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“Whirlpool” Galaxy M51: NASA Hubble image

Science and God:Answering the “New

Atheists”

Science and God:Answering the “New

Atheists”

Dr. Kirk BertscheBASS 2011

Dr. Kirk BertscheBASS 2011

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Claims of New AtheistsClaims of New Atheists

Religious faith is opposed to reason and evidence

Religion is short-sighted and evilExistence of God and miracles

should be scientifically testable; no evidence for them

Naturalism provides a complete explanation of the universe, making God unnecessary

Religious faith is opposed to reason and evidence

Religion is short-sighted and evilExistence of God and miracles

should be scientifically testable; no evidence for them

Naturalism provides a complete explanation of the universe, making God unnecessary

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Richard Dawkins (1941-)

Evolutionary BiologistOxford University

Richard Dawkins (1941-)

Evolutionary BiologistOxford University

“… “… we need no God to explain the we need no God to explain the universe and life … We cannot, of universe and life … We cannot, of course, disprove God, just as we course, disprove God, just as we can't disprove Thor, fairies, can't disprove Thor, fairies, leprechauns and the Flying leprechauns and the Flying Spaghetti Monster. But, like those Spaghetti Monster. But, like those other fantasies that we can't other fantasies that we can't disprove, we can say that God is disprove, we can say that God is very very improbable.” –very very improbable.” –“Why There “Why There is Almost Certainly No God” (2006)is Almost Certainly No God” (2006)

“… “… we need no God to explain the we need no God to explain the universe and life … We cannot, of universe and life … We cannot, of course, disprove God, just as we course, disprove God, just as we can't disprove Thor, fairies, can't disprove Thor, fairies, leprechauns and the Flying leprechauns and the Flying Spaghetti Monster. But, like those Spaghetti Monster. But, like those other fantasies that we can't other fantasies that we can't disprove, we can say that God is disprove, we can say that God is very very improbable.” –very very improbable.” –“Why There “Why There is Almost Certainly No God” (2006)is Almost Certainly No God” (2006)

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Psalm 19:1-4aPsalm 19:1-4aFor the choir director. A Psalm of David.For the choir director. A Psalm of David.

1. The heavens are telling of the glory of God; 1. The heavens are telling of the glory of God; And their expanse is declaring the work of His And their expanse is declaring the work of His hands. hands.

2. Day to day pours forth speech, 2. Day to day pours forth speech, And night to night reveals knowledge. And night to night reveals knowledge.

3. There is no speech, nor are there words; 3. There is no speech, nor are there words; Their voice is not heard. Their voice is not heard.

4. Their line has gone out through all the earth, 4. Their line has gone out through all the earth, And their utterances to the end of the world.And their utterances to the end of the world.

For the choir director. A Psalm of David.For the choir director. A Psalm of David.

1. The heavens are telling of the glory of God; 1. The heavens are telling of the glory of God; And their expanse is declaring the work of His And their expanse is declaring the work of His hands. hands.

2. Day to day pours forth speech, 2. Day to day pours forth speech, And night to night reveals knowledge. And night to night reveals knowledge.

3. There is no speech, nor are there words; 3. There is no speech, nor are there words; Their voice is not heard. Their voice is not heard.

4. Their line has gone out through all the earth, 4. Their line has gone out through all the earth, And their utterances to the end of the world.And their utterances to the end of the world.

NASB

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Psalm 19:4b-6Psalm 19:4b-64b. In them He has placed a tent for the sun, 4b. In them He has placed a tent for the sun,

5. Which is as a bridegroom coming out of 5. Which is as a bridegroom coming out of his chamber; his chamber;

It rejoices as a strong man to run his It rejoices as a strong man to run his course. course.

6. Its rising is from one end of the heavens, 6. Its rising is from one end of the heavens,

And its circuit to the other end of them; And its circuit to the other end of them;

And there is nothing hidden from its heat.And there is nothing hidden from its heat.

4b. In them He has placed a tent for the sun, 4b. In them He has placed a tent for the sun,

5. Which is as a bridegroom coming out of 5. Which is as a bridegroom coming out of his chamber; his chamber;

It rejoices as a strong man to run his It rejoices as a strong man to run his course. course.

6. Its rising is from one end of the heavens, 6. Its rising is from one end of the heavens,

And its circuit to the other end of them; And its circuit to the other end of them;

And there is nothing hidden from its heat.And there is nothing hidden from its heat.

