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JK-MoneyMember(Today, 09:29 AM)

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#51was one the news once never heard of again

http://www.collective-evolution.com/...re-for-cancer/

RichyMtlJunior Member(Today, 09:34 AM)

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#52My partner believes that they found the cure for aids but they make so much money with all the pills HIV+ people are takingthat they prefer to keep it that way... I just nod and walk away...

ApatheticDolphinJunior Member(Today, 09:36 AM)

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#53Yeah, I have a friend who justifies smoking by saying that there's a cure for lung cancer (Hash Oil) but it's not legal. I knowit's got some benefits... but still.

UrbanRatsMember(Today, 10:13 AM)

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#54

Originally Posted by CreepingFear

My grandfather thought the same. He didn't trust doctors and didn't go see one when he was in pain. He died ofcolon cancer.

Lol, reminds me of my grandma, going something like "you go in healthy, and you come out with all sorts of problems!".

SaintguineMember(Today, 10:15 AM)

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#55There's probably experimental treatments that exist but they're too expensive to be made profitable as general medicine forthe general population i.e aspirin, paracetamol etc. and are instead specialized medicine which is incredibly expensive and/orexperimental active anti-cancer agents that are just sat on due to lack of funding in research and development.

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Also there's no "cure for cancer". Cancer is a large category of diseases.

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EusisMember(Today, 10:20 AM)

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#56The closest thing to a cure for cancer I can imagine is figuring out how to reconstruct the whole body relatively easily and atany point in development, and that's basically unlocking immortality at the same time anyway. So yeah, I don't see that assomething the government's hiding away.

TheSinkingKnightMember(Today, 10:45 AM)

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#57If such a cure existed, then billionaires would probably never die from cancer, and yet they do.

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#58

Originally Posted by TheSinkingKnight

If such a cure existed, then billionaires would probably never die from cancer, and yet they do.

No they don't, have any proof of that? Of course they fake their own deaths to pull the strings from the shadows ;)

1cmanny1Member(Today, 10:51 AM)

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#59Some of you are a bit OTT. Tons of people believe these silly conspiracy theories, you can either cheerfully debate them orjust nod politely. My entire family believes lots of nonsense, I don't hate them, I just find it funny.

It isn't like believing the cure for cancer is hidden by the government will hurt anyone. Save your anger for people not acceptingblood transfusions, or using pseudoscience medicine over seeing a medical professional etc.

RandamMember(Today, 10:53 AM)

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#60What would be the benefit for them to keep it a secret??

Making it available for everyone would make them soooo much more money.

Screaming MeatMember(Today, 10:56 AM)

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#61

Originally Posted by Kaako

One must ask, is there a possibility they could be right?

Nah.

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ThoseDeafMutesVery good! Keep thrusting!(Today, 10:56 AM)

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#62

Originally Posted by Randam

What would be the benefit for them to keep it a secret??

Making it available for everyone would make them soooo much more money.

The conspiracy is usually in the form of "it's much more profitable to get somebody to pay for years of cancer treatment than it isfor a once off cure". Usually if somebody is peddling said cure, it's some kind of herb, supplement or dietary chance that theywant you to read their book about, for the low low price of 19.99, or 10 dollars on kindle. "Drug companies can't patent thismiracle cure, because it's all natural!"

Log4GirlzI recently went to my friends

house to check out his w ii. I was

generally impressed. It was

larger than I expected though.

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#63

Originally Posted by Randam

What would be the benefit for them to keep it a secret??

Making it available for everyone would make them soooo much more money.

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Money is in the treatment! No one in their right minds would steal the cure for hundreds of billions of dollars in personal gain :/

Shanks D ZoroMember(Today, 10:59 AM)

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#64I am sure Steve Jobs would be a pretty high bidder, but cancer still got him.

ThoseDeafMutesVery good! Keep thrusting!(Today, 11:00 AM)

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#65

Originally Posted by Log4Girlz

Money is in the treatment! No one in their right minds would steal the cure for hundreds of billions of dollars in personalgain :/

None of the scientists would come forward to claim the nobel prize, they'd get whacked by the illuminati

Originally Posted by Shanks D Zoro

I am sure Steve Jobs would be a pretty high bidder, but cancer still got him.

