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YPP Activities YPP Activities D o you think thatw ould be usefulthatYPP supported and organized socialactivities? 0 5 10 15 20 25 30 35 40 N o answ er N o opinion No Y es P ostdocs S tudents W ould you be interested in taking partin organizing such activities? 0 5 10 15 20 25 N o answ er NO YES P ostdocs S tudents W hattype ofactivities do you think YPP should organize? 0 5 10 15 20 25 30 35 40 social cultural sports post-docs students Strong interest in social activities Some of your suggestions BBQ, something like Summie Cocktail Getting to know area together, some forum for info exchange… Happy that some of you would like to help organizing them!

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YPP ActivitiesYPP ActivitiesDo you think that would be useful that YPP supported

and organized social activities?

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10152025303540

No answer No opinion No Yes

Postdocs

Students

Would you be interested in taking part in organizing such activities?

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25

No answer NO YES

Postdocs

Students

What type of activities do you think YPP should organize?

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10152025303540

social cultural sports

post-docs

students

• Strong interest in social activities

• Some of your suggestions– BBQ, something like Summie

Cocktail– Getting to know area

together, some forum for info exchange…

• Happy that some of you would like to help organizing them!

Integration into the Geneva/CERN Integration into the Geneva/CERN AreaArea

• Most of you are quite well aware of what’s going on in the area

• Maybe to be shared with newbies?

Are you already member of a CERN club?

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No Answer NO YES

Postdocs

Students

Do you attend cultural/social activities going on in Geneva?

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No Answer NO YES

Postdocs

Students

Do you find it easy to find out about cultural/social activities in Geneva?

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No Answer Didn't Try Easy Not Easy Don't findAt all!

Postdocs

Students

Future of HEPFuture of HEP• Larger interest in

global information of HEP rather than specifics of the experiments you work in

Do you think that YPP could help you by providing information in funding… (all)

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No opinion Not soimportant

Important VeryImportant

Labs

Univ. Groups

Grant-giving institutions

Do you think that YPP could help you by providing information in Discussions and decisions around current and future experiments & accelerators ?

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No opinion Not soimportant

Important VeryImportant

Postdocs

Students

Do you think that YPP could help you by providing information in Management structure of your

group/experiment ?

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25

No opinion Not soimportant

Important VeryImportant

Postdocs

Students

Career/Work Issues of YPPCareer/Work Issues of YPP

• Biggest concern– Availability of academic jobs– Industry jobs & career fair smaller importance

• Alumni Association not deemed so important

Academic job possibilites

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20

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no opinion not so important important very important

students post-docs

Industry Job possibilities

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no opinion not so important important very important

students post-docs

Alumni Association

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no opinion not so important important very important

students post-docs

Career Fair

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no opinion not so important important very important

students post-docs

Mentoring/Networking etcMentoring/Networking etc

• Mentoring system not so important• Advisor/Advisee Relation not a very big concern • Networking (more so for post-docs) and role in big experiments deemed important• Information on Award & Scholarship possibilities is a concern

Networking

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no opinion not so important important very important

students post-docs

Role in big experiments

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no opinion not so important important very important

students post-docs

Advisor/Advisee Relationship

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no opinion not so important important very important

students post-docs

Mentoring system

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20

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no opinion not so important important very important

students post-docs

Award & Scholarship Possibilities

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no opinion not so important important very important

students post-docs

Discussions/social issuesDiscussions/social issues

• Interest in Discussion Fora/Communication channels• Help for moving onsite specially interesting to students• Interest in social issues like childcare/healthcare minimal

Help moving onsite

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no opinion not so important important very important

students post-docs

Specific communication channels

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no opinion not so important important very important

students post-docs

Discussion fora

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no opinion not so important important very important

students post-docs

Childcare/healthcare

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no opinion not so important important very important

students post-docs

YPP PrioritiesYPP Priorities

• Post-doc YPPs most interested in activities regarding their own issues (most comments on YPP issues concerned JOB SECURITY), second comes the current and future state of HEP

• Student YPPs ~equally interested in YPP issues, social activities and academic training

Chosen top two categories

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40 students postdocs

academic training outreach social activitiescurrent & futureHEP stateYPP issues

Your biggest concernsYour biggest concerns• A few selections (all of your comments were very interesting!):

– Many are concerned with permanent positions, HEP career structure:• difficulties to find fast permanent job with reasonable salary and conditions• My mayor concern is how difficult it is for young people to get permanent positions.

– Big concern about size and time-scale of experiments/collaborations• Loosing interest. Projects become so vast open questions so remote that itis hard to keep interested -

even for myself what about the general public?• Due to the extreme size of ongoing experiments and activities small sometimes even more

interesting projects can not any more be followed. On the long term this will have two major consequences: one loosing a lot of interesting figures the other becoming more and more anonymous.

• 1)Future experiments and long-term planning of the field 2)Postdoc positions 3)The kind of career High Energy Physicists are expected to follow4)Opportunities in the near future for tenure potions at university both in Europe and the US for HEPhysicists 5)Opportunity in the near future for non-academic research jobs 6) Opportunity in the near future for industry-related jobs

– Funding of HEP, the future of the field, support from general public• 1. the budget situation at CERN and at the institutes.2. the lack of perspective• Getting out information about the importance of fundamental physics research in society to increase

the interest among young students and among decision makers. A change in attitude will have positive repercussion on many other secondary worries.

• The ratio gain/prize seems to be low compared to other sciencies. • That it gets too big and too political too many people making decisions and noone there to do the

work• Future funding support/endorsement from general public• no more money• :)difficult to write about it in a few words. everybody knows about increasing of lack money which can

be IMHO cured only through more and propper propaganda - outreach• Is there a future?

Survey Conclusions (preliminary)Survey Conclusions (preliminary)• Most important categories are YPP issues and the

HEP field state• AT category

– Possible interest in ypp for ypp seminars

• Outreach– Don’t repeat what CERN’s already doing, but increase

awareness for outreach

• Social activities– Most of you interested, plan to propose some activities here

(and accept your offer to help! )

• HEP field– Discussion fora, propagate HEP decision infos

• YPP issues– Your biggest interest

• Maybe improve academic job info, discussion fora, seminars on job-related skills? Your input and suggested activities wanted!