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Transcript from 32 nd Knowledge Seekers Workshop held October 16, 2014

(v1 2016-04-10) DRAFT (Transcription has not been verified. Double check info with video)

Transcript courtesy of Keshe Foundation New Zealand (KfNZ)

Video link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCeBxpZkpZ8

Summary:

Vibration before Lift

OK, Now Understand the Process

Plasma fields are affecting the Radio

Sharing Technology with Governments

Creating a Double Shielding

The Platform is Shaking

Energy Crisis is Over

Looking into the Abyss

Add to the Knowledge, but not criticising

We Create the Conditions

No Harm shall be done to Another Soul

Look at the Dust on the Floor

The Solution for Ebola is delivered

Inviting Cooperation from Pharmaceuticals

Dan’s Disclosure pertaining to Gold

Some Interesting Info on the Oil Industry

The Importance of National Security

Dan reveals more

Zirconium oxide with 1% quartz crystal

Marko’s Presentation

An Introduction to the First Health Workshop, or Nano materials and Gans materials in Bone

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCeBxpZkpZ8



Revolutionary Health Technology

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Rick: Hello, hello! Hello to everybody in the world, this is the 32nd Knowledge Seekers Workshop. We’ve had an exciting last few days at the Space Ship Institute. They’ve had some live video, that’s found on the line from SSI, on the same channel as the Workshop today, and the live video’s been coming through and folks have been following it day and night, and watching the progression of the magnetic fields and so on and it’s been quite exciting for some of us watching,

I’m sure we’ll hear more about that today from Mr Keshe. And that has to do with Armen’s reactor configurations, so perhaps we’ll hear a bit more about that situation. And I’m sure there are several other things that are to be discussed today. I’ve heard, for one thing, a rumor that the Keshe Foundation has gotten um, some um, what would you say, some recognition, international recognition, through something mysterious Mr Keshe alluded to. So maybe we’ll hear more about that. And maybe we’ll hear more about also the magrav components idea and some of the Gans set-ups and I think Marko might be working on that. I’m not sure, we’ll find out more today.

OK, without further ado, I’ll hand things over to the capable hands of Mr Keshe at the Space Ship Institute, and he can explain, Mr Keshe, are you there?

Mr Keshe: Yes. Good morning, good day, good evening to all of you, wherever you are. As Rick said, we are in a very important phase of the Keshe Foundation. A lot of work has been done by a lot of people. The Keshe Foundation now is not just a handful of people who’ve been running around in one country or two. Now the work of the Foundation and the scientific work and evaluation reaches, more or less, in every continent. This is thanks to all of you, especially since the workshops have come in with experts and other people, to allow the work to be understood.

One of the biggest problems with man is fear of unknown. And with programs like this, the teachings are the, what do you call it, in being able to dispense with the knowledge freely unconditionally, this has brought a lot of, a lot of fears about the Foundation to zero. There are a lot of governments who are afraid of what we do, because of, you’ve got to understand when there is so much misinformation, as I said, it becomes to be accepted, so, as we all know how the processes are started, there’s been so much misinformation that we’re a terrorist organization and the rest, now, we broaden knowledge for the world leaders to watch, for the

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world, scientific world to watch. And one of the departures from this was the live presentation of the lab in the past 48 hours.

I have seen a lot of comments going around, that our detector has something wrong with it, as you, if you’ve been following the lab procedures, these detectors are not the normal detectors of tesla. The minimum scale set on it can go up to 20 tesla. We paid 10, over 10 thousand Euro, and we waited for 8 months to meet this specification, which we have. Just because the sensor is what they call, is not the way it’s programmed in the background. And these people who come close to the Foundation and think they know everything and the use their knowledge to discredit the Foundation, these are the enemies of the Foundation, that have lost their position.

So we make it very clear, the detector we use is built, is customized for the Foundation. And you can buy these detectors for a few cents in the market. We have paid nearly 10,000+ for it to be customized and it can take a very, very low, low levels and very, very high levels. And I’ve heard people saying nobody can measure over 3, 4 or 5 tesla. And then, when we open the documents, if you go on the website, like Google, and you see 100 tesla in 1 condition and the rest. So it shows these people don’t have understanding of it.

How could we measure 100 tesla, unlike in universities? Because there are facilities available to us and we can finance this kind of equipment, that the common man doesn’t have. Just because you can go to a shop and buy a small detector and think that’s the limit of it, you don’t understand the background of it, it’s just like somebody buys a Mini for 5000 Euros and says I know everything about the Mini, and a guy buys a Mini for 50,000 Euro and gets it adapted and customized to his needs.

So this should put a lot of things away from the people. This detector, we use 2 detectors, we use highly sensitive, customized for the Foundation, and we have paid a lot of money for them to be tested in MRI systems in the hospitals and we paid for the hospitals’ time, for them to be, what do you call it? To be put through their paces over 3, 4 nights at a time. And this costs money to rent the thing, what do you call it? …the hospital MRI facilities and other equipment for measurement.

So, what you see, the measurement we have is more or less highly accurate. As we know, when we go to higher levels we could have 3-5% discrepancy, but at the moment we stand at 74 tesla, plus, even if we have 5% error of position, we are still in a very high level, with very little materials which are in the system.

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On the other hand, this is the second detector, which is highly sensitive to very low measurements indicated in the system. So we understand that we’re in the position not just to say what we want to say, but to prove it now what the technology is able to do. So, at the moment, the detector reads at 74 the maximum.

There’s one thing that you have to understand, this detector at the moment is showing peaks. We have literally put it showing every single reading. So, you see when you see 74 tesla, this means there has been a peak of 74 tesla, in the process of the running of the reactor. Now you can see Armen on the floor, this is from yesterday, you don’t see the live stream, he is sitting there, changing reactors. So, as you see yesterday Armen decided, because we had a failure in one motor, we literally took the whole thing into consideration, and Armen took everything off, because Armen is responsible for it, it’s his baby. As we understand from Armen, the second set is on its way to the Foundation. Most probably we’ll see more magnificent results in coming time.

Vibration before Lift

There is something that is very important. The reason we put this video, this session live on, was, for those who don’t know, is because we were standing with Marko, in the lab, watching the system. I saw a vibration, Marko telling me: ‘look a vibration, the system is vibrating’. And the minute I saw that, I asked Marko: ‘can you go and get me the camera?’ because this kind of vibration is very different than any other vibration you know. This is what we call ‘vibration before lift’. So, we immediately videoed it, to record it and then we saw this phenomena a few times after, during the recording and the rest.

I tried to put a camera live there yesterday, I think in the morning, so that people could see it when there was nobody here. The whole process is very simple. What I’m gonna do, I’m gonna open the video, that you can understand what is going on and how this system is set and why you see such a big phenomenon. The reason, (bad signal) can you see the paper? Hello, Rick?

Rick: It’s up here now Mr Keshe. Yes, we’re just getting it in now.

Mr Keshe: Yes, so please note if… Tell us if anybody has a picture? Everyone got a picture?

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Rick: Yes, it’s coming through Mr Keshe.

OK, Now Understand the Process

Mr Keshe: OK, now understand the process. This is something you have to understand what is happening and what’s going on, and while you observe, somebody… oh that one is open… Armen… disconnected? Yeah… you’re still there… yep he’s out… No problem… So, try to understand what is going on in the reactor space.

We have 3 reactors, which are sitting in this formation. And then we have a reactor, which is sitting in the middle. So you have 3, this here positioned down. But, if you look at the sideway of the setting, 3 reactors are on 1 level, and 1 reactor sits above, that’s the principal reactor. So we have 3 plasmas, looking sideways, sitting on the table. Can we bring the camera a bit closer?

Mr Keshe: OK, so in the cage you have this position when you look from the top. On the side view you have this. So, what happens in every circle in every reactor, if you look inside the reactor, from the reactor, you have such a position. You have the wall, you have the nanomaterial-coated center, central column, as you call it.

We did this nano-coating for the purpose of nanolayer has a broad gravitational magnetic field, so we pinned into it, then we filled up with the GANS of CO2, so the Ganses literally were loaded in this shape. In time, by rotation, according to the speed, the shape of the position of

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the GANS changes totally. You still have the center. When you start rotating, the GANS take position like this. Now, you immediately have created a gravitational magnetic field positioning. In this gap, from here to here, is water, which is in the mixture of the GANS. And from this point onto the wall, is GANS material, because you’ve got to understand, GANS, even being a plasma, we are using it in an atmospheric condition.

It takes the behavior of the heavy material or the gas. So, as you rotate it, it goes like a heavy material, in the centrifuge. So, what happens now, you have plasmas, which are in this region, and you have a plasma of the nanocoated material in the center. You have magnetic, gravitational field at the center, magnetic gravitational field of the GANS. And now you have 2 systems. When a magnetic gravitational field of the GANS interacts with the magnetic gravitational field of the system, they create their own plasma magnetic field. And by differing the speeds, we change this strength of this field. But now, this is in the reactor, you have a center, and the GANS around it.

The second step in this development is that now you have to look at this original condition, where the 4 reactors sit, or 3 reactors on the bottom and 1 on the top. There is something important to understand. In the design of this set, as you see in the lab pictures live sessions, and from our other experiments in the lab before, with the bigger motors, bigger systems, we know, because we place the motors below, all below the plate, more or less we don't have any reaction from the motors in the effect of the plasma created, because motors work in a matter field, plasmas work in a gravitational magnetic field. So the effect of the motors can be literally ignored compared to what is achieved. So your magnetic field sits on that and on this version.

Then we come to one point, when you look at this positioning or this positioning, and when you understand the field, which is created in one reactor. Now we have repeated the same thing again. Now, we have 3 reactors, which are creating their own field and these are at the base.

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And then we have one reactor, which sits somewhere up here, which its field, if you look from the top as a 1 plane, it is like this.

So, as we change the gravitational magnetic field of the center, the gravitational magnetic field of the reactors 1, 2 and 3, if you call them anti-clockwise, start interacting with each other. And then what we achieve is very significant. If you go back into this picture, or I do it again in a bigger scale, with us looking at the reactor in the way you see it in your pictures on your live stream... we have a reactor which is sitting on a plate there, we have a reactor which is here, we have a reactor in the background and a reactor here. These 3 are on 1 plane and this one sits above it.

So now what has happened is that these GM fields interact spherically in this shape with each other, if you see it. And if you look at the cage, we have put our detectors not looking at any of the reactors, but looking into the abyss… into fields in the center of the height. So, in a simple way, the figures you see is a reactor up here and 3 reactors in the base, and they sit like this, and one on top. And a detector measures the fields here in the space.

So we cannot say it's the field of one core, or one of the cores, because it's been specifically placed that it looks right in the center. What we've done, originally as you know, we changed the, if you look at this setting, there's no difference between this setting and this setting of the single core with the center pin inside. What we've done now, we made the pin larger. We have connected this top core with a nano-coated material. We literally replicated what was in the single core in a total setting.

So a nano coated material is used to centralize the plasma of the 3 reactors on the base and the top, so that the plasma does not run away in the position in the frame. So, when we look at

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it, and the way we have mounted the nano coated material in the center, we have a fixed position exactly as we fixed the position of the plasma inside here, in the core. We have overall fixed the position of the reactors, as a set in the cage in the center.

So the field can have 2 choices only. It can open up, if you look at the center beam and the top reactor, and the other 3 reactors in the way, in the base. The field can only go up and down, or expand. So now, our detector, just outside this, what do you call it, the 3 reactors, the 4 reactors, does not come into the sphere. It sits out of the sphere, just outside. Takes the field of the whole 3 base reactors and the mother reactor on the top, the principal reactor on the top. So, when we give you a reading or when you see a reading, the 'Z' is what is coming from this imaginary, empty space plasma. Which you read as 74 tesla at the moment.

This is the 'X', the 'Y' you see is the same if it's positive, and the 'Z' you see is positive, 'X' is positive. So this is our 'Z', this is our 'X' and this is our 'Y'. So, you give 3, you see 3 readings on the panel. So, now you have to understand what we are doing, and why you see such a thing.

Plasma Fields are affecting the Radio

Interestingly enough, if some of you have been going through every minute with us during the process and most probably heard some of our conversation, we thought we are alone in the lab and we usually work as usual way, you should have noticed something very, very important yesterday. Extremely important. When, (go through the videos because it is recorded), when we left the lab, we left the radio on. When we came in the morning, it was absolute silence.

I was told, I thought that the lab is closed. I don't know, maybe you've seen me there with my dog, going looking at the reactor and seeing what's on. And then, this silence was on when the Knowledge Seekers came about 10 o'clock. It was absolute silence when at the point we started with Knowledge Seekers. Did any of you put the radio on last night? And Marko said: 'yes'. But there was hardly any noise. He went and listened to the radio, he could hear a… like a whisper from the radio. And then, as is our usual habit here, we have no timetable in what we do and the things we do. We had a discussion time till about 12:30pm, 1pm, outside the lab, sitting around in chairs.

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We decided, Armen decided he is hungry, so we go for lunch, so Marko and Armen disappeared and I disappeared, we came back together again at about 3pm, 3:30pm, and when we came back to the lab, Armen said: 'It's gone up! It's gone up from 70 to 74!' And it was exciting to see, maybe that was the reason we had to go for lunch. But, the most significant thing was, that as I was walking away from the lab, I could hear the music.

I went back in, I said: “Are you listening? The noise is back.” So what happened is, the total, the structure when you look at the detector, sitting outside the plasma of the reactor, has reached so far beyond, I think the radio is what, 5 meters away, maybe more, 7, 8 meters away from the core. The influence of the field of this, this magnetical field, has reached beyond and when the gravitational field contracted, the noise was back.

But we saw exactly, if you go and watch the program during the time yesterday, between I think about 1pm and 3:30pm sometimes, you see the increase in the field on the Z axis, which is 74 and simultaneously around that time you should hear the change of the noise in the radio. So, this brings back into what we have shown in a very clear way.

At the moment, we are resetting the reactors. As we reset, we come to we are doing a special case at the moment, we change things, we don't discuss till it is done and we see the result. We keep the setting at 74, to see if we can add the field, because if we can get pulses higher then it teaches us more, that we are going in the right direction. So this has a huge significant application. And as I said before, if you don't come to it, I don't teach you. When you come to it, I teach you and I explain to you.

Sharing Technology with Governments

Rick has been asking me: 'Would you teach us the technology first, or would you share it with the governments?' This is a part we share with you and the governments, because I think even the governments did not understand the significance of the process we had in the past 48 hours. This technology is not developed for military use. This technology, the way it's done and it is, is for deep space. In space, you cannot keep on changing the gravitational field of your center where your passengers sit. You have to keep it a constant 1G, but at the same time, being able to create a second layer of defense, as what we call, not just a physical structure of the craft, as we are accustomed to the airplane, but the magnetic field shielding.

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And now, for the first time you have seen it. You have physically felt it. You can put the radio on and listen. I went to the lab this morning, it's absolute silence and we put the radio on before we leave last night. So, it means the magnetic field has gone beyond. This is a military term, as I explained to the American officials in my meeting 2 years ago. This is how you capture aircrafts. This is how, by extending the fields, you do not allow the craft or ship to receive any communication line.

We've seen this on the 5th of May Russian application of the technology. (The USS Donald Wood incident, see Book4) That the American crew couldn't even communicate internally within the board. Now, for the first time we have shown it physically.

Go through the lab time, you see this frequently. Now you understand why and how much change has been made. Wince asked me in a question, would this reach from here to where? I said it goes to the moon and beyond. So, in a way, a warning to the people who've spent so much money building spy satellites, aircrafts and whatever to kill another man. With a simple demonstration, deliberately put on live that everybody sees, we have put an end to the most advanced weapon technologies available to man.

And this is what we said to the governments, it's time to talk peace. You see, actually we can show it, we control the gravitational magnetic field, we can allow you to hear what we want and what we don't want you to hear, because we control the space. This is why I said to the Knowledge Seekers and when we opened the video, if you go in the first minutes of it, that the Space or the Keshe Foundation in Desanzano Italy has become a no zone flight. Because, within a distance, we know how much it is, will reach at the point that we can interfere with communication of any system, be it aircraft or helicopter or satellites.

This is not done to create any fear, but this is the development of the technology, which is tested. We are in a highly populated area, so these are inevitable. But, strangely enough, we can strengthen this field to over 4500 tesla. In so many ways our detector is set to go and be able to detect the certain amount of accuracy of that kind of fields. We have achieved over 70 tesla, which is a major breakthrough. The reason for it being a major breakthrough is that every time man has measured a field, he is looking into a system. Now, we have managed to measure a field in space. Which means we can shift this space to anywhere we like.

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We can shift by changing conditions in different reactors, to the left of the set up, or to the right and to what distance we need. In common matter language you call it lasering.

Creating a Double Shielding

But, in fact we need this in space, that we can create a field in the direction of the flow once you enter, let's say, the end of a comet. When a comet is running and it's got vapor in the back and you pass through it, you need a shielding. So you can strengthen your shielding as a plasma, in the direction of the flow.

Even, I told the Knowledge Seekers yesterday, how you can create a very simple but effective second shielding within the first shielding, because they have to learn how to do it and teach you how to do it when you are here, or when the production starts. So, now we can create a second field of motion as right behind. The reason for this is very simple. When you go in the cosmic dust, the same as happened with us and the dinosaurs!

If you have a single layer, the meteorite might enter in a certain angle that can penetrate through the field and then can hit the craft, because this field is moving in this direction. Now that you've seen the work of the system, in the second layer or internal layer, you move in this direction. If you get penetration by a meteorite or any object, once it comes in, it can penetrate this, it will get repulsed by the other one and it gets rejected. You reduce possibility of the interaction of any material in space with a craft in motion.

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I told you from day 1, we teach you everything so that you don't go in blind and you don't become a slave to the people in space, because you are hungry to understand. Now, you understand how an impenetrable magnetic field shield can be started.

Something to realise, very important, the total diameter of these reactors is 2cm. At the same time, you've got to understand because yesterday late in the afternoon, because of the condition, you see Armen on the floor, we had the opportunity, the fortune of actually opening one of the reactors after operation.

And when we opened the reactors, we saw exactly what we thought. The exact assumption which I showed you, which was the assumption because we saw it in the reactor which with the ceramic in the way that John made, when it broke, now we've seen it in the operation after so many hours. This is exactly how the setting is in the reactor core when we opened it up.

The center is totally water, because before we opened it, Armen went in with a syringe, to see if you see a mixture of the GANS and water. This, you can post it there, no? If you go on the pictures of the past, which we've shown the ceramic, you see it. We've seen the same feature in the central band area in the equator line of the reactor. So, what has happened is now, we know that a very, very, very thin layer of GANS sits and works in this operation. When we opened the reactor with a core we have taken the pictures, the video of it, in the future we'll show it, we'll post it up, you see this feature.

So now, very few plasmas around here, which are loose, are interacting with the center core. In the future I'll teach you how to be able to raise more or less all the plasma, but if you do that you create such a field that you block any field, even radiation from the Sun to the Earth, with a small reactor like this.

So, you've got to understand about the development. We did not develop this technology for the purpose of defense. We have developed this technology for man in space to be safe to travel now that we've opened the doors of space. And now, on the other hand, if you understood the work of the radio, go back and listen, you should be able to understand the warning to the military people. The most advanced spy satellites become obsolete, if a nation decides, or humanity decides, that we invest more money into the development of space than finding ways to kill each other or silence each other. The time of weapon technology in the most advanced way is over. In the coming days you will see the motion.

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The Platform is Shaking

As I explained earlier on, the reason we went live, was because we saw what I've told you for months and the past 2, 3 years: when the reactor comes to interact with the gravitational field of the Earth, the first thing you feel is the detachment from the Earth and what happened, this is what Marko saw immediately, that he said: “the platform is shaking.” But we checked, the shake is not due to vibration, because nothing was changed. The shake, we've seen it again, Armen checked it and we've gone through it, is to do with the magnetic field interaction.

What this means, is that the magnetic field which we created in that space, in the middle of the cores, if these are the 4 reactors, and the field which created, this field has started interacting with the gravitational magnetic field of the Earth and trying to find it's position. In the coming days, we are making adjustments so that what happens, let me explain to you first, when you have this vibration shake, if you have a solid position, you interact and you lift.

But because we are on a hanging platform, so the small changes back and forth allow the condition for the field to escape out of the frame. We know this, because you've seen it in the black reactors and the white reactor originally Armen put together, that we had the loose condition that the center core could feel and reject the fields, now you've seen it, we've seen it in practice.

So, in the coming days we rigidly control and block any vibration that we can transfer the vibration of the platform in reaction to the Earth's gravitational magnetic field, to lift and motion. So, humanity is ready to see for the first time lift and motion, without the wings and without jumping off a cliff, in a simple way. So, this is what has been explained, this is where we are now.

Some of you refer to, somebody referred earlier on that when Armen and Marko was working, and also was working earlier this week, in showing the light. The significance of this process has been so much that we actually put everything on the show for the time being, but the systems made by Marko are ready to be tested today, hopefully. With a slow flow, to show the light, at the same time we are setting up ourselves to be able to try to show lift and motion within the reactor structures.

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So, what you're going to see most probably, if we do what we are thinking to do, you will not see as such weight reduction, because we're locking it in a way that we can lift the whole frame. The whole frame has to lift. So we're going to lock it, that it's solidly locked, there is no possibility of any vibration, that the fields have to show interaction between the Earth and gravitational magnetic field of the Earth. And for this reason, I said: “When the time is right, we will show things that no government can interfere!”, so that the knowledge spreads and every government has the opportunity to and every citizen on this planet with knowledge has access to what everybody else has, that they cannot abuse each other.

So, in the coming time, if you look at the structure it tells you it's about 11.8kg, but the total weight of the 4 cores is, how much? 800g? Yes, 200g each core which is 400g, but again you noticed, that the core this time is made of copper and we see no heat. Because, the interaction is not in the matter level, so you can build these cores out of anything you like. A chewing gum box to… God knows... a cup you buy from the supermarket, from plastic, aluminium, anything you like.

So the knowledge of the space is not like all is made by Lockhead Martin, or Boeing or by European space industry or Chinese aircraft industry. Now that you have the knowledge, all of you have become overnight part of the space technology and you can do it yourself. And it goes back to the World Peace Treaty, and why we kept on saying there are no borders. I know a large number of governments are listening to this program, live, and they are monitoring our work. I know a large number of universities, which are working in the background testing everything we do to validate themselves.

Now, with the finances available to you, now you understand within a matter of days we should see, or months if they are too slow, public developing these systems for their energy and flight. The energy system is much cheaper and simpler than what we said. Now, you have the gravitational magnetic fields of your imaginary part, if you can strengthen and reduce one of the 4 cores, you create an unbalanced magnetic gravitational field, as Marko would like to say: 'Gradient'.

Energy Crisis is Over

And this gradient is what, if you can place what you did in your matter condition when you put 2 nano materials coated with 1 metal in the middle, your 2 nano material coated are the plasmas of 2 reactors, if you can stick the right material in between, what would you like? 100 kilo-watt or

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1mega-watt? The energy crises are over. Man-made energy crises is over, and now all of you can start doing it.

You are looking to look at the plasma and see how the GANS does and getting a motor to do it, if you go in the right direction. Within coming days, with the intelligence we have here, with Armen and Marko, we will be able to show this to you in a very clear way in the coming time. So the reason we went live, was very much we brought you our understanding of the matter to plasma and now you see the full value of the plasma.

Because of this new understanding and development, the Keshe foundation tomorrow has already made preparation and will be announced our new breakthrough tomorrow in the medical section. We will announce a major breakthrough in the health program of the Keshe foundation. And Dr Eliya. has finalised the papers and Wolffe has done the correction into it and now it's going for publication.

You understand how fast we are transferring the knowledge to you and we bring it into practicality of the development. The first CO2 systems are getting ready to be shipped out, from tomorrow a new type of unit will be available from the Keshe Foundation, we explained the reason and how this will bring the international cooperation of all of our knowledge in every angle. And then we see how and the way we can, what do you call, spread the knowledge in different directions.

This is not the way that knowledge has ever been spread around with mankind. We have put value on knowledge, but we haven't put value on peace, tranquility and unity. And we're changing the course this way. In the coming time, there's a second reactor, a small reactor which Armen is running as mentioned in the last talk. This reactor will show its power of the control from a distance from the reactor, the setting. This is very important.

Looking into the Abyss

So, in so many ways we have brought you in a very, very, very simple way into the world of plasma, in a very beautiful way, in a very simple way that every man can understand the possibilities and acceptance and be able to develop himself. We've done the same with our health section, we've done with everything else, we've left the material and the knowledge freely in the hands of man.

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So, now you understand the significance of the past 3 days and how we opened the knowledge so openly, rapidly and we put it on the live stream. A lot of people were reading numbers. It's going higher. But you could not put the totality to it, what this number means. Hopefully I have managed to explain to you.

With these numbers, we have shown that we don't need materials to create high value plasmas, of the high density, needed for space technology where we look into literally the detector on the sub-plane is looking into the abyss. This is looking into the plasma. So we see how things are.

Is there a problem? Marko? Is there someone posting something?... What are you sharing Armen?...What are you trying to share?...Ah, OK, OK... It's to do with the presentation of Marko later on...

Add to the Knowledge, but not Criticising

As we said, from now on each Knowledge Seeker has half an hour to present the technology, which was understood or not understood by others in the, what do you call it, sessions of the past. So, now as you seen with the children's' program, where we never taught them about magnetic field and we jumped in directly into the plasma and with the second session last time we tried to explain it more, for them to understand the behaviour of plasma, that this could become part of their thinking and the way that they live. So, if you understood, the more we do, we put more sessions live, when you go home you can watch.

Realise one thing; at the present pharmaceutical, at the present military industrial level, papers are fabricated to suit the financiers, so that they can do what they like. For example, we know a lot of medicines have a lot of side-effects and things and the guy who does the PhD to get it is told if you write this your PhD will be rejected. So it's changed to suit the financiers of the project, because they are interested in financing and making money and secondly, they don't want to show they have failures. We only see bigger failure when the medicine comes out and doesn't work and we see more people with the side effects.

In Keshe Foundation, we are not afraid of failure. That's why we go live on-line, you can see us. We sneeze, you see us, we succeed, you see us, we fail, you see us, and this is how it should

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be. The people who go around criticising this and that because they never understood so, with their feeble mind, they have to assert their existence by trying to get attention. So, these things, you see, this kind of mentality will disappear. As I said, as our webmaster said yesterday to the other people within the web structure, we are a team, we work as one, not as different.

So add to the knowledge, but not criticising, but adding to it. Because when you start, when I see comments like this and that and I sit back and say: 'you boys, you've not even understood.' And what they do, these people, make a connection with an email or they've been here or they've seen or whatever. I'll tell you stories a lot of people around the Foundation know. How people abuse being or knowing about our work.

2, 3 years ago, I was giving a lecture, maybe 100 or more people. A gentleman, very, very dignified gentleman came to me and said: 'Excuse me Mr Keshe. Do you have time, am I allowed to speak to you?' I said to him, 'Am I allowed to speak to you? Why?' he said: 'I'm professor so-and-so, I've come and listened to your lecture and the gentleman who introduced me to the technology, he says I need his permission to be able to speak to you.' I said: 'Who's that gentleman?' he showed me the gentleman in the distance in the room. I said: 'I've only spoken to the guy once or twice, I don't even know him'. 'But he said he represents you, so I need his permission to speak to you'. I said: 'A professor of your position, I need your permission to be able to speak to you.'

So, you see the abuse of being and talking and knowing and being near the Foundation. If someone is good enough to be able to be part of the Foundation core center, or core center, it doesn't matter whereabouts in what part of the world you are. If you do not work with the ethics of the Foundation, you find yourself distanced more. So, instead of splitting, to show for you to be recognised to be dysfunctional, allow the Foundation world wide to go ahead. I receive a lot of professional, correct communication asking for a knowledge expansion from the Chinese scientists and I've tried to respond to them in the limited time I have. I know Chinese scientists were concerned about the validity of the detector. If you look this detector is not a 3tesla, on the scale we have a control and now it's sitting at what Marko? 20 tesla. The scale.

And they say there is no detector which can do this. We have paid a lot of money to be able to show you the reality and we've paid a lot of money and time for it to be developed the way we want. So we can measure 20 plus, but ask us how we do it, what we've done. You're prepared to pay the finances to set the things there. This detector was sitting all the time outside, was never put inside because I knew what we were about to see and what is coming when the knowledge is ready for the people to understand.

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We can go into 2, 3, 400 tesla. You will see and you'll understand the reason why in the coming time. If you look, we placed, when we were placing the detector outside the environment of the box, we were in 2, 0.2, .02 tesla so we had the professor of plasma technology of the fusion, of the Italian, one of the leading nuclear plasma people here, and he criticised: 'you're just measuring a few mili-teslas.' And a way to respond to them, we brought it now in house, and you can see we can do hundreds of teslas. These detectors are built to do these kind of jobs. We've customized it, there are more customized systems coming in for plasma measurements.

So, you have to be ready for us to be able to extend the knowledge. This is the position. More or less, from 2 weeks ago, when I said we talked matter and now there's plasma, now you can see the work of the plasma in open space. 100, 200 tesla will become like apple and pears on the shelf of every scientific world. Costs of producing, I think Marko's telling me to produce, what was it?... Few teslas, how much? What we need?... Somebody posted how many kilowatts of energy they need to produce it... It's on the live stream apparently, he says you can read it. So, you see with less than 10watt, we can produce teslas because we don't do it, we create.

We Create the Conditions

This goes back to the essence of communication, understanding the technology. We create the conditions, we do not build systems to do it. We put very small reactors and we allow the conditions created to create another environment. As I said, for example: now we are setting this reactor, it's been set last night by Armen, to test this, to show the validity of this technology, that we can move in the coming time, the plasma, the sphere which it's in.

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It's very much like iClouds, you know now you have your computer memory in the clouds, we have created the plasma cloud. Now you can do all sorts of things with this. You can package a man in this plasma and send this package to anywhere at any speed you like. In time we'll start showing you, you understand because to you it is beyond you understanding now, we're gonna trail some condition this is what we're gonna do.

In the coming time, we start the first setting of it, Armen was working on it until about 8 o'clock last night, is that we try to move the plasma out of the frame of the setting of the reactor cores. What it means, we start moving the detector, to find out where the plasma sits outside in the open space. So outside it might read .02 tesla, and where we find the plasma, if we can do, it will read 70, 100, 200 tesla.

This is in our capability, we have the knowledge and in time l have started teaching. I find it pleasurable to work with Armen and Marko in a very close way, and it's built up a team for the development of the reactors and the development of the technology in a beautiful way. So, now we have Dr Eliya joining us and as I've said, in the coming days and months you'll see more professional people, who understand and work within the frame of the Foundation, to come in, to develop and teach you and teach us.

No Harm shall be done to Another Soul

As I always say, I'm still a student. But, you've got to understand one thing. On any circumstances, the knowledge we give you so freely, the more knowledge which is dispersed from the Foundation, and other Foundation members around the world, cannot, will not, and shall not be used to harm another soul. People who get hurt, they come to hurt themselves and they find that in being deprived of it they blame others for it.

We have started yesterday, remote control, the remote control of the plasma, by Armen. In trying for him, by sitting outside the lab with the connections, with the material he has in his position. To control the movement of the reactor or increase or decrease of the plasma, within the imaginary space.

And I think we have seen some results, in a very significant way, but we have to prove it and check it and re-check it. This is what we call remote control through the thoughts of the plasma, because now you cannot send and change the speed of the reactor. And Armen has started this

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process as of yesterday, or the day before and as we develop more and more and more… what is this? Are they trying to tell me something?... Yeah. OK...

So we disperse with the knowledge live. We keep the reactors and video cameras here in the lab for the next 2 or 3 days. Then at the same time I don't like the cameras to be all the time and the video to be always open in the lab, because we do things with some normal situation lab experiments, we're not paid to be actors and actresses. So, you see us as I said. I was told that the reactor was on the floor, when the camera was closed. I come in, I want to see the fact of it, I go on my hands and knees and with my dog coming, playing with me and so people see these things.

I think, in a way it shows that we are human, but on the other hand it shows we have to work within the structure in what we can do. The whole process is very simple. The whole structure is very simple. Yesterday, I've been on this video for a long time, I haven't had a pen in my hand for a long time, it's still there, hasn't come in yet... that's how it is, we've got to wait for a few minutes... When I put a third pen down it'll be about a minute now. So, there we are, the pen has gone down. (laughs)

Look at the Dust on the Floor

Amazing, it takes time... So you lot with the pictures are in slow motion... So, what you will see, as I explained yesterday if you've seen the videos because we thought they were off, Armen and Marko were sitting and watching and looking and doing everything, poking around the box to see if there was anything. And one of the things which I noticed when I was in the lab, I always tell them: 'look at the dust on the floor, look at the shape of the dust. What about it do you understand? Look at everything. Sound. Then you become aware of totality’. And yesterday, we have seen, out of nowhere, 2 material dust rings which they come together between the 2 reactors on the side of the detector.

So, we start, for the first time, analysing in what we see, and how we see, and what is happening and what is about to happen. And now we see the gravitational magnetic field of the reactors creating a matter border, very much like clouds, around themselves and they have a very clear, what do you call it, lining. It's very nice, we see it on the board. It's like 2, what do you call it, quarter spheres, coming together of materials. And so, we can maybe explain part of it, because we see metals.

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Armen was working here and I said: 'If you were working you were drilling a hole in the wood. Not the metal. So there is no sign of the wood but the metal's just there.' So this is happening more and more and then we allow you to see more and more. The whole structure is changing, the whole teaching capacity is changing and I think there will be more news in that line with the health section tomorrow. And there'll be more news from our side here and we'll see, what do you call it? How far we go.

The Solution for Ebola is Delivered

There is another point and this is very, very significant to explain. The Keshe Foundation health section to do with Ebola has gone onto the, at the moment it's 9 o'clock here, and by this morning when we finish, we enter live testing of Ebola by national institute, governmental institute under control of central government. No technology has been taken up so rapidly by anyone, anywhere in the world. So, all the technology we developed is handed over to the government officials and we have been asked directly by the officials, please as of today do not release any more information about the ebola test, till we announce it through the government and through the office, the national office.

Because, apparently, last week when the demonstration of the technology was on the Presidential residence for the technology and there were some news people in the room and they have pointed out in the national papers or in the broadcasting, that they have found the solution for Ebola. By just trying to explain the process, and scientists, as we are aware, from Harvard have been available to assess and they have, according to the institute, they said we take our hats off to anybody who's discovered. So, now we know American universities are aware of this development and it's so simple.

Our guys literally walked in, the professors and the doctors with their pocket and their paper, the same thing as you've done, more or less, in a different way. And at the beginning it was very laughable, but the simplicity of the technology, within a matter of time now we're going for a live test by the officials and you will not hear anything from us, at the request of the government, in what will be developed.

The same technology becomes available to the second nation this week, so that if 1 nation decides not to disperse with the knowledge, the knowledge sits with 2nd and 3rd nation. And as I'm sure the scientists of the advisers of the government were in the presentation, they have already transferred the knowledge into Harvard and other American universities to start the process of development and looking into how it can be done. So, if needs be, we'll release the

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name of the professor from Harvard, so that people can track within his department what is happening and how, so it doesn't become exclusive and money-making and the knowledge is dispersed freely to everybody else.

So, on that front, we know that we expect, if the results are in the correct way, the solution will be fine for not only ebola, the solution will be fine for E coli and one name which I can never mention it's bla-bla-bla... something which happens in a lot of hospitals, or viruses, AIDS virus where they can find a pathway into it, directly and the total of processing will cost less than a few cents for each patient. If the results are correct, it's not just virus of the Ebola which we are looking into, it's totality of virus and at the same time the knowledge we receive back from the university and from the government labs will tell us how to handle the viruses in space in a more effective way, which is connected to or gets connected with the amino acid of the human being.

So, at that level with the progress will be understood. There was a certain confusion with a scientist in the universities and the advisers of the government, that there has been, due to the papers published, nano materials do not affect the microbes. So we don't see why, what is happening. I explained to the scientists in the universities in a simple way. A microbe is in a matter of state of the plasma, viruses connect the matter of state to the energy of the environment of the plasma. So, they behave as a magrav system and one of the things we see with diseases like ebola, is the bleeding and I've explained to them in writing exactly the bleeding.

Why the bleeding is because the energy of the plasma, as I explained last week, extracts the energy from the plasma of the red blood cells and they become small enough that they can, or thin enough, that they can pass through the wall of the blood vessels and we see bleeding with it. The same thing, the same processes, I've written to them, happens with your digestion system. The Ebola absorbs all this energy which is within the body and then the material are very weak to go through and they go through the stomach and that's why we see all sorts of problems like the diarrhea.

Now we understand the problem, so with immediate usage and application of the specific type of serum, what do you call it, The GANS, we link these viruses up, linking to the amino acids of the body and the food, to themselves. So… the link is not there. We don't destroy the virus, we convince the virus to link up to the amino acid protein. If this can be done, so as the virus evolves, it still has energy, it evolves in an amino acid link. It does not evolve in it's gravitational magnetic field. So the GANS should be applicable to any disease, even if they mutate.

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The body has an advantage, because it has entered the body of the man, in connection with amino acid link, now that it's weakened and the body has seen how it's done, the body hopefully will make a serum for itself to defend itself. So, as we say, with one stone we kill 2 birds. One is the reduction of the fact of the disease. Secondly, the body hopefully will have the chance to bring and operate and deliver its own immune system for viruses.

This is a major breakthrough in the world of medicine, if we can do it. I have a warning for pharmaceutical people. I've seen some concerns in the pharmaceutical world, about what we are doing. Once we develop this technology, in different aspects, even with what we're going to announce tomorrow. Not every man will be able to make this, because they don't understand it and what they need. Our technology, as we've done with the Japanese government and the universities in Africa and other institutes around the world, we give you our understanding, our data and our work freely to you. So you do not see us as a danger to take over your market, we give you a new market with much more application.

Inviting Cooperation from Pharmaceuticals

So, in a way we invite pharmaceuticals, health authorities and other institutes to come in and work with us, because at the end of the day you're going to benefit by it. The faster the facilities, the more scientists we have around us, the more we can together develop the technologies which can help, and the beautiful thing with this is we will not see Microsofts, or billionaires then influencing the others. Because every man will make it, every country has availability to the same knowledge, they'll be sharing but in the right way and making money in the correct way so that everybody gets benefit by it.

I see our Chinese friends have translated their Keshe video to video with the Chinese subtitles. Our Chinese colleagues, I know amongst the thousands and millions of you there, you are doing and looking at the Foundation work and you're trying to do things on your own so, please look at the CO2 and then understand what we've done in the videos we released live, you should be able to clean up the environment of the cities in a very rapid way. In the coming time, we will show you how to do it and how you can do it.

In so many ways, in a simple way which most probably you don't understand, I explained earlier: a plasma, or 2 plasmas in 2 small reactors have dictated the positioning of the matter around them. As we've seen with the, what are they called, the crumbs in the sphere shape. This gives you a very clear understanding. You managed to create a CO2 environment GM field around the container of the water.

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Now, for the first time, we have seen how plasmas can create GM field of matter, that they can position them where they like and how they like to be. This is what we see, for example in the rings of Saturn. By the size of the icebergs, and what they are, and in other gaseous planets. This shows, for the first time, that plasmatic magnetic fields of certain matter can be made to be effective where you need it.

We don't need to make the CO2 container. In the coming time, you can make the gravitational magnetic field of whatever you need. I have seen people who went and did a crazy thing and they have started to make the GANS of gold. And they have sent me emails, strangely enough they're Germans. But I've seen them posting it. The Keshe Foundation will run a test like this officially in the coming days, we have requested for gold plated material to be supplied to us, we are waiting for it to become available.

We measure the plates in nano-minuscule, how much gold was used in nano-minuscule and then we positioned them in a condition, and then when we collect the gold vapor, whatever it is as a plasma, we'll measure the scale back on, to see if it is not release of the gold, as we’ve seen with the copper plate, or if it's extraction from the environment. When the data is available, we'll release it to you. Any questions? … (long silence) …I've been talking to myself again...

Dan’s Disclosure pertaining to Gold

Dan: Pertaining to the gold, sir... hello?

Mr Keshe: Hello. I can hear you.

Dan: OK, very good. The gold example that you just gave, I'm using a titanium-based metal, and I have a gold reserve as well, in a crystal form structure.

Mr Keshe: What, you have extracted it?

Dan: Yes. I believe so. Yes.

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Mr. Keshe: Please qualify and quantify the method. Can you explain to us what you've done?

Dan: I can show you what I've done.

Mr. Keshe: Let’s share the screen... Marko is changing something for me. I'm gonna go off so we can...

Dan: I'll share it on the Skype so you can see it on Skype.

Mr Keshe: OK, please... We have a problem with the screen pictures. Maybe we can see it on the live stream... Go back to the live stream please...

Dan: And I have a series of reactors set up as well...

Mr Keshe: Let us go a step at a time. We're trying to link up with your video at the moment... Can we see it? Can anybody see the video?

Rick: Not yet, but we're working on it here.

Vince: It should be coming, just a moment.

Mr Keshe: We're not getting it, we have a problem with the Skype pictures... Too many people on the Skype line I think that's the problem... Go on the live stream, let's look...

Rick: OK, well we do have a picture here.

Mr. Keshe: By the way, while you're trying to get the pictures up, let me explain to you that the Foundation website team as a whole, if you look, are achieving new things. The website forum has changed quite a bit in the past 24 hours. As we said, advertising has become part of the features to raise funds for the research and very soon other materials will change on the

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website and Keshe Foundation Institute as a teaching website is nearly up and running in the coming, maybe a few days. So you can register and become a student at the university and the teachings will go through that way. OK, we see a bucket, that's all we see. Can you explain please?

Dan: are you seeing this now?

Mr Keshe: We see some white material at the bottom of the box.

Vince: Just to be aware, there's going to be some delay on live stream.

Mr Keshe: OK

Rick: There's gonna be a delay, OK.OK.

Dan: This vessel, right here.

Mr Keshe: Yeah. We see white stuff at the bottom of it.

Dan: Yes, that's PPT out of the water. Let me explain the set up. This set up has been here for 5 days. I took the cap off just now. Placed this element in it. This is water from my well that goes through a double carbon system. So there are minerals contained in here. It's good drinking quality water, from my well. OK and what you're noticing in the bottom in the form of crystals are direct PPT from the water utilising this array of configured cells.

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All the materials in these cells are uniform in nature, from the same forging locked, and the configuration in this one was the first cell that I made to condition water. I make a DI water, I guess you could say it's DI water. It's good drinking quality, you could also call it distilled water, but yet it's still a good drinking quality water. I'm trying to stir up and get the bubbles that are just residual, residually stuck to leave, and you can see the minerals. They're non-reversible, so they fall out of the saturation and they don't easily reverse, I can tell you that by experimental value.

I came upon these phenomena with water trying to deal with hydrogen and extracting sound out of the hydrogen. I guess I'd call it a reverse-reverb sound. And so I have a certain reaction here that happened on this cell, and I used maybe a pint of water at a time with the cell years ago. It produces an electrolysis, obviously OK. This little cell produces very little electrolysis. But that's the beauty of it, it produces a very little amount of electrolysis. OK, so I hook it up in reverse to condition it, before I use it so I hook it up the other way...

Mr Keshe: can you show us the gold material you made?

Dan: Yes, I'm gonna make it right before your eyes. I've been trying to work with camera stuff. It doesn't take very long for it to resolve on the bottom. But the temperatures here inside the shop are definitely...

Mr Keshe: So where does the gold come from? Can you explain to us where does the atoms and molecules of plasmatic gold come from?

Dan: I believe the gold is an environmental draw from the environment, open environment. And I actually think the first component is found inside the water of my well, which comes...

Mr Keshe: We're getting broken up pieces, it's not coming clear.

Dan: Hello.

Mr Keshe: We can't hear you, you just come in pieces.

Dan: OK, let me adjust the gain on the computer.

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Vince: I don't think it's your end, someone turned on a minute back, so just trying to mitigate that. How's my voice on Skype there, Mr Keshe?

Mr Keshe: Clear, you're very clear. We hear you clearly.

Vince: I'm very clear? OK, so I'm going to try again, and hopefully you guys can see it this time.

Dan: Should I try a reset Vince?

Vince: Not yet, just stay there.

Dan: OK.

Mr Keshe: So, explain to us please.

Vince: Let me know when the picture's coming though, I'm sharing again.

Dan: OK... Yeah, I got it now... OK, how about now? Can you hear me doctor?

Mr Keshe: Yeah.

Dan: OK, very good. I believe the first component is actually in the water coming out of my well. I believe I have a gold mine of a well.

Mr Keshe: We all have!

Dan: Yes, exactly. As you say, continuously from any point to any point, but I do think there are short-cuts or wormholes that take you different places point to point, quicker than others and a form of time difference. I believe the primary component comes from my well. It's gold, it’s there in saturation, in certain amounts that could probably be observed...

Mr Keshe: Can you extract this and get it to be assessed if it's gold or not? It costs about $150 to $200 to be assessed by SUS international assay organization.

Dan: I can make an extractable amount. Anyways, it's going to sit here, it's going to make an amount on it in 45 minutes. But I've taken this technology for years, I've developed that metal element into that box that I've made. OK? I produce my own materials. This is the same lot material as that, it's a titanium-ali grade 26 material, it was a batch from 1962 airframe flight from a certain base, produced this for airframes and so I found this same grade and tested it by ASAY in Philadelphia by another lot material and the metal looks like this.

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Mr Keshe: Do you nano coat the titanium first?

Dan: I do. I have a series of nano coat process steps. The titanium...

Mr Keshe: No, let me go back. Do you nano coat? Because the way we produce nano materials through caustic is totally different from what you get with the nano coated rings. The nano-coating the way we do in Keshe Foundation is creating plasmas on top of each other, where the other nano-coating is putting paint on. Which is totally different.

Dan: This is not an electroplate process. This is a pure process. I use liquids just to create conditions. I use liquid reactions only to produce a certain level of conditions. I'm not in it for product reactivity, OK? So I...

Mr Keshe: No, no. I just wanted to know how you coated your nano material.

Dan: OK, I'll explain. I extract a few different oxide powders. One of them is rhiconium-oxide, another is titanium-dioxide. I don't extract, but I do buy tin-oxide and anum-oxide. I use these oxides in a dry form on the titanium and a couple of other metals. And when I do that, all I'm doing is producing a condition on the surface with them. Not for reaction purposes. The titanium-dioxide winds up going into a … sub product stream and in that form provides the same for the series reactor. The in-line series reactor that's next in line. The titanium reactor then winds up all the way through the whole series and then I wind up back again with a dry product at the end for recovery, OK? Then I use a process other than a saline process, I have worked with some heavy hydroxides, potassium hydroxide, some different combinations of sodium hydroxides and the like.

I have settled on a 3 step process to yield a fluid that gives me exactly the same result no matter what metal I put it against. The different levels of powder oxides that I use, I condition my other metal surfaces, actually provide for IE printing, or direct magnetic printing spaces. So I'm setting up the condition to magnetically attract whatever picoline I can draw onto 2-D paper. So I use these liquids and I'll take you over here through the lab and I'll show you 30 gallons that comes from this reactor series, right here. And this is modeled after a black hole. That's proportional to the bi-star of our system which is a red dwarf.

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And I collect this stuff in such mass amounts, it is super reactive, it takes the nano coat no matter what you apply it to. I've collected at least 5 gallon carbides here, which are independent. The top layer freezes in the winter only and that means that the liquid is over water. I also have super saturation of water in it. This top layer right here freezes only.

Mr Keshe: how much gold have you extracted yet?

Dan: I'm sorry?

Mr Keshe: how much gold have you managed to extract?

Dan: Let's go back to our reactor.

Mr Keshe: Hello?...

Dan: Yes I’m right here … I'm having a bit of technical difficulties.

Mr Keshe: I just wondered how much visible gold dust or gold plasmas have you managed to extract.

Dan: I can actually see the amounts with my eyes. I tried to get resolutions and optics with the camera in the past couple of weeks...

Mr Keshe: Where is the gold? Floating or sinking at the bottom?

Dan: Yes sir?

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Vince: Sorry, I think Mr Keshe was asking how much have you extracted in total in the entire processes? An estimate?

Dan: I don't know, I always considered it to be a by-product. It wasn't until recently that I physically inspected it. I'd used it so many times I saved the minerals and put those in crystal reactors, resonant tubes. But I can't answer that question because it's a recent discovery inside a process I've been doing for years. You'll notice, I'll try and get it, but the bottom of this has a gold hue to it. You can barely see, it... there we go. You can see what the rest of it looks like, top, bottom, sides and the top.

Dan: do you know that, according to statistics and research, there is more gold in the water than actually there is in the land? So, I know in water wells you find gold, because of the way it gets washed molecularly and atomically down. So if you have managed to extract, we understand that. You can see the gold hue. You can see the gold hue here on the bottom from electrolysis. Electroplating the gold onto the base metal. But I can see it in these ridges, and I just cleaned it off the other day... it comes right off. It's held so loosely it comes right off. There's a little piece of gold right there. A little corner...

Mr Keshe: Yeah, but … (bad signal)

Dan: But I can't quite get the camera.

Mr Keshe: No problem, no problem.

Dan: Yeah, I can reproduce this, oh yeah.

Mr Keshe: Is it... gold extracted from the water is something we...

(bad signal)

Dan:...of my old work. Here's the gold. I'm gonna show you the colour difference.

Mr Keshe: I can see the yellow dust, yeah.

Dan: The difference is a (bad signal)... base metal, it stays that way,

Mr Keshe: If we could ascertain what it is exactly, not just because it looks like gold.

Dan: but this is in a baked on form, I think... this is electroplated on like gold extracted from the cathode side. This is the anode.

Mr Keshe: Yes, we're looking. We're looking, we see, what can you show us?

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Vince: just hold on a second, I think they're looking, so (laughs)

Dan: OK, so let me show you this reactor. This particular reactor here, because all of these reactors wind up becoming gold plated, except for platinum, in the configurations I use. The platinum remains with its original colour. I get some amazing results when I speed the reaction up. But the results don't wind up on the cathode or the anode this time, because there's much more energy being excited, much more excitation I should say. Let me go ahead and turn this one on. I have a reactor series that I can show the different states of hydrogen. I just gotta go in the other lab and grab some, but each one of these different reactors shows difference in the manner in which it creates a cloud, OK?

This reactor flashed real quick. It's about 64 degrees air temp. I'll get closer so you can see the flash. OK, time 0, time +1. It flashes real quick. The production in this particular cell is high production but the quality in the cloud. It just started, now I've been running these reactions, this is nothing but water in here, just water. Once the minerals are in a certain PPT amount versus the liquid, you have high reactivity in the same jar of water. Now, you'll notice the clouds look milky on this particular reactor.

That's because this reactor is causing the hydrogen to exhibit the properties of oil. You're looking here at hydrogen mimicking oil in the water. But you'll notice it does eventually cloud the whole thing. A small auroral cloud of density gathering here above the minerals. So that's one, we'll turn that one off. That's 12Volts DC, 7.1 amps. It does get hot because I don't have the AC re-circulation circuit on here. Because...

Mr Keshe: You developed a process... to extract gold... from the water?

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Dan: OK, this is the... Yes sir, yes I did. A complete reactor series process. And not just gold either, sulphurs and other big ones that I believe is resulting, and there's a couple of other ones, I think my source has a fraction of excitation from molybdenum also...

Mr Keshe: This is mainly chemical reaction, isn't it?

Dan: You see the cloud has dissipated; we'll wait a couple more seconds for that. No, no. No chemical reaction here, this is just water and the cathode minerals that are supersaturated on it. I have this back here which is the same, but I've mimicked these catalysts to produce the catalysts. OK, so here's the reactor set up. It's a little bit cloudy because the minerals are closer to being out of super-saturation. Not because of bubbles. OK? So we're stepping back the concentration of super-saturation so it's eroded to one.

Now, this one, you'll notice the cloud starts to release bubbles here, it's a different kind of excitation going on because there are larger bubbles. So you have different concentration of oxygen in this one. This one is mainly an oxygen creator, notice the cloud structure, it doesn't start here and grow, it literally just starts over the whole and becomes more vibrant. In this oxygen, I have extreme ultra-violet being created because I have O3 coming off of this and for that reason I'm not gonna run it too long.

But you'll notice the hydrogen bubbles that do saturate and become suspended, they don't stay here long. The surface tension doesn't hold them and they flee rapidly, which causes a vapor of the water to be carried up here and deposited as a vapor, but instead of this is a running vapor. So it started out as a running vapor not as a collection of vapours that condensed and gravitationally moved, their confluent in gravitational terms. You'll notice that the still has no defined cloud structure, OK? Throughout. You'll have to take my thing here, we've got some imaging in the background. So we'll turn this one off.

Development here. We see with this one, again, no temperature, but we have a darkening effect of the electroplated gold process here and there's also a scale, let's scrape it off. There's a scale effect too, OK? And that's all on the negative, that's all on a pole. So we have a single shaft exhibiting a DC pulse and we don't have the AC component picking it up yet. So we'll go up to the next reactor. None of these shapes, none of these links, all of this stuff has been calculated, this is not hodge-podge, except for this butyl rubber that you see here. There's 2 rings of butyl

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here and then there's 2 more underneath here. Here and 2 more here. It's just because I didn't cut and form the PTFE ones (bad signal)

OK, so we'll go ahead and hook this one up. Stand by 1. Gotta make sure the camera's looking correctly. So I can test that the hydrogen exists in the full primary state, that we need to concern ourselves, it's solids, liquids and gas plasma. Absolutely in congruence with everything you say. I have a different language and nomenclature. OK so, zoom in, OK so we'll start this time, 0 start. Now mind you, you're seeing this time all different reaction rates and they're all based on mass and surface area, OK? And this one, it exhibits the quality of metal. The first one exhibited the quality of oil and this one actually exhibits the quality of gas. What you can notice is, it actually does form a density cloud here. You can't tell the transition, OK? But it does eventually consume density levels and the density levels will keep increasing until you can't see the object...

Some Interesting info on the Oil Industry

Mr Keshe: I was gonna ask you a question, have you ever processed in your lab, anything like oil? What you call gasoline or fuel for a car to see what material you have in it?

Dan: I have 3 laboratories, this 1 I'm standing in is my clean construction laboratory, I consider the dirt in here clean. The biologicals love to visit me in here, from outside. So they come in. Spiders mostly like to gather around these reactors when I turn them on.

Mr Keshe: No, what I want to know: have you ever tested oil? What do you call it? Gasoline. Have you ever tested to see what composition of material is in it?

Dan: Yeah, I'm in the drilling business, the oil business. The under sea construction business...

Mr Keshe: And what is the level of uranium in your oil?

Dan: What oil from what part of the world?

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Mr Keshe: Anywhere from any part of the world the majority of the oil we see residue of uranium and radioactive materials. Through the process you have extracted what is is and how much, for example, you have? You know, one of the reasons they do the land decontamination now, if you buy a property which there is oil on it or there used to be a petrol station, the earth has to be removed to 4meters to 6meters in Europe now.

One of the reasons is that unknown to the public there are, like the way you've seen gold in your water from your well, as the oil is produced on top of the surface of the lakes and ocean and converts into amino acid and it goes through the motion of the waves, it gets mixed up then it settles on the bottom of the lakes or the rivers or the oceans and then it goes through the different layers of the earth, it not only gets filtered but it absorbs what can not become life, it absorbs attaches itself to other minerals on its path until it gets a sink pump, just sinks into a cavity in the lower layers of the earth. Going through the levels of the earth it absorbs and washes microscopic or atomic levels of different materials on its path, and in the oil industry extraction of the radioactive materials is something which is never considered, because it's very costly.

Secondly, for the amount of material used, it has no value in a way to do it, or doesn't compensate for it. So, in the oil industry at the present, they allow all the radioactive materials, or chemically radioactive materials to go in the fuel which is sold as a gasoline. One of the reasons that people don't understand why you need to dig so many meters of oil from the earth, from the ground after these stations, is because when you refuel the car with the hand pump of the fuel, you are literally dropping bits of nuclear material of the fuel which isn't cleaned up in the refining process because it's too expensive.

And this is part of the contamination which is perceived after spray contamination, we put these radioactive materials back into the atmosphere and we never talk about it because it's a very, very, very unpleasant to tell people we're blowing back plutonium from the exhaust of the car. Nobody will drive a car. Let me tell you how I know this, I used to be in the oil business and part of one of my companies, we used to deal with refining oil and crude oil years ago, so I looked at it, how can we refine without expenses, so much expenses to extract all this we make money, but extracting radioactive materials was not profitable. Let me give you news, that a lot of people listen to.

Dan: 8 years ago, 8 years ago I was asked to design a FPSO, which is oil refining over the water, setting up the pattern, and they asked me in 6 weeks to do that and they asked me to upload a tier 6 level technology, which didn't mean anything practically to me then, but it does now. So I did, in 6 weeks I produced prints to build and assemble ready made pieces and to

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utilise turbine technology and centripetal force machines and it was so revolutionary, the output numbers, that they decided to go back to the conventional drawing board.

I understand what you're talking about, I didn't understand exactly the full extent of your question. Yes, I'm used to seeing it in trillions, OK? 0.000001 base quantities and a slight bit above. Yes the residual materials there were living proof that dinosaurs existed and were air breathers and obtained water, so we've got dino water, as you say, in our bodies. The residual radiation and the recycling of that radiation, as you so elegantly stated, is the condition that exists, so therefore like that exists, the others exist and multiple species in between exist.

Mr Keshe: Yeah, but what it is in the oil industry, the extraction of radioactive materials is not considered to be financially and practically viable. And one of the things I was explaining in the talk I was giving on Saturday in a conference and to the Knowledge Seekers, is that no one knows, except elite in the oil industry, that for example in 1 barrel of oil you pay $100 for at the moment roughly, about 47% of this material comes to the refined oil or gasoline or whatever you use for different kinds of burning of fuel. The other material in the residue, as you've shown in your system, where you have got from the water in your water well, contains the most rare earth materials.

So what this means, a $100 barrel of oil, about 3% of the barrel of oil, is very, very, very expensive materials. Which makes millions for refineries. Refineries make money out of these rare earth materials and other by-products. So $100 barrel of oil, in fact at the end runs into millions plus profitable material, when you look at the way it's processed. And what they sell to public as gasoline, it should be given to you, for example how much do you pay to tank your fuel? Because the oil industry makes such a huge amount of profit out of oil, the residual material that is in the oil, that they have to give you the oil free.

But because nobody is aware of it, that surplus 3kg out of the barrel, the money off it always goes into the waste, it's cleaned up later on in a huge million dollar process, because some of the rare earth materials, are about 5,6, 10,000 dollars per milligram. So the process is, I always say to people, if the world population decides to say for a month we're not touching the fuel, we don't use any fuel, you'll find the fuel station people, the oil industry people will give you a full tank plus $200 cash. The other company will give you a full tank of fuel plus $500 cash. Because the money made on that surplus is so huge that it's worth their while to do so. But they make a situation that it's gonna be so scarce, that we tank and we pay more and more for it.

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My opinion, when I used to be in this game for a long time, in the oil industry and the oil business was part of one of my companies, was when people become aware of what we're doing they exploited the oil companies. The fuel should be given to man as fuel. Now we've brought the plasma technology, it's finished – its obsolete. So we see that there's no need for fuel consumption, now you learn how to do it and we learn more. I always said to my colleagues, when people understand that we have to pay them for them to use our fuel, because, let me explain to you the reason.

If you have a barrel of oil and at the end of it 40%, 45% is there and not taken away, the refineries will be clocked off with this material. What can we do? We can't put it back in the sea. So a false market is created, because if people say 'we don't want to touch the fuel anymore,' what are the refineries gonna do? We need more consumers next to every position in every refinery. So the refining process, the refineries always used to say to the people around us, you know the people are so unaware, the market has been made so unimaginary, we can tell them $1000 a litre, because they want to go from A to B they pay $1000 a litre. But in fact we should pay you $10 to get the rubbish out of our refineries otherwise we can't make money. And this is what is not understood by people.

Refining business, if it doesn't get rid of its waste material which they sell to you, and you're prepared to pay half of the wages you earn a week to be able to go to work and earn the other half, should be given to people plus money on top. I used to be in this game and now that we open the plasma technology we show that you can travel with a few cents, you'll find out, if events go the way they should, refinery companies will pay you to buy fuel from them. Give you a fuel tank free plus $100, $200. This I explained in my talk last week and to the Knowledge Seekers. This hype that oil was made off the dinosaurs and there were few dinosaurs that died, we have already burned every single oil from the dinosaurs in the first 10 years of the oil industry.

We have shown it, we published the oil thing on the website. This is that oil is not created by animals, oil is a natural process, that's what you see on your CO2 containers, it's a natural process. When people find out that the wool has been pulled over their eyes in the past 20-30 years, with inflating oil from a few cents to a few dollars, I think a lot of people have to answer for a lot of things. And the oil industry...

Dan: I couldn't agree with you stronger, sir.

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Mr Keshe: No, I don't talk because I see people make comments about this and that, I talk because I used to handle hundreds of thousands of barrels of oil a day as part of my own companies' organization and refine the material. I always said, people are so unaware of what the oil industry's doing to them, we are not just giving you the poisoning, we are actually getting you to pay us to get rid of our poison. So, in the process...

Dan: I've been trying to get away from it, for 15 years and...

Mr Keshe: Now you have an option, the option is there.

Rick: I'll tell you my story about that too, which is I'm allergic to oil after being a mechanic for about 40 years, and I'm so allergic that a little smudge of oil on my skin will cause my skin to bleed. So essentially, I bleed when I touch oil now and I'm one of the casualties of this obsession with oil that we do have. There's many people like me. Just on the island that I live on there's 2 mechanics each year that get this environmental sensitivity, because of their association with different oil by-products and all the contaminants that are involved in all that. So it affects people both in the physical and health...

Mr Keshe: I think the oil industry and oil nations have to come clean with this situation. That this is the process, when it comes to it we now you've seen 2 reactors, you've made the materials for it using your own pots and whatever to make your own reactor. In the coming time, you'll create your own energy and your own motion. And then we'll start laughing about how we allowed others to pull such wool over our eyes and rob us. There are material in oil which are needed for industry and daily life, charge the right price for it no problem.

But this is again what I explained about before about the washing of the wool, you pay for the wool so expensive, but then the real wealth gets left inside the wool which gets washed and nobody knows about it. Being in that company for years and knowing about it, they call me 'an insider', but I'm not an insider, I made money out of it, made a lot of people rich with it, I made my staff live a normal good life. But sooner or later this comes to an end, it has to come to an end. One of the reasons we opened the lab last week was to bring it to an end.

The Importance of National Security

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People of the oil industry, if they dare to watch what's sitting there, and people of the defense industry, if they dare to understand what I explained at the beginning of this session, you put any fast top, top space reactor or whatever you like to destroy another man, it can be taken out. But on the other hand, we have, I always say I support defense or protection of peoples civil rights in a very strong way through national security.

I was explaining to Knowledge Seekers the other day, if you don't have that strong national security police force or secret police which works for the benefit of humanity, not if you abuse it, we won't have an easy life, leave our house and go back to it and everything will be there, it will be stripped to the bone. But I don't see any reason for spending, a country which has hardly any finance to feed its people, to spend money on arms just because factories in America or Europe have people to feed and I don't see any reason for controlling the line of life by arms.

In a way, if people understood, like our Chinese colleagues and Chinese friends and other colleagues around the world who work with us with this technology and so very rapidly understand, is that very soon man has to come to an agreement about how not to produce any arms. But on the other hand we need the national forces not to be in the situation we are in in the Middle East at the moment. Crisis beyond imagination, but if the national government has totality, and had the tools to stop this horrendous work of animals, then none of us have security.

But on the other hand where do you think all of these things have come from? Nations charging other nations and them not knowing. I think the best example of this abuse of man by a nation comes from the island of Haiti, they were one of the first nations free, long before America, but till 4 or 5 years ago when they had the hurricane and the earthquake and they lost most of their assets, then we found out the French government said ‘you don't need to pay us for the freedom you had 250 years ago’.

So nobody said how come the Dominican Republic next door is so wealthy and Haiti is so poor? An imaginary line on the floor… Because the French nation was bleeding them for the freedom it gave them 250 years ago in the constitution. Over 80% of the income of Haiti was going into the pocket of the French national government.

These things have to be opened up, we have to change the situation and in being able to do changing things, man should be able to support himself now. But on the other hand, I was talking to my wife yesterday, that me being in 30 years of this kind of work, at such a high level was deliberate for me to be able to understand how things can be changed.

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The production of gold in the water in your house, I tell you one thing, dig 50km around your house, as the water is probably coming from 50km around your area, you'll find a gold mine. Because what you get in your water gets washed from the rainwater, down underground and that's how it comes. You understand the process, so it's no different if it's uranium or plutonium.

But in the oil industry we allow the uranium to come out but they say we need to clean the land. Yes, clean lands, but tell people why you're cleaning fuel stations. I'm not sensitive to this position, but I know because I've sat on the boards and I've sat on being owners of these kinds of companies, 20 plus years ago. I never agreed with it but it was part of the structure. This is part of what we understood and what we understand.

Dan reveals more

Dan: Yeah, I've been in an international corporate conglomeration entity for 16 years now, I understand exactly the nature that you're speaking about, intrinsically. Which led me to finalise the quest that I started on when I was 14 years old. I opened my first corporation, we did remediation recycling of lands, it was before recycling was big, and at that time myself, my cousin and his 4 strong-backed friends we literally collected paper, glass, plastic and I built an open reactor system.

When I was 16 years old I had over 200 biological reactors that were functioning with each other. I've been doing this for a long time and I have, this is my control for the gold test, this is pressure formed on aluminium, gold, 99.97% purity, when I run this, you'll notice that the water with its mineral constituents present here, has turned to a gold colour and that's not by accident. What you see here is the darker scum and the other is what we had super-saturated as gold. You're looking at the gold right there. So...

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02:04:46 Mr Keshe: I can't see your pictures! We don't see the pictures you're trying to share with us.

Rick: (bad signal) Listen, there's a lag there.

Mr Keshe: you know something that is very strange? It's that the gold is one of the simplest metals to make.

Dan: Right. You're looking at gold floating. This is my control substance; I did this for the first time 7 years ago. I made this reactor series, at that time, in series. But this is my control substance, so what I did was I ran through a chained series, I conditioned the water. Right, I used the one gold reactor, which is at the bottom or at the top of the flip over the Ghz scale, which is Hertz scale, less than 10.

That's what this reactor is, you don't see much reactivity, but it's ordering the gold, it's resonating with the gold frequency, this one is. So it's causing the gold to fall out in parts in PPT so it draws its energy to the anode, and here's my control. But you can't see the amount that's been made by the reactor series until you put this is the water and you test it, because this is gold, this is a pressure processor, with high aluminium purity also, this element that's sandwiched in here. And none of these things are to be dismissed, it's got 2 capacitors on it, these 2 tubes. It's got a nano wire in there that's sandwiched with the independent single wire that's looped between the 2 here, so you can see the water that's in the tube. And then I turn this on and you can see the difference in colour, because here's the one behind it as an example. They were different shades before, but now you can see the drama.

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I also had dirt on all the elements, no problem, you can see it fall. I just disturbed the surface on the meniscus where it collects, magnetically it stands there and I bumped it and now it's fallen down. It's now obtaining buoyancy at some point, continuing its acceleration but being deccelerated by the liquid in here. OK. Now this gold, it's gold. I know this because of a number of different tests. As easy as it is to make, the tests are just as easy to prove without assay. You can do centrifugal force tests and some really heavy elements line right up in the proper position.

Rick: I'd like to just… Dan?

Dan: There was dirt on my fingers, so that's the dark stuff, that's amino acid.

Rick: I was just going to interject, that I used to be, in my old days, a gold panning champion and I am aware of the idea that gold can float on the surface. And one of the tricks the miners used was to put a drop of soap in the water in your gold pan, and that helps the fine gold drop down to the bottom.

Another side line is there's a river near here called the Sombrio river, and it means 'glittering colours' in Spanish and it's because of the gold that's in the area gets pounded by the river when it gets close to the ocean and gets suspended in eddies, down in the calmer parts of the water, close to the ocean. So you get a golden hue on the water and especially because of the oil from the salmon that are running as well, you get both factors allow the finest gold powder to actually sit on the surface. It's like a miracle. It's one of the heaviest metals, yet in a fine powder, almost a nano state, maybe a nano state, it floats. So just thought I'd put that in there are confirmation of the floating part of gold.

Dan: It’s gravitational component is adjusted. It’s gravitational component was just arrested or conditioned to be null and void in that particular bubble, in that particular surface tension. In coalescing and resonating with the upper and lower surface tensions of overlie and underlie. So what you're seeing right here, to answer the first question, how much gold, reactor water here, I started out with a couple of days, I energised it, and some people who are here today saw it and this was nothing but high drinking quality water for reverse osmosis of my water system. Reverse osmosis goes to my sink.

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This what we've done before today, was less than 30minutes, and the trick that we just went through, the series, I've done it 3 times. I think James witnessed the first one last night and this is actually the collection result, this is how you collect it, I went through the series of reactors, there's 3 in the series. There's one primary, as you described, this is the link with the matter state. When I put this in here, the gold comes off here and suspends, as you would think transfers to a liquid for electrolysis process. i.e. my chemical system is now conditioned to give me a result of my nano condition.

Mr Keshe: Would you like to...

Dan: I put this in here, the video was off, I charged it...

Mr Keshe: would you like to sell your gold to the national governments... (bad signal) would you like to sell your gold to the national governments, that they create from the water and creating so much war for nothing?

Dan: We could talk in private.

Mr Keshe: Hahaha… Why? Everything with us is public.

Dan: We could talk about that in private, so we could have a perfect roll out plan. Listen to what I'm trying to tell you, please.

Mr Keshe: (laughs)

Dan: I'm a private man, I like to be well spoken when in front of an audience.

Mr Keshe: No problem, just what I am trying to say...

Dan: I don't mean to offend.

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Mr Keshe: No, no. What I'm trying to explain, I think you missed the point, is that making the gold is so easy, as you showed it and then we show it in our plasma technology. There is no reason for creating war and hungers for it, I think you missed the point.

Dan: yes sir, I agree.

Mr Keshe: So shall we tell the governments so they don't have to empty the central banks?

Dan: You have a peace initiative. Sir, you have a peace initiative and I completely agree.

Mr Keshe: Carry on. Let them understand.

Dan: Sure, I love it. Let's form a coalition and do that.

Mr Keshe: Go ahead, explain.

Dan: OK. I need to back up since this is the conditioning phase, I ran the 3 reactors. I ran this one first, this is the beginning of the conditioning phase. It wants to mimic its third quality automatically and then I scintillate it with this, OK, and now the gold is in solution, just like this solution back here. This has got a catalyst that I developed to make this quicker, I just never thought I'd actually use it. Then I take my conditioning reactor, this is the third in the series and this is the fourth one in the series, the scintillation effect.

So basically I have my starship combination in 4 reactors. And this here is my test, so I put this in the water. Let me clip it in here, so we have no problems with it. It doesn't touch the side of the reactor except for its ground point, like that. And we touch one lead to it. Now it's already got PPT on the gold, I'm not gonna clean it off, but I'll let you know there's already a build up of PPT, or 'slack' as I've been calling it.

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Now we have our element in here, and we super-charge this element with the exact same current as the other ones. We haven't changed anything, we've held voltage and amperage constant. The individual draw off of these individuals are different. You'll notice it doesn't seem like there's too much happening. But it's literally taking the gold and suspending it in the water on that plate, and the reverse of that is the extraction of an oxide, I'll take it out now and show you the oxide.

I run that cell for 30-45 seconds, each one of these cells doesn't have to run for more than 45 seconds. There's a white substance here and you can wipe it off. It's like a chalky substance OK. And I've come to determine what this substance is by testing an industrial grade substance.

Zirconium oxide with 1% quartz crystal

It's zirconium oxide. This is zirconium oxide with 1% quartz crystal material, easy to separate that material and its compounds, but anyway the product result on this test reactor is what I believe to be a mixture of zirconium oxide and dirty dozen, a bakers dozen with zirconium oxide as the leader. Now, we did what we did already, the gold has fallen down from the meniscus and the free radicals from the electrolysis process have absorbed the amino acids, or converted them or mutated them and in the bottom the crystals haven't changed.

There's zero reactivity in this crystal state. You can tell the gold is right there in a collectible amount. I has a surplus because there was some on this PTFE as I didn't pull it gently enough and it washed off. You can see one single particle of it stuck there to the right. You see it? That's the gold. Stuck there on the corner of the PTFE. As I pulled it out of the slack water.

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So yeah, I love what you're saying absolutely, I wouldn't change a thing and I believe I have a ready-made solution right here. With this water, I'm gonna cap it, this has been a continued experiment or methodology disclosure. Tomorrow I'll set up a gravity filter and tape and collect both the mineral content and the gold content.

That's still circulating in here, it's got super laevo-dextro characteristics, so you set in motion the laevo and it likes to stay there a long time. You set in in the motion of dextro and these constituents are acting like the orbs of plasma, mimicking them. I ordered the flow, but when the flow stops rotating it'll be a chaotic sine wave over cosine wave in every direction till it reaches homeostasis and clarifies.

I'm understanding that the next test on my gold GANS, the same liquid hasn't finished clarifying and I keep disturbing it. This is a test for correlation of this. This doesn't change colour, it's independent of temperature, I can't freeze it, I can only try at -40 degrees and I can't make the reactors work inside this. Likewise, this reactor which was quite visible, and gold is an interesting character, we understand its electric properties because we used the heck out of it in a matter state. I put this in here and it gives zero reactivity. I put the others in there now that I have a certain concentration of constituents, none of these will react inside there now.

So I could show in the one in the back, how I used these constituents in a dry form to put on those zirconium dioxide balls right there. What gave me the idea was the test. The test yielded a product of dioxide, so what did I do? I spent 3 years collecting it. Then I had it shipped off and I've got 6 5gallon buckets left of these materials. These materials are in 2 different sizes, I call 1 inner boundary catalyst, which are the small ones, and the outer boundary catalysts are the big ones. There are a rough orbital shape, imperfect, no 2 alike. There are a range of displacements which provided the substrate materials for this ceramic to be made. The prepared substrates. 1 of the mixes of substrates I used was this mix, a 4000degree constituent zirconium oxide and quartz crystal and I took an account of this being more reactive than that, so I put it at a 1:3 ratio.

Mr Keshe: OK, we're going back to...

Dan: I could go on and on and on.

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Mr Keshe: OK, thank you very much; we'll use your knowledge again next week. We learned from you, you have a lifetime of experience there.

We go back to Marko for his teaching session. No, no. We're doing this, you can't escape from this! Thank you very much for your time and thank you for teaching us. We are all students of life as we always say. Marko is getting ready.

Dan: Thank you.

Mr Keshe: You're quite welcome. Marko will start his part of teaching. Are you ready? Have you transferred it through? Rick can you load up to show Marko's section.

Rick: yes I'm ready. We start at the top. Take it from the top OK. Thank you Mr Keshe and thank you too Dan for the demonstration of your technology. It was intriguing for many people. Lots of questions about what that was about. It's based on some pretty solid stuff. Thank you and thank you Mr Keshe for that interaction. Marko are you ready?

Marko’s Presentation

02:25:38 Marko: Hello. Yeah I'm ready to go. We are getting images here with a little bit of delay, so how can we arrange it. Can I tell you the numbers of the pages.

Rick: OK, we can try that, sure... Yeah. Does it work for you?

Marko:So let's go step by step, page by page through this presentation. I'll tell you the number of the page and you change it when I tell you.

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Marko: The first page. The Keshe Foundation is working with Space Technology and all development is focused to research in space and what we're doing here.

Page 2, the Spaceship institute is teaching part of the Keshe Foundation and we are here to learn and share knowledge. Go to page number 3, we are a little bit delayed...

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OK, anyway I want to make a connection from physics we learned in high school and universities, to make a connection to the plasma technology we learn here. Page 3, I try to show the structure of matter in particle physics. You can go from molecule, to atom to nucleus to proton, and inside the proton or electron there are quarks, the smallest particles are quarks, that's how they're explained in particle physics. If you go to page 4 we can see the measures of these fundamental particles.

Atoms are 10 to -8 centimeters, nucleus of an atom is 10 to -12, proton 10 to -13 and quark is 10 to -14 centimeters. You can imagine these are very small particles and I'd ask how can we observe them or how can they know their properties. It's very difficult to observe them, also the electron is 10 to -18 meter diameter, so it's very difficult to observe this. We are a bit delayed.

So if we go to next page 5, the structure of a helium atom. The nucleus is 1 centimeter, 10 to the -15 meter and this is very, very small. Page 6 there is the structure of the neutron, how the explain it in particle physics: they have quarks inside the neutron, up quarks, down quarks... gluons… bosons… I don't want to go to this, I just want to show the difference how we look at plasma and how mainstream physics is looking at it.

If you go to number 6 here, I show what some description about neutron, neutron is unstable on its own. It has a lifetime decay time of 14 minutes and it decays to proton and electron and some neutrino, or there is another decay proton, electron and also gamma radiation. That's from mainstream physics and here on page 8 it shows the decay of the neutron to the proton and electron and release of energy. So we are looking from plasma point of view, in the same way. It also decays to a proton and electron. Mr Keshe explained in the first book and in mainstream physics they use antimatter term, and we are on page 9...

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Rick are we at number 9 at the moment, we are not sure if you show the right picture.

Rick: You want the antimatter in particle physics? Sorry, OK. Got that

Marko: In particle physics they use the expression antimatter, I don't want to explain it, I just want show what they use. In antimatter particle composed of antiparticles, which have mass as particles of matter but the opposite charge and other properties such as Byron number and such things.

And when they encounter between particles they annihilate themselves, and here's the definition of annihilation and another if you go to 10, dark matter. In cosmology and astronomy they use the expression dark matter, which is some kind of hypothetical matter that is used in astronomy and most of our Universe, they are explaining is composed of dark matter..... Next one, and here let's start with the explanation how we look at the plasma.

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In the first book Mr Keshe explained about matter, antimatter and dark matter. That's why in the first book the terminology is adapted to the terminology of mainstream physics. What I showed you in previous pictures is just to make an easier relation between mainstream physics and plasma physics that Mr Keshe is trying to explain to us. So in the first book there were explanations with expressions like antimatter, dark matter and matter.

And if we look at it, in this picture it is composed from antimatter, dark matter and matter. This is the explanation from first book. So it's easier to understand. Antimatter we know from particle physics and dark matter is from cosmology and physicists are not using it in small particles, but here you can see dark matter or energy inside of plasma. As it was explained before, the property of a neutron when it's on its own is on page 11, we can see decay from the plasma of the neutron and neutron decays to electron and proton and some residual of light.

And the structure of the proton and electron are the same, they have all of this sub particles inside the electron and proton there is still antimatter, dark matter and matter. If you go to next page 13, we can see a little different picture, the same but with different terminology.

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Antimatter is not the right terminology because there is nothing anti in this matter, actually this is the principal matter where everything starts in plasma. That's why in the second and third books Mr Keshe went to different explanation we are using this understanding now, the structure of plasma is composed of principal matter or energy, that radiates out, loses some of its strength, transfers to transition matter or energy and further on when it loses more of its strength it comes to its matter strength.

That's the point when we can observe these fields with our sensors. But the source of principal matter are magnetic fields, when magnetic fields interact they create gravitational fields and magnetic fields, and this interaction creates principal matter, transition matter and matter. So the source of all the matter are still magnetic fields.

If you go to number 14, in this picture is shown the light as a plasma when light goes from one position to another it transfers from spherical plasma to cylindrical plasma because it has less friction to travel in space.

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And this cylindrical plasma has in the middle, where we see red, like principal matter in the center and black transition matter radiating out and matter on the edges. Light has this very interesting property, it changes when it travels through different environments, when it travels through transition energy environment, the part on the transitional energy field comes on the surface so it creates less friction and it loses less energy when it interacts with its environment. Number 15, here is the structure of the spherical plasma, the way we understand it now.

We have the principal fields in the center, this radiates out and slowly loses its energy and becomes transition energy and on the edge we come to the matter level and it creates a magnetosphere in a matter strength field. So this is like a coulomb barrier or magnetosphere of the planet or the heliosphere of the solar system. It's always the same thing, it's still some kind of barrier, just using different names. So that's our understanding of plasma, I hope you understand it.

Any questions, here is the presentation in 2 D, but we should see it in 3 D picture. Let's look what we are doing in our lab, go to the next picture. We see a mobile phone, with this simple

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thing we can get all the materials we need to start experimenting in the lab. If we open the battery of this phone, go to picture number 17. We get copper sheets out of this battery and we can nano-coat these copper sheets. We explained the nano-coating procedure in our previous workshop, so I will not go into details.

We go to picture 18, we see the nano-coated material and we will use this nano-coated material in the next step. Let's go to 19, it's another picture of nano-coated material. I want to show this picture so you have some kind of better understanding of what we are doing here in the lab. Picture 20, you see another nano-coated material, number 21 shows nano-coated copper wire from very close distance. We were explaining this nano-coating and how we've done this and the structure in the previous workshop. So if you are interested in this you can go to the Internet and search for the previous workshops. On the next picture 22, is shown bone as a nano structure.

We discussed this in health workshops, it was explained in a detailed way. Bone is a nano structure. I've shown this to compare it with nano-coated wire, it's a similar structure. If you go to the next 23, there is another picture of a nano structure for better understanding, it's gap material and you have layers and layers of gap material so that's how you get nano structure on copper wire or sheets or whatever.

Go to 24, you can see nano-coating on cola bottles, I think people who are following us have done this experiment and have reached nano-coating on copper inside cola bottles. One interesting thing that you observed is that the plastic of the cola bottles is also nano-coated. Let's go to 25, here is a picture of nano-coated wires that we use in GANS production cells. On the next picture 26 we see these GANS production cells. This is our first set up in our lab. So let's go quite quick through this set up.

27 shows only one bottle in this set up, we can see a collection of GANS in one cell. On 28 you can see fat on the top of one of the cells, Mr Keshe also explained this an hour ago about how oil is created in our planet, and this was disclosed also in one of our papers on the web page of Keshe Foundation. Let's go to 29, it is another picture of this fat on top of the cells, the people who are doing experiments at home can observe this. Everybody can check this, it's a quite easy process, I think it's not difficult for you to replicate these experiments.

On the next, number 30, it's another GANS set up for copper oxide. Number 31 is only one cell, which is a close picture of it. Number 32 is another fat on the top, but a different structure of the fat. Go to 33, it's a collection of GANS. What we are collecting out of our cells in this picture is

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copper-oxide GANS and on the next 34, it's different colour, it's all the set ups are not producing the same material, they observe a bit more or less of energy so we observe different colours of GANS material. There are also a mixture of different GANS, because our set ups are not only for 1 GANS, they collect a mixture of GANS from the environment.

Let's go to 35, here is a collection of different GANS and GANS set-up. Number 36 is a concentrated collection of GANS, just to show that this is the first or second step in the process, you can collect this GANS material and use GANS in different ways in the next step. So, about GANS, we were talking a lot in previous workshops. But let's explain again what GANS is.

GANS is a plasma. When I showed you the pictures from mainstream physics about plasma and structure and how they explain that electron is plasma and proton is plasma, but they cannot see electron or proton. But here we can observe this GANS material, which is gas in a nano state, we can observe with our own eyes, if you go close to it you see small spheres, particles, these particles is one entity, one plasma.

We see this plasma because of interaction with magnetic gravitational fields in the center of the plasma, say copper oxide. When this gravitational magnetic field interacts with environmental magnetic fields they create this magnetosphere and this magnetosphere is observable to us. So, we see GANS material because the gravitational magnetic field of GANS, but we see the matter like atom because of gravitational magnetic fields of the environment, they are much stronger when interact with normal matter.

Because normal has inside plasma of proton, plasma of electron and when these 2 interact they create residual entity, which creates another magnetosphere of the atom and this interaction again with gravitational magnetic fields of the environment creates a magnetosphere and so that we can observe atom. But this is in a much lower strength, that's why it's smaller, but with GANS the magnetosphere expands, that’s why we can observe GANS. I hope it's clear enough.

Let's go to 37, different collection of GANS in a nano state, plasma state. Number 38, again another GANS with a different colour. Number 39 another set up for GANS production, you can see in some cells we collect CO2 GANS, in some of the cells CH3 GANS. If you go to number 40, you can see that when you connect the power consumer or light you can light an LED with this cell. Energy production is part of this process. Because when matter transfers to GANS it's releases energy that is not needed, the energy that was holding together the proton or electron. This interaction, gravitational magnetic field together is not needed any more. They come

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together and create one entity, they release energy, we collect this energy and they can light LED. We can use this system for energy production.

If you go to picture 41, you can see again different types of fat, this fat can be used in the next steps for health applications, for food production, we will explain this in the next workshops. So number 42, again fat on the top of the cell, number 43 these are just different set ups, I'm sure people doing the experiments at home can show 1000s of pictures, everybody can do this at home.

44 different fat on the top. 45 another set up for GANS production. 46 we can see also that gas is coming from the top of the cell. Number 47 again a close picture of 1 cell, we see CO2 GANS and gas on the top. 48, another picture of a top layer of fat. 49 again, fat. Number 50 we have GANS collection, different GANS. Copper oxide, CO2 and CH3 and we can use this GANS in the next steps. This is quite a lot of pictures. Just go quickly to show what we are collecting in our lab.

These are just simple set ups and we are collecting this. Most of you can collect this at home also. And it was for people who are not doing this set up, there is a GANS CO2 capturing kit to buy on the Keshe Foundation website. It's easy to set up. Let's go quickly to number 60, here is a black page. It's a video here, I think it will be able to show how we can use these GANS. Right click and you have the possibility to start the video.

You can see the power cells, these are the power cells that Armen made. There are GANS inside and different nano materials. Or you can go to the youtube on Armen's channel and you can see these power cells. With these cells it's GANS and nano-coated wires and non-coated cells and they go together.

In the previous workshop we went into the details about these power cells and what they are doing. So we can charge a battery with these cells, use GANS for energy production. It shows one of the applications of GANS. If you go to the next page, number 61, you can see the first dynamic reactor which has GANS inside and with this experiment it was shown that GANS goes into the center of the sphere and creates a disc shape.

Go to page 62, you can see GANS material inside the reactor. This is the picture we got yesterday when we opened the GANS reactor of Armen. It's in the same shape and creates a

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disc on the edges, like a donut shape. So that's what we are doing now, it was step by step. We first produced nano material, then we produced GANS and now we are using GANS inside of our reactors. And if you go to the next picture, 63, this is set up in a star formation, of GANS plasma reactors, Armen's plasma reactors which we are running now in our lab, and from this set up you observed in the previous 2 days, 48 hours, strong magnetic fields that were detected and with very small energy that we are using to run motors we were able to create strong magnetic fields and that also Mr Keshe explained before.

So step-by-step, it's not a difficult process, everybody can learn, it's just important not to be ignorant because the knowledge is here for everybody to learn and everybody can do this. If we go to the next picture, it's again a collection of copper oxide GANS, I am showing this again because on the next picture is another application, number 65… It shows the brain which we have here in our lecturing room and this brain can be also used as a control system of our reactors, as a storage and we can use it in different ways.

You can go to number 66, just a close picture of GANS in our brain. You can see the structure. It's a wavy structure, it's like in our brain. Number 67 is from different angle. 68 from a different angle, you can observe here changing of the colour, it goes to a creams colour, it's a similar colour to our brain. And on the 69 it's again we compare our brain with a brain of a human. The colours are similar.

So that’s how we can use GANS that we produced in the previous steps, and most of you can also use this at home, but let's do tests here first, you can do tests also at home and you can send here your results. You can teach us also what you can learn; maybe we missed something so it's important that we share information with each other. We should not limit ourselves; I would say nobody is wrong, let's be open to different explanations. But not in a way that people are not doing any experiments and they're saying you're not correct.

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Let's be open with people that are phoning us, let's share and let's not say you're wrong. That's what we are observing in the past few days, we achieve incredible results, but instead of people sharing their experiments, they're trying to discriminate, I don't know.

Let's go to picture 70, a picture of the Sun and the Sun is also a plasma, the same as our GANS are plasma, copper oxide is plasma, the Sun is also plasma but on a much bigger scale. It's much bigger principal fields inside of Sun when you compare it with copper oxide plasma, that's why we call it quantity and entity. When a smaller quantity, it's let's say CO2, it's a little bit bigger, it's copper oxide, when it's even bigger we have Sun, even bigger is galaxy, Universe, so it's all the same structure.

I want to show you also the other reactors we are doing here, we have also other reactors, which are with Gases. But it's the same principle, just a different way how to achieve plasma inside our reactors. In 71 you see another reactor, we use different Gases inside to create plasma and one the plasma is created inside we can manipulate this plasma and use it in different ways.

Let's go quickly through these pictures, number 72, you can see close picture of it and here is the magnetic field detector in the front, thats what we are using here to detect our fields, we have different types, this is for lower strength field and we have another one for higher strength fields that we are using now in our GANS star formation set up that Armen made.

Let's go quickly through this picture, number 73 shows the inside of the reactor number 74 is another reactor, what is interesting is that is has rings and these rings are connected to the central reactor so that we can measure plasma flow inside the reactor and to observe what is going on inside. Number 75 again just to show Sun and to compare Sun as a plasma to our plasma inside of our reactors.

Number 76, here is a star formation. We are always using star formation because its much easier to control our plasma and achieve some results that we are planning to do with star formation it is easier to achieve this than when we have only 1 reactor, it is always used in flying, in flying objects that are used to travel in space, so also future vehicles to travel into space will have this star formation inside this vehicle.

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Number 77 you can see also that a building block of amino acids is also like star formation, you have oxygen, nitrogen, carbon and there are still in a star formation and you can compare our reactors also with building blocks of amino acids.

In 78 another star formation, we have 3 star formations now in our lab and we are testing these configurations. Number 79 shows our lab, but now it's already changed, we are changing things, we are doing different experiments, but always the main structure is a star formation.

Number 80 you can see our solar system and different planets inside, and these are like plasma, it's similar like 1 atom has different electrons, different protons and these are different plasmas and you can compare our solar system with an atom. Also an atom has different orbitals and here you can see the same structure, is it atom or is it solar system? It is the same structure.

Number 81 shows the star formation again but in a different configuration with 6 reactors, some of them are in the back, but we can replicate an atom of carbon. We have a central reactor with plasma inside and 6 different reactors around it so we can replicate the behaviour of carbon with out plasma reactors.

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Number 82, again to compare our set up with an atom of carbon, similar structure. We can do tests and we can emulate, copy the atom of carbon. Number 83 another picture of the solar system, it's the same so always the same structure. Plasma of solar system is the same of plasma of the atom.

Just to show it again, number 84 shows another structure of plasma, plasma of helium atom. This is also interesting but I think we don't have time already, maybe we'll go to details next time.

Helium is similar to the plasma of the water and if we see it like the electrons of the helium are like 2 hydrogen atoms that are circling around the oxygen atom, when you look at the molecule of water as one plasma, it's actually like plasma of helium, but next time. Number 85, there are different pictures of our GANS production cells, of our planet Earth, inside our solar system, our star formation in our lab or our galaxy, it's the same thing, it's again plasma, it's the same process. So I just want to finish this with a few pictures, 86 we should not limit ourselves, we should try to expand out knowledge. 87, why are we here? We are here to share the knowledge of the Universe and Mr. Keshe is doing this with us.

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We at Knowledge Seekers really appreciate this and would like to thank him to share this knowledge free. So number 88, that's from us, Spaceship Institute. We try to share this knowledge with the help of Mr Keshe also with your help I hope to get some feedback. Where we are, where is the understanding, so that we can do the next teachings what should we go into detail about and where to put more attention, where are the weak points, whatever. So, if there are any questions? I hope that I was not too long.

Rick: Thank you Marko, that was great, a tour of the Universe there. Does anyone have any questions? I think there is a question or 2 on the live stream. We'll take a look at that now. There's a question about using their hands with the nano-coated copper wires and so on, is that a hazardous problem, should people really be wearing gloves, or can you get away with occasional touching of the black nano-coated copper oxide at least.

Marko: yes, you should wear gloves. You can see here sometimes we don't use gloves, just because on some occasions we don't have gloves. Wear gloves because this is nano material and it is GANS material and this material radiates magnetic fields. And when you touch this, some of this material will stay on your skin and somehow you can touch your mouth and food and digest this. And this material is nano material in the same state as your body, it's in GANS state, in nano state and you can have health problems because of this material. So you should always wear gloves.

Rick: OK. Thank you for that.

Marko: I will give the microphone to Mr Keshe to finish this.

An Introduction to the First Health Workshop, or Nano materials and Gans materials in bone

Mr Keshe: Thank you very much Marko. I think that was a summary of what we've done here and what we have learned in our past times. There are 2 points to make a reminder: if you can go to picture 22, the bone, if you can go that far, can you go back? It's a cross section of a bone.

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Rick: I don't have any numbers to go by, so I'm just trying to...

Mr Keshe: Armen says it's a historical bone because we don't have it, the dog has eaten the bone. Aahahahaha. It was with Armen in the lab but we don't know where it disappeared. The reason I asked for this picture, please look at it in detail. The reason this bone was brought into the lab is this is the reverse of what you see on your copper oxide nano-coated material.

You see this shape, the gap, the distance? And how loose and bigger the cell becomes in different positions? And this is how materials are. These holes in the bone structure are a filter, materials go through there as blood and whatever else. But the structure of nano material is similar. The GANS is there, that's how more or less you see a cross section of your copper wire. The copper wire you have is a spherical, you get homogeneous gaps from in out. Here because of the shape of the bone, there are different sizes, different structures of this nano layer, because the bone has certain capacities of a magrav which allows cells to enter or leave their structure of the bone.

We'll come to this picture, if you can keep it, tomorrow with the talk with the medical side, with Dr Eliya. Next week, we had a lot of requests from people how to make a perfect nano material and nano-coated material and GANS.

As we have now made our nano materials, next week Armen will show a full process of how to make nano-coated materials, that we all understand how to do it and how it's done, in a very simple way. So we cannot have anymore misunderstanding in how we make it now that we are putting the plates out in the environment to capture CO2.

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Something which is interesting maybe to share, is that we are about to launch a second kit in the coming days and we'll announce that when it's ready. That it adds to the next step in the production of energy and you can do it at home. There's a discussion, that I know where the foundation work in the lab is going building the dynamic reactors, we already speaking with our Italian group for the production of the dynamic unit as a kit, that you can buy as a kit. And this will be evaluated in the next few weeks, so as you are trying to build one reactor at a time, reactors will be available as a kit so that you can start producing your own systems and testing your own things as you want to, and then we'll say about the application of these things.

Is there any other question that we can ask and answer?

Rick: Well, I think you've pretty much covered the bases on many things today, we are up to over 3.5hours now. Are there any other announcements or anything else that need to be said? There's a health workshop at 2pm central European time on Friday. What else would you like to say Mr Keshe?

Mr Keshe: There's not much, because nowadays we are having about 8-10 hours of teaching a week and this is going to be expanded more and more, so we try to be directly more practical and we put things coming up on the live stream so that you can see.

Armen is getting his flying suit ready, getting ready to be able to go home for dinner and come back. But the fact is, we share the knowledge freely, on the basis of adding to man's knowledge. So many ways we get away from the mistakes of the past.

Rick: I'll show the animation, that our animation team has been putting together specially for the kids workshop. But it's sort of a multi-purpose animation that we'll work on and try to refine and expand upon... (starts playing the animation video) so it starts off, these are magnetic rays not light rays and it progresses where they entwine together here, causing this interaction. This leads to the plasma field around the, could be a neutron, could be a star, could be on many different scales. I was wondering what Marko thought about that too. Mr Keshe gave an opinion on the kids workshop, but we should probably end the workshop here.

Mr Keshe: It's very nice that we're learning a lot, and as we see it that's how we learn it and I am sure there will be huge surprises on the way. You will see the reactors are in star formation and we go live. Whatever you see during the week, make a note of it and you can ask another week.

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So, in reality the Foundation work including people from inside and outside, is more or less split totally as we have the facilities to be able to exercise our influences on a different number of reactors with the plasma technology using GANS.

We and you have the possibility of using GANS in a static form, we add on each other's knowledge and we go further with this. But now, as I said 2 weeks ago, Foundation work, as you don't have the facilities and being able to finance this kind of research which we do here, we open our cameras and bring it home to you 24 hours a day.

So, we still work as a whole family, totally but sometimes we cannot show everything because we have processes. When you see a picture like a box with a nano material in it, it's taken up to a week to produce it and next week a nano material comes and you have a GANS, as most of you have done it. So the same process will go with the dynamic systems now and we try to open the channels on the lab when we are testing, that our data is open.

As I said, I stand, and our foundation as a whole stands for valid criticism, we don't stand for people who use negativity to prove their whole existence. So, if you have a valid comment, that can help the Foundation work to go further, we listen to it. The ones who are completely there just to prove that their alive, we know you're alive otherwise you wouldn't be there to make comments. But make a constructive support, we can go further. Discourse… even not with individuals but with national governments and institutes around the world, which do and follow the experiment. Thank you very much for your time and hopefully tomorrow we'll have very, very nice news regarding the health section.

Revolutionary Medical Technology

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This is a major breakthrough in the world of technology and instead of waiting and putting it out after months and months, we have achieved this understanding over the past 10-14 years. And now, after this one trial that has come in, the results prove that we can go to the next step. And with this next step we revolutionise the world of medicine.

Tomorrow I think will be one of the first breakthroughs of this revolutionary technology, but as Dr Eliya. will tell you, we are reaching miniaturisation of the technology to reach to worldwide and as now we are teaching the health program internationally and there are doctors around the world who come. The whole ban to do with the Keshe Foundation health program does not exist because it's people who want to be part of it.

Let me explain something very interesting regarding the Keshe Foundation health research. Whenever you join or become or request to become part of the Keshe Foundation health research, you sign that you donate, not financially, but your body and the knowledge we learn from your process to humanity. So now is not money going to a specific organization or group. It's you financing, donating your body, donating your time, donating your finances to finance the research you've got on your own partially.

So nobody can stop humanity collectively to support each other and the beauty with this process is now that we bring in doctors who start monitoring and publishing the results literally weekly and monthly that other people can see. As I said, we're not afraid of failure. If the system trials fail or doesn't show what we expect, we go back and see what we have learned from it for the next step.

But, as technology has become more readily available to us knowledge-wise, now for the first time that we start releasing the kits, releasing the technology on the health side and others as the time comes. And tomorrow is a major step for us in that direction. Thank you very much for your time.

Rick: OK, OK. Thank you very much Mr Keshe.

Mr Keshe: See you tomorrow at 2 o'clock our time.

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Rick: Thank you. Thanks everybody for coming and that's the end of the 32nd knowledge seekers workshop. Lots of good things for people to ponder and to work on and experiment with. OK, bye for now!

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