I don't recall the exact details but I believe he attempted alternative treatments prior to getting conventional ones and it worsenedhis condition.

NephtisMember(Today, 11:00 AM)

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#66

Originally Posted by Log4Girlz

Money is in the treatment! No one in their right minds would steal the cure for hundreds of billions of dollars in personalgain :/

look at the guy that made the Polio vaccine! Dude died poor :P

Really though, even if we had the cure for cancer, it just means you're cured for that instance. Cancer is a mutation of the cells,so unless we can prevent said mutation from occurring in the first place, the cancer can still come back. So you'd be cured again.

MakaiMember(Today, 11:01 AM)

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#67

Originally Posted by ThoseDeafMutes

The conspiracy is usually in the form of "it's much more profitable to get somebody to pay for years of cancer treatmentthan it is for a once off cure". Usually if somebody is peddling said cure, it's some kind of herb, supplement or dietarychance that they want you to read their book about, for the low low price of 19.99, or 10 dollars on kindle. "Drugcompanies can't patent this miracle cure, because it's all natural!"

I find the herbal supplement market fascinating. Its customers seem to have this attitude that consumption of herbs can only bepositive. Harmless at worst and miracle cures at best.

BLAZERJunior Member(Today, 11:13 AM)

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#68I'm sure it can be cured with stem cell research. But where would that lead humanity...You have your answer.

FaizMember(Today, 11:13 AM)

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#69

Originally Posted by PsychBat!

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What say you, GAF? Think they have a clue or are they fucking idiots?

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"Fucking idiots" is a little harsh but it's more the latter than the former, but I'll ask a question in return.

Was it worth the emotional stress on your family relationships to escalate the discussion to an argument based in anger? Itdoesn't make any real logical sense, but shitting on them and treating them like idiots isn't going to get you anywhere.

Instead of getting pissy, try to 1) understand that the sentiment is rooted in modern distrust of government and large corporationsand 2) make your points and if they don't buy it just move on. When you present an argument the wrong way your just as likely tomake the other party dig in no matter how sound your points are.

EncoMember(Today, 11:15 AM)

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#70They should come to GAF and join the other conspiracy theorists.

And no there's no chance they're right.

Big pharma can do some sneaky shit but hiding a cure from the world isn't one.

And 'herbal' med is nonsense. The claims are ridiculous. Many drugs are based on natural products anyway.

Oh and there are so many types of cancer the chances of a cure is really really low. It's unlikely to have all cancers cured in ourlife time. Maybe in the future it will be managed like diabetes.

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MattKeilBIGTIME TV MOGUL #2(Today, 11:16 AM)

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#71

Originally Posted by ThoseDeafMutes

I don't recall the exact details but I believe he attempted alternative treatments prior to getting conventional ones and itworsened his condition.

Yup. His type of cancer was actually fairly treatable, but he spent so much time messing around with alternative medicine that bythe time he got actual help it had progressed too far.

MasterBallsMember(Today, 11:17 AM)

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#72I think my girlfriend thinks the moon landing was fake. She may have been joking. I'm legit too scared to push it. Becauseyikes.

HarryKSMember(Today, 11:40 AM)

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#73Well, there is a solution: nanomachines.I say this without any comedic purpose. Perhaps the technology is still in its infancythough.

The LampMember(Today, 12:11 PM)

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#74

Originally Posted by HarryKS

Well, there is a solution: nanomachines.I say this without any comedic purpose. Perhaps the technology is still in itsinfancy though.

My professor was researching designing nanomaterials for nanoscale devices that could be injected into the body and diagnosecancers like pancreatic cancer. I helped him for some of the materials research. It's not really sci-fi anymore.

CurryganMember(Today, 12:12 PM)

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#75a lot of people do. There's some believability to it, tbh

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MattKeilBIGTIME TV MOGUL #2(Today, 12:22 PM)

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#76

Originally Posted by Currygan

a lot of people do. There's some believability to it, tbh

If by "some" you mean "none." For reasons that have been explained numerous times in this thread.

Sho_Nuff82Excuse me while I burn 24%of my money.(Today, 12:27 PM)

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#77

Originally Posted by diggmcbadass

If they keep it secret to all but the highest bidder, I don't see how Steve Jobs would die from cancer.

So simply put, and so true.

If there was a cure for cancer, no government in the world would be powerful enough to prevent a pharma company fromexploiting it to hell and back.

boiled goosegood with gravy(Today, 12:40 PM)

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#78

Originally Posted by ApatheticDolphin

Yeah, I have a friend who justifies smoking by saying that there's a cure for lung cancer (Hash Oil) but it's not legal. Iknow it's got some benefits... but still.

Smoking can give you other types of cancer too.

linsivviMember(Today, 12:41 PM)

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#79

Originally Posted by Currygan

a lot of people do. There's some believability to it, tbh

First of all, do you know what a vaccine is, and do you know what cancer is?

Secondly, cancer is a family of diseases. You cannot have a single cure for dozens of diseases.

mcz117chiefMember(Today, 12:46 PM)

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#80There are two options:

1) They have some very clean and very broad spectrum drug for cancer but don't distribute it for fear or losing cash income (notvery likely but possible)

2) They try to prevent people from finding the cure so that they can cash in on the victims by selling them their own drugs andletting them pay for expensive therapies (very likely)

Originally Posted by linsivvi

Secondly, cancer is a family of diseases. You cannot have a single cure for dozens of diseases.

Just like every other disease on the planet. Each disease mutates ever so slightly inside every person when he/she is infected.

DonasaurusRexOnline Ho Champ(Today, 12:47 PM)

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#81vaccine? Cancer isn't a germ, For one there are many forms of it, even of a single type of cancer. Furthermore, its when cellsdo whats best for themselves instead of acting in unison with other cells, hence why they grow rapidly. Even if we found atreatment or antioxidant that were able to stop and revert growth of cancer cells that say happened in the ovarys .... that doesntmean it will work in the pancreas or lungs.

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mean it will work in the pancreas or lungs.

SinfamyMember(Today, 01:07 PM)

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#82If it existed wouldn't billionaires like Steve Jobs have access to it instead of dying?

McLovinMember(Today, 01:12 PM)

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#83Cancer can't really be vaccinated, its not a virus or outside disease invading your body. It's your own cells fucking up. The onlyway that I could imagine fully curing cancer would be to have your whole genetic data backed up and have little nano bots goingthrough your body keeping your cells in check, and that's not going to happen any time soon. All we can really do is treat it and/ornuke it with radiation.

mcz117chiefMember(Today, 01:12 PM)

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#84

Originally Posted by Sinfamy

If it existed wouldn't billionaires like Steve Jobs have access to it instead of dying?

Maybe it didn't work on him. I know people who died of flu.

Zvonimir BobanMember(Today, 01:12 PM)

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#85

Originally Posted by Sinfamy

If it existed wouldn't billionaires like Steve Jobs have access to it instead of dying?

If they used the cure then it would reveal the existence of said cure to the rest of the world.

Think about it man.

angular graphicsMember(Today, 01:16 PM)

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#86

Originally Posted by Shanks D Zoro

I am sure Steve Jobs would be a pretty high bidder, but cancer still got him.

Are you honestly that naive? Obviously the Big Pharma knows sacrifices have to be made in order for their plan to deceive us towork. Steve Jobs' death was a necessity.

Jobs' unbelievable success is not a surprise either. Obviously it's the government's mind control at work as compensation formaking a deal not to treat him. "For our plan to work, we'll make you America's #1 guy but you'll have to die, deal?"

Not to mention Apple's technological breakthroughs with the iPhone are not a product of chance either. Hint: the spaceships thegovernment has captured utilize touch-screen tech.

Who the fuck believes such shit?!

Bonfires DownMember(Today, 01:20 PM)

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#87I've been looking into Black salve and I find it very impressive what it can do to peripheral cancers. It is very painful withoutstrong painkillers though, and it doesn't seem to work as well internally.

Breast cancer removal

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Breast cancer removal

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VolimarMember(Today, 01:21 PM)

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#88You'd have to think that there are so many people working on cancer research that someone not under the secret cabal'scontrol would come forward with a breakthrough. Just silly.

Originally Posted by angular graphics

Are you honestly that naive? Obviously the Big Pharma knows sacrifices have to be made in order for their plan todeceive us to work. Steve Jobs' death was a necessity.

Jobs' unbelievable success is not a surprise either. Obviously it's the government's mind control at work as compensationfor making a deal not to treat him. "For our plan to work, we'll make you America's #1 guy but you'll have to die, deal?"

Not to mention Apple's technological breakthroughs with the iPhone are not a product of chance either. Hint: thespaceships the government has captured utilize touch-screen tech.

Who the fuck believes such shit?!

You mean Steve Jobs' "death".

BLAZERJunior Member(Today, 01:23 PM)

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#89Wow the amount of people not looking at the bigger picture is astonishing!

StumpokapowCurrently AFK. Please askanother moderator for helpor support.(Today, 01:23 PM)

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#90Tell them to read "The Emperor of All Maladies".

Hoo-dooMember(Today, 01:24 PM)

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#91

Originally Posted by Currygan

a lot of people do. There's some believability to it, tbh

Indeed. Because a majority of people are wildly uneducated on the subject.

There is currently no believability to it though, none. Except in the minds of tinfoil-hat-wearing crazies who love a goodconspiracy.

Bit-BitMember(Today, 01:29 PM)

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#92

Originally Posted by Zvonimir Boban

If they used the cure then it would reveal the existence of said cure to the rest of the world.

Think about it man.

If no one uses the cure, then there is no cure.

thesoapsterMember(Today, 01:30 PM)

#93Each type of cancer differs from the other significantly, and even the same type of cancer in multiple people may respondcompletely differently to various treatments. This is one of the reasons on-demand, individual DNA sequencing will be a huge leap

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Quotein treatment. We can't just do that for everyone right now - it's not really feasible. But, some day, we will be able to, and it welllet us tailor treatments so that they are the most effective for that individual.

So no, you cannot just make one "cure for cancer".

GioGJunior Member(Today, 01:32 PM)

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#94

Originally Posted by diggmcbadass

If they keep it secret to all but the highest bidder, I don't see how Steve Jobs would die from cancer.

Because he was too busy trying to prove that his vegan diet was the ultimate cure.

BLAZERJunior Member(Today, 01:32 PM)

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#95

Originally Posted by Hoo-doo

Indeed. Because a majority of people are wildly uneducated on the subject.

There is currently no believability to it though, none. Except in the minds of tinfoil-hat-wearing crazies who love a goodconspiracy.

Are you serious?? Cancer will be the highest grossing killer along with bacteria that will ever face humanity. There is no wherehumans have to go to expand. Can you image the devastation it would cause to the world such as wars, overpopulation, an evenmore under resourced planet etc etc if people are allowed to live cancer free over others. I think you have drastically overlookedhow much it would effect the world. It would totally change humanity!

ArkosNose how to spell and redeto(Today, 01:34 PM)

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#96It's sad, a lot of conspiracy theories just seem like a desperate attempt to make the world suck less. "Oh there's a cute forcancer, we just don't know about it," "Oh there are super advanced aliens and space travel, it's just secret," "Oh the NWOcontrols the world so at least somebody is capable of doubt that," etc

syko de4dMember(Today, 01:36 PM)

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#97

Originally Posted by HarryKS

Well, there is a solution: nanomachines.I say this without any comedic purpose. Perhaps the technology is still in itsinfancy though.

This is a could talk about nanobots and how they could change medicine in the future

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5KLTonB3Pg

Its a really interesting video

CheechMember(Today, 01:37 PM)

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#98

Originally Posted by diggmcbadass

If they keep it secret to all but the highest bidder, I don't see how Steve Jobs would die from cancer.

This is pretty much it. If there was a cure for all cancers, that dude of all people would have found it.

Most cancers are very "curable" if caught early enough. But once it spreads, it's much harder to treat.

SocksAndShoesMember(Today, 01:39 PM)

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#99This has to be one of the dumbest conspiracies to believe in. If a cure existed why wouldn't Pfizer or another huge pharmacompany be selling it and profiting off of it?

Dumb. Just dumb.

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John KowalskiMember(Today, 01:39 PM)

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#100The worst to consider is the point at which their beliefs could harm real individuals, until that i would just shrug it off asclearly uneducated silly goosery. More interestingly, you could even take this as an example of America's fascination with the veryrich and its belief that life is immeasurably and unknowingly better at that class strata.

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