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Zero Limits Retreat: Audio 2

Jan. 19 21, 2007

Hosted by Dr. Joe Vitale & Dr. Ihaleakala Hew Len

Joe: Now, this is where I get a LITTLE bit wary, because I have said all of what I

believe and all of what I think and I am going to bring HIM up. [Chuckling]

Audience: [A few chuckles]

Joe: First, I dont even know if hes been LISTENING! Then, second, I am real

curious what hes got to say. Are you ready for him?

Audience: Yep.

Joe: Dr. Hew Len!

Audience: [Clapping]

Dr. Hew Len: So, I am going to draw on the boards three states of mind. Okay? They tell me

I can erase this stuff.


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I am going to draw three states of minds. Now, the thing that I want you to be

CLEAR about is that you are always present. The present is YOU, called Zero

or the Void. What you want to know is that everything is made from this

Void. There is nothing that.... So the very essence of your Being, and not the

Cosmos, is Void or Zero. So, you can only be in three states at any given time.

So, I am just going to draw this line. Okay?

So here you are when you are first created at the beginning of creation, zero.

Then, the next thing that occurred almost instantly is inspiration. Now, if you

look at all of science, one of the things that youll find out is that science

STILL DOES NOT KNOW HOW life began. So, when you look at the

genetics of life, you are looking at chemicals, but you are NOT looking at the

ESSENCE of it all. So, now, science is saying, Okay, here are the genetics of

whatever is going on, but in ESSENCE, if you ask the scientist, What is

life? Everybody...and everybody is kind of like, Um, I dont know!

The other state of being...this is called Inspiration. This is called INPIRE.

Inspire means to have it DRAWN IN.

Then, the other one is MEMORY or DATA, Information. Now, I want you to

know that this is Information. This is Info. This is the info. Okay? So, there

are only three states of mind, and you belong to all of them. This is you. This

is you. This is YOU!


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Now, when you are inspired, this is coming from The Infinite...God or

whoever or whatever you want to call it. So as soon as that comes out of this

Nothingness, this can ONLY come out of Nothingness. So, when you are at

Zero, INSTANTLY this Inspire or this breath comes in. Its the fusion of the

minds. This is directly from the Information coming directly from The Source.

Then, what happens is this plays and the mind mimics or echoes. So, now,

inspiration comes down, the mind echoes this Inspiration and it follows it. It

cant do anything else but follow this.

So, the other state is the State of Memory. Memory is what Shakespeare

called fore-be-moan moan. Its a record of a past history of a past problem, a

past occurrence. So, its fore-be-moan moan. So now, your mind...this hits

your mind and your mind MIMICS this memory, so it REPLAYS the

memory.

So, mind follows only TWO LAWS. There are only two laws and if you go to

The Bible, the laws are called Lords. But there are only two Laws, the Law of

Inspiration and the Law of Memory; and THESE are the two states that dictate

what you are about, what you experience. Thats all there is...just THESE two

states. So, when you are zero, you are absolutely silent.


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At this thing over here, there are no problems, no desires, no nothing. Zilch!

At this state, its an echo. The Inspiration comes in from Divinity. Now you

are going to fulfill that which you are created to do, by this Inspiration. So,

Divinity is actually coming in saying, HERE is what you are all about, and

youll just FOLLOW it! You wont even think about it [Chuckle]. You wont

even know...Its a LAW that you follow. But, you CAN NOT SERVE two

masters! You cant! Its either you are going to go with ONE or you are going

to go with the other. You cant serve two at the same time. Its important for

you to know that. But, you are always present. I want you to know. You are

always present. You are NEVER not there! [Chuckle] This is SO

PROFOUND!!

You wont...all the training that I got when I was a Ph.D. The school I went to

it was heavy into statistics, all of that. Now, I am NOT SAYING that it was

bad, but thats the training that I got. But, nobody said to me I was 100%

responsible. So, you SEE this. Now, I am going to show you what happens

here.

So now, Inspiration comes and you SEE with the eye of Inspiration. You see

as God sees and you are only AWED!! You go, WOW!!!

So, now you are actually seeing, because you were blind at the beginning.

This is love. Love is blind. It has no judgment, no right. It doesnt say, You


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have to say love this way. You have to.... There is NONE of that. Thats all

MADE-UP stuff. When you are yourself, you are blind. So, this is why

Shakespeare writing the tragedies, the comedies, the sonnets are SO

BEAUTIFUL, because this is what ALL of Shakespeare is about -- either you

are yourself or you are not. So you read, Lyre, Hamlet...yeah.

So, here you are, but you are still there. You are BLIND. That means that your

mind is absolutely STILL. It means they have no barriers. You are everywhere

and nowhere at the same time. Then, out of this Void this Nothingness comes

the Breathe of The Divinity, what the Hawaiians call The Ha. This is the

first word in Hawaii. So, Hawaii, is really the breath...what it stands for is,

The breath and the water of The Divinity. Thats what the word Hawaii

means.

But, there you are. So, here is the FIRST state of mind, Zero. Here is the

second state of mind. Then, here is the third state of mind. There are ONLY

three states. The Intellect can argue all at once, but there are only three states

of mind. So, now you are seeing out of memory, so youve got your shades

on, which means, you DO NOT SEE DIVINITY would see that person or that

situation and you are STUCK. Here you are.

Now, what you want to do is THE REASON that you WANT to do this

CLEANING is you want to RETURN to the ORIGINAL STATE. So, this is


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your enemy or your opponent and YOU put it there. So, it creates BLOCKS.

So, it creates a WALL between you and yourself and The Divinity.

Now, I want to tell you a little bit about this, so you can appreciate who you

are. Its called the Z State. That means everything that is PERFECT FOR

YOU is ALREADY IN YOU!! You dont have to be more smart! You dont

need more education. You dont need ANYTHING!! What you need to do is

to get your OPPONENT out of the way.

Thats all you are here to do! To be yourself, so that THEN you can be

inspired! There is nothing else that you are here to do.

But to take this opponent which you have put there...this what you call, Love

your enemies. So, a way to DEAL with this is, I LOVE YOU! BE

GRATEFUL to your enemies, THANK YOU! But, your enemies are just

the memories between you and God. So, here is YOU and here is The Infinite.

So, this memory...these memories are against you and The Divinity in you.

So, I want to pause to see if you have any plans, because we are getting ready

for lunch in a few minutes. Okay.

Bruce: I have a question, Dr. Len.


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Dr. Hew Len: Yes?

Bruce: I have a hard time remembering things.

Dr. Hew Len: Yes.

Bruce: Is that because I am clearing...I am cleaning?

Dr. Hew Len: Could BE AND if you are saying to yourself, I have a hard time

remembering things. Its just a memory. Alzheimers and all of that...I am

going to show you the relationship between the mind and the body, but I want

to make sure that you are CLEAR on this, because as long as you know who

you are, you are Z: perfect, whole, complete. You dont NEED more

education. You dont NEED...and if you get more education, its because you

are going to be Inspired. You are not going to get it because you NEED it!!

We always come from NEED...we NEED THAT!!

You can hear The Universe laugh, HA! What a bunch of...

Yeah, so NOW, the idea is that when you are at THIS state you are

ABSOLUTELY quiet: no struggle, no right, no wrong, no intentions, no

desires, no nothing. This is called the absolute. So, you are ABSOLUTELY


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SILENT. Your mind...you COULDNT BELIEVE what it feels...and YOU

CANT GRASP THIS, by the way!!

You cant understand Zero. You cant say, Well, HERES what it is!

Because why can you not grasp Zero? Why cant you grasp Zero?

Female: Ah! Because Zero is...when you drill down to it, there is nothing there.

Dr. Hew Len: Oh, but why cant you grasp nothing?

Female: Because its not there!

Dr. Hew Len: Yeah! Because if you try to grasp nothing you are going to try to grasp it with

memory. But you cant...