NASB

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Two “Books” of RevelationTwo “Books” of Revelation

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Romans 1Romans 118. For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all 18. For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all

ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who suppress ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, the truth in unrighteousness,

19. because that which is known about God is evident within 19. because that which is known about God is evident within them; for God made it evident to them. them; for God made it evident to them.

20. For since the creation of the world His invisible 20. For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse. been made, so that they are without excuse.

21. For even though they knew God, they did not honor Him 21. For even though they knew God, they did not honor Him as God or give thanks, but they became futile in their as God or give thanks, but they became futile in their speculations, and their foolish heart was darkened. …speculations, and their foolish heart was darkened. …

25. For they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and 25. For they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.

18. For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all 18. For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who suppress ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, the truth in unrighteousness,

19. because that which is known about God is evident within 19. because that which is known about God is evident within them; for God made it evident to them. them; for God made it evident to them.

20. For since the creation of the world His invisible 20. For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse. been made, so that they are without excuse.

21. For even though they knew God, they did not honor Him 21. For even though they knew God, they did not honor Him as God or give thanks, but they became futile in their as God or give thanks, but they became futile in their speculations, and their foolish heart was darkened. …speculations, and their foolish heart was darkened. …

25. For they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and 25. For they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.

NASB

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HOW Does Nature Point to God?

HOW Does Nature Point to God?

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Design in NatureDesign in Nature

NASA/JPL-Caltech Simulated image of Milky Way Galaxy

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Stephen Hawking (1942-)

Theoretical Physicist and CosmologistProfessor Emeritus, Cambridge

University

Stephen Hawking (1942-)

Theoretical Physicist and CosmologistProfessor Emeritus, Cambridge

University““The laws of science, as we know The laws of science, as we know them at present, contain many them at present, contain many fundamental numbers, like the size fundamental numbers, like the size of the electric charge of the electron of the electric charge of the electron and the ratio of the masses of the and the ratio of the masses of the proton and the electron. … The proton and the electron. … The remarkable fact is that the values of remarkable fact is that the values of these numbers seem to have been these numbers seem to have been very finely adjusted to make possible very finely adjusted to make possible the development of life.” – the development of life.” – A Brief A Brief History of TimeHistory of Time (Bantam, 1988), p. 125. (Bantam, 1988), p. 125.

““The laws of science, as we know The laws of science, as we know them at present, contain many them at present, contain many fundamental numbers, like the size fundamental numbers, like the size of the electric charge of the electron of the electric charge of the electron and the ratio of the masses of the and the ratio of the masses of the proton and the electron. … The proton and the electron. … The remarkable fact is that the values of remarkable fact is that the values of these numbers seem to have been these numbers seem to have been very finely adjusted to make possible very finely adjusted to make possible the development of life.” – the development of life.” – A Brief A Brief History of TimeHistory of Time (Bantam, 1988), p. 125. (Bantam, 1988), p. 125.

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Paul Davies (1946-)Physicist, Arizona State University

Paul Davies (1946-)Physicist, Arizona State University

““It seems as though somebody has It seems as though somebody has fine-tuned nature’s numbers to fine-tuned nature’s numbers to make the Universe. … The make the Universe. … The impression of design is impression of design is overwhelming.” – overwhelming.” – The Cosmic The Cosmic BlueprintBlueprint (New York: Simon and (New York: Simon and Schuster, 1988) p.203.Schuster, 1988) p.203.

““It seems as though somebody has It seems as though somebody has fine-tuned nature’s numbers to fine-tuned nature’s numbers to make the Universe. … The make the Universe. … The impression of design is impression of design is overwhelming.” – overwhelming.” – The Cosmic The Cosmic BlueprintBlueprint (New York: Simon and (New York: Simon and Schuster, 1988) p.203.Schuster, 1988) p.203.

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Existence of NatureExistence of Nature

““The usual approach of science of The usual approach of science of constructing a mathematical model constructing a mathematical model cannot answer the questions of why there cannot answer the questions of why there should be a universe for the model to should be a universe for the model to describe. Why does the universe go to all describe. Why does the universe go to all the bother of existing? Is the unified the bother of existing? Is the unified theory so compelling that it brings about theory so compelling that it brings about its own existence? Or does it need a its own existence? Or does it need a creator, and, if so, does he have any other creator, and, if so, does he have any other effect on the universe?” effect on the universe?” – Stephen Hawking, – Stephen Hawking, A Brief History of TimeA Brief History of Time (Bantam, 1988), p. 174. (Bantam, 1988), p. 174.

