usa v. keys: fbi transcript

8/13/2019 USA v. Keys: FBI Transcript

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G-21=n (]hv. 18-15->1)

=55N-RB-78758

B`dtlduntl`d f FG-21= f Wrndsblpt >G> & >G= , @d >1/17/=1>= , Qnih = `f 56

tnjc t` n jnwyhr f`r ngvlbh mhf`rh yù nsc quhstl`ds. \ù envh n rliet t` n

jnwyhr gurldi yùr quhstl`dldi. Lf yù bndt nff`rg n jnwyhr, `dh wljj mh

npp`ldthg t` yù mhf`rh ndy quhstl`dldi. Ndg, lf yù ghblgh t` ndswhr

quhstl`ds d`w, nt ndy p`ldt, yù envh teh rliet t` st`p. @c0

OC; \hn.

IN; Ndg, tels ls njj sòhteldi whg rhng lf yù whrh t` mh udghr nrrhst.

Ninld, yùrh d`t. SXL_

OC; Mhf`rh wh njj stnrt.

KB; Whjj yù went, whrh i`ldi t` ndswhr njj `f yùr quhstl`ds. L bnd thjj

yùrh cldg `f SXL_ udhnsh n jlttjh mlt.

OC; L eng ph`pjh wnch oh up ld teh olggjh `f teh dliet. SJnuiethr_

KB; Ndg, ndg tents bòpjhthjy udghrstndgnmjh. R`, whrh kust, whrh kust

i`ldi t` SXL_. Xe, my teh wny, Lo Kèd Bnutehd. \ù pr`mnmjy rhbìdlzh

SXL_

OC; Onttehw. L envh sp`chd wlte yù mhf`rh.

KB; \ù envh.

OC; \hs, L envh.

KB; R`, Ljj thjj yù went.

OC; Fùr st`rlhs ndg d`t.

KB; Yent wh wndt t` g` ehrh ls put yù nt hnsh. Ndswhr njj `f yùr

quhstl`ds.

OC; Ooo eoo.

KB; Ndg, ue, ndg L teldc wh wndt t` w`rc wlte yù `d tels, `c0 Bnush L

teldc yù envh n j`t `f teldis yù wndt t` thjj us, ndg whjj hxpjnld

hvhryteldi t` yù. Njrliet0

IN; SXL_

KB; Yent wh wndt t` g` ls

OC; Xooo.

KB; -- tnch yù t` n pjnbh wehrh yùrh d`t wlte yùr r`òonths ndg SXL_

Bnsh =;>2-br-1115=-CKO G`buohdt =2-8 Fljhg >=/>2/>2 Qnih = `f 56


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G-21=n (]hv. 18-15->1)

=55N-RB-78758

B`dtlduntl`d f FG-21= f Wrndsblpt >G> & >G= , @d >1/17/=1>= , Qnih 2 `f 56

f`r yù.

OC; \ù cd`w went, wh bnd g` hltehr. Lt g`hsdt ontthr t` oh.

KB; @c, whjj, went nrh yù o`rh bòf`rtnmjh wlte0

OC; L no

KB;Ljj thjj yù went, yù cd`w went. Jhts i` t` nd`tehr j`bntl`d. Kust t`

onch lt hnsy f`r . Wehy i`t nd`tehr r`ò, L teldc. Ndg tehd

OC; L, L teldc L wùjg rntehr mh ehrh.

KB; @c.

OC; Lf tents `c.

KB; @c, tehd tents went wh wndt t` g`. Njrliet. \ù wndt t` g` lt ld tels

r`ò0 @r0

OC; Yh bnd g` lt ld ehrh lf yù jlch ns j`di ns L g`dt envh ndyteldi t` mh

w`rrlhg nmùt. Ndg, L g`dt, L wndt t` onch surh yù iuys g`dt envh

ndyteldi yùrh w`rrlhg nmùt.

KB; Yhjj, ue

OC; Yhjj mh `c.

KB; L teldc wh bjhnrhg teh r`ò. G` yù envh ndyteldi gndihrùs ld teh r`ò

`r ndyteldi0

OC; D`.

KB; @c. G` yù envh n benlr `r sòhteldi wh bnd slt `d `r0

OC; L g`dt. Yh bnd irnm `dh frò teh gldldi r`ò.

KB; Wendc yù. Jhts iht sòh benlrs. Lo i`ldi t` tnch oy knbcht `ff lftents `c.

OC; Ndg, L np`jìlzh f`r teh ohss.

KB;@e, L udghrstndg. Ndg, yùvh `djy mhhd ehrh nmùt n o`dte ns L

udghrstndg0 Ls tent rliet0

IN; SXL_

KB; R`, ue.

Bnsh =;>2-br-1115=-CKO G`buohdt =2-8 Fljhg >=/>2/>2 Qnih 2 `f 56


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OC; \hn.

IN; Ld teh mnbc seh nbtunjjy, ns yù ohdtl`dhg ehrh mrlhfjy, tent, yù cd`w

Chys wns ldvlthg t` `mshrvh teh i`ldis `d ld teh LdthrdhtFhgs r`ò Ghbhomhr=1>1 t` Kndunry =1>> usldi teh dnoh NHRB]NBCHG. \ù, ue, pr`vlghg ehr n

duomhr `f jìs t` ehjp ehr wlte SXL_.

SXL Q`rtl`d 11;11;1< shb`dgs_

IN; -- Reh plbchg lt up frò yùr jìs.

OC; L teldc seh plbchg lt frò teh jìs.

KB;R`, yù kust invh ehr teh rnw jìs se`wldi lt wns NHRB]NBCHG ndg njj teh

bents wlte hvhryteldi0

OC; L invh ehr sòh `f teh rnw bent jìs, b`rrhbt.

KB; @c. @e, sòh `f teho. R`, yù glgdt ilvh ehr hvhryteldi0 Njrliet.

OC; L g`dt rhohomhr lf L invh ehr hvhryteldi tent L eng.

KB; Njrliet.

OC; L t``c qulth n fhw jìs weljh L wns, weljh L wns ld teh bent r`ò.

KB; Yhjj, whvh i`t n duomhr `f teh jìs ld tehrh, ue, ns whjj, tent yùrh

i`ldi t` mh nmjh t` rhng.

OC; L snw sòh `f te`sh SXL_.

KB; L teldc tents frò yùr Mut, whvh nbtunjjy i`t teh rnw buts. Yh i`t

teh we`jh teldi, hsshdtlnjjy ls teh m`ttò jldh. Xe, yùr b`dvhrsntl`d.

IN; Yehd yù whrh g`ldi tels, glg yù ush `tehr ushrdnohs `tehr tend

NHRB]NBCHG0

OC; L ony envh. W` mh e`dhst wlte yù, L g`dt rhohomhr.

IN; \ù g`dt rhbnjj `ff teh t`p `f yùr ehng0

OC; L, L Lt enpphdhg n yhnr ndg n enjf ni`.

KB; \hn.

IN; L udghrstndg.

KB; Yhjj, ehrhs went wh wndt t` g` ehrh t`gny, Ontt. Yh wndt yùr ehjp ld



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KB; Yhjj, L ohnd, yù bnd rhng tent L g`dt, L g`dt cd`w went teh

b`dshquhdbhs nrh. L ohnd, ehrhs teh m`ttò jldh. Yhjj b`vhr teh we`jh

teldi, mut teh m`ttò jldh ls whvh i`t tw` lssuhs. Xe, teh flrst lssuh ls

e`w yù ehjphg tehsh iuys ld Nd`dyoùs. Wehy nbtunjjy glg bnush sòh

gnonih. D`, yù glgdt nbtunjjy g` teh enbc, mut yù glg ilvh teho teh

pnssw`rgs t` F`x, t` teh BOR. Ndg, ndg tents nd lssuh wh i`t t` nggrhss.

Ndg, s` whrh i`ldi t` hxphbt yù mh bndglg nmùt tent mhbnush wh i`t te`sh

rhb`rgs, ndg wh bnd pr`vh tent. \ù udghrstndg0

IN; \ùjj mh nmjh t` chhp tels, my teh wny. R` tels SXL_.

KB; \hn, tels ls yùr b`py.

IN; Mut, yùjj envh tels wehd wh jhnvh.

KB; R`

OC; ]holdg oh ninld went yùr dnoh wns0

IN; Lts Inmrlhj.

KB; Lts Inmh. Inmrlhj.

KB; Lo Kèd.

KB; \ùrh d`t i`ldi t` f`riht tent.

OC; D`, yùr dnoh L cd`w we` yù nrh.

KB; L cd`w.

OC; \hn.

KB; R`

OC; Yent g` yù g` Inmrlhj0

IN; Xo, snoh teldi ns Kèd, mnslbnjjy.

OC; @c.

KB; Mut, ehrhs teh teldi, L ohnd wh, wh njrhngy cd`w ld teh sbehoh `f

teldis wehrh yù stndg ndg e`w yù bnd ehjp us, ndg tents njj whrh i`ldi

t` nsc yù. Kust, yù cd`w, e`w bnd yù ehjp us. Yhrh i`ldi t` nsc f`r,

yù cd`w, wh i`t n shnrbe wnrrndt nbtunjjy t` iht njj `f teh jìs `ff yùr



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=55N-RB-78758

B`dtlduntl`d f FG-21= f Wrndsblpt >G> & >G= , @d >1/17/=1>= , Qnih < `f 56

rhsp`dslmljlty ld teh shdsh tent lf yù g` try t` cldg `f sny, whjj, L

glgdt g` lt, `r L glgdt envh n slidlflbndt r`jh ld lt. Rtljj 6 `bj`bc0

Yent tloh yù i`t t` i` t` w`rc0

OC; Xe, L eng t` mh up nt 5.

KB; Njrliet, s` wh i`t sòh tloh.

OC; \hn.

KB; Mut, went Lo snyldi ls, yù cd`w, whrh i`ldi t` b`vhr hvhryteldi frò

teh tloh yù jhft F`x Dhws, `c0 Njj teh wny terùie. Ndg, nt teh hdg `f teh

gny, yù cd`w, wh kust wndt yù t` SXL_ ndg mh trutefuj nmùt hvhryteldi.

Ndg, ndg t` teh hxthdt tent yù g` fhhj sòh rho`rsh, e`dhstjy Ontt, tent

i`hs n j`di wny wlte ph`pjh we` j``c nt ph`pjh jlch yùrshjf we` nrhd`ronj, ghbhdt ph`pjh tent kust ongh n olstnch. Ndg, yù eng blrbuostndbhs

nt teh tloh tent oliet envh bnushg tent olstnch, ndg tents udghrstndgnmjh.

R`, L teldc yù nrh i`ldi t` mh rho`rshfuj. L teldc yùrh i`ldi t` thjj

teh trute ndg, ue, ndg, tents njj w`rtey. @c0

OC; \hn.

IN; SXL_ yù bnd ehjp us bntbe sòh `f teh `tehr iuys t``.

KB; Yelbe ls

OC; Weh b`dbhrd tent L envh ls o`rh `r jhss f`r oy bnrhhr. \ù cd`w, L cd`w

e`w tehsh teldis

KB; Yhrh i`ldi t` w`rc wlte yù t` teh hxthdt tent wh bnd. Yhrh d`t ehrh

t` enro yùr bnrhhr. @c0 @ur i`nj ls t` `mtnld teh trute.

OC; ]liet.

KB; @c0 R`, jlch L snlg t`gny. Yhrh i`ldi t` jhnvh ehrh t`gny, ndg wh nrh

ndg yùrh i`ldi t` jhnvh ehrh t`gny. \ùrh d`t i`ldi t` knlj t`gny. @c0

OC; Chy w`rg mhldi t`gny.

KB; Yhjj, yù cd`w, hvhd L bndt prhglbt teh futurh. Mut, ehrhs went L bnd

prhglbt. Xe, yù cd`w, cd`wldi yùr r`jh ld lt, udjhss tehrh ls sòhteldi L

g`dt cd`w, `c, mhbnush ns fnr ns wh bnd thjj nt tels p`ldt, ndg yù cd`w,

whrh i`ldi t` fldg lt ùt ns wh j``c nt yùr stuff ndg yùr bòputhrs hvhd

o`rh L iuhss lf tehrhs sòhteldi wh g`dt cd`w. Mut, wh cd`w went enpphdhg

nt F`x71 Dhws wlte teh honljs ndg hsshdtlnjjy teh BOR shrvhr, yùr nbbhss

`f pnssw`rgs, ndg yùr ldv`jvhohdt wlte Nd`dyoùs. @c.

Bnsh =;>2-br-1115=-CKO G`buohdt =2-8 Fljhg >=/>2/>2 Qnih < `f 56


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=55N-RB-78758

B`dtlduntl`d f FG-21= f Wrndsblpt >G> & >G= , @d >1/17/=1>= , Qnih>1 `f 56

OC; Yelbe wns oldlonj, nt, nt mhst.

KB; \ù whrh d`t n enbchr, phr sh, mut nt teh hdg `f teh gny, yù glg tnch

honljs frò F`x71 tent yù seùjgdt envh, `c. Ndg, sbrhw wlte teho ndgbnush teho b`dsthrdntl`d.

OC; Ehy, L glgdt rhnjjy tnch

KB; Yhjj, st`p f`r n shb`dg. Ndg, tehd, o`rh lop`rtndtjy, ndg teh rhnj

rhns`d whrh ehrh ls ilvldi teh pnssw`rgs t` te`sh iuys tent bnushg teh, t`

teh, ue, tent ujtlonthjy rhsujthg ld teh enbc nt teh . \ù glgdtJN Wlohs

g` teh enbc, mut yù invh teho teh pnssw`rgs. Ndg, yù bndt udwldg tent.

Ndg, wenthvhr teh oòhdt `r bnush, L, wh bnd, wh bnd udghrstndg went

enpphdhg.

OC; \hn

KB; Njrliet. R`, tents hsshdtlnjjy ls tehrh ndyteldi hjsh tent, mhy`dg

tent0

OC; D`. L glgdt envh nbbhss t` ndyteldi hjsh.

KB; @c. Yhjj, Inmh ls i`ldi L no i`ldi t` i` iht

OC; Oy ldv`jvhohdt wns, ldv`jvhohdt wlte teho, hdghg cldg `f rùie.

KB; \hn, L udghrstndg. Ndg, tents pr`mnmjy t` n jnrih hxthdt wey wh hvhd

hdghg up ehrh t`gny mhbnush lt wns n b`dthdtlùs rhjntl`dselp wlte, wlte

teho, ndg lts udghrstndgnmjh.

OC; Yhjj, tehy whrh upsht tent stuff wns ihttldi ùt tent tehy glgdt wndt

t` iht ùt. L ohnd, ns yùrh pr`mnmjy nwnrh.

KB; Rurh. L g`dt cd`w njj `f teh ghtnljs s`, whrh i`ldi, L ohnd went wh

wùjg jlch t` g`

OC; L, udf`rtudnthjy, g`dt rhohomhr njj `f teh ghtnljs.

KB; Yhjj rhfrhse yùr oho`ry `f went wh cd`w, ndg t` teh, ndg ue, ls lt `c

lf wh tnch sòh d`ths0

OC; \hn.

KB; @c. Inmh, Lo i`ldi t` iht n benlr f`r yù t` slt ld ndg onch sòh

d`ths lf tents `c.

IN; \hn, tendc yù.

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KB; Ljj mh rliet mnbc.

KB; @e, L i`t teh wr`di r`ò.

KB; Wels ls i`ldi t` i` prhtty hnsy. Eh, ue, ehs i`t nd Nppjh tents `d,

lts d`t hdbrypthg. Ehs b``phrntldi, mut eh snys tels teldis dhw. R`,

went L oliet g` ls kust, ue. L g`dt teldc whrh hvhd i`ldi t` dhhg lt.

Ehs i`t n enrg grlvh welbe ens njj els stuff `d lt.

XO>; @e.

KB; R`, Lo teldcldi wh prhvlhw tent `d slth. Lf lts i`t njj teh jìs wh

tnch tent enrg grlvh.

XO>; @c.

KB; R` L wùjg flrh up n jnpt`p. Lts n zlp fljh.

XO>; G` yù envh n Bnd yù ilvh oh, bnd yù mrldi ùt teh enrg grlvh0 @r

KB; \hn.

XO>; Fldg ùt went teh ldthrfnbh ls kust s` L cd`w.

KB; \hn.

XO>; SXL_

KB; Ljj iht teh SXL_. Ljj iht teh enrg grlvh ndg mrldi lt ùt.

XO>; Ndg, tehrhs nd`tehr Nppjh ld teh bj`sht.

KB; @e `c. SXL_ Lts, lts i`ldi t` mh fldh.

XO=; SXL_

KB; @e yhn, Ljj nsc elo lf eh wndts SXL_. R`, went g` wh i`t ld teh

frlgih0 B`ch, sòhteldi0

XO=; SXL_

KB; Njrliet.

XO=; SXL_

KB; Njrliet.

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=55N-RB-78758

B`dtlduntl`d f FG-21= f Wrndsblpt >G> & >G= , @d >1/17/=1>= , Qnih>= `f 56

XO=; SXL_

KB; R`rry nmùt tent. Glg yù wndt sòhteldi t` grldc, Ontt0 @r sòh wnthr0

L cd`w tehrhs n B`ch ld teh frlgih `r sòhteldi.

OC; D`, mut ld teh frlgih tehrhs n wnthr kui tents i`t n rhg bnp `d lt.

KB; Bnd L iht tent f`r yù0

OC; \hs, pjhnsh.

KB; Njrliet. Ynthr m`ttjh ld teh frlgih, rhg bnp.

SQnush 11;11;26 shb`dgs_

OC; SXL_ wnthr.

KB; SJnuiethr_

OC; SXL_

(FML D`th; Nmùt tels tloh teh shb`dg rhb`rgldi bòohdbhg Hvlghdbh Ltho

>G>)

KB; Lts njrliet.

OC; Xo, `tehrwlsh, rliet d`w L pr`mnmjy wùjg envh ehjphg. Xo. @dh `f teh

teldis tent L glg mhf`rh L k`ldhg ]huthrs wns L ldvlthg elo t` envh b`ffhh.

Wrlmudh Bòpndy SXL_ ]huthrs bjlhdt. Xo, L ghblghg tent lf L whrh t` iht

teh k`m nt ]huthrs L wùjg wndt tehrh t` mh sòh bj`surh ndg ns jlttjh

ndlo`slty ns p`sslmjh. R`, L ldvlthg elo ùt, ndg wh glgdt tnjc, yù cd`w,

nmùt ndyteldi `tehr tend teh ldgustry, went wns enpphdldi nt teh stntl`d,

went wns i`ldi `d wlte went L wns g`ldi. Nt teh tloh L w`rchg nt NMB. Ndg,

uo, L teldc lt wns vhry b`rglnj. Yh jhft `d i``g thros. L shdt elo n fhw

honljs ndg envhdt ehnrg frò elo o`st `f teh tloh. Xe, mut, sòh `f teh

tlohs eh wns vhry rhsp`dslvh. \ù cd`w, L t`jg elo, L shdt elo nd honlj

wehd L stnrthg nt ]huthrs snyldi tels ls oy onljldi nggrhss, Lo stljjihttldi onlj t` oy `jg nggrhss, yù dhhg t` envh tehsh f`r yùr rhb`rgs.

IN; @c.

OC; Xo, s` L wùjg sny tent wehd oy hopj`yohdt hdghg, lt hdghg cldg `f

iruff. Ndg, tehd, lt hvhdtunjjy, yù cd`w. Lt i`t mhtthr. Wloh, tloh onchs

hvhryteldi mhtthr. R`

IN; Rurh. @c. R`, tent enpphdhg nmùt wehd tehd0 \ù bnoh ùt ehrh sòhtloh

nrùdg Kndunry, rliet0

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OC; Kndunry >5.

IN; R`, yù snt g`wd wlte elo nmùt Kndunry `f tels yhnr.

KB; Ndg, we` wns tent0

OC; Mrndg`d.

KB; @c.

OC; L snt g`wd wlte elo, uo, olggjh `f Ghbhomhr `f teh prhvlùs yhnr wehd L

wns stljj jlvldi ld Bnjlf`rdln. Ndg, tent wns teh `djy tloh tent eh ndg L

s`rt `f eng n fnbh-t`-fnbh nfthr L eng jhft F`x. Ndg, jlch L snlg, lt wns n

vhry pjhnsndt ohhtldi. Yh whrh vhry b`rglnj. Xo, lf yù whrh sòh strndihr

j``cldi nt us nt teh b`ffhh se`p, yù wùjg dhvhr envh cd`wd tent yù cd`w

eh eng jht oh i`.

IN; R`, d`t t`` ondy bups `f e`t b`ffhh ter`wd nt `dh nd`tehr.

OC; D`, lt wns vhry dlbh. Mrndg`d ls

KB; Wloh, tloh g`hs ehnj wùdgs, g`hsdt lt0

OC; Yhjj, Mrndg`d ls n vhry dlbh iuy. Ndg, yù cd`w, L teldc eh teùiet, eh

teùiet tent L wns n vhry dlbh iuy, t``. R`

KB; Yhjj

OC; Ndg, L

KB; L teldc yù nrh, t``, yhn.

OC; Yh, wh m`te udghrst``g went enpphdhg, yù cd`w. Lt t``c oh n weljh

mhbnush L wns vhry upsht.

IN; Ooo eoo.

OC; Mut, wh m`te udghrstndg tent teh rhns`d wey, yù cd`w. Yh, wh m`te

udghrst``g teh rhns`d wey lt enpphdhg.

IN; Yent wns tent0

OC; Yhjj, L teldc wh kust eng glffhrhdt, glffhrhdt lghns ns t` e`w wh

wndthg t` nbelhvh tent hdg-i`nj, yù cd`w. Lghnjjy, tehy wndthg t` muljg n

dhws whmslth tent wns mnbchg `ff `f, yù cd`w, behnp b`dthdt, s` t` sny. W`

iht, Sbjhnrs ter`nt_. Hxbush oh. W` iht pnlg t` ush tent, tehy wùjg tehd

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KB; Ooo eoo.

OC; Ndg, L wndthg t` muljg sonrt b`dthdt, ndg tehy wndthg t` i` f`r hnsyb`dthdt lf tent onchs shdsh. Lt wùjg mh teh gl- , lt wùjg mh jlch snyldi

yù wndthg t` try t` iht trnfflb f`r Benrjlh ]`sh ldthrvlhws, ndg tehy

wndthg t` iht trnfflb f`r bnt vlgh`s. R` SXL_

KB; \hn.

OC; G`hs tent ndnjìy onch shdsh0

KB; Xe, phrfhbtjy.

OC; Lo tryldi t` hxpjnld lt t` ph`pjh tent oliet d`t

KB; Yhjj, whvh i`t n prhtty i``g shdsh mhbnush whvh, whvh rhng yùr, ue,

yù cd`w, Qr`gubhr Onttehw pnihs. R`, Lvh i`t n prhtty i``g shdsh `f

pr`fhssl`dnjjy wehrh yùrh bòldi frò. Ndg, ue, e`w shrlùs yù tnch yùr

k`m ndg, ndg ue

OC; Yhjj, tents wey L teldc SXL_.

KB; -- yùr mnbcirùdg ld lt.

OC; -- b`dbhrd ohSXL_.

KB; Eue0

OC; L snlg tents wey L teldis jlch tels cldg `f b`dbhrd oh.

KB; Yhjj, ndg, ndg wh nrh bhrtnldjy, wh bnd npprhblnth lt. R`, yù cd`w.

Mut, lt ls went lt ls. Yh bndt bendih went enpphdhg. R`, yùrh g`ldi teh

rliet teldi. R`, ue, wehd yù jhft, tels wùjg, tels wùjg envh mhhd =1>1,

pr`mnmjy D`vhomhr. Lt wns `d

OC; L jhft, L jhft olggjh `f @bt`mhr =>, L teldc `f =1>1

KB; @c. Wents rliet.

OC; =1>>.

KB; Ndg, ue

OC; =1>1.

IN; =1>1



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OC; \hn.

KB; \ù jhft, ndg s`, teh flrst teldi L d`tlbhg ls wh eng tels lssuh wlte

teh honlj `r tehrh wns nd nriuohdt wlte Mrndg`d nmùt teh Fnbhm``c ndgWwltthr nbbùdts. Ndg, tehd yù eng nd lssuh, ndg tehd teh honljs stnrthg.

Ndg, tehd Nd`dyoùs. D`w, L wndt t` onch surh L i`t tent shquhdbh rliet.

Yehd yù tnjchg, wehd yù flrst i`t ldv`jvhg wlte Nd`dyoùs, yù cd`w, went

wns, went wns i`ldi `d ld yùr oldg nt teh tloh0 Ndg, went enpphdhg hxnbtjy

ld tent fnjj phrl`g0 Ld teh turo`lj `f

OC; L wns m`rhg ndg L fhjt stubc. Ndg, L envh njwnys s`rt `f mhhd

ldthrhsthg ld tryldi t` iht t` jlch teh sbhdh `f n st`ry.

KB; Ooo eoo.

OC; @r, t` teh ehnrt `f teh st`ry.

KB; Ooo eoo.

OC; Ndg, tels wns n irùp tent L rhnjjy glgdt cd`w n we`jh j`t nmùt. L

cldg `f jhnrdhg nmùt lt wehd teh rhst `f bòo`d Nohrlbn ehnrg nmùt lt.

KB; Rurh.

OC; Wels nttnbc, ue, tels QnyQnj nttnbc `d Vlsn ndg Onsthrbnrg ndg QnyQnj

ndg. R`rry, tels YlclJhncs nttnbc `d Vlsn ndg Onsthrbnrg ndg QnyQnj. Xo,jht oh kust stnrt `ff my snyldi, L envh d` cd`wjhgih `f ndym`gy ldv`jvhg ld

YlclJhncs. Xe

KB; SJnuiethr_

OC; L ns n kùrdnjlst envh rhng tehlr onthrlnj, yù cd`w. Xo.

KB; Wents fldh.

OC; Lo d`t prlvy t` ndy onthrlnj tent tehyrh bòldi ùt wlte ld teh

futurh. Lo d`t prlvy t` ndy onthrlnj SXL_

KB; Yhrh d`t ehrh f`r tent, `mvlùsjy. Mut, L npprhblnth yù ohdtl`dldi

tent.

OC; Kust wndthg t` iht tent ùt. Xo, s` L p`pphg ldt` teh bent r`ò tent

wns n, teh ihdhrlb `phrntl`dnj bent r`ò f`r wenthvhr tent enpphdhg t` mh

nt teh tloh.

KB; Ndg, glg yù ush, went, glg, e`w glg, e`wg yù p`p ld0 L ohnd nrh yù

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OC; Lvh ushg L]B ld teh pnst.

KB; D`w, went glg 0

OC; Xo.

KB; Yent nppjlbntl`d glg yù ush f`r L]B0

OC; B`jj`quy.

KB; B`jj`quy0

OC; G`hs tent sùdg rliet0

KB; @c. Ndg, wehd yù flrst p`pphg ld, ue, glg yù kust p`p ld ns n, ns njurchr0

OC; Ldltlnjjy, yhn.

KB; Ndg, went wns yùr ushr LG nt tent tloh0

OC; L teldc tent wns teh NHRB]NBCHG `dh.

KB; @c.

OC; Lt ony envh mhhd sòhteldi hjsh, mut L teldc tents went L wns usldi.

KB; E`w glg yù bòh up wlte NHRB]NBCHG0 Yns tent pnrt `f n ghslid t` cldg

`f npphnj t` teh enbchr bòoudlty0

OC; Qnrt `f lt. \hn. Weh pnssw`rgs tent, tehrh wns, tehrh wns n gntn fljh

tent wns rhjhnshg my L teldc my YlclJhncs my n t`rrhdt slth tent eng teh

glpjòntlb bnmjhs.

KB; Ooo eoo.

OC; Ndg, lt wns j`bchg wlte NHR hdbryptl`d.

KB; @c.

OC; L glgdt cd`w went tent wns nt teh tloh.

KB; @c.

OC; L cd`w tehy wùjg.

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OC; Ndg, s`.

KB; R`, lt wns ld pnrt

OC; Cldg `f jlch, cldg `f jlch went ph`pjh g` wehd tehyrh ldthrrìntldi

nd`tehr phrs`d, yù tnjc nt tehlr jhvhj.

KB; Xe eue.

OC; Xo, wh g` tent ns kùrdnjlsts.

KB; Rurh.

OC; Yh tnjc nt teh jhvhj. Xo, ndg tent ohnds, yù cd`w, pnrt `f tent ls

kust npphnrndbh, yù cd`w. Lf yù i` t` n grhssy hvhdt, yù grhssnppr`prlnth. Lf yù i` t` nd hvhdt tents n jlttjh o`rh bnsunj, yù grhss

bnsunj. \ù, yù j``c teh pnrt f`r wenthvhr teh nppr`prlnth sbhdnrl` oliet

mh. L glgdt ohnd, L, yù cd`w, L g`dt teldc tent, hsphblnjjy teh ph`pjh

tent wùjg tnjc t` oh, L g`dt teldc tehy hvhr i`t teh shdsh tent L cdhw

o`st `f teh tloh went wns i`ldi `d.

KB; R`

OC; Yùjg yù oldg lf L turdhg tels fnd `ff0

KB; @f bùrsh, i` nehng.

SO`vhohdt, seuffjldi_

KB; @e `c. Yhjj, lf yù wndt t` put sòhteldi hjsh `d. Wents `c t``.

OC; \hn, L teldc tehrhs n swhnt knbcht SXL_.

KB; \hn.

SReuffjldi_

OC; Ndg, tehrhs d`teldi ld ehrh hltehr.

IN; @e.

OC; Lf yùg jlch t` try.

KB; \hn, wh bnd g` tent.

OC; Xo, s` wehd SXL_nt teh tloh SXL_ yù j``c teh pnrtSXL_.

KB; Ooo eoo.



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OC; Lf yùrh i`ldi t` n bùdty fnlr, yù grhss g`wd. Lf yùrh i`ldi t` n

grhssy hvhdt, yù grhss up. Ndg, `f bùrsh, tents lrrhjhvndt wlte went L

wns g`ldi mhbnush L wns g`ldi tels frò oy mhgr`ò ld Rnbrnohdt`. \ùrhmnshg ld Rnbrnohdt`, b`rrhbt0

KB; \hn.

OC; @c.

KB; R`, whrh yù jìildi nt tent p`ldt tryldi t` snvh n jì `f teh lghn `f

cldg `f g`ldi teh rhshnrbe `d tels0

OC; L teldc oy bòputhr wns pr`mnmjy snvldi sòhteldi, mut L wnsdt.

KB; @c. D`t ldthdtl`dnjjy, yùrh kust rhshnrbeldi nt tels p`ldt.

OC; L eng, uo, yù cd`w tehrh nrh `ptl`ds `d B`jj`quy wehrh lt bnd snvh n

jì.

KB; \hn.

OC; Ndg, L eng i`dh terùie ndg turdhg teho njj `ff.

KB; @c.

OC; Xo.

KB; Yey glg yù g` tent0

OC; Mhbnush L cdhw tent lf L glg envh sòhteldi ndg L eng thxt jìs tent

ghthbt, yù cd`w, lf L whrh t` mrldi tehsh t` sòhm`gy. L no kust n whm

pr`gubhr tent w`rchg nt F`x, yù cd`w.

KB; Ooo eoo.

OC; Lo d`t, yù cd`w, n ghputy s`blnj ohgln hglt`r f`r ]huthrs. Xo, went

cldg `f pujj wùjg L envh0 Ndg, L cdhw tent sòhm`gy j``cldi nt te`sh thxtg`buohdts wùjg i`, We`sh envh mhhd njthrhg. Xe, @r, te`sh bùjg envh

mhhd njthrhg.

KB; Ne, yhs.

OC; L seùjg sny. Xo.

KB; Ls tent, went, wey L no d`t surh Lo f`jj`wldi. Wents wey yù turdhg

lt `ff `r glgdt wndt t` g` teh jìildi `r0



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OC; L glgdt wndt t` g` teh jìildi mhbnush L glgdt cd`w went wns i`ldi t`

enpphd.

KB; @c.

OC; Ndg, L glgdt wndt ndyteldi ldbrloldntldi jhft `d oy bòputhr tent yù

cd`w bùjg mh tlhg t` oy dnoh `r ony d`t envh mhhd tlhg t` oy dnoh. L fhjt

jlch lt wns nt teh tloh lt wnsdt n bòpjhthjy rntl`dnj teùiet, mut L

teùiet tent onymh tent wùjg ilvh oh nd hxtrn jnyhr `f pr`thbtl`d

KB; @c.

OC; -- mhtwhhd went tehy whrh g`ldi ndg went L wns g`ldi nt teh tloh. Yent

tehy whrh g`ldi wns

KB; \hs.

OC; -- ntthoptldi t` g` sòh gnonih.

KB; \hs.

OC; Yent L wns g`ldi wns onldjy kust mhldi nd `mshrvhr.

KB; ]liet ndg tent wnsdt yùr ldthdtl`d nt tent, nt tent p`ldt, bhrtnldjy.

OC; Hvhdtunjjy, jnthr `d, wehd L glg stnrt tncldi jìs, lt, L glgdt g`

te`sh wlte thxt hltehr. Wehrh oliet mh `dh `r tw` thxt jìs tent L t``c

kust mhbnush teh gntn wns s` irntultùs tent tehrh wùjg envh mhhd d` wny

t` envh bnpturhg lt ld n thxt fljh.

KB; Rurh.

OC; R`, welbe ls wey, ndg L, L cd`w yù i-, Lvh shhd tehsh ehrh. \ù envh

sbrhhd irnms tent

KB; \ùr sbrhhd irnms. R`, yù whrh g`ldi sbrhhd irnms.

IN; J``c jlch tels

KB; \hnSXL_

OC; \ù, lts enrghr t` ondlpujnth

KB; \hn.

OC; -- nd lonih, ndg wehd nd lonih ls ondlpujnthg yù bnd usunjjy rud lt

terùie s`ftwnrh ndg ghthbt wehtehr `r d`t lt ens.

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KB; Ooo eoo.

OC; Ns wlte tent, tent wns `mvlùsjy ondlpujnthg mhbnush lt wns rhgnbthg.

KB; Rurh.

OC; Xo. Mut, wehd yùrh f`rwnrg wlte n kùrdnjlst jlch Qnroy ndg yù sny

sòhteldi ens mhhd rhgnbthg, yù cd`w. Wehyrh usunjjy n jlttjh o`rh

KB; \hs.

OC; Wehrh n jlttjh o`rh, ue

KB; Lts o`rh brhglmjh. Lt ens, lt ens o`rh whliet.

OC; ]liet, hxnbtjy.

KB; \hn.

OC; ]liet. R`, ldltlnjjy i`ldi ld tehrh ns, ns n jurchr, ndg L teldc lt wns

ld, L wndt t` sny tehlr, tehlr r`ò nt teh tloh wns jlch @phrntl`d Qnymnbc

`r sòhteldi jlch tent.

KB; @c.

IN; Ony L nsc, mhf`rh wh i`, e`w glg yù flrst fldg ùt jlch wehrh t` i`0

OC; Wwltthr.

OC; Ndg, tels wns tw` yhnrs ni` mhf`rh Wwltthr

KB; Mhbnoh fnoùs. \hn.

OC; -- ls went lt ls d`w. L ohnd lt ls, lt wns

KB; Lt eng stnrthg, mut yhn.

OC; Lt eng stnrthg t` inld n shdsh mhbnush, yù cd`w, @mnon ndg @prne engk`ldhg. SJnuiethr_

KB; SJnuiethr_

OC; Wehrh whrh s` ondy ph`pjh `d lt. Xo. Mut, lt wnsdt mhldi ushg ld s`rt

`f teh shdsh tent lts mhldi ushg d`w.

KB; D`t ns n bòoudlbntl`d ohgluo, d`.

OC; Yehrh yù eng jlch >9,111 Wwhhts mhtwhhd Mli Mlrg jnst dliet, yù cd`w,

Bnsh =;>2-br-1115=-CKO G`buohdt =2-8 Fljhg >=/>2/>2 Qnih =1 `f 56


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mhbnush `f teh ghmnth. Xo. Went glgdt enpphd tw` yhnrs ni`. Ldsthng yù

eng ph`pjh nbtunjjy envldi n glsbussl`d, ndg ld o`dlt`rldi teh glsbussl`d

tent wns i`ldi `d `d Wwltthr. L ohnd yù stljj envh ph`pjh tent nrh envldi

glsbussl`d. L g`dt wndt t` sùdg, uo Sruomjldi d`lsh_. Yents i`ldi `d0

KB; L g`dt cd`w. Ndg, ue, tehyrh, ue, whrh d`t ehrh, tehyrh d`t i`ldi

wrhbc lt, s` g`dt w`rry. Ltjj mh

IN; Lf ndyteldi, tehyrh o`vldi n benlr mnbc ld t`wnrgs teh tnmjh `r

sòhteldi nj`di te`sh jldhs.

KB; Lf yù wndt t` i` ùt ndg, ndg shh wents i`ldi `d, L g`dt envh n

pr`mjho wlte lt.

OC; D`.

KB; R`, ue, yù, yù, yù i`t lt frò Wwltthr, yù whdt t` @phrntl`d

Qnymnbc, yùrh, yùrh tehrh.

OC; Wehrh Wwltthr nbbùdt, tehrh wns n Wwltthr nbbùdt tent eng mhhd sht

up, ndg tehy whrh ohdtl`dldi teldis jlch teh J`w @rmlt L`d Bndd`d nd, welbe

L stljj g`dt rhnjjy udghrstndg went tent ls `r e`w tent `phrnths `rL kust

cd`w lts n teldi.

KB; Ndg, s` yù glgdt g` ndy typh `f ghdlnj `f shrvlbh nttnbcs0

OC; D`.

KB; @c.

OC; D`.

KB; R`, yùrh bjhnrjy, ue, kust nt tels p`ldt rhnjjy kust rhshnrbeldi lt

ndg tryldi t` udghrstndg wehrh tehyrh bòldi frò, tnjc t` ph`pjh. Ye` glg

yù ohht0 G` yù rhohomhr ndym`gy0

OC; L g`dt rhohomhr ndym`gy tent L oht ld teh bent r`ò.

KB; @c.

OC; L teldc L wns tryldi t` onch n jlttjh mlt `f n d`lsh ndg lt, d`teldi

kuophg ùt. Xo.

KB; Enrg t` g` ld tent irùp.

OC; Yhjj, lts enrg t` g` ld ihdhrnj mhbnush tehrh wns s` oube ldthrhst ld

lt tent yù eng, yù cd`w, tent, nt teh tloh, L g`dt teldc tehrh wns jlch

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n prhss r`ò sht up.

KB; \hn.

OC; @r, yù cd`w, jlch nt `dh p`ldt tehy glg brhnth n prhss r`ò wehrh

kùrdnjlsts bùjg i` ld tehrh ndg tnjc t` teho ndg tehy wùjg lt wns s`rt

`f jlch spld njjhy

KB; \hn.

OC; -- f`r teh, f`r Nd`dyoùs. Ndg, L rhohomhr, uo, yù cd`w, kust ter`wldi

teldis ùt tehrh. L, L g`dt rhohomhr went wns snlg, ndg kust d`t ihttldi

ndy cldg `f rhnbtl`d.

KB; Njrliet.

OC; Ndg, eng L snlg, yù cd`w, Lo Onttehw frò BDD `r Lo Onttehw frò

yù cd`w tels mli dhws `rindlzntl`d, tehy wùjg envh jntbehg `d L teldc n

jlttjh mlt o`rh. Mut

KB; Onymh.

OC; SXL_ Lo Onttehw teh udhopj`yhg kùrdnjlst, yù cd`w. Wehyrh o`rh

ldthrhsthg ld e`w yù bnd ehjp teho tend tehy nrh ld

KB; @f bùrsh.

OC; Xo, yù cd`w ndy cldg `f st`ry tent yù wùjg wndt t` g`.

KB; L teldc yù envh n i``g ldsliet ldt` we` yù whrh tnjcldi wlte tehrh.

OC; L ohnd, lt, lts enrg t` s`rt `f

KB; E`w oube tloh ùt `f teh gny whrh yù sphdgldi g`ldi tels0 Ls tels

prhtty oube teh mujc `f yùr gny ns yùrh g`ldi `d teh bòputhr, stljj

g`ldi yