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TOUCHLINES

www.suttonreferees.co.uk

November 2014

March Society Meeting now

Wednesday 21st March

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Simeon says…

C o n t e n t s

2 Simeon Says…

3 Editor’s Notes

3 From the Chair

4 Sutton’s Super Refs

5 Captions Please!

6 Notices & requests for referees

8 Is the Pitch Fit for Play?

7 Howard Webb – A Life in Football

12 Who was the ref?

13 ..in the Referee’s Opinion

17 Check the Net

26 Society Contacts

27 Minutes

28 Dates for Your Diary

November Meeting – Wednesday 12th

Hi, All.

First of all, Apologies from our intended October guest speaker,

Steve Bennett, who had to withdraw earlier in the day due to

being delayed on a business trip abroad. Always frustrating as a

secretary but I guess with big named speakers this is always a

chance.

Talking of guest speakers, it’s really pleasing to see Kit Symons -

who attended one of our meetings last season - has been given

the 1st Team job at Fulham and we wish him all the success for

his spell in charge.

The next paragraph is a copy from last month’s address that I

feel quite passionate about but had no replies, so will give it

another go - I would be particularly interested to hear from the

younger members:

I would like to put something forward to all our youth and

younger members: Would you be interested in having your own

get together - maybe half an hour prior to the main meeting - to

discuss issues that maybe you wouldn’t otherwise bring up? My

plan would be to have one of the committee members chair this

meeting to allow any issues or actions to be recorded and acted

upon, not to mention to give great advice. If you feel this would

be beneficial to you and would like to participate, please email or

telephone me to register your interest. This does not commit you

to attending every meeting but allows us to try something new.

Gordon Harrison will be our guest speaker for the November

meeting; Gordon is a well-respected Contributory Assessor and

has in the past been a Chairman of a Ryman Football Club.

Please make every effort to attend.

One last point: remember to take advantage of the 20% discount

the society offers to all members if they purchase a full referee

kit - including the new Nike Kit.

As always the Committee are looking for suggestions, so please

let anyone know your thoughts.

I look forward to seeing you all on the 12th November at Gander

Green Lane.

TOUCHLINES is published by the Sutton Referees’ Society.

Editor: Mike Coen

Email: [email protected]

The reproduction of articles and news is welcomed by the Society.

They would, however, like to receive a copy of those publications

which reproduce any of our articles, either in whole or in part.

The opinions expressed in TOUCHLINES merely reflect the views

of the authors and are not binding in any way on the editor or

any official.

Front cover photo:

Declan Wyatt meets Howard Webb:

Surrey RAFA Event – October 2014

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Simeon

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Hello Everyone!!

Just completed an action-packed footie-filled

week! Sunday saw me on the line in the FA

Trophy at Cray Wanderers. Then Tuesday

night’s Surrey Senior Cup line at Carshalton

turned out to be anything but straightforward

when no referee showed up!!

It turned out that the ref had informed Surrey

of his unavailability but somehow it hadn’t

reached the system. Gareth Mays was the

more senior of the two of us, so he took up

the whistle and frantic phoning around dug

up a last minute replacement assistant. Our

own Neil Sitch was about to drop everything

and come to the ground in response to my

phone-call when we heard that the club had

found someone.

Even more drama for me later when a wild

challenge by an Egham player was so late,

that Gareth had already turned to follow play

up the park and so required my flag to

indicate the rarity of a red card to be

awarded from the touchline.

Wednesday saw me at Leatherhead, -

together with four other level 4s and a level

3 – for a training evening with Tim Lawrence

and David Crick. We are very lucky in

Surrey to have these opportunities with

senior figures prepared to give of their time

to pass on their experience. This proved to

be a most informative evening on a variety

of topics, the prevalent theme being

positioning (one of my bugbears!).

Thursday was undoubtedly the highlight,

with Howard Webb speaking at the Surrey

RAFA Event at Imber Court. Much more on

that fantastic evening later in this issue.

How many wives would put up with their

other halves’ hobbies keeping them out of

the house so often in a single week without

complaint? I’m either blessed with a tolerant

spouse or more annoying than I realise

when I’m at home!!

See you on the park,

or at Gander Green

Lane.

Mike.

Editor’s Notes From the Chair

Dear Colleagues,

Well the season is starting to gain speed

now and over the last few weeks I have

watched a number of games on the parks.

It has been a little concerning that when

watching these games I have seen three

separate referees make mistakes in Law.

In one game it occurred in the first 10

minutes and from that moment onwards

both teams and parents were on at the

referee, which was a shame as overall he

had a good game.

Unfortunately, the only thing the managers

could focus on was this mistake. I know that

some decisions are a matter of opinion but

there really should be no excuse for being

incorrect in Law.

I feel that as referees it is a given that we

must know all the Laws and action them

accordingly.

Appearance and fitness are a given, as

should knowing the Laws of the game. I

would therefore urge all of you to revisit

them on a fairly regular basis and please

use the Society meetings to clarify any

areas that you feel the need to.

Hopefully see you all at the meeting.

Grant Sheavyn

Chairman

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Sutton’s Super Refs

Simeon Potter

Surrey Saturday Senior Cup Merstham -v- Whyteleafe (Assistant)

Mike Coen

Women’s FA Cup – 2nd Qualifying Rd Carshalton Athletic Ladies -v- Maidstone Ladies Sun 12th Oct

FA Trophy – Extra Qualifying Rd Cray Wanderers -v- Hastings Utd (Assistant) Sun 19th Oct

Surrey Saturday Senior Cup Carshalton Athletic -v- Egham Town (Assistant) Tue 21st Oct

FA Trophy – 1st Qualifying Rd Dulwich Hamlet -v- Chalfont St Peter (Assistant) Sat 1st Nov

Surrey Sunday Junior Cup AFC Rio -v- FC Croydon Sun 2nd Nov

FA Trophy – 1st Qualifying Rd Replay Leatherhead -v- Canvey Island (Assistant) Wed 5th Nov

Surrey Sunday Veterans’ Cup Old Wimbledonians Vets -v- Croydon JFC Vets Sun 9th Nov

Surrey U18 Midweek Floodlit Cup Egham Town U18 -v- Farnham Town U18 Mon 10th Nov

Keith Glover

Surrey U16 Cup Links U16 -v- Old Coulsdon U16 Sun 16th Nov

AFC Wimbledon Development -v- Crystal Palace Ladies Sun 16th Nov

Barrie Whittington

Surrey Sunday Intermediate Cup Rd 2 Sutton Knights -v- Kingston University Sun 26th Oct

Jamie Whittington

Surrey Saturday Premier Cup Rd 1 Lingfield Reserves -v- Farleigh Rovers (Assistant) Tue 4th Nov

Keith Slaughter

Surrey Senior Cup Rd 1 Croydon -v- Colliers Wood Utd (Assistant) Wed 22nd Oct

Peter Crichlow

Surrey Premier Cup Staines Lammas -v- Shene Old Grammarians Tue 28th Oct

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CAPTIONS PLEASE !!!

H a v e y o u a n a m u s i n g c a p t i o n f o r t h e p i c t u r e ?

Email your thoughts to me and I’ll put the best efforts in the next issue.

Keith Glover

- Step over it, lads and you’ll disappear too!!

Fez Barnard

- Where’s Robbie Fowler when you need him?

Barrie Whittington

- First the ref gives me a yellow card - now he’s giving me white boots!

Jerzy Dabrowski

- Aw Ref!!! You've ruined my new boots!

… a n d L a s t M o n t h ’ s O f f e r i n g s

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Reminder – Free First Year’s RA

Membership for New Members

It is worth noting that the following was introduced at the last RA AGM:

The introduction of free first year’s membership to all those joining

the RA as new members, which was brought in on the 1st August,

2014.

The concession only applies to referees joining for the first time, i.e. newly

qualified referees or referees who have never previously been RA

members. It applies to the first year of membership only and the free

element applies only to the RA subscription fee of £12 (£6 for U-18).

They will be required to pay the £4 insurance premium.

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Help! – Sunday Referees Wanted in Banstead

Hi. I hope you can help.

I'm the chairman of Beecholme Belles FC and I have had the onerous

task of allocating referees for our Sunday matches for the last two or three

seasons. This season I am finding that I'm having tremendous difficulty in

obtaining referees. In last three seasons we were fortunate enough to

have had one or two very reliable regulars we could call upon but one is

now studying in the States and the other is running our u14's side !!!

As I've never been in this position before do you happen to have any

referee contacts local to the Banstead area I could try.

I look forward to hearing from you shortly

All the best

Kind regards

Jim Hobern ([email protected])

Chairman

Beecholme Belles FC

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Howard Webb – A Life in Football

Surrey RAFA Event – 23rd October, 2014 Mike Coen

“Extraordinary things can happen to ordinary people”

Thursday 23rd October saw Surrey County

held their annual RAFA event at the

Metropolitan Police Ground, Imber Court.

Guest speaker was World Cup Referee,

Howard Webb and that alone was enough

to see the venue packed out with referees

of all ages and experience.

A marvellous buffet was also laid on and it

was in convivial mood that we took our

seats.

Howard Webb is the only referee ever to take charge of a match at Buckingham Palace (October

2013). This was his second occasion at the palace, the first being the award of his MBE for

services to football in May, 2011 (when Prince Charles asked, “Is it true that you’re a referee?”)

In the three days between the announcement of the appointment and his refereeing the World Cup

Final in 2010, Howard received over 1,500 messages of support via text and email. He took pains

to answer all of them, resulting in a phone bill of over £3,000!

He remembers an occasion shortly after that World Cup when he visited an establishment for

youngsters who had been excluded from mainstream education. On his arrival, one girl’s eyes

widened and she said, “You’re him, that ref, the one that reffed the final”. Howard confirmed that

he was, at which point she added, “You were s*** in that game!”

There is a myth that he is a Man Utd fan and stories go round

about him favouring the reds. This all stems from a game

between Man Utd and Liverpool where Howard awarded a Man U

penalty after just 25 seconds - tucked away by Ryan Giggs - and

later sent off Stephen Gerrard for a two-footed challenge. The

game finished 1-0 and post-match, Liverpool’s Ryan Babel

tweeted a mocked-up picture of Howard in a Man U shirt.

Out of a total of over 1,000 matches, Howard picked out 6 that he

considered pivotal to his career:

No 6 is his first ever game in January, 1990. It took place at

Orgreve, an industrial site more famous for the pitched battles

that had taken place between police and miners during the

miners’ strike. This was where it all started. It was to be another

11 years before he reached the Football League middle and a

further 3 before he middled on the Premier League. During that

time he learnt to be passionate about the game and the

importance of keeping your self-belief. “Don’t ever hide on a

football pitch, or you will find that the game goes away from you”. 7 Continued on Page 8...

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He learned that there will be bad times – there were occasions when he threw his bag in the corner

and decided he had had enough but ‘pain is temporary – quitting is permanent’. You must have the

courage to put your dreams above your fear of failure.

At 5 is the League Cup Final of 2007. Chelsea beat Arsenal 2-1 and in a game where there had

been no incidents, suddenly, in the final moments, he faced a major confrontation in the centre of

the pitch, with both Wenger and Mourinho coming onto the pitch in an attempt to calm their players

as things escalated quickly. This resulted in Mikkel and Toure being sent off immediately, shortly

followed by Adebayour on the advice of an assistant and two further yellow cards as well.

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Wanderers. This was the day that Fabrice Muamba’s heart stopped, resulting in his collapsing

face-down on the pitch. Both club doctors and another doctor from the crowd kept him alive with

heart compressions for 7 minutes before they could stretcher him off, his heart still being kept

active through manual intervention. In the end, it was calculated that he had survived for 78

minutes without his heart being able to beat on its own. The game was abandoned and highlighted

that the game of life and death was more important than football. Howard has since used this

incident when talking about the dangers of players feigning injury, as the ‘cry wolf’ syndrome could

cause a genuine injury not to be treated with the necessary seriousness until it is too late.

Match number 3 came with Euro 2008. Howard was the youngest and least experienced referee at

that tournament and refereed Austria (the hosts) against Poland in front of a large home crowd in

Vienna. The first half saw a Polish goal wrongly ruled out for offside. Mike Mullarkey, who made

the decision, was distraught when he heard that this had been a bad call in such a big game and

wondered if he had done his career irreparable damage…it just goes to show that a single mistake

isn’t going to be the be all and end all…not unless it involves three yellow cards anyway!!

In the final minute, with Austria 1-0 down, they prepared to take a free-kick close to the halfway

line. Before it could be taken, Howard, having spotted some grappling in the penalty area, was

seen to warn players about their actions before he allowed the kick to be taken. A subsequent grab

by a Polish defender on an Austrian shirt meant that Howard awarded a penalty that saw Austria

rescue a 1-1 draw. The fallout after the game was incredible. UEFA supported the decision but

death threats were made against Howard and his family. One poor chap, who shares Howard’s

name and works at Rotherham Borough Council, found that his normally quiet email account had

suddenly filled up with hundreds of threats from Polish fans.

Number 2 is the Champions’ League Final in Madrid, between Inter Milan and Bayern Munich.

Inter won 2-0 and Howard describes this as probably the most enjoyable night of his life. There

was no controversy in a game played in a temple of football. It may seem strange but most

With this sort of incident, Howard couldn’t

help but fear the worst as he wondered how

he was seen to have managed such a

volatile situation. Apparently, the clue is

normally in how many texts you receive; a

lot of texts is a good sign – just a couple

from close family and friends normally

means you have got something badly

wrong!! He arrived in the changing room to

find he had received a lot of thumbs-up

messages. He had initially seen the incident

as a negative but, for him, it became a

positive.

Number 4 is the FA Cup match on 17th

March, 2012, between Spurs and Bolton

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referees can probably empathise with Howard when he says that the main emotion he feels after

such a big game is relief.

The match occupying Howard’s number-1 spot is, of course, the 2010 World Cup Final in South

Africa. Played at Soccer City Stadium, it was contested between Spain and Holland. Many people

were saying that these were two teams who knew how football should be played and that it was

going to be a spectacle but Howard had the feeling that it was too big a game for either side to play

expansive football – and so it proved.

The day before the game, the refereeing team visited the stadium to understand the layout and

how everything was going to work on the night. The idea being to have all that covered, so they

could fully concentrate on the game itself the next day. Then, on the way back to the hotel, the

coach turned off so they could visit a coffee shop. There waiting for them was Jack Taylor, the last

Englishman to have refereed a World Cup Final, in 1974. The team spent a happy 30 minutes

talking with the great man.

We took a short interval at that point, to refresh our glasses (and perhaps our plates), although

Howard found time to speak with those who wanted a word, signing autographs and posing for

photos, before we took our seats for the second half, where Howard talked about his experiences

in Brazil for the 2014 World Cup.

After 2010, Howard was determined to show continued resilience. He really wanted to go to Brazil.

Pre-tournament, there were tests on Laws of the Game as well as physical tests. Differences

between referees were closely examined, drilling down in an effort to achieve consistency.

Situations were videoed on the pitch, then the videos were examined and decisions discussed.

When the referees were assigned for the preparatory tournaments, Howard went to the FIFA

Confederations Cup.

He was then assigned to the second leg of the playoff between Portugal and Sweden. By this

stage, Howard and his team knew that a slot in Brazil was theirs to lose, so a good game was

essential. Portugal had won the first leg 1-0. This second game was goalless in the first half

before Ronaldo scored in the second half to see Portugal two ahead on aggregate. Ibrahomovic

managed to pull one back before Howard faced a major decision. A Swedish player raced into the

area only to tumble as a Portuguese player moved in for a challenge. The Swedes were calling for

a penalty but Howard had seen this as a dive and cautioned the Swede for simulation.

Just minutes later, the Swedes scored anyway and everything was all square. Sweden decided to

go for it but in doing so, left space to be exploited. Ronaldo came into his own with two further

goals and Portugal were going to Brazil.

The match itself proved to be a spectacle

for all the wrong reasons. Within 15

minutes, Howard had shown 2 yellow

cards and 9 minutes later, he had shown

two more. On 25 minutes came the De

Jong challenge, which is the incident that

most people still remember most vividly. A

chest-high challenge that Howard

rewarded with a yellow card where a view

from another angle would surely have

resulted in a red. A red card was

eventually shown, to Johnny Heitinger for

two yellow card offences.

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The question was, was Howard? That big decision proved to have been correct but Howard was

aware that just that one incident could have seen everything go wrong. You can give of your best

but sometimes things can go badly and have unfortunate consequences, even if it turns out there

was nothing else you could have done.

When the tournament proper started, the first two games saw some poor decisions being made.

First there was an incorrect penalty for Brazil in the opening game then two incorrect offside

decisions led to goals being wrongly disallowed in the second game. Howard was of the opinion

that some of the preparatory training may have had a hand in the incorrect penalty award. All the

referees had been practicing with teams who were deliberately giving away penalties but the

simulated fouls were just that, simulated, so the reflex to award penalties on those sorts of

challenges just may have become ingrained. As the tournament progressed, it was also seen that

several fouls that would normally have resulted in cautions were not being punished.

Howard was the referee on match 21: Columbia -v- Cote d’Ivoire. All went well in terms of no

controversy but the first half proved a technological nightmare when first the buzzer flags and then

the communications equipment stopped working. They got everything working for the second half

and again, all went well.

Final preparations for Brazil saw more seminars, including instructions

in the use of the new Vanishing Spray. With heat and humidity known

to be an issue, Howard took some training in a special room at a

university, where he was hooked up to various machines and pounded

a treadmill in conditions not unlike a steam room at the local gym.

Then came match 49 – the first knock-out game

between Brazil and Chile. Howard describes it as

one of the most intense games of his life, with both

camps playing mind games in the lead up. On 51

minutes came the game’s key decision. Brazil’s Fred

controlled a long ball on his chest - but with

assistance from his arm - before sweeping the ball

into the goal. Howard was 90% certain that an arm

had been used and four Chilean players instantly and

independently turned to him, tapping their forearms

and shouting ‘manos’ (handball). Howard disallowed

the goal and Fred’s reaction – nothing more than a petulant shrug – added to his conviction that he had made the correct decision. With the scores

level, Chile hit the bar in the closing stages before Brazil went on to win on penalties (Phew!)

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There were sessions with sports psychologists,

where both outcome and performance goals

were discussed. Howard’s outcome goals were

somewhat different than many of the other

referees as, having refereed the final four years

earlier, he knew that was no longer a target for

him.

On arrival in Brazil there was more physical training and more classroom sessions. Howard did a session on the line. He knew he wouldn’t be called upon to pick

up a flag but figured that the best way to understand what his assistants were going to want from

him in terms of game communication was to spend some time in their boots.

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However, as he came off the pitch at the end of the game, he couldn’t help but hope that video

replays had not shown the disallowed goal to be an error. As mentioned earlier, the number of

phone messages is always a good indicator and his phone was full of praise for the decision (Phew

again!)

Howard has now made the decision to retire from refereeing whilst still at the top of the game,

taking up the post of PGMOL Technical Director. His key role is to act as a voice for the PGMOL,

to make sure others don’t fill the void when the referees themselves don’t speak. He also heads

up the coaching team.

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There was also time for Kingston’s

Jim de Rennes to receive his 25-

Year Award. How many referees

get the chance to have such an

award presented by an English

World Cup Final Referee?

The admiration that referees feel for Howard Webb

made itself felt with the ovation he received at the

end of his talk and with the huge queue that formed,

everyone eager for photos and autographs.

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As printed in September’s edition.....

Who was the Ref?

Who was the Ref?

Barrie Whittington thought: “Judging by the age of the photo - my guess would be someone like

John Martin?”

Fez Barnard had two bites at the cherry, guessing: “Simeon or Grant?”

Matt Westlake had “No Idea, but why is he in the care of a young Simeon Potter? Hahahahaha!”

Nobody got close. It was, in fact, Wayne Ingram (Last picture ever taken

with his mouth closed!!.....just kidding, Wayne ;0)

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.…in the Referee’s Opinion….

Your Thoughts, Questions and Comments

Mike:

I have now had time to read right through the October 2014 edition of your Society’s “Touchlines”

magazine which was forwarded on to me via the RA’s Head Office at Coventry.

Congratulations on an outstanding publication, both in content and presentation, which does Sutton

RS proud and is a massive aid to the recruitment and retention of members.

Your list of Guest Speakers, etc., for the current 2014-15 season is particularly impressive - if that

doesn’t attract referees to attend in numbers, I really don’t know what will.

If it’s OK with you, could you please add me to your monthly emailed circulation list for future

issues, for which my sincere thanks in advance - and keep up the excellent work!

Best Regards,

Ian.

Ian Campbell - RA Board Vice-Chairman

Chair of Internal Communications Committee

Very late in a senior league game, the score is 2-1 to the

reds but they are down to nine men and hanging on to

their lead when they are awarded a throw in close to their

own goal line.

The left back, who has previously been cautioned, takes

the throw down the line but it bounces behind the

touchline. Your assistant flags to say that the ball had

never come into play, so you ask for the throw to be

retaken. The same thing happens on the second attempt,

which causes agitation amongst the blue players and

angry shouts from the crowd. The red thrower insists he

is doing his best but that the wind must be catching the

ball.

He then takes the throw for the third time with the same

result.

You are the ref! What action, if any, do you take?

Continued on Page 14...

Listening to Danny Baker the other day and he had a topic called "Scoring a goal when you were

unconscious" and it made me think whether the goals, in certain scenarios should be disallowed.

For example, one of the players went for a low diving header, made contact with the ball, then got

kicked in the head by a defender trying to clear the ball, getting knocked unconscious at the time.

Should it be a goal or should the defending team get a free kick as the forward endangered

himself?

Jerzy Dabrowski

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Daniel Rukstelis thinks: “I must say that I am having the game of my career here with who knows

how many yellow cards and two red cards to the same team. And now suddenly at the end of the

match (after countless throw-ins have been made correctly), but in these dying minutes the red

player can't manage it three times in a row -- sounds very suspicious and against the laws of

probability. But sadly, he is not delaying the restart of play because he is not ‘delaying the taking’ of

the throw-in. On the third incorrect throw-in, I am going to get the captain to come over to me and

ask him to have a word with his player, and also make clear that time will be added on for the

previous incorrect throws.”

John Martin would manage the situation with guile, advising: “Tricky! Is he very clever at time

wasting or is it genuine? If the former he could be cautioned but the latter would be difficult to

adjudge. I think the third one actually came into play, so award the throw to the opposing team.”

Fez Barnard has possibly forgotten that he has already cautioned the player, when he advises:

“The LOTG state that if the ball bounces before coming onto the pitch, the throw is to be retaken.

However on this incident there is an element of delaying the restart of the game. I would caution

the player, add on additional time for the shenanigans and ask the throw to be retaken. I bet the

next throw will be perfect.”

Peter Watson advises careful management of the situation but is still prepared to be tough:

“Manage the situation by speaking to the captain, advising either to change the thrower or

encourage the defender to take the throw properly. Otherwise, you will have no option in issuing a

second caution for time-wasting.”

Jerzy Dabrowski takes all the elements into consideration, including the temperature of the game:

“Well the first thing to consider is whether there is a wind and whether it is blowing the right way for

it to adversely affect the left back's throws. Secondly I would look at whether he was facing the

pitch in accordance with the LOTG. If he was doing everything correctly, I would warn him that

another occurrence would see him getting a yellow card for time wasting, thus trying to ensure he

knew what the repercussions would be. If he was deliberately time wasting, ie there was no

breeze, then I would show him a yellow, followed by a red card (although he might still get a

warning if I felt sending him off would make the game boil over).”

Neil Sitch would not advise taking that final step: “Tell him to get it right next time or request that

someone else has a bash. I would point to my watch and make sure everyone is aware you are

adding the time. A second yellow sounds too harsh and would just inflame the situation more. It is

however open to you but I wouldn't go there!”

Chris Robinson talks us through how he would have managed the unfolding scenario: “Tricky one

this. You could show him a 2nd yellow card for time-wasting and then a red card. He would be

dismissed for a 2nd bookable offence and his team would have to finish with 8 players (well within

the legal minimum of 7). However, perhaps you should have warned him after the 2nd failed throw

in that your patience was wearing thin, that he did not need to be throwing down the line (he could

throw infield and avoid the problem) and that any repetition would result in a yellow card/red card

dismissal for deliberate time-wasting and that you will be adding time on in any event. That would

have concentrated his mind on the task in hand! Re-start with someone else from the red team

taking the throw in, with a warning that there should be no repetition of his team-mate's behaviour.“

...Continued from page 13

Mike Coen says: “I was the referee on a recent game where this scenario started to be played out.

Exactly as advised by Chris above, I let the first one go but once the second throw had also stayed

out, warned the player very publicly that a third occurrence would be considered deliberate and

would result in a second yellow card. He took great care to ensure that his third effort came infield,

so I did not need to take further action but I would have had no hesitation in so doing (I obviously

adjusted the real scenario slightly when writing the question). Had he erred for the third time

without my taking action, match control would have been extremely difficult for the remaining time.”

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...Continued from page 14

A keeper prepares to take a free kick

from just outside his own penalty area.

He places the ball then quickly steps

beyond it to shout instructions to a

defender.

As he steps back again, he accidentally

back-heels the ball into his own net.

How do you restart?

Peter Watson starts by keeping it short and sweet with: “Corner kick”

Martin Collis keeps it even shorter, with: “Corner”.

John Martin adds some explanation: “Corner kick. All criteria are met for the ball being in play but

you can’t score in your own goal from a free kick.”

Jerzy Dabrowski agrees: “I would restart the game by giving the other team a corner kick. I don't

think it matters whether the kick is direct or indirect.”

Neil Sitch risks a riot for the sake of humour, then agrees with the above, saying: “Tell him it's a

goal and watch his face.... then I suppose you might have to give the other team a corner kick

much to his relief.”

Fez Barnard also advises: “Simples...if a free kick is kicked directly into the team's own goal, a

corner kick is awarded to the opposing team”

as do Rod van Niekerk: “Restart with a corner.”,

Daniel Rukstelis: “A corner kick to the opposing team.”

and Mike Coen: “An own goal cannot be scored from a free-kick, regardless of whether direct or

indirect (the laws were changed several years ago to include direct free kicks). The restart will be

a corner.”

Chris Robinson believes there to be different outcomes depending on whether direct or indirect:

“Obviously the keeper has made a complete rick of the free kick and unintentionally, accidentally

kicked the ball. If the free kick was awarded for offside, it will be indirect (not forgetting that your

arm should be raised to signal this). You could treat the kick as having been taken, but disallow the

goal on the grounds that the ball would have to be touched by some other player before it crossed

the line in order for a goal to be scored. Re-start with a corner to the opposition, since the ball will

be treated as having crossed the goal line, having last been played by the keeper. If the free kick

was direct, you could take pity on the keeper, apply common sense and order the kick to be re-

taken, advising the other team that you would do exactly the same for them if they made such an

error. To assist in this, you could try to hide behind the "I hadn't blown my whistle" excuse (I've

seen it done on the telly!), but in reality, you do not need to blow the whistle in order to signal that a

free kick be taken. Strictly speaking, you should apply the letter of the Law and signal that a goal

has been scored.”

Keith Hackett says: “It's a corner. A goal cannot be awarded from any free-kick kicked directly into

the team's own net. The Laws make clear that, if that happens, ‘a corner is awarded to the

opposing team’".

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You blow for kick-off at the start of the game

but the taker hesitates; he’s spotted his keeper

lying injured – it looks like he fell awkwardly

while dangling from the crossbar.

His manager wants to replace him – without

using up a substitution.

What do you do?

...Continued from page 15

Jerzy Dabrowski starts us on this one: “The ball is in play when it is kicked (and supposedly

moves forward but more often than not, backwards) so if the player has not kicked the ball then the

goalkeeper can be replaced without using up a substitution. However I would talk to the injured

and replacement keeper about such actions as a warning that such actions can cause injury.”

John Martin also says: “The whistle is only a signal to start play, until the ball is moved forward

and all other requirements of the kick-off are met, the game has not begun. Therefore the

goalkeeper can be replaced and the substitute list amended.”

Daniel Rukstelis agrees: “Yes. Allow the manager to replace the goalie without using up a

substitution. The match has not started because all the procedures of a kick-off were not

completed.”

as does Mike Coen: “Play has not started until the ball has been kicked. The whistle is merely a

signal that the game may start. Therefore, in this scenario, the goalkeeper may be replaced

without using up a substitution.”

Fez Barnard is in the same camp: “The referees watch should only be started when the ball is

kicked and not on the whistle. As the game hasn't started, the coach can replace any player with a

nominated player. This wouldn't be classed as a substitute. When ready the game can start.”

as is Neil Sitch: “Ball isn't in play until it's kicked so I'm thinking he is okay to replace the player.”

Peter Watson is the first to disagree: “Assuming team sheets were submitted before the game, if

the player's injury is such that he is unable to play, and if the manager wants to field a full side,

then the player is to be substituted. Which player goes into goal is the manager's decision,

however, the team is now minus one substitute. You could add insult to injury by cautioning the

injured 'keeper!”

Chris Robinson agrees with Peter: “The whistle signals not just that the game can start, but that it

has started, hence time running from when the whistle is blown. Even though the ball has not been

kicked, the game has actually started. So they cannot replace the keeper with a named substitute,

without using up one of their three substitutions. It would be different if the injury occurred during

the warm up and was drawn to your attention before the start of play. In that case, they could use

a named substitute without reducing their three available substitutions, but they would have to

reduce their substitutes available during the game to six instead of the seven named on the team

sheet.“

Keith Hackett says: “The game does not start with your whistle – the ball must be kicked and

move forward – so there is still time to make the change. Allow the manager to bring on another

player to play in goal: either a goalkeeper from the named substitutes or, if there is no reserve

keeper on the bench, a registered keeper from outside the matchday squad. If he does use a

keeper from the bench, the team can add another substitute to replace him."

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Grass Roots Football in Crisis Spotted by Peter Watson in the Independent on-line – 7th October, 2014

Check the Net !!! Snippets pulled from the World Wide Web

It’s a quarter to nine in the morning, and the sun is out, which is a relief because it is no fun trying

to build a goal in the rain.

Before anyone can score a goal for the Under-12s in the Primary Boys Football League (PBFL),

based in Tolworth, on the London-Surrey border, they have to construct one. The Football

Association no longer allows this age group to use full-size goals, which is progress, but councils

rarely install small permanent goals. So every Saturday morning parents and players are to be

seen trying to rebuild the portable ones, working out which post goes in which socket, before

stringing up the net. Once built, the goals are carried 100 yards to the pitches. Then, when the

matches are over, it is all done in reverse.

Part 1 – The Kids: Glenn Moore looks at the grim reality facing a children’s football league where players and organisers have to endure dreadful facilities, unplayable pitches and a shameful lack of financial support.

COMMENT: PLAYERS COULD

FUND PITCHES... BUT THEN

AGAIN PIGS MIGHT FLY!!!

at the start of the season and then cut the grass, thus taking off most of the paint; not that it

painted all the lines. The Respect lines, which are supposed to keep parents five yards back from

the touchline, have, as usual, not been marked, nor even, on some pitches, the centre circle.

Although it pays the council for this service, the PBFL has had to buy its own paint and line-

marking machine to plug the gaps left by QS’s neglect.

Welcome to the front line of grassroots youth football, whose ills Greg Dyke, the FA chairman, is

due to address on Friday when he publishes the long-awaited second report of his England

Commission.

five-a-side, so Webb has to reduce it with

cones. There is a similar problem with the U14s,

who have to play on a full-size pitch as coning

their one off is impractical.

Still, at least the referee can see the cones. As

elsewhere in the borough, QS painted the lines

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Meanwhile, over on the under-eight

pitches, Dave Webb, the U8s league

manager, is marking out the touchlines

with cones. Like many councils,

Kingston upon Thames has

subcontracted parks’ maintenance to a

private company, Quadron Services in

this case. QS is big, with a glitzy

website, but as far as the PBFL is

concerned it does “the bare minimum,

and often not even that”. The pitch QS

has marked out for the U8s is way too

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The PBFL is one of those marvellous organisations you occasionally stumble across and wonder

why the people who matter, like Dyke, are not helping it. For more than 40 years, it has been

providing safe, organised football for boys and girls from six-to-16 – hundreds every Saturday

morning, all run by volunteers. It is David Cameron’s Big Society in operation. It is the sort of

operation that should be held up by the professional game and politicians as an example for all. Yet

it is ignored by both camps as it struggles on from year to year, just pulling together enough cash to

keep going. Each Saturday around 450 kids play here. Some are decent – according to legend,

alumni include Wayne Routledge, Neil Sullivan, Justin Edinburgh, the current AFC Wimbledon

manager Neal Ardley and one of his emerging players, Will Nightingale. However, very few will

become professional footballers; that is not what the PBFL is about.

…Continued from Page 17

“We are incredibly cheap,” says Yellop, “much cheaper than Sunday football, and everything gets

ploughed back into kits or equipment.” Players pay £50 to £60 for the season. Match fees are

usually a pound or two to cover treats such as a Christmas trip to the nearby bowling alley and pay

the referees. These are mostly teenagers, many of whom first joined as players. Chris Banks, 17,

played from the age of seven to 16, combining that with refereeing in the later years, and now

helps run a team. He played for Kingstonian on Sundays, a higher level, but says: “I always

enjoyed playing as it was a fun thing to do with my mates. While the standard wasn’t so good, it

made me more understanding of other players. Refereeing has helped me be more confident.”

Building self-belief is one of sport’s great benefits (along with combating the obesity crisis). Hannah

Davies, a nurse whose son Rhys, seven, plays, says: “It is the highlight of his week. On Saturdays,

he has his football kit on before I even open my eyes. It’s built his confidence as he feels he’s really

good at something.”

But the number benefiting is declining as the PBFL has been losing players. Ten years ago it had

nearly 600 boys and girls every Saturday.

“The common thought is that more kids sit in front of an Xbox,” says Yellop, a retired police officer

and now a full-time carer. “I think it is more complicated than that. More parents work Saturdays

and then you look at our facilities. When we get adverse weather, we struggle to play.”

Last year, there were no matches for nearly three months because of waterlogged pitches. The

previous year, frozen pitches were the problem. Yellop adds: “The toilets are disgusting, the

showers are awful. The kids tend to arrive and go home in their kit, but we are getting more and

more girls down here now playing to U16 level and there are only grotty toilets for them. It is very

poor.

Nick Yellop, the chairman, explains: “There are no

trials, we take kids of all abilities, including those with

disabilities. It was started by a group of dads who had

been told their kids were not good enough for little

league selective football, hence the ethos of taking all-

comers.” That approach continues with players,

whatever their ability, guaranteed to play a significant

part of the match (a half to two-thirds).

This is, by many measures, a wealthy area, but there

are still plenty of families who have to count the cost of

everything and the PBFL keeps fees to a minimum.

Indeed, our conversation is interrupted by a parent

asking to pay his son’s season’s subscription in

instalments. He offers a fiver. PBFL Chairman Nick Yellop

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“The pavilion was built in 1962 and needs essential basic maintenance. Nothing gets done. I don’t

think there are any votes in sports fields but we are a ‘distraction activity’ for the local authority. We

are taking 450 kids out of trouble every morning, encouraging structured behaviour, playing football

or refereeing. We pay for the pitches [£7,800 last year] and it costs them nothing.”

The press office of Kingston upon Thames borough council issued a statement on behalf of QS,

which said: “Kingston is a borough that supports and promotes sport at all levels. We have to

operate within a tight budget. Our contractors do respond to requests from PBFL and we want

clubs to enjoy good facilities.”

However, Lyndon Johnson, the PBFL’s liaison with QS, said at times he has to complain on a

weekly basis. I myself have been involved at the PBFL for four years and I’ve not seen any

evidence of QS providing more than the most basic service.

There has been no help from the professional game. Attempts have been made to forge a

relationship with Fulham, whose training ground is just up the A3, but relegation from the Premier

League seems to have put a halt to that. When you have spent £11m on Ross McCormack, there

is presumably not much cash left to spare.

The admirable work of the Football Foundation does not reach this part of the grassroots either.

The PBFL does not own the land, so it is not eligible for grants to improve the drainage, or

construct a 3G pitch. A Premier League official has been coaxed down here, and was impressed,

but nothing more has been heard.

There is very little help from the county or national FA either. “We are a bit unique and that is a

problem,” says Yellop. “We’d like to have more managers take coaching courses, but cost is a

problem. I know the FA want all teams to have Level One coaches, but that is a bridge too far for

us, we struggle to get enough managers as it is. It is basically dads and other relatives.”

We are sitting in the pavilion [a fancy name for an outbuilding that resembles an air-raid shelter],

which is filling with the smell of chips being fried in the canteen area. Outside in the sun, hundreds

of children are running around chasing a ball. The air is full of shouts of joy and encouragement.

On days like this it is a great place to spend a Saturday morning. But when the rain comes, and the

pitches turn to clay, and there is no cover on the touchline for sodden substitutes and parents, it is

not as much fun. That is when the attraction of a morning in front of the Xbox increases, for parents

too, as they think of being soaked, then mud-caked children getting into their car after a game.

It is a moral crime that the game, and the Government, ignores places like this. Friday brings

Dyke’s report, next spring the various party manifestos will be issued ahead of the election. It is to

be hoped that there will be proposals in both to invest meaningfully in grassroots sport. However,

down on the touchline at Tolworth, no one is holding out much hope. They know they are on their

own.

…Continued from Page 18

Next month in Part Two: The fight for adults’ Sunday league football

Apparently, towels are the most common cause of dry skin.

Seen on the internet.

Rumours of a food shortage at this year’s Spoonarism

Awards turned out to be a complete lack of pies.

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Interesting reaction to a yellow card! Spotted by Jerzy Debrowski and Fez Barnard

There were some crazy scenes in the Bosnian second division this weekend as

Branitelj goalkeeper Romeo Mitrovic was sent for an early bath after an assault on

the referee.

http://thefootyarena.com/news/insane-bosnian-keeper-romeo-mitrovic-punches-referee-in-

head-for-being-yellow-

carded/?utm_content=bufferd83f9&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_ca

mpaign=buffer

The 35 year old goalkeeper lost his head after being shown a yellow card, throwing a punch at the

referee’s head.

The Branitelj goalkeeper is likely receive a lengthy ban for his completely unwarranted response.

Romeo Mitrovic’s side went on to lose 1-0 to Budućnost.

Serbia -v- Albania 2014 Spotted by Jerzy Debrowski and Fez Barnard

“Should the ref leave the pitch with players still on it – even in extreme circumstances?” Asks Jerzy

Dabrowski. “YES” – says Mike Coen. “When WW3 breaks out, it’s every man for himself!”

Tuesday night's Euro 2016 qualifying schedule was marred by an horrendous brawl in the game

between Serbia and Albania - and now fresh footage has emerged of the scandalous incident.

https://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/blogs/pitchside-europe/shocking-footage-shows-true-

extent-of-serbia-albania-violence-070408521.html?cmp=ukfb

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Long-running tensions between the two countries were the backdrop to some of the most shocking

scenes seen on a European football pitch for many seasons, with the match called off at 0-0

following a brawl on the pitch.

Fans then attacked Albania's players as they desperately made their way off the pitch, sprinting

down the tunnel as objects were hurled at them and Serbian fans went for them.

The flashpoint was the appearance of a drone carrying a flag of 'Greater Albania' which was torn

down by Serbia defender Stefan Mitrovic.

Now fresh fan footage has emerged of the brawl. You can see it from the above link.

…Continued from Page 20

The video starts with Albania's players wrestling

the flag from Mitrovic and striker Bekin Balaj

racing away to take it to the touchline.

Then Balaj is struck by a plastic chair,

seemingly by a Serbia fan who has entered the

field of play.

That sparks a violent brawl between both sets

of players, match officials and spectators.

Manchester City star Aleksandar Kolarov,

wearing Serbia's No. 11 shirt, tries to calm

things down by warding Albania players away

from the fracas.

As more and more Serbia fans start to enter

the field of play to confront the travelling

players, the Albanian squad and staff realise

it's time to make a hasty exit and start sprinting

for the tunnel.

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…Continued from Page 21

Riot police then move in to help some of the

last remaining Albanians from exiting the field

of play intact.

As the Albania fans approach the tunnel

missiles begin to be hurled at them.

As they pile into the tunnel, a Serbian fan

comes across to kick them.

http://www.dutchreferee.com/12-players-sent-off-in-argentina/

12 Players sent off in Argentinian Match Spotted by Jerzy Debrowski and Fez Barnard

12 players sent off in Argentinian 3rd league match. That’s not how football should be.

Deportivo Roca’s played Cipolletti and a player was fouled. The referee gave a yellow card for the

offence, but the ‘victim’ got mad and got sent off. The offender kept protesting and receives his

second yellow.

Okay, two reds let’s continue now, you might think. Then problems started when the one red-

carded player tries to chase the other before he went to the dressing room. A big brawl involving

players, substitutes and riot police started.

According to Argentine media, referee Facundo Espinosa told them that he had sent off 10 further

players in the chaos and they would be named in his official report.

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http://www.dutchreferee.com/offside-position-from-a-corner-kick/

Can you be offside from a corner? !! Spotted by Fez Barnard

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This referee thinks to give a throw-in, but then takes his AR’s signal for offside…which is not

possible from a corner kick (or goal-kick or throw-in). Would you go with your AR or overrule him?

An almost unbelievable video – watch it looking for whatever it is that the assistant has surely really

spotted…but there’s nothing! He really has given offside from a corner!

Corner is taken

Ball clips defender and goes into touch on the

far side. Referee signals attacking throw-in.

Assistant unbelievably signals offside!

Ball floats across the area

Realisation dawns – cue happy defenders and bemused attackers!

Referee confers with assistant and signals for

the offside – indirect free kick

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https://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/blogs/early-doors/footballer-banned-for-50---fifty---years-

after-referee-incident-094530693.html

Footballer banned for 50 - FIFTY -

years after referee incident Spotted by Neil Sitch

A footballer has incurred a 50-year ban after some crazy full-time drama.

Ferreira, according to Swiss newspaper Blick, kicked the ball in the referee's face and then

proceeded to spray him with water.

That response came while he was busy hurling insults at the official as he left to depart down the

tunnel at full-time.

As for why the ban is so long for the offence, the lawyer of Switzerland's amateur football league

attempted to explain.

"We do not want such a player in our league,” said Robert Breiter, the lawyer of Switzerland’s

amateur football league.

"Unfortunately we encounter such cases about once a year."

As for Ferreira, he was left utterly bewildered by the whole situation and was left sounding pretty

distraught.

"I had expected one or two years maximum. But 50 years? Football’s my life," he said.

Given that football is his life, it's perhaps a shame that he has not been able to control his emotions

so he can continue to participate in the sport.

It is not the first time for the volatile player, who was once banned for 45 matches after being found

guilty of assaulting opposition players and abusing officials.

His new suspension means that he will be free to return to football on June 5, 2064, when he will

be at the ripe old age of 78. Maybe he will have found some self-control by that stage of his life.

A footballer in Switzerland has been slapped with a

50-year ban from playing the game after a

remarkable incident with a referee.

Ricardo Ferreira of Portugal Futebol Clube was an

unused substitute for his side in their 1-0 defeat by

SC Worb in the Bern league, but he still managed

to make quite an impact.

A colleague said to me, “Could you be any more annoying?”

So the next day I wore tap shoes to work!

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http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/oct/29/fa-official-banned-female-referee

FA official banned for telling female

referee her place was ‘in the kitchen’ Spotted by Fez Barnard

• Northumberland FA vice-president banned for four months

• John Cummings also fined £250 for remarks made in March

• ‘All the time I’m alive, a woman will never referee my league’

personally but all the time I’m alive, a woman will never referee in my league.”

An independent FA regulatory commission ruled that Cummings was guilty of a breach of FA rules

relating to “abusive and/or insulting language”, aggravated because of a reference to gender. He

has the option to appeal against his punishment, which comprises the four-month ban, a £250 fine

and attending an education programme.

Cummings initially denied a conversation with May had taken place, but reportedly told FA

investigators: “It’s a standing joke with me. I mean, a woman’s place is in the home and everything

so what difference does it make saying it in front of all her colleagues? She should obviously

realise it’s a joke.”

The Northumberland FA’s chief executive officer, Clive Oliver, said in a statement: “All participants

in sport have the right of appeal and whilst this window is still open we cannot comment on

individual cases. However I and Northumberland FA fully support anti-discrimination in all forms

which has no place in sport [sic]. Football is an inclusive environment open to all.”

The Northumberland County FA vice-president, John

Cummings, has been suspended for four months for

telling a female referee “a woman’s place is in the

kitchen and not on a football field”.

Cummings made the remarks to Lucy May, a referee

development officer, at a referee workshop event in

March when she asked about the possibility of

officiating in the North East Sunday League.

The BBC reported Cummings told May she “wouldn’t

be able to handle it ..… It’s nothing against you

“Is it me or does the pitch seem really big? It certainly looks

bigger than when we were here last year – but then we were

sitting further away!

Clive Tyldesley – all confused whilst commentating on Arsenal’s match

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CONTACTS – 2014 / 2015

President Grant Sheavyn [email protected]

Vice President John Kasey 020 8394 2968

Vice President Peter Watson 020 8393 9989

Chairman Grant Sheavyn [email protected]

Vice Chairman Rod van Niekerk 07976 545874

Hon. Secretary Simeon Potter 020 8661 1555

Hon. Treasurer Keith Rodger 020 8786 7410

Training Officers Peter Watson 020 8393 9989

John Martin 020 8641 0501

Roger Dunning

Dolapo Odujinrin

R.A. Delegates John Kasey 020 8394 2968

Keith Glover 020 8786 0545

Magazine Editor Mike Coen 07930 668432

Supplies Officer Mike Ewing 020 8644 7225

Retention Officer Neil Sitch 07902 651343

Sutton United Liaison officer Simeon Potter 020 8661 1555

Hon. Auditors Ms B M Lisney, MAAT

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Sutton & District Referee Society

Minutes of October Meeting that took place on 8th October, 2014 at Sutton Utd FC

Chairman

Grant opened the meeting and welcomed all in attendance. Apologies were made regarding our intended guest speaker

Steve Bennett pulling out earlier in the day due to being delayed on an oversea business trip.

Apologies for Absence

Received from: Keith Slaughter, Aaron Goodwin, Peter Sullivan.

Minutes of Previous Meeting

These had been circulated in Touchlines and proposed as true copy by Mike Coen and seconded by Roger Dunning.

Hon Secretary`s Report/Correspondence

The Secretary made the following mention of corres :

• When you are unable to referee a match please advise as early as you can, both the County and your League Referee

Secretary.

The County should be advised by emailing [email protected]

Please state the date/s you are unavailable and the reason:

1. Football 2. Injury 3. Personal reasons.

Option No. 1 - Football - would be when you have given a date to the FA or to your league. For County Cups your

League will advise Rod Wood whether you are available.

Please do not give the same dates to various leagues. If this occurs, one league may offer you for a League/County

match leaving the other league in difficulties.

A simple e-mail will help all work more efficiently.

• Caution and Send-Off Reports can now be completed on-line using the “Whole Game System” website. This is

available now to use. Reports for “Misconduct” is currently not available. Surrey FA will be sending out shortly an E-zine

explaining how it can be used and a user guide can also be downloaded from the Whole Game website.

• County Handbooks should be with you, if you have not received a copy, please advise the county office.

• Please help Mike to help you in producing the best referee magazine out there by bombarding Mike with anything to do

with refereeing. The more the better.

• Howard Webb to speak at the annual Surrey RAFA Referees' Event at Imber Court on October 23rd. To book your

place, please email [email protected] as places are limited.

Hon Treasurer

Sutton & District Referees Society Treasurer's Report as at 1 October 2014

Opening balance at 1 April 2014 £1,705.33

Income since annual report £1,245.00

Expenditure since annual report £1,117.00

Society's Current Balance £1,833.33

Notes: No major changes since September report.

Membership: Currently 40 members including 2 youth members.

Physio Care take-up stands at 4/40 (10%).

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Training Officers Report

Peter mentioned the first course will commence this weekend at the new venue - Sutton Cricket Club.

Supplies Officer

Current Stock £148.05 Cash £19.95 with a balance of £168.00

Mike stated he is still awaiting Kits to be delivered and is chasing the new supplier.

Magazine Editor

Mike said October’s edition was a smaller version than normal and issued a plea to all to provide more copy.

RA Delegates Report

Keith said that the main RA web-site was now up and running. Also it was discussed at the last Delegates’ meeting that

the Surrey County Fees will remain at the current rates.

Reminder to referees that Black kits only are to be worn.

It was also mentioned that the FA are proposing that FA instructors pay £800 to renew their licenses.

Retention Officer Report

Neil is going through current and past membership to drum up more members.

Any Other Business

None.

DATE: 08th October, 2014 CHAIRMAN

Dates for the Diary November, 2014

Wed 12th @ 7:30pm Sutton Society Meeting @ Sutton Utd FC Guest Speaker: Gordon Harrison - Contributory / County Assessor

December, 2014

Wed 10th @ 7:30pm Sutton Society Meeting @ Sutton Utd FC Quiz Night

January, 2015

Wed 14th @ 7:30pm Sutton Society Meeting @ Sutton Utd FC Guest Speaker: David Elleray - Honorary President of the Referees‘

Association of England and a FIFA and UEFA referee assessor and instructor

Thu 29th @ 7:15pm Surrey Level 3 & 4 Referees Training @ County Office, Leatherhead For referees not in the development group and with no formal mentor.

February, 2015

Wed 11th @ 7:30pm Sutton Society Meeting @ Sutton Utd FC Guest Speaker: David Hutchinson - Head of Surrey Development Groups

March, 2015

Wed 11th @ 7:30pm Sutton Society Meeting @ Sutton Utd FC Guest Speaker: The Reverend Clive Potter - Surrey County FA Chaplain

April, 2015

Wed 8th @ 7:30pm Sutton Society Meeting @ Sutton Utd FC AGM