1 making peace with the pieces caught between secondary and post-secondary education judy whitaker...
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Making Peace with the
PiecesCaught Between Secondary
and Post-secondary Education
Judy WhitakerConcurrent Enrollment CoordinatorTaylorsville High School5225 S. Redwood Rd.Salt Lake City, UT [email protected]
Peggy SadlerConcurrent Enrollment Acting DirectorSalt Lake Community College4600 S. Redwood Rd.Salt Lake City, UT [email protected]
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INTERNAL ISSUES
Secondary Ed:Elitism among CE teachersAP vs. ConcurrentFunding differencesClass size differencesHierarchy of authority
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INTERNAL ISSUES
Post-secondary Ed:Different degrees of support for CE among departmentsPoor communication of curriculum changesSlow processing of paperworkLack of empathy for secondary ed. constraints
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FACULTY AUTHORITY
Secondary Ed: District & state office make decisions, control curriculum District policy & budget determine how frequently textbooks can be changed
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FACULTY AUTHORITY
Post-secondary Ed: Faculty make decisions, control curriculum Faculty choose the textbooks, text changes every 2 yearsFaculty can change teacher credential requirements
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SOURCES OF CURRICULUM
Secondary Ed GE classes: State Core Curriculum must be taughtSecondary Ed ATE classes: state office determines competencies
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SOURCES OF CURRICULUM
Post-secondary GE classes: curriculum determined by state-wide committeesPost-secondary ATE classes: curriculum determined by Program Advisory Committees
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RIGHT OR PRIVILEGE?
K-12 must keep students in classStudents are required by law to attendCitizenship grades affect graduation
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RIGHT OR PRIVILEGE?
Post-secondary students pay for the privilege of attending Most classes don’t require attendance
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ACADEMIC STANDARDS
To which set of rules do teachers and students adhere in cases of behavior problems, cheating?Grades must be the same in both records
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CLASS SIZE RESTRICTIONS
Secondary Ed: must have MINIMUM 38 students in each class to be cost-effective
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CLASS SIZE RESTRICTIONS
Post-secondary Ed: enrollment restrictions maximum 25 or 30 students in English & language classes
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SCHEDULING
High school registration in Feb. & Mar. for following fall. A lot will change in a year.
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SCHEDULING
Semester start and end datesGrading deadlinesAdmission & registration deadlines
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ADMISSION REQUIREMENTS
Secondary teachers and students comply with post-secondary proceduresSome have GPA requirements for students enrolling in CE
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ADMISSION REQUIREMENTS
Post-secondary departments are not sympathetic with secondary circumstances Placement Testing, Admission Requirements aren’t flexible
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ACCOUNTABILITY
Secondary Ed is accountable to parents, with midterm reports, grades, etc.
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ACCOUNTABILITY
Post-secondary Ed can’t give out grades or student schedules to parents
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MATURITY OF STUDENTS
High school students change classes, don’t withdraw from collegeHigh school students expect college credit even if they’re not properly registered or don’t complete the classDon’t understand they’re generating a permanent college record
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SOLUTIONS
Communication with high school administratorsCommunication with high school teachersCommunication with college administratorsCommunication with studentsCommunication with parents
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SOLUTIONS
Case by case teacher approvalCase by case student appealsCase by case exceptions to the rulesCase by case academic dishonestyCase by case course approval
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Making Peace with the Pieces
Thank you