““The usual approach of science of The usual approach of science of constructing a mathematical model constructing a mathematical model cannot answer the questions of why there cannot answer the questions of why there should be a universe for the model to should be a universe for the model to describe. Why does the universe go to all describe. Why does the universe go to all the bother of existing? Is the unified the bother of existing? Is the unified theory so compelling that it brings about theory so compelling that it brings about its own existence? Or does it need a its own existence? Or does it need a creator, and, if so, does he have any other creator, and, if so, does he have any other effect on the universe?” effect on the universe?” – Stephen Hawking, – Stephen Hawking, A Brief History of TimeA Brief History of Time (Bantam, 1988), p. 174. (Bantam, 1988), p. 174.

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Comprehensibility of Nature

Comprehensibility of Nature

∇⋅D = ρ∇⋅B = 0

∇×E = −∂B

∂t

∇×H = J+∂D

∂t

Maxwell’s Equations

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Albert Einstein (1879-1955)

Theoretical Physicist

Albert Einstein (1879-1955)

Theoretical Physicist““The most incomprehensible thing about the The most incomprehensible thing about the

universe is that it is comprehensible.universe is that it is comprehensible. Y You ou find it strange that I consider the find it strange that I consider the comprehensibility of the world … as a comprehensibility of the world … as a miracle or as an eternal mystery. Well, miracle or as an eternal mystery. Well, a a prioripriori, one should expect a chaotic world, , one should expect a chaotic world, which cannot be grasped by the mind in which cannot be grasped by the mind in any wayany way … …

…… a high degree of ordering of the objective a high degree of ordering of the objective world … could not be expected world … could not be expected a prioria priori. . That is the ‘miracleThat is the ‘miracle’’ which is being which is being consistently reinforced as our knowledge consistently reinforced as our knowledge expands.expands.”” – – Albert EinsteinAlbert Einstein

““The most incomprehensible thing about the The most incomprehensible thing about the universe is that it is comprehensible.universe is that it is comprehensible. Y You ou find it strange that I consider the find it strange that I consider the comprehensibility of the world … as a comprehensibility of the world … as a miracle or as an eternal mystery. Well, miracle or as an eternal mystery. Well, a a prioripriori, one should expect a chaotic world, , one should expect a chaotic world, which cannot be grasped by the mind in which cannot be grasped by the mind in any wayany way … …

…… a high degree of ordering of the objective a high degree of ordering of the objective world … could not be expected world … could not be expected a prioria priori. . That is the ‘miracleThat is the ‘miracle’’ which is being which is being consistently reinforced as our knowledge consistently reinforced as our knowledge expands.expands.”” – – Albert EinsteinAlbert Einstein

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Beauty in NatureBeauty in NatureBeauty in NatureBeauty in Nature

Crab Nebula M1: NASA Hubble imageCrab Nebula M1: NASA Hubble image

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Planetary Nebula IC418 “Spirograph”: NASA Hubble imagePlanetary Nebula IC418 “Spirograph”: NASA Hubble image

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““Cat’s Eye” Nebula NGC6543: NASA Hubble imageCat’s Eye” Nebula NGC6543: NASA Hubble image

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Spiral Galaxy M64: NASA Hubble imageSpiral Galaxy M64: NASA Hubble image

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““Sombrero” Galaxy M104: NASA Hubble imageSombrero” Galaxy M104: NASA Hubble image

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NASA Hubble Ultra Deep Field ImageNASA Hubble Ultra Deep Field Image

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Isaac Newton (1643-1727)

Scientist & Theologian

Isaac Newton (1643-1727)

Scientist & Theologian““This most beautiful system of the This most beautiful system of the sun, planets, and comets, could sun, planets, and comets, could only proceed from the counsel and only proceed from the counsel and dominion of an intelligent and dominion of an intelligent and powerful Being.powerful Being. . . . This Being . . . This Being governs all things, not as the soul of the governs all things, not as the soul of the world, but as Lord over all; and on world, but as Lord over all; and on account of His dominion He is wont to account of His dominion He is wont to be called Lord God.be called Lord God.” – ” – Sir Isaac Newton, Sir Isaac Newton, ““Principia Mathematica”, Book 3 (1687)Principia Mathematica”, Book 3 (1687)

““This most beautiful system of the This most beautiful system of the sun, planets, and comets, could sun, planets, and comets, could only proceed from the counsel and only proceed from the counsel and dominion of an intelligent and dominion of an intelligent and powerful Being.powerful Being. . . . This Being . . . This Being governs all things, not as the soul of the governs all things, not as the soul of the world, but as Lord over all; and on world, but as Lord over all; and on account of His dominion He is wont to account of His dominion He is wont to be called Lord God.be called Lord God.” – ” – Sir Isaac Newton, Sir Isaac Newton, ““Principia Mathematica”, Book 3 (1687)Principia Mathematica”, Book 3 (1687)

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Nature Points to GodNature Points to God

DesignDesignExistenceExistenceComprehensibilityComprehensibilityBeautyBeauty

DesignDesignExistenceExistenceComprehensibilityComprehensibilityBeautyBeauty

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--CAUTIONS----CAUTIONS--

Arguments to avoid“God of gaps” arguments“Science is wrong” arguments

Arguments to use, but not exclusively“First cause” arguments

Arguments to avoid“God of gaps” arguments“Science is wrong” arguments

Arguments to use, but not exclusively“First cause” arguments

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Nature Depends on GodNature Depends on God““He waters the mountains from His upper He waters the mountains from His upper

chambers; The earth is satisfied with chambers; The earth is satisfied with the fruit of His works. the fruit of His works.

He causes the grass to grow for the cattle, He causes the grass to grow for the cattle, And vegetation for the labor of man, So And vegetation for the labor of man, So that he may bring forth food from the that he may bring forth food from the earth,” – Ps. 104:13-14earth,” – Ps. 104:13-14

““You appoint darkness and it becomes You appoint darkness and it becomes night, In which all the beasts of the night, In which all the beasts of the forest prowl about. The young lions roar forest prowl about. The young lions roar after their prey And seek their food from after their prey And seek their food from God.” – Ps. 104:20-21God.” – Ps. 104:20-21

““He waters the mountains from His upper He waters the mountains from His upper chambers; The earth is satisfied with chambers; The earth is satisfied with the fruit of His works. the fruit of His works.

He causes the grass to grow for the cattle, He causes the grass to grow for the cattle, And vegetation for the labor of man, So And vegetation for the labor of man, So that he may bring forth food from the that he may bring forth food from the earth,” – Ps. 104:13-14earth,” – Ps. 104:13-14

““You appoint darkness and it becomes You appoint darkness and it becomes night, In which all the beasts of the night, In which all the beasts of the forest prowl about. The young lions roar forest prowl about. The young lions roar after their prey And seek their food from after their prey And seek their food from God.” – Ps. 104:20-21God.” – Ps. 104:20-21 NASB

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Nature Depends on GodNature Depends on God

““And He is the radiance of His glory And He is the radiance of His glory and the exact representation of His and the exact representation of His nature, and upholds all things by nature, and upholds all things by the word of His power.” – Heb. 1:3the word of His power.” – Heb. 1:3

““He is before all things, and in Him He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together.” – Col. all things hold together.” – Col. 1:171:17

““And He is the radiance of His glory And He is the radiance of His glory and the exact representation of His and the exact representation of His nature, and upholds all things by nature, and upholds all things by the word of His power.” – Heb. 1:3the word of His power.” – Heb. 1:3

““He is before all things, and in Him He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together.” – Col. all things hold together.” – Col. 1:171:17

NASB

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Donald M. MacKay (1922-1987)

Professor of Neuroscience, Keele University

... the continuing existence of our world is not something to be taken for granted. Rather it hangs moment by moment on the continuance of the upholding word of power of its creator. -- -- The Open Mind

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Stephen Hawking (1942-)

Theoretical Physicist and Cosmologist

Professor Emeritus, Cambridge UniversityThThese [natural] laws may have ese [natural] laws may have

originally been decreed by originally been decreed by God, but it appears that he God, but it appears that he has since left the universe to has since left the universe to evolve according to them and evolve according to them and does not now intervene in it. does not now intervene in it. -- -- A Brief History of TimeA Brief History of Time

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Donald M. MacKay (1922-1987)

Professor of Neuroscience, Keele University

Scientific laws do not prescribe what must happen; they describe what has happened. The earth does not go round the sun because Newton's (or Einstein's) law makes it, or tells it to. The earth goes its own way, and the scientific laws are our generalized way of describing how it goes. All that they prescribe are our expectations. -- The Clockwork Image

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C.S. Lewis (1898-1963)Professor of English, Oxford

University

[after a conversation with friend who claimed that a young man had survived WW2 “simply due to the laws of Nature” rather than due to his mother’s prayers]

But I was still not quite clear about the physical side of this picture. I had been thinking (vaguely enough) that the bullet’s flight was caused by the laws of Nature. But is this really so? -- “The Laws of Nature” from God in the Dock

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C.S. Lewis (1898-1963)Professor of English, Oxford

University

The dazzlingly obvious conclusion The dazzlingly obvious conclusion now arose in my mind: now arose in my mind: in the in the whole history of the universe the whole history of the universe the laws of Nature have never laws of Nature have never produced a single event.produced a single event. They are They are the pattern to which every event the pattern to which every event must conform, provided only that must conform, provided only that it can be induced to happen.it can be induced to happen. -- “T-- “Thhe e Laws of Nature” from Laws of Nature” from God in the DockGod in the Dock

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Nature (& Science) Is Not Enough

Nature (& Science) Is Not Enough

“… “… the scientific picture of the real world the scientific picture of the real world around me is very deficient. It gives us around me is very deficient. It gives us a lot of factual information, … but it is a lot of factual information, … but it is ghastly silent about all and sundry that ghastly silent about all and sundry that is really near to our heart, that really is really near to our heart, that really matters to us. It cannot tell us a word matters to us. It cannot tell us a word about red and blue, bitter and sweet, about red and blue, bitter and sweet, physical pain and physical delight; it physical pain and physical delight; it knows nothing of beautiful and ugly, knows nothing of beautiful and ugly, good or bad, God and eternity.” – good or bad, God and eternity.” – Erwin Erwin Schroedinger, pioneer of quantum mechanicsSchroedinger, pioneer of quantum mechanics

“… “… the scientific picture of the real world the scientific picture of the real world around me is very deficient. It gives us around me is very deficient. It gives us a lot of factual information, … but it is a lot of factual information, … but it is ghastly silent about all and sundry that ghastly silent about all and sundry that is really near to our heart, that really is really near to our heart, that really matters to us. It cannot tell us a word matters to us. It cannot tell us a word about red and blue, bitter and sweet, about red and blue, bitter and sweet, physical pain and physical delight; it physical pain and physical delight; it knows nothing of beautiful and ugly, knows nothing of beautiful and ugly, good or bad, God and eternity.” – good or bad, God and eternity.” – Erwin Erwin Schroedinger, pioneer of quantum mechanicsSchroedinger, pioneer of quantum mechanics

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“Why” -- Mechanism vs Purpose

“Why” -- Mechanism vs Purpose

The Bible “teaches us how to The Bible “teaches us how to go go to heavento heaven, not how the , not how the heavens heavens gogo” — ” — Galileo (after Cardinal Baronius)Galileo (after Cardinal Baronius)

The Bible “teaches us how to The Bible “teaches us how to go go to heavento heaven, not how the , not how the heavens heavens gogo” — ” — Galileo (after Cardinal Baronius)Galileo (after Cardinal Baronius)

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Psalm 19:7-9Psalm 19:7-97. The law of the LORD is perfect, restoring the soul; 7. The law of the LORD is perfect, restoring the soul;

The testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise The testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple. the simple.

8. The precepts of the LORD are right, rejoicing the 8. The precepts of the LORD are right, rejoicing the heart; heart;

The commandment of the LORD is pure, The commandment of the LORD is pure, enlightening the eyes. enlightening the eyes.

9. The fear of the LORD is clean, enduring forever; 9. The fear of the LORD is clean, enduring forever;

The judgments of the LORD are true; they are The judgments of the LORD are true; they are righteous altogether.righteous altogether.

7. The law of the LORD is perfect, restoring the soul; 7. The law of the LORD is perfect, restoring the soul;

The testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise The testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple. the simple.

8. The precepts of the LORD are right, rejoicing the 8. The precepts of the LORD are right, rejoicing the heart; heart;

The commandment of the LORD is pure, The commandment of the LORD is pure, enlightening the eyes. enlightening the eyes.

9. The fear of the LORD is clean, enduring forever; 9. The fear of the LORD is clean, enduring forever;

The judgments of the LORD are true; they are The judgments of the LORD are true; they are righteous altogether.righteous altogether.

NASB

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Claims of New AtheistsClaims of New Atheists

Religious faith is opposed to reason and evidence

Religion is short-sighted and evilExistence of God and miracles

should be scientifically testable; no evidence for them

Naturalism provides a complete explanation of the universe, making God unnecessary

Religious faith is opposed to reason and evidence

Religion is short-sighted and evilExistence of God and miracles

should be scientifically testable; no evidence for them

Naturalism provides a complete explanation of the universe, making God unnecessary

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Science and GodScience and God

Nature Points to GodNature Points to GodNature Depends on GodNature Depends on GodNature is Not EnoughNature is Not Enough

Nature Points to GodNature Points to GodNature Depends on GodNature Depends on GodNature is Not EnoughNature is Not Enough

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Recommended ResourcesRecommended Resources Answering the New AtheistsAnswering the New Atheists

The God Delusion DebateThe God Delusion Debate. (DVD) Fixed Point Foundation, 2007. . (DVD) Fixed Point Foundation, 2007. www.fixed-point.org..

Lennox, John C. Lennox, John C. God’s Undertaker: Has Science Buried GodGod’s Undertaker: Has Science Buried God? Oxford, England: Lion, ? Oxford, England: Lion, 2007.2007.

McGrath, Alister and Joanna Collicutt McGrath. McGrath, Alister and Joanna Collicutt McGrath. The Dawkins Delusion: Atheist The Dawkins Delusion: Atheist Fundamentalism and the Denial of the DivineFundamentalism and the Denial of the Divine. Downers Grove, IL: InterVarsity . Downers Grove, IL: InterVarsity Press, 2007.Press, 2007.

McGrath, Alister. McGrath, Alister. Dawkins’ God: Genes, Memes, and the Meaning of LifeDawkins’ God: Genes, Memes, and the Meaning of Life. Malden, . Malden, MA: Blackwell, 2005MA: Blackwell, 2005 . .

Evidences for God from NatureEvidences for God from NatureGingerich, Owen. Gingerich, Owen. God’s UniverseGod’s Universe. Cambridge, MA: Harvard University Press, 2006.. Cambridge, MA: Harvard University Press, 2006.

God and Science: Evidence for God. God and Science: Evidence for God. http://www.godandscience.org/

Gonzalez, Guillermo and Jay W. Richards. Gonzalez, Guillermo and Jay W. Richards. The Priveleged PlanetThe Priveleged Planet. Washington, DC: . Washington, DC: Regnery Publishing, 2004.Regnery Publishing, 2004.

McGrath, Alister. A Fine-Tuned Universe. Louisville, KY: Westminster John Knox, 2009

The Priveleged PlanetThe Priveleged Planet. (DVD) Illustra Media, 2004. . (DVD) Illustra Media, 2004. www.illustramedia.com, , www.Discovery.org/csc..

Reasons to Believe. Reasons to Believe. www.reasons.org

Answering the New AtheistsAnswering the New AtheistsThe God Delusion DebateThe God Delusion Debate. (DVD) Fixed Point Foundation, 2007. . (DVD) Fixed Point Foundation, 2007.

www.fixed-point.org..

Lennox, John C. Lennox, John C. God’s Undertaker: Has Science Buried GodGod’s Undertaker: Has Science Buried God? Oxford, England: Lion, ? Oxford, England: Lion, 2007.2007.

McGrath, Alister and Joanna Collicutt McGrath. McGrath, Alister and Joanna Collicutt McGrath. The Dawkins Delusion: Atheist The Dawkins Delusion: Atheist Fundamentalism and the Denial of the DivineFundamentalism and the Denial of the Divine. Downers Grove, IL: InterVarsity . Downers Grove, IL: InterVarsity Press, 2007.Press, 2007.

McGrath, Alister. McGrath, Alister. Dawkins’ God: Genes, Memes, and the Meaning of LifeDawkins’ God: Genes, Memes, and the Meaning of Life. Malden, . Malden, MA: Blackwell, 2005MA: Blackwell, 2005 . .

