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Similarities1. Talk to relatives2. Work back in time3. Kill off your ancestors4. Keep track of searches5. More than one piece of evidence6. Record what you learn7. Share the stories8. Use indexes9. Don’t trust indexes10.Same key records

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Differences

1. Common names

2. Patronymics

3. Nonconformists

4. Language

5. Place names

6. Key records online

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COMMON NAMES

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• Based on a study of marriages in Wales 1813-1837

• Insight for success

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NamesJohn MaryDavid MargaretThomas HannahEvan MatildaWilliam SarahEdward Elizabeth

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PATRONYMICS

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Patronymics

• Mab or ab or ap = son of

• Ferch or verch = daughter of

• In South Wales ab or ap was not always used

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Examples

• Jenkin Morgan

• David William Gibbs

• William Morgan John

• Evan Rees ap John

• David Williams

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Pre 1813 burial (1750)

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Naming Pattern

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PLACE-NAMES

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Jurisdictions

Diocese & Parish are critical

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Find & Use Detailed Maps

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WELSH LANGUAGE

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What does an American do with this?

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Records in Welsh

• Nonconformist records

• Chapel histories

• Monumental inscriptions

• Periodicals

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NONCONFORMITY

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KEY RECORDS ONLINE

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Findmypast.com

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Basic Records for Starting

• Census

• Civil registration (birth, marriage, death)

• Church records

• Probate

• Cemetery (tombstone transcriptions etc.)

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Top Websites

• FamilySearch.org: more than 1 billion free records

• Findmypast: best online Welsh collection

• National Library of Wales: the nation’s archive

• FamilySearch Wiki: help & how to research info

• Vision of Britain: maps

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PARISH REGISTERS

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Pre 1813 burial (1750)

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Post 1813 burial

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Marriages

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Marriages• Marriages are indexed well and serve as a good finding

tool

• Get your bearings by using maps

– Map of the country• https://www.familysearch.org/learn/wiki/en/Wales

– Map of the county showing all parishes• The book Atlas and Index of Parish Registers • Order one of the three maps for Wales at http://

www.ihgs.ac.uk/shop/contents/ihgsmaps/ihgsparishmaps/index.html?action=page&id=2

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Start with a marriage index

• FindMyPast has many Welsh parish registers at https://www.findmypast.com/ or use FindMyPast for free at a FamilySearch Center

• A list of county based indexes is at https://www.familysearch.org/learn/wiki/en/Wales_Marriage_Indexes_Before_1837

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Marriages pre 1754

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Details to watch for 1754-1837

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Post 1836 Parish Register

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Some details are the same as before 1837

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Some details are new

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Christenings

Christenings often show:• child’s given name• Father’s name• Mother’s name

Sometimes included:• Family residence such

as the village, street or farm name

• Father’s occupation

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Post 1812 parish register christening

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Bishop’s Transcript

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CIVIL REGISTRATION

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David Thomas Howell Death Notice

On the 11th inst., aged 75 years, Mr. David Thomas Howell, landlord of the Star Public house, Llanguicke. He was for many years a consistent member of the Independents, and was highly esteemed and beloved by all who knew him.

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CENSUS RECORDS

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PROBATE RECORDS

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RECORD SUPPLEMENTS / SUBSTITUTES

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Monumental Inscriptions

Supplement other records

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Strategies for Success• Kill off your ancestor

• Find your ancestor in every census

• Always search both the Parish Registers and Bishop’s Transcripts

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Strategies for Success

• Use indexes

• Don’t trust indexes

• Watch for patronymics:David Thomas Howell is a clue

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What’s so Different About Welsh Genealogy

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Basics of Welsh Research

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Begin Tracing Your Family History

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Gellilwca Fawr Old Farmhouse

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Gellilwca Fawr New Farm House

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Pre 1858 Wills

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Probate Inventory of Thomas Howell

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Probate Inventory of Thomas Howell

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Local Histories

There was another poet living in the district known as Howell Gellilwca, who was grandfather to Evan Evans, superindendent of police in Neath at this time, but who was born and brought up in Betting Ganol. I remember many of Howell’s sayings…

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Indexes First

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NBI Coverage for Wales

• Breconshire 5,000

• Cardiganshire 108,000

• Glamorganshire 361,000

• Monmouthshire 9,000

• Montgomeryshire less than 1,000

• Radnorshire 11,000

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Something to Remember

• The National Burial Index does not include information from monumental inscriptions

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CHURCH RECORDS

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Death Certificate

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Death Certificate

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Records in Welsh

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Pay close attention to all names

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Typical 1754-1837 marriage register

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Marriage by license

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Strategies for Success

• Kill off your ancestor

• Find your ancestor in every census

• Always search both the PRs and BTs

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Strategies for Success

• Use indexes

• Don’t trust indexes

• Watch for patronymics: David Thomas Howell is a clue