who am i speaking on behalf of? 6 years of being a medical student - hybrid course 2 months into...
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Who am I speaking on behalf of?
• 6 years of being a medical student - hybrid course
• 2 months into internship
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The downgrading of Basic Sciences?
- a student’s perspective
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Teaching the Art AND the Science of Medicine
The dual importance of raw knowledge and the ability to put it
into action
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What Will I talk About?
• Content
• Feedback
• Apprenticeship
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Current Opinion
• Academics
• Clinicians
• Heads in books
• Dinosaurs
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What do the students think?• The medical student organisations
• Australian Medical Students Association
• Local Medical Student Societies
• No Policy
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Do students have an opinion?• Yes
• Growing Awareness
• Major item on AMSA agenda for their first Council meeting of 2005 in March.
• Personal opinion combined with the perspectives of others
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Content
• “Hard” vs “Soft” Science
• 20 years ago
• The pendulum has swung
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Where Do I think the pendulum lies?
• Too far in favour of “soft science”
• Soft science is important
• There is not enough anatomy, physiology, biochemistry and pharmacology
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How much should there be?
• Too much of a good thing
• Bring back more hard science
• Does this have to be at the expense of soft science?
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Feedback
• Non-graded passes vs marks
• Formative vs Summative
• "When the cook tastes the soup, that’s formative; when the guests taste the soup, that’s summative." - Robert Stakes
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What is my opinion?
• “Where none admire, tis useless to excel”
• Basic competencies vs encouraging and rewarding excellence
• Basic competencies AND encouraging and rewarding excellence
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MORE FEEDBACK
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Is there anything on which all stakeholders agree?
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Apprenticeship
• Medicine needs mentoring
• Is this taking place to a sufficient level?
• No
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Why?• Individuals or system?
• System failure
• Service delivery is taking priority over teaching
• Applies to teachers and students (junior doctors).
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Whose responsibility is this?
• State Departments of Health
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What needs to be done?
• More money
• More time
• Recognition
• Protection
• Quantification - of both time and money
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OUTCOMES
• RECOMMENDATIONS
• LISTENED TO BY THE RIGHT PEOPLE
• Listen vs hear
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The Right People?
• AMC
• CDAMS
• Academics in the MEUs
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Thankyous
• David Hewett
• Ted Cleary
• Matthew Hutchinson
• All attendees
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Recommendations: Content
• That this conference recognises the value of subjects such as communication skills and ethics.
• That the MEUs increase the level of hard science taught in their curriculums. That this takes place while still maintaining an adequate level of soft sciences
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Recommendations: Feedback
• That more assessment is provided to medical students.
• That this should consist of a mixture of summative and formative assessment.
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Recommendations: Apprenticeship
• That the state Departments of Health need to invest more money into the education of medical students and junior doctors.
• Quantification
• Recognition
• Protection