Evidences for God from NatureEvidences for God from NatureGingerich, Owen. Gingerich, Owen. God’s UniverseGod’s Universe. Cambridge, MA: Harvard University Press, 2006.. Cambridge, MA: Harvard University Press, 2006.

God and Science: Evidence for God. God and Science: Evidence for God. http://www.godandscience.org/

Gonzalez, Guillermo and Jay W. Richards. Gonzalez, Guillermo and Jay W. Richards. The Priveleged PlanetThe Priveleged Planet. Washington, DC: . Washington, DC: Regnery Publishing, 2004.Regnery Publishing, 2004.

McGrath, Alister. A Fine-Tuned Universe. Louisville, KY: Westminster John Knox, 2009

The Priveleged PlanetThe Priveleged Planet. (DVD) Illustra Media, 2004. . (DVD) Illustra Media, 2004. www.illustramedia.com, , www.Discovery.org/csc..

Reasons to Believe. Reasons to Believe. www.reasons.org

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Recommended ResourcesRecommended Resources Relationship Between Science and God (Worldview Issues)Relationship Between Science and God (Worldview Issues)

American Scientific Affiliation: Whole Person Education. American Scientific Affiliation: Whole Person Education. http://www.asa3.org/ASA/education/

Bickel, Bruce and Stan JantzBickel, Bruce and Stan Jantz. Creation and Evolution 101: A Guide to . Creation and Evolution 101: A Guide to Science and the Bible in Plain LanguageScience and the Bible in Plain Language. (formerly . (formerly Bruce & Stan’s Bruce & Stan’s Guide to How it all Began: A User-Friendly ApproachGuide to How it all Began: A User-Friendly Approach.) Eugene, OR: .) Eugene, OR: Harvest House, 2004 (2001).Harvest House, 2004 (2001).

Collins, C. John. Collins, C. John. Science & Faith: Friends or Foes?Science & Faith: Friends or Foes? Wheaton, IL: Wheaton, IL: Crossway Books, 2003.Crossway Books, 2003.

MacKay, Donald M. MacKay, Donald M. The Clockwork Image: A Christian Perspective on The Clockwork Image: A Christian Perspective on ScienceScience. Downers Grove, IL: InterVarsity Press, 1974.. Downers Grove, IL: InterVarsity Press, 1974.

Science and the God Question: Conversations with Dr. John Lennox & Science and the God Question: Conversations with Dr. John Lennox & Professor Alister McGrathProfessor Alister McGrath. (DVD) Fixed Point Foundation, 2007. . (DVD) Fixed Point Foundation, 2007. www.fixed-point.org..

Copies of this presentation: Copies of this presentation: http://www.bertsche.us/bass2011/

Relationship Between Science and God (Worldview Issues)Relationship Between Science and God (Worldview Issues)American Scientific Affiliation: Whole Person Education. American Scientific Affiliation: Whole Person Education.

http://www.asa3.org/ASA/education/

Bickel, Bruce and Stan JantzBickel, Bruce and Stan Jantz. Creation and Evolution 101: A Guide to . Creation and Evolution 101: A Guide to Science and the Bible in Plain LanguageScience and the Bible in Plain Language. (formerly . (formerly Bruce & Stan’s Bruce & Stan’s Guide to How it all Began: A User-Friendly ApproachGuide to How it all Began: A User-Friendly Approach.) Eugene, OR: .) Eugene, OR: Harvest House, 2004 (2001).Harvest House, 2004 (2001).

Collins, C. John. Collins, C. John. Science & Faith: Friends or Foes?Science & Faith: Friends or Foes? Wheaton, IL: Wheaton, IL: Crossway Books, 2003.Crossway Books, 2003.

MacKay, Donald M. MacKay, Donald M. The Clockwork Image: A Christian Perspective on The Clockwork Image: A Christian Perspective on ScienceScience. Downers Grove, IL: InterVarsity Press, 1974.. Downers Grove, IL: InterVarsity Press, 1974.

Science and the God Question: Conversations with Dr. John Lennox & Science and the God Question: Conversations with Dr. John Lennox & Professor Alister McGrathProfessor Alister McGrath. (DVD) Fixed Point Foundation, 2007. . (DVD) Fixed Point Foundation, 2007. www.fixed-point.org..

Copies of this presentation: Copies of this presentation: http://www.bertsche.us/bass2011/