateeyes. If the views are swapped go out of full screen mode and change the setting View>Full Screen Monitor and then try again.

    Next, without the glasses you need to make the alignment pattern match up on both projectors as close as possible, now if for some reason you cannot get the imagesline up and you must make a sacrifice, do it on horizontal alignment, as some horizontal misalignment will not cause headaches, it wi ll slightly mess up the depth of thimage.

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    Alright once you have the hardware up and running t ry opening a good 3D still image one can be found here:http://mtbs3d.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10002/Crysis_%230083.jpgthis image is reversed for cross-eyed viewing so the left is on the right and vice verse.

    If you have a 3D blu-ray disc laying around you can watch it too. you need AnyDVD HD it is a driver that decrypts blu-rays on the fly and is pretty awesome. you willnavigate to your BD drive letter and :\BDMV\STREAM\SSIF\sometimes the ssif files will be split up. You can open these with stereoplayer.

    http://mtbs3d.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10002/Crysis_%230083.jpg
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    imprunesays: Jun 13, 2012. 4:57 PM REPGood job! did something similar in a CAVE environment with rear projection screens

    if doing a 2lcd projector setup....get hold of some quarter wave plate retarders (circular polarisers) if the image at the projector lens is small enough youmight be able to use a set of lenses from a pair of real d glasses. Better yet is to buy a right hand and left hand quarter wave plate on its own. These filtersdo not have the linear fil ters attached and should look like a single thickness of plastic/glass. sandwiched ones will be 2 or more glued together. internalreflection is going to kill your light level with these types of filters whereas the single quarter wave plates will be better for this. we used 2 single wave plateon 2 lcd projectors and there was no noticeable colour shift. the only dif ference was a loss in light level that actually wasnt bad and was to be expected.

    Also, iZ3D and a quad buffered graphics card are your friends if you want to try 3D gaming with this setup (Crysis in 3D on a 7 metre tall picture was epic!

    tinker234says: Apr 5, 2012. 12:10 PM REPis there a way to get a 3d apernance all around

    infectussays: Apr 5, 2012. 1:21 PM REPnot sure exactly what you mean, but if you are talking wrap-around or ultra-wide. There are ways to stitch multiple projectors together to increase theimage area, there are also special fish-eye and anamorphic lenses you can use.

    Does this help?

    tinker234says: Apr 9, 2012. 7:43 PM REPyes i ment aimage you can see on all sides that appers to be a hologram

    rsloanesays: Dec 13, 2011. 9:49 AM REPWow, that is a slick setup. So why can you only use DLP, I guess I'm not sure I understand what the significance of having non-polarized light output if youare using a polarizing filter on the projector. Obviously my familiarity with polarization is not exactly comprehensive, especially in this application, but whathappens if you DO use lcd or 3lcd projectors with polarized light output. would using a silver screen designed for polarized projection remedy this issue? Ihave seen similar setups to yours done with lcd type projectors with the polarizing film and the whole nine yards. Is there something I am missing. Thanksfor the info.

    infectussays: Dec 14, 2011. 10:42 PM REPGreat question.

    The reason LCD is not preferred is because it's light output is already polarized. You may be thinking that this could be advantageous, but for the mostpart it is a hindrance. google StereoBright for more info, but in short: this method only works with LCD and it preserves more light output. the problem isthat it ghosts pretty bad and is highly proprietary, 3dtv.at StereoPlayer is the only program i know of that can drive it.

    An LCD projector normally has blue and red linearly polarized in one direction and green is the opposite (rotated 90 degrees). unless you rotate yourpolarizers exactly between the two, you will get either green or magenta color shift. It is possible to use a stack of 3 quarter wave retarder filters to killmost of the polarization, but these may still need a lot of tweaking to eliminate color shift. You will get the same problem with circular polarizers as well,simply because they are just a quarter wave and linear filter sandwiched together and the quarter wave side must face the screen (thats why circularfilters are the only filters you'll ever need, they can work either with IMAX or RealD by flipping them).

    The silver screen is a very simple device and will do nothing more than preserve and reflect whatever polarization you throw at. Here's a fun little story,went to an IMAX theater to see avatar and was in my seat early during the typical theater informational and advertising slideshow that was being donefrom a small LCD pre-show projector, because this was an IMAX 3D theater the screen had to be silver, so I threw on my glasses and saw the pre-shoin magenta for one eye and green in the other.

    LCD's are not impossible to use, but DLP gives you maximum flexibility. If you are planning on building a 3D home theater and have not yet purchasedprojectors I would strongly recommend going with DLP and double the brightness of what you would normally buy for a 2D setup. also, make sure thatyour projectors are matched in every way possible, even down to the date of manufacture, color and especially brightness disparities will be very ir ritatito the eyes.

    Hope this helps.

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