Female: Once you bring memory in, its not your....

Dr. Hew Len: You cant grasp God or Zero with memory. This is why Divinity said, This is

KNOWLEDGE. This is Knowledge, this is what Man uses. This is

Inspiration, this is called Wisdom. I want to tell you the difference between

the two, knowledge...wisdom. When I was training with a Ph.D.; knowledge.

Divinity said, I can train you; wisdom.


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Thats whats available to YOU! How WONDERFUL and it doesnt matter

WHO you ARE!! It doesnt matter because who you are is Zero! No religion.

No sex. No color. No nothing! Those things are not important! Did you know

that? Color, sex, religion...none of that is important to The Divinity. What is

important is LOVE and thats WHO YOU ARE!

So, I am going to pause...because I can see some bubbles come up....and we

are going to try to clear the air. If you would be willing to say, Thank you. I

love you, because the questions come up. Yes, Maam?

Jillian: If I am in the presence of another person or I have another person in my mind

and either that person is experiencing a problem that I am resonating with OR

I am having a conflict with that person, I just have a question about the four

phrases. Am I saying, I love you, to The Divine in BOTH of us? I forgive

you. Is it...I am just working on myself in the presence of this other person.

Dr. Hew Len: Thats great. So, lets ask these wise people around you. Lets ask our friend

how he would answer that. Now, REMEMBER...we get to clean. This is

ONLY about cleaning. If you think that you know...this is the RUBBISH that

is coming up that we get to work on.

Some of you are already like, Ive got a comment to make.


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Im going, Oh, geesh...Oh, sorry. Yeah, go ahead.

Dempsey: Tell me the question again.

Dr. Hew Len: [Laughing]

Audience: [Laughing]

Dempsey: Im sorry, but I want to be CLEAR on that.


Dempsey: I mean, is she saying it for BOTH?

Dr. Hew Len: No, what she is saying to YOU is, Ah, I get to clean this. [Pause] Did you

hear what I said?

Dempsey: Yes.

Dr. Hew Len: She is saying to you, I am giving you an opportunity.


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You guessed it, you go, Oh, I love you. Thank you. Clean it up! Because if

you engage it, it will get worse! [Grumbling] They call this Marriage

Counseling.


Dr. Hew Len: Blah! [Grumbling]


Dr. Hew Len: We ALL get rich except the people who need the help. But, now, I am going

to come back and answer a question, but the rest of us should be cleaning.

Thats how we are going to get out of this stuff. If we dont clean, we are

going to be stuck with this. This is a memory that is playing and its

ANCIENT!! Memory is saying, Whos God? [Chuckling] She may not be

THINKING that, but thats whats up. I mean, which? Where?

So, I am going to take you back to a CELL so you get to see how

BEAUTIFUL this is. So, I am going to erase this and thank God I can erase it.

Audience: [Some chuckling]


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Dr. Hew Len: This is called an eraser. So, now I am going to erase it. [Erasing sounds] This

is zillions and zillions of memories. I am not just erasing the board! I am

erasing things from memory banks! So, I want you to know that. It isnt like I

am just up here erasing things. Okay.

Female: I want you to feel the vibration on this table. Are you feeling that?

Dr. Hew Len: I have NO IDEA. We can clean with that. Yeah. [Chuckling]

Audience: [Chuckling]

Dr. Hew Len: Its going to be OLD STUFF. You are going to go, OH! Ive heard that

before. Ive got to clean on that. But, I tell you, thats the only way that you

are going to get out of the hole.

So, lets look at this. Lets call this a cell. If you know anything about any

SIMPLE genetics you know that one cell holds all of the DATA that will

create the body. It just DOES. Anybody not clear about that? Oh, okay. But, I

want to tell you, this cell is in effect. Its not REAL.

Huh?



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Dr. Hew Len: Its not REAL! So I am going to let you STAY WITH THIS, let it sort of

borrow into you and then youll reject it, but I am going to leave it there. Then

I am going to show you what I am driving at. Youve already seen this. Okay.

So, what happens is when you are at Zero, the body does not exist, no cell!

Even if its a moment, because you are what? You are Zero! Zero! But this is

a HARD one to buy now, because it feels real. Something is real. But its

NOT real.

Then, Inspiration comes and you say, WOW!

Joe is saying, Wow! I can FEEL IT!

Well, he feels it in his cell, because now the cell has been inspired. Its been

REBORN, made new! This is this thing right here. This is why when Joe

talks, you can feel him lift, because the effect is lifting.

So, what is the definition of a CANCER CELL? Sir? You can make it up, we

dont have to...you know, we are just going to...what is the definition of a

cancer cell?

Man: A cell that wont quit reproducing.


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Dr. Hew Len: Yeah. Anybody else?

Jillian: Out of harmony.

Dr. Hew Len: I am sorry?

Jillian: Its made when you are out of harmony.

Dr. Hew Len: Yeah. Its a cell that is not itself. Its auto tuned and its just going to go crazy.

Its as simple as that. So, it comes back to your mind! When you are at

Zero...GREAT! Then comes this PERFECT Inspiration, but when you are in

Memory, your cells go crazy. They are out of tune. They are out of rhythm.

So, this idea of a cancer cell, if you want to work on cancer, youve got to go

back to the Original Source. So, here is the cell and then around this cell is the

Subconscious. If that cell is inspired, it is because in the Subconscious it

CREATES that! The Inspiration is a cause and it produces a cell called an

effect. But that cell is PERFECT, created in the image of God.

You dont have to understand this now, you can CLEAN with it. I am

watching stuff bubble up.


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Then, what happens...I am talking about YOU now...then what happens is that

I am talking about the MIND. Then, over here, by drawing this line, I am

going to call this the Conscious Mind. Now, the WONDERFUL thing about

the Conscious Mind is it has CHOICE. It can be free. It can decide to be free,

that is to LET GO of memory and return to freedom...thats the choice of the

Conscious Mind. It can be free or it can engage and most of the time it

engages. It comes from right, wrong, up, down, all that sort of stuff, yeah.

But, lets assume now that the Conscious Mind has let go, its Let Go and

Let God, so everything at the Zero...at the Inspire State. So now, up here, up

here is the Super Conscious, The Super Guy, The Super Woman and OUT

HERE in NOWHERE is The Divine. This is called...I am going to call it The

Infinite.

So, I want you to look and to see what CAUSES the effect of the cell is

always the DATA. Its either going to be an M which produces that cell to

be PERFECT OR a Memory is going to come up and that cell is going to go

and will take them on that Memory and go out of tune and you are stuck with

it. You get pains, headaches, back pains, cancer, whatever you want to name

it, thats what youve got. Its only a matter of memory or inspiration.


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So, let me pause to see whether you have any questions. Youll get it. We

have a couple of more days to do this. So, lets see whether you have any

questions, please? Yes, Maam.

Cindy: I notice that I have some PAIN on my right thigh and my mind was asking,

Okay, why is my thigh hurting. I am rubbing it and then immediately I went

to, Thank you. Please forgive me. I am sorry. I love you.

Dr. Hew Len: Yeah.

Cindy: Because what it is describing here is the memory.

Dr. Hew Len: Yep.

Cindy: There is some memory here thats coming up so that I can heal it.

Dr. Hew Len: Yeah. So, the pain that you experienced at the level of the effect is called by a

memory plane.

Cindy: Why?

Dr. Hew Len: Now, if you ask, How come? you are stuck, then you have more stuff stuck.


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Cindy: Oh.

Dr. Hew Len: Or, it could be THIS way [Chuckling] and then it just goes CRAZY and this

CELL just gets WORSE! [Pause]

You want to CLEAN NOW, before you ask any questions. That means its

important, because if you have a question, that means that we are ALL going

to be OUT. I am not trying to discourage you, but youve got to say, Okay, at

LEAST Im going to try, I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you. If

you still have the question you can ask it. But, you should get in the habit of

getting to the cleaning first. Okay. Anybody have a question? Yes, Maam?

Woman: I am cleaning.

Dr. Hew Len: Yes. [Laughing]

Woman: I am cleaning.

Dr. Hew Len: I am hoping SHE is cleaning.

Woman: We are ALL cleaning.

Dr. Hew Len: Yeah.


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Woman: Getting back to the process of cleaning, I do it on a conscious level, but what

about asking the Unconscious to help throughout the day, throughout the

night? Joe kind of alluded to it.

Dr. Hew Len: Yeah, well, I am going to take you through that tomorrow or either that or this

afternoon.

Woman: Oh, okay.

Dr. Hew Len: But, thats perfect, because...instead of The Intellect working alone, if the

Intellect is SMART enough, it will get the computer bank involved.

Woman: Yeah.

Dr. Hew Len: In other words, if it does it CONSISTENTLY, THIS part of you will do it

when you are sleeping, because WHO sleeps? Who sleeps?

Audience: The body! The Conscious. Us.

Dr. Hew Len: The CONSCIOUS MIND sleeps. Its WORN OUT from just being...!



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Dr. Hew Len: Yeah! Worn out! Yes?

Craig: Do you say that the urge to know why and to ask why is to satisfy the memory

instead of waiting for inspiration?

Dr. Hew Len: That could be, but what HAPPENS is that the reason the How come? Why?

comes up, because it only comes up because you have had it before. Its a

replay! Once you STAY in that replay and you keep SEARCHING, like I was

TRAINED TO DO, it just gets WILDER and.... Try to get into a discussion

with somebody about something like politics. It just goes.... Yeah.

Craig: Would you say that was because the conscious mind with the whole diagram

that you showed one part to a million, it just simply is not ABLE to answer

the question, so its just continuing to search? Its just kind of frustrating.

Dr. Hew Len: It does...not only does it NOT ABLE to answer it, but its not aware of

everything else that is going on thats REALLY the problem. The Conscious

Mind has NO AWARENESS of all of this garbage going on. So, I was saying

to my friend Joe when he and I were visiting.

I said, Boy, [excuse my language], the shit is going to hit the fan with this

book.


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Then he comes back the next day and IT HIT! He had one of those emails.

You know, you go, EEAhh!!!


Dr. Hew Len: Well, you can not believe whats going to come next, UNCONSCIOUSLY!!!

You CAN NOT BELIEVE the stuff thats going to hit the fan, unconsciously.

So, can you imagine if only ONE out of one million that you are

CONSCIOUS of, can you imagine the infinite number of stuff underneath

there thats going to hit the fan? [Pause] Its going to HIT IT!!

Female: My goodness, is it WORTH it?

Lady: Is it what?

Dr. Hew Len: But depends on YOU!!!

So, for example, I was saying to Joe, Joe, I want you to send me the names of

ALL of the people who are going to come, SEEN and UNSEEN. So, hes

been sending it to me. Ive been WORKING on whatever I had that will come

at me in this classroom and Ive worked on it for WEEKS! Boy, you can not

BELIEVE the doodoo that came up!!


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Audience: [Loud Laughing]

Dr. Hew Len: I didnt REALIZE that I HAD ALL of THAT STUFF! I thought I was a

GOOD GUY! Im just going to come to Texas GENTLY and then go HOME,

but BOY!!!

So, one of the things that I was saying to Joe...that one of the things that I was

CLEANING on is the memory that the land has of once being Mexico.

Audience: YES!!!

Dr. Hew Len: There is this...I will venture to guess and I am just guessing, Im making it up,

I would venture to guess that in Texas, the number of people on

antidepressants is probably higher per capita than most other states. This stuff

is so POTENT! When I showed up, I am going my...and I had been

CLEANING FOR WEEKS [Chuckling]! It showed up in my room. Im going,

WOW!!! So, I began to work on this, but its SO POTENT! When you lose

an identity, something that belonged to something else now is...belongs to

somebody else and I am not into right and wrong, but nobody says to the land,

And then...? So the land is REALLY confused! So now you have climactic

problems. You have GREAT SWINGS. Well, it comes from confusion! The


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land ITSELF is not aware of who it is unless you and I become 100%

responsible.

So, Texas, I was telling HIM, I can see generations now where Texas would

bloom with grass. I mean, there would be no deserts here. The only reason

that it has this kind of stuff is because its unclear about who it is. Anybody

else? Any questions? Yes?

Woman: When you talked about the cell...

Dr. Hew Len: When you talk about the what?

Woman: The cell.

Dr. Hew Len: Yes.

Woman: The cell is actually...there is more to a cell than just a cell. There is...you can

go deeper into the molecular level of the cell. You mentioned before that ALL

of us in this room are related and when you look at all of humanity we are all

related. So, if we all share memory, then we share memories on a molecular

level, its BEYOND the cell.


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Dr. Hew Len: Yeah, thats what I am saying. But what I am saying to YOU, whereas the cell

is in an effect, you have to go into the computer bank. THATS where we

have shared memory and THAT memory produces a molecular outcome. Its

an effect.

Woman: So, my question is this: there is ONE person in this room thats just recently

been born and what is the memory of that child that is in mind?

Dr. Hew Len: Oh, you have to ask yourself the question, What is IN ME that I HOLD that

to be so? Because you and I have come in with the same memories as she or

it or the baby has. There is no difference!

Woman: There is NO difference?

Dr. Hew Len: Oh, no! As long as...if we dont clean up our self...lets make it a...so we talk

about gigabytes, but Id like to talk about biggybytes. Okay?

So, we ALL carry this common, because we are ALL FAMILY!! So, when

anybody comes in, they come in, if we didnt do enough of our cleaning, then

we are going to come in with problems that if we had been 100% responsible,

they wouldnt come in.


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For example, in this GREAT country of ours, we have the HIGHEST birth

problems of any nation in the world. Why is that? I dont know!! I am just

cleaning up the databank, because thats where its happening. You are

not...no medicine is going to help that. Why wait until the baby is born? Why

cant it be born immaculately? Did you know that babies can be born

immaculately? Crazy! But, you know, thats what Zero IS!

Lets say you however you are doing, you decide you want to have a baby.

You can not BELIEVE what happens as you are cleaning, that you can have a

baby immaculately, if you are at zero, when conception takes place. That baby

will be an incredible being, INCREDIBLE!!! This is why I do my cleaning!

Yeah.

Anybody else? Yes sir?

Male: One of those things that you brought up to me when you talked about memory

of the land once being Mexico, just got me in touch with a much more

conscious level generational memories of me.

Dr. Hew Len: Yes! Yes!

Male: Being an African [inaudible]...


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Dr. Hew Len: Yes! Yeah!

Male: ...just cleaning out all of those memories...

Dr. Hew Len: Oh, wow!

Male: ...and how they still impact you.

Dr. Hew Len: Yes!

Male: I just really got in touch with that.

Dr. Hew Len: Yeah, and its just the memories.

Male: Yes.

Dr. Hew Len: Because as you, again, if you come back to Zero, you are color blind.

Male: Exactly.

Dr. Hew Len: You are religious blind. You are just blind! You dont SEE [chuckling] any of

that stuff and thats where LOVE IS! As opposed to saying, Im a certain

person or a certain religion. You aint got a chance.


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Male: Yeah.

Dr. Hew Len: You HAVENT got a chance! Itll BUMP memories to CRAZY! Thats why I

am saying to Joe Vitale, Boy have we got to be cleaning when THIS book

comes out! Its going to hit the fan...and I think that its GREAT!!! Thats

why I am willing to do it, because if I can get this stuff cleaned up, then you

folks can get on with whatever YOU need to do. Anybody else?

Woman: So, are we living...are we living between three states of mind or periodically

intermittently?

Dr. Hew Len: Yeah, mostly in memory...mostly with stuff with our shades, mostly stuck at

this level. So, what happens is at this level of memory...so, again, you have to

look at cause and effect [marker writing sounds]. You have to look at the...I

am drawing the line between the Subconscious and the Conscious, what you

know, is here.

So, what I am saying is that this memory creates an effect, which creates a

problem, because a memory creates a problem because of why? Its not YOU!

Its not Zero!

Woman: Right!


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Dr. Hew Len: You are at Zero! You are PERFECT!! The memory BLOCKS that. So, this

cleaning is about getting you back to Zero, letting go of all of this stuff, so that

you can be back to Zero. But, it takes, like Joe is saying, it is TEDIOUS!!!

Lady: So, the CAUSE we can actually do that consciously in order now to create a

problem?

Dr. Hew Len: We can do that consciously and say to The Divinity, You know what is

right.

I am just saying my part. I am saying, I am sorry. Please forgive me, and

you will do whatever and I will trust whatever you do.

But now, somebody mentioned, I dont know I forget who it is, you can

actually work with a childs subconscious. You can TEACH that child how to

do the cleaning, so that when you are sleeping or whatever IT will do the

cleaning. It will be PROGRAMMED to do the cleaning. Otherwise, you wont

be able to do it!! What happens when you are asleep? Youre consciousness is

GONE, but the subconscious is ALWAYS awake. Anybody else?

Joe, its twelve.


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Joe: Yeah, I have a question. Yeah, so its twelve. Well be going to lunch here in

one minute. Will the movie be better received then the book?

Dr. Hew Len: I am sorry? [Laughing]


Dr. Hew Len: You see, what I want him to KNOW is that THIS is going to be EARTH

SHAKING and ANY TIME that you have something EARTH SHAKING,

you ALWAYS HAVE A TIDAL WAVE, which is GREAT!!! Which is

great...you WANT it to come up, so that you can GET AT IT!! Its going to

come up like nobodys business, but its a tidal wave. Its a great book!

Female: So, then, can I just say this? From what you just said, I got that conflict or

problems are an OPPORTUNITY...

Dr. Hew Len: Oh, yeah!

Female: ...that they are NOT as WE mere mortals NORMALLY perceive as a

NEGATIVE thing...

Dr. Hew Len: The Intellect.


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Female: The Intellect perceives it as a NEGATIVE thing.

Dr. Hew Len: Yeah.

Female: It is, in fact, a POSITIVE opportunity FOR CLEANING for it to dissipate.

Dr. Hew Len: For YOU to be Zero. But easier...like Joe was saying, Easier said than done.

Female: Easier said than done.

Dr. Hew Len: Intellectually, Okay, I got it! I got it! But wait until the shit hits the fan

[clap]! Gah!!! [Chuckling]

Female: Hopefully the Intellect kicks in and says, Oh, my God, I have done it.

Dr. Hew Len: Oh, no! The Intellect is GONE!! The replay will be SO HUGE that it will

OVERWHELM the Intellect.

Female: Right.

Dr. Hew Len: I mean thats why people go to psychiatric units! Its SO

OVERWHELMING!! Okay, just before I go, Joe, I want you to be aware of

two words while you are eating. Sorry. [Chuckling]


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Dr. Hew Len: I want you to be aware of the word mortuary and the word mortgage!


Dr. Hew Len: Do you know what theyll have in common?

Audience: Yes!!

Dr. Hew Len: What?

Audience: Death! Debt!

Dr. Hew Len: Yeah! You are paying that with the Hooponopono, you are paying down

death and debt. You are paying it down...instead of being STUCK with it and

having it replay and replay. I mean, you are paying down death and debt.

Its like Shakespeare said, Once death is dead, there is no more dying then,

at least with that memory. Yeah.

Joe, please.


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Woman: I have one question.

Joe: She came up earlier.

Dr. Hew Len: I... Yeah, I am REALLY TIRED, so, go ahead.

Woman: What if its a good memory?


Dr. Hew Len: Listen.

Joe: What was the question?

Joe: Listen!

Audience: What if its a good memory?

Dr. Hew Len: This is YOU, perfect! This is your good memory, your stuff, because its not

YOU!!!

Speaker: Its not good or bad, it just is.


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Dr. Hew Len: Thats the way that it is!! So, you have to get to it, so there is some Arabian

saying by some guy named Rumi that says, When something quotes, good

comes along, dont embrace it, kiss it and send it on its way!

Joe: Yes.

Dr. Hew Len: With a little luck, we are going to deal with lunch. We are going to kiss it and

send it on its way.

Joe: Give him a hand!

Audience: [Clapping]

[Pause for Lunch Break]

Joe: Three years ago I came to Florida without a nickel in my pocket and now, Ive

got a nickel in my pocket [the clink of coin heard].

Audience: [Loud Laughing] Alright!

Joe: Groucho Marx.


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Joe: I just opened it up. For colored girls who have considered suicide when the

rainbow is enough. Its the title of a play! I dont know who chose the

quotations [chuckling]. I dont know WHY I chose that one, but I opened it up

to that.

Jillian: Groucho Marx.

Joe: It appears that everybody has a lot of questions, because they are ALL coming

to ME!


Joe: I am sitting at lunch and they are being PASSED over to me, verbally, on

notes....

Woman: Psychically. [Laughing]


Joe: Yeah. Mentally, psychically and so here I am thinking, Ive got a lot of

CLEANSING to do!


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Woman: Oh!

Joe: As I feel like I am carrying the BURDEN here, but I am ALSO getting a lot of

assistance! This WONDERFUL little piece of jewelry was given to me this

morning. Where is...there she is right there. THIS has been POWERFUL!

This has been INCREDIBLE. I mean, it was incredible to just see it as a gift

and I felt a CHARGE when I received it! Are there opals...is that whats on

here? Do you remember?

Female: Cornelian.

Joe: What is it?

Female: Cornelian.

Joe: Cornelian? Is that what its called? I dont know all of the different gems and

so forth.

I DO KNOW that this has been POWERFUL, so I feel like I have been given

ASSISTANCE thats helping me GROUND, because I am feeling a BUZZ

coming from this. I am feeling a BUZZ coming from the energy of the room.

Some people have already talked about this floor as shaking. One person said


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the floor was shaking. Somebody else said that it felt like there was an

earthquake. Somebody else felt that they were dizzy, which I also felt a little

bit of, and they were attributing it to the room or the energy in the room. I

dont know whats going on. Im just cleansing!

Audience: [Chuckle]

Joe: I dont know! ONE of the questions that was coming up was the idea that with

Dr. Hew Len SAYING that when my book comes out, The shits going to hit

the fan, and the email that I got yesterday was only Level One, Level Six is

yet to come. Is that a self-fulfilling prophecy? Sound like a good question?

Audience: Yeah! Quite useful, actually.

Joe: Yeah! So, I am going to answer it intellectually and then see what HE says,

because my understanding is he is doing his best to READ whatever The

Divine is bringing to him.

Now, a long time ago, in one of the seminars I attended with him, the question

came up, How do you KNOW when something that comes through is a

memory or from The Divine, as an Inspiration? How do you know the

difference between a memory and an inspiration? Does anybody know?

[Pause] Yes?


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Male: I believe Dr. Hew Len answered that question before lunch. He said, You

DONT know, just KEEP CLEANING.

Joe: Thats exactly right. You DONT KNOW and thats what he said before,

You dont know!

As I remember I was in a seminar and he picked on ME in that seminar in a

very loving way, but he said, Joe, if somebody gets cancer, how do you know

if that came from their memory or that came from inspiration?

I thought for awhile and I said, Can you say that again?


Joe: [Chuckling] He said, If somebody has CANCER, did they get it from a

memory or did they get if from inspiration? Was it given to them from The

Divine as something to help them along in their journey?

I thought for the LONGEST time, Man, I should have a good answer to this.

But, I didnt! So I said, I dont know!


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He said, Thats right! You dont know! You dont know! You just have to

clean! You dont know.

So, when you say, Dr. Hew Len that this is going to hit warp six or Level Six

and the book...all of this is going to hit the fan, do you want to address is that

a self-fulfilling prophecy?

Dr. Hew Len: Sure, yeah, okay. I want to know who said that. Who asked that question?

Joe: [Laughing] I asked the question!

Dr. Hew Len: Oh, okay. So, have you ever noticed, for example, that animals know an

earthquake is coming before you?

Audience: Yeah. Uh-huh.

Dr. Hew Len: [Chuckle] Why is that? Is that EARTH-fulfilling question?


Bruce: [Laughing the longest]


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Dr. Hew Len: See...Bruce got it! Thats WONDERFUL!! So, wouldnt you want to get

something before it happened and you can PREVENT it from happening?

Well [chuckling] I would!! Why (coming back again) is it that animals pick

these things up before we do? Because we are unconscious! But, they are

close to the Earth. They know how SACRED the Earth is!

This is why my friend Rodney...Rodney, come up here and bring the picture

of the mice or the rat. Now, my friend Rodney takes a picture and hes

looking at this thing.

Im looking at it and I say, Thats a rat! Its a BEAUTIFUL picture!

He said...what are going to have an exhibit saying what?

Rodney: Happy Accidents!

Dr. Hew Len: Happy Accidents. So, this picture that he took is a Happy Accident, but this

picture here is of a little mice. Thank you. What that little mice is saying to

YOU, now that I SEE it come up, is IT knows that the Earthquake is going to

come before YOU! Its not self-fulfilling, its going to HAPPEN! But,

SOMEBODY will pick it up before you, lucky you if they are cleaning.


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So, this notion about self-fulfilling prophecy is again, just memories. You are

either in memory or you are in zero or you are in inspiration. Whats a self-

fulfilling prophecy? Bullshit stuff. Everybody knows thats somethings going

to happen before WE do! The animals start running.

Did you notice, for example, when that earthquake hit, outside of the...I dont

know what happened...before that hitting really came, all of the animals began

to move out! Except who?

Audience: The people.

Dr. Hew Len: The kids. They went down and LOOKED at the ocean and all of this! I mean,

come on! Give us a break! So, there are forces that KNOW that something is

going to happened before it happens! If I was you, I would like to be clean

enough so that YOU can SEE it and you can get the hell out of the way or

clean it up! Yeah. So, this notion about self-fulfilling is really an intellectual

gymnastics. I mean, you are either in or you are out. You are either in rhythm

or you are out. You cant be in and out at the same time! Youll split the

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Dr. Hew Len: Yeah. So, if I were you, I would spend a LOT more time cleaning. When

something comes up, you should be, like my friend here, Gloria, you should

be pushing your foot to the wheel called cleaning!

Lets say we have a discussion about self-fulfilling prophecy. Itll go crazy!

Everybody will have an opinion. All hell will break loose. This is what you

find in psychiatric units! Yeah. People like you are going berserk! We want to

CALM everything down. We have that opportunity to do that by ERASING

this stuff!!! Anybody else with a question? Yes?

Now, we get to CLEAN with this now. This is an unclarity. So, we want to

THANK her for this. Yeah? Yes?

Nerissa: On the subject of being close to the Earth, would you consider the Native

Americans close to the Earth?

Dr. Hew Len: Now, when you say Native Americans I am not sure who you are talking

about, because I mean, thats kind of a general...because theres a whole

bunch of them. But...let me be more specific and I am not clear about what I

am talking about.

But there has been a tribe of Indians, American, that were the only folks as a

people who ULTIMATELY made the apex of Consciousness; which means


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for them, they were SO CLEAR that they could walk through time and space

in different dimensions and not bother them. If you had that happen to you,

youd go CRAZY! Thats what you find in psychiatric units!

People who REALLY CAN SEE AND KNOW, but we think that they are

crazy! Thats why for me it was such a privilege to be in a psychiatric facility

because I could see that they could see and I went, Wow!

Then I had a friend of mine just recently, he is a demolition...he has a

company that breaks things down. So he was invited, had an offer to go to this

psychiatric unit in New Jersey where there was a POSSIBLE job that he

would be taking down so-called Asbestos ceilings. Hes saying that hes in

this ward and ALL of these people going by, I mean like [humming sounds].

He is describing this.

He said, Wow!

His skin was crawling. It was like, he felt like he was in a different dimension.

He did his cleaning. When he did his cleaning, he couldnt hear them

anymore. Everything just...he was in his own place where he needs...where

you are. As long as you are in your own place, everybody else will be,

everything will go quiet, but the idea is...there was, if you asking about THAT

particular Indian tribe there was ONE who went completely to the Apex.


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In fact, if you look at their culture, see...I am hopefully erasing confusion

over here. If you look at this particular culture, in general, the Indians, one of

the things that youll see is that they build something called a Tee-Pee. So, I

am looking at the Tee-Pee from the top down. Have you ever seen a Tee-Pee

from the top down? [Chuckling] Sorry.


Dr. Hew Len: What you do...and would you SEE it...you would see it like that! Now, if you

went to Egypt, where we think its such a big deal, so you go to see THOSE

folks. This was built on what premise? What were the pyramids built on

what premise?

Audience: Was it power?

Dr. Hew Len: Yeah, it was power and glory! But, the Indians had a different take. They

werent interested in power and glory. They were interested in the SPIRT! So,

THEY did come in because they were inspired, because the circle means

what? Completion!! Completion!! So this notion that...you are getting

this...but, see, we think that...one of the things that you will see if you actually

trace them, when they are gone they are gone! These things GO!! [Laughing]

They go! Sorry.


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Dr. Hew Len: The Indians have SUCH a LOVE for the EARTH, that when they went,

everything went. You dont see any monument. We Americans are big on

monuments, but the Indians were for the land. It was Sacred, so they left

NOTHING behind, which is GREAT!! When they were done, they were

done! So this idea with the Indians, this CONSCIOUSNESS, this completion,

this ability to actually...they used CORN as the ability to touch the Cosmos.

They used the Redwood to touch the Cosmos. For them, they were cleaning

tools. So, their Consciousness was SO COMPLETE, it was just mind

boggling.

Thats something that perhaps you and I would have difficulty to be in that

state of conscious and being everywhere at once. I mean, you are here, there,

like the Picasso pictures? You ear is there, your nose is...I mean. Thats how

goofy you could be in this so called consciousness in which nothing logical,

linear exists and thats where YOU want to be. Thats where I want to show

you that YOU can go. You can go and be everywhere and nowhere at once.

Yet, thats the only reason why I am here is to show you something that you

already know, already have, its already yours.


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I am just saying, Hello! [Chuckling] This is YOU! When you are YOU,

complete, whole, you are everywhere and nowhere at once! You are FREE!

As opposed to being stuck in, I know. I believe. This is just...its crazy! But

to get it back to zero, its a TOUGH place to go!

The ultimate goal/purpose is to go HOME! When you are HOME, that means

that you are at home with yourself. Its like if you read likeHamlet, Hamlet is

accused by Laertes that he DID something.

Hamlet is saying, No, I didnt do it! Its my memory that did it! Not me.

Hes still responsible, but he was CLEAR enough to know that he didnt

offend Laertes, not HIM, the MEMORY offended him, but he was

RESPONSIBLE for that.

Now, if you want to know the other person as God created the other person,

you can ONLY know the other person from Zero, from yourself. There is no

other way that you can know the person. You can not grasp the other person

with a memory. Its not possible. Its NOT possible. You can not grasp

knowledge and wisdom. You cant! You cant hold...once you are stuck in

memory, you are stuck in time, place, and emotions. You are stuck!! But, once

you get RID of it, once you do your cleaning and get rid of it, now you are


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back to yourself and Divinity shows up and you get reborn! Thats what

Inspiration is...is to be reborn, made new again. Yeah.

Thats all we are going to do today. I am going to show you some cleaning

tools in which you can do that. Any questions? [Pause] Wow!! You should

have more lunch!!


Dr. Hew Len: Im sorry. Yes?

Nerissa: Is...the sense that I get from what you are saying is that we are going back to a

place of endless possibilities where we dont allow our emotions, our

memories, our beliefs...all the things that weve been taught, influence

whatever comes to us so that we are more free thinking, that we are not bound

by the limitations that we believe that we have.

Dr. Hew Len: Yeah. To be more accurate, we have created, accepted, and accumulated. You

and me are responsible. Our parents didnt do it to us, nobody did it to us. We

didnt LEARN from it. We CAME IN WITH IT!!

Nerissa: We came in with it?


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Dr. Hew Len: YES!! So, the question is we are LOADED!! So, now, how do we...how are

we...are we willing to say, I am willing to Let Go and Let God? If you are

willing to do that and you dont have to know anything, because to know

something is to have knowledge? You want wisdom! The only way that you

are going to get to this wisdom is you have to Let Go and Let God. What is

that that you are letting go? Who knows? Who knows?

Ill give you an example. There was a family that came from Africa to take the

class in Maui that I did recently in November. So, to make the story short,

they were concerned...the mother and the father and the sister were concerned

that their son or their brother was on Cocaine and all of that sort of stuff. Now,

do you know what Cocaine will do to you?

Nerissa: Ive never done it.

Dr. Hew Len: I know, but do you know...so...but you dont WANT to know.

Nerissa: No.

Dr. Hew Len: No. But now, when that happens is that when somebody is in that state, what

do WE do? We try to SAVE them! Not possible!! We have to save our own

butts! If we save our own butts, THEY will be fine.


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Nerissa: Thats what they say.

Dr. Hew Len: Guarantee!!! Its that old Biblical saying, Youve got to take the moat out of

your OWN eye before you take it out of your brothers eye. Youve got to do

it!! There is no way out!! Because what you are seeing is always seeing with

dark glasses. You NEVER see correctly. [Pause] I want to let you know that

the Intellect is SO POTENT...POTENT!!!

It says this. It says that. It says, How come? It asks questions and then it

goes on, but the Intellect is only replaying Data! To let it go is tough!! The

intellect will struggle. It will KILL you rather than give it up. Did you know

that? Thats why we have wars. [Pause]

But nobody dies! Did you know that? Nobody dies. I mean, if you

experience...I guess I better watch what I...I am SAFE with this...huh? Yeah! I

am safe. So, heres death. I am going to put death on the board. Thats it! But

YOU can not die!!! Its not possible. You can experience death, but you cant

die; that which God created whole and perfect. That perfect part of you can

not die. How WONDERFUL!!! But you can experience death. But, its just a

LOUSY memory!!

Now, we can get through all of the patterns like tug and pull because the

Intellect is...I am not saying dont do it, but the Intellect is ferocious. It will


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eat you up. This is why for ME that it is DANGEROUS to do these kinds of

classes, you know? Yeah. Im surprised even JOE will do it! You know? So,

having SAID all of that, any questions about anything? Because I am going to

go into another cleaning tool.

Yes, Joseph?

Joe: How did you handle the people that came to you with the son that had

Cocaine problems?

Dr. Hew Len: Very simple. I just did my cleaning.

Joe: But when they came to you, were you quiet? Did you talk to them?

Dr. Hew Len: Heres what happens. So I am going to show you the mechanics of what

happens. So, I want you to know that there is only one...there are no two or

three Gods, like in the Greeks. The Greeks had MANY Gods. The Romans

had many. But for YOU or at least the pitch that I am going to make, you only

have ONE Divinity.

So now here is this person that I am going to call the Papa. [Marker /

Drawing sounds] Here is me to keep it simple. So, in the beginning when we

were created we were created perfect, see? Zero which...zero means, nothing


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happening...pure at state of bliss, kind of like nothing to do, dont have to

work, dont have to earn a living, dont have to worry about being in a

relationship. What? No relationship?


Dr. Hew Len: You are FREE!! This is the way that you will always be. Now, the

PROBLEM is...so, now the Papa shows up in my life and this is me

[Marker/Drawing sounds].

Papa says to me, My son has this problem.

Well, the reason that Papa is saying it is because we have memories in

common...as simple as that! Papa wouldnt tell me that if I was free and he

was free. Hed tell it to somebody else! But, there I am. I am stuck!! So,

now...what happens is...you can do what with it? [Pause] What can you do

with this if you were me?

Nerissa: Take it up to The Divine.

Dr. Hew Len: Okay, but whats the USUAL route to go?

Male: Erase it.


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Dr. Hew Len: Whats the USUAL route?

Audience: To try to FIX it! To fix it!

Dr. Hew Len: Yeah! [Chuckling] The idea is that you are going to try to say, Well, how

come? Why? I mean, you know, but what you dont REALIZE is that

BEHIND the Papa is zillions and zillions and zillions and zillions of family

relatives and ancestors. So, if you take Papa on, you are taking them ALL on.

This is how...if you do it, if you are going to clean, if you do it to them, you

are going to be burned to the max. You are taking on [chuckle] a whole slew

of people.

Because the WAY to do it is VERY SIMPLE, so if you say...you are willing

to be one 100% responsible, Whats going on in ME that I should experience

THIS with the father? Well, you go very simple!

So now, the Conscious Mind...this is the Conscious, this is the subconscious,

youve got to pay attention, because I am talking about ME and YOU! So,

now, the Conscious Mind has said, Uh-oh! What is going on in ME that I

experience this? Not, Whats HIS problem? Have you noticed we are

always saying, What is the other person problem? Not here in Texas, only

in Hawaii?


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Dr. Hew Len: Yeah. Whats his problem?

Okay, so NOW I do the cleaning. Lets do the cleaning called, I love you! I

love you! Thats the Conscious Mind that has decided its going to be one

100% responsible. As you remember, when I said I love you what is

involved in that? What are the elements involved as repent, I am sorry,

forgive Please forgive me, and then the transmutation. So, over here I do the

cleaning. I go, I love you. I am sorry. Please forgive me. [Thank you.] The

thing goes DOWN. It NEVER goes up! It always goes DOWN to the

Subconscious because THATS where the problem is, it always goes down.

So, when you make a petition, if you petition directly to The Divinity, it never

works. Its going the wrong way! It HAS to go DOWN into your SOUL

where the problem is. So, now it goes down, it goes UP to the Super

Conscious of the Spirit. Youll get it! The Super Conscious of the Spirit goes

UP. Then it goes up to The Divinity. Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding

and then you say, OH! You are taking responsibility.

So, now what happens is then the Energy called the Manna goes downward, it

goes down this side, spiritually. Thats how it goes. It goes down together

MENTALLY!! So, subconscious...the Conscious Mind is a MENTAL aspect.


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It goes DOWN into the Subconscious. Then it begins a process of...taking that

memory and purifying it, taking it to PURE ENERGY. Just...this is what

Divinity can do and then it leaves it blank. It released it!

So NOW, everything is back to Zero again and if I am willing to keep doing

that, that fellow will be okay, because if you are okay, then everybody else is.

If you are not, then you can tell RIGHT AWAY! Thats the simplicity of it all.

Yes, sir?

Sir: Could you just go back to the...and walk us through that one more time?

Dr. Hew Len: This one?

Sir: That one before it. [Paper turning by Dr. Hew Len heard] That one.

Dr. Hew Len: Yeah. So...problemwhat is the definition of a problem? A memory in the

Subconscious. So, somebody comes and SEES me like when I went to the

hospital. I never worked on anybody. Everybody is perfect. The only thing

that is IMPERFECT is the Data. Thats the imperfection!! Everybody is

perfect. The client is perfect. The berry is perfect. The papa is perfect. I am

perfect. What is imperfect is the data...the information!


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So, when you say, I love you, that begins a process of remedy. It remediates

the problem, which is the memory, so the energy goes DOWN into the

subconscious, goes UP to The Divinity who can transmute or void the

memory, only THIS can do it. Then, it sends out on the Manna both sides

comes down and ERASES both of those and it CUTS the tie and you are

FREE, as you were in the beginning! So, you are free! This working and then

you are free. Once you are free, everything else is free on the Earth.

For example, if you travel and you experience jet lag, jet lag is simply a

memory, THOUSANDS of memory. So, I am going to show you how you can

prevent jet lag. I dont know how many of you travel, but I am going to show

you how to do it. Its very simple to do. But NOW, I am going to show you

that no matter how you travel, you can always BE HOME in yourself and not

experience jet lag! Okay? So, I am going to do that now, unless you have any

questions about how it works. Yes?

Female: I have a question on ME on PRAYER, a petition to God.

Dr. Hew Len: Yeah.

Female: So, that needs to go, I was thinking that its going UPWARD. So, I am

rethinking that now, that it needs to go DOWNWARD then back UP?


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Dr. Hew Len: Yeah, because the Subconscious is the bridge. You have to cross that bridge...

Female: The Subconscious is a bridge to your self [inaudible]? [Sound of paper

turning]

Dr. Hew Len: Yeah, otherwise you leave out an important part of the resources which is this.

This is the most important part of you is that Subconscious. But, if you go UP,

which you cant do it. You would leave that part of you gone, when thats

where the problem is.

Female: Thank you.

Dr. Hew Len: Yeah. Yes?

Woman: On that, is it fair to say that this family that came to see you had this problem

in common withyou or it was a problem you had in common with them?

Dr. Hew Len: Does it make any difference?

Woman: I guess, what I am trying to sort out is...that the two of you came together for a

reason to erase that memory.

Dr. Hew Len: Yes.


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Woman: Once that memory is erased, then the problem for both of you is gone.

Dr. Hew Len: Yes.

Woman: Okay. Even though it wasnt a direct problem for you?

Dr. Hew Len: It IS a direct problem for me.

Woman: But you didnt know it until you....

Dr. Hew Len: Oh, yeah, and thats why I am saying to Joe Vitale. The book is going to go

out and a lot of stuff is going to come up that we dont know that is there.

Woman: That we dont KNOW that it is there.

Dr. Hew Len: Absolutely!

Woman: But if....

Dr. Hew Len: But if we are READY, we can start the cleaning now. So, for example, before

YOU came, I have your name. I work on you, this place, whatever is IN ME

that would come up as CRAP, which means then that the whole training


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would go rather like that, but I AM RESPONSIBLE. I am not going to wait

up on anybody. If I waited up on anybody else, Id be in trouble, because this

table right here is saying, I WANT to be free! But, nobody pays attention to

the table. Did you?

Woman: No.

Dr. Hew Len: Why not?

Woman: Thats a good question.

Dr. Hew Len: Yeah, well, because we dont have an appreciation that everything is Life

forms. Everything breathes! The carpet breathes! The room breathes! We have

a responsibility to set everything free! We are not expecting you to do that!

Thats why I am here. I am here to say, Hello! This room is Sacred!

[Chuckle] We dont want anything undoing it, because if it gets undone, we

are going to be in trouble! Now, I am cleaning. I am watching. I am going,

Uh-oh! This morning, in Los Angeles I heard this particular say, Oh, I

have financial problems! Can you imagine a chair having financial

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Dr. Hew Len: I mean, doesnt that sound crazy? But what happens if YOU sat on it? Youd

have that problem, too.

Woman: I am clearing!



Dr. Hew Len: Yeah!! Yeah!!

Woman: Thank you!

Dr. Hew Len: So, now, if this chair...this is the chair. It has the three cells. If this chair has

that memory, guess what? We ALL have it! We ALL have it! Theres that old

Dumas novel, All for One and One for.....

Audience: ...All.

Dr. Hew Len: If one is out, we are all out. So, the idea is, Hey, get to work. So, when I did

my cleaning, I washed the room, washed the chairs....wow!! The chairs went

crazy!!!


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Male: [Laughing]

Dr. Hew Len: Yes. You cant blame anybody. Who are we going to blame? Nobody! Well,

you have to be one 100% responsible. I am not here to blame. If I blame, I

dont get my work done and then I am crazy. So, its as simple as that.

Problem. Where? In everything. How do you work on it? YOU I love you.

Thank you. Im going to show you some others. The problem, the energy,

The Divinity hears you, Divinity goes UP, erase, erase, takes you back to

HOME AGAIN!

Then, you get what Joe is telling me. HE is getting all of this inspiration to do

this, to do that, and you can do it, too. He is NOT unique. You can do it, too.

Because there are things, for example, Joe...there are things that Joe can do I

can NEVER do. I am not CREATED to do that. But, there are things that I

can do, he cant do, you cant do, but there are things that YOU CAN DO. So,

wouldnt it be nice if we were all friendly? So, we can all get...you know?


Dr. Hew Hen: So we can all get about our business and DO what we came to do! [Pause and

Laughing] Thats all I am here to do is to say, Hello!



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Dr. Hew Len: Lets be friendly. We can all be...yeah, yeah. Yes?

Female: Practically, do you listen to them at the same time that you do, Thank you. I

love you? Do you do it afterwards? Do you teach them to do it?

Dr. Hew Len: I do it day in, day out, coming, going. So, as I went to lunch, I was already

cleaning with the food, the place, the room. When I left this room, I didnt

want to leave any garbage behind, so I did my cleaning with the room, I

watched it. You could kind of see the room kind of stretch, the ceiling Ah!

[Chuckling] Really!! I did it with his camera, the sound system, I did it all!

Because, listen, they are recording you. If you get sent out into the world,

which this thing will do, whatever is out there, youre going to be bombed!!

Did you know that? Whatever you put out, will come back and bomb you!!

Well, I dont want that to happen to me. Well, I dont want it to happen to

YOU folks but [chuckle] I am CLEANING with all of this stuff, so when it

goes out it goes out what? CLEAN!!! It will do its THING!! If it doesnt go

out clean, its HELL to pay for all of us!

I LOVE THIS!!! Because its 100% responsibility [pause] for everything!!!

So, now, Joe is going to put those things out...I mean, we want to make sure if

we go WITH it [Chuckle] we are not going to be slammed by it, because it

will slam us!! This is why the cleaning is so important, because you are


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cutting. Here is the film. Here is you. Here is the film. You do your cleaning.

You cut your tie. The film becomes Zero. You become Zero. It goes out clean.

But, if you dont do your cleaning, it wont go out clean. So, all of this filming

that people are doing, boy, if I were running those things, I would go back and

do all of the cleaning with anything I have ever produced!!! ANYTHING!!!

You can clean with it!! So, anybody? Yes?

Lady: So, Im trying to compare this with recovery programs, twelve-step programs.

There are so many families that are traumatized by loved ones that have

addictions and if we somehow could make them understand this kind of...

Dr. Hew Len: Well, you DONT WANT them to understand it!! What YOU want to do is do

your cleaning, so you can de-traumatize them by de-traumatizing YOU!

Theyll be FINE, if you are Zero!!! In other words, if you are doing your

cleaning and you are back to Zero, theyll go back to Zero. Theyve got to go!

Divinity is not just going to take care of YOU!! So, if you are working with

families, anything that comes up, its just a memory. Its NOT THEM! They

are perfect. You are perfect. Its a memory. So, if it comes off of you, itll

come off of you. Itll come off of ships. Itll come off of oceans. You can not

believe how this thing will come off. Its monumental!!! Even though, you

just say, I love you! You can not see the enormity of it all! So, the idea is,

If you take good care of yourself, everything else will be okay.


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Female: You know, I DO take care of myself. I am thinking of the OTHERS.

Dr. Hew Len: [Chuckling]

Female: The other families...


Female: ...to take care of, you know?

Dr. Hew Len: You can GIVE THAT UP!!

Speaker: Yes!

Dr. Hew Len: Because what I am seeing is you THINK they need help, this is your thoughts

of them, when you can let those thoughts go.

Female: When I see the suffering, yes, then I can do something.

Dr. Hew Len: Thats right! If you feel the suffering, you can let it go!!! When you let it go, it

will be gone for them!!! [Pause]


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You know, for example, Ive got to come back...this was twenty something

years ago. Its got to come back to Hawaii State Hospital. So, I walk the

building. Dont talk to anybody unless somebody comes up to me. But you

could...we only pay attention to the HUMAN SIDE. We dont see what the

buildings suffer. I mean SUFFER!! You can hear the plumbing suffer. No

trees, I mean, no plants could grow in this unit. No plant, nothing at all. The

paint was peeling. The repair people would not want to come in because every

time they come and do a painting, in a month or two itd be peeling. Well,

nobody looks at how traumatized the environment is!!! I dont know anybody

that has got a Ph.D. in how to make a building feel wonderful!!! Anybody got

a Ph.D. in how we can make buildings feel wonderful? Yeah. Thank you

VERY much!

Woman: [Laughing]

Female: Yeah.

Female: So, Doctor....?

Dr. Hew Len: So, all you have to do is take care of yourself, really!! Yes?


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Female: The same thing is if you were like in hospitals and you wanted to clear the

energy in the hospital its the same thing. You are in that...you are seeing that

hospital so its part of you, down to the subconscious.

Dr. Hew Len: Oh, yeah.

Female: Or Manna, the same thing.

Dr. Hew Len: Oh, yeah!

Female: You dont LOVE the building. You go back to the same process.

Dr. Hew Len: No, you are coming back to yourself, because it is IN YOU the problem lies,

NOT anywhere else!!! So, if you are going to be working...if you are a nurse

or anything else, you are working on YOUR THOUGHTS OF, your

experiences of. You are not working on the building. The building is perfect.

Sorry.

Female: So, when you cleared this room before you came, you worked on yourself

about this room?

Dr. Hew Len: Oh, I worked on whatever memories I had with the land, with the place, with

people, with you, with the environment, with the building. I would ask, for


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example, If the owner, if he had problems with building of his building.

Shall we ask him?

Did you ever have any concerns about the building of this building? Did

anything happen that...now LISTEN, because hes going to TELL US. Like,

what for example?

David/Owner: You can have a sense about a building when you build it whether its

[pause].... Yeah, its a vibration I guess. Its somethingbut the concrete

comes and if its not mixed correctly, I know it.

Dr. Hew Len: You see that? I mean thats unusual that HE would KNOW that when a

concrete is mixed before it comes, he KNOWS its not correct! How many of

YOU would know that? He has this SENSE for that. Now, what I am saying

to him, he can CLEAN it before they MIX IT! When he cleans it, they will

mix it perfectly!!! But, this building, as I watch this building, this building is a

wonderful building, but it has had some rocky beginnings. I think its

WONDERFUL! You talk to the building.

Really?

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I keep saying, they brought these things and I go, Oh, my God, they are

going to put that on me?

So, you have this conversation...and beautiful!

But there he is, see? So, he has this sense and now you are in this building. If

your building is unhappy, you are going to have problems!! So, we want to

THANK HIM, see, for having this kind of AWARENESS. Can you imagine

now, if he is paying attention and the building knows that he LOVES it, this

building will go to the max for him, which MEANS this building can stay up

twenty years beyond however he lived. This building will FEEL this LOVE

once and for all and it will...youd have to TEAR it down, no termite is going

to get it, no earthquake. Really!! If it FEELS LOVE...even cars.


Dr. Hew Len: Even cars! I had somebody moan and groan, but they always had repair

problems. I am watching. I am cleaning.

Then the car, you could hear the car say, Well, he is not taking care of me,

why should I take care of him?


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Can you imagine? Well, thats what happens. We get what we deserve. Too

bad!

Female: [Laughing]

Woman: Wouldnt we know when to STOP about a particular issue?

Dr. Hew Len: Why do you even want to PAY ATTENTION to that?

Woman: Well, a lot of time, I am just CONTINUING it.

Dr. Hew Len: Yeah, but if you DO it and the cleaning, its a shift. Itll shift on its own. You

dont have to pay attention to it.

Woman: But, like your example, you cleaned and cleared before you came here.

Dr. Hew Len: Oh, yeah and I STILL AM!

Woman: Well, yeah, and you will CONTINUE.

Dr. Hew Len: Oh, yeah.

Woman: Okay.


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Dr. Hew Len: Oh, yeah, Ill continue for YEARS.

Woman: Thank you.

Dr. Hew Len: Yeah, years after I leave. Its not done! Im not just passing through.

Woman: So, we should have an arm/mind phrase...a frame of mind, Just to

CONSTANTLY be doing it.

Dr. Hew Len: Oh, yeah! Because this building has family...up in the air! So you are cleaning

with this building, this building will say to those guys up there, WOW! If

you were here, you should see the good time I am having! But if you are not

doing the cleaning, this building will not support you. The electrical system

will do crazy stuff. Yes?

Man: You shared at lunch time that you have been doing this since the 1980s?

Dr. Hew Len: Yeah.

Man: Okay, do you feel now that since youve been doing it SO LONG that it has

percolated right down to your Subconscious, also?


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Dr. Hew Len: I would say that much of the cleaning goes on in my child. Yeah. Yeah.

Man: So, its just working on it consciously.

Dr. Hew Len: Yeah, but what happens...what happens is...and then I would like to take a

break, because otherwise your...the subconscious is all going to leave and go

on a break themselves, you know? [Marker / Drawing sounds].

So, lets look at you. I am talking about you as a Mind. So, this is cell. This is

you as a cell or your mind; so all of the problems start here. Then, the problem

has exacerbated because the Intellect hooks into that. So, this is the Intellect

and this is physical aspects of mind. It is not the biology, but the physical

aspect.

So, as soon as the memory comes up, the Intellect hooks into it. So, I know

what is going on, or, This is what I am going to do.

But, it doesnt know what is going on! So now, I have done it really just for

EONS literally. So know, this child had heard my cleaning process and there

are LOTS of them, but let me just put, I love you. So, this child already

knows, because I have done it so often, thats what it needs to do if it feels a

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Mister: So, are you doing this when your mind...I mean, are you focused on your life,

you are going about doing whatever it is that you do, are you doing it

whenever your mind begins to wander?

Dr. Hew Len: I would say that would be a theme. Yeah. If I FEEL something up at THIS

level, if something POPS up, I start to do cleaning, yeah. But, there are

THOUSANDS and MILLIONS of cleaning that is going on down here,

because its already been programmed to say, Hey, when a problem comes

up, lets get to it!

Mister: Right.

Dr. Hew Len: Because its the one that suffers, its willing to do it. The SUFFERING is

HERE, not up here. This is a person that is going like that, big deal, but here is

the suffering is enormous.

Mister: So, then for you, its become like a reflex.

Dr. Hew Len: Oh, I dont know about that...yeah, possibly. But, if Ive been doing it long

enough, that part of it says, Oh, thats the way that it works. If I decide I am

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Mister: But you...when you make the choice to begin your chants, do you actually

THINK about it or does it just actually begin?

Dr. Hew Len: It just begins! Yeah. Anybody else before we take a break? Going once!

Going twice! Oh, lets take a break.

Joe: Yeah.

Audience: [Talking amongst themselves]

[This is the end of CD two. Now, please insert the next CD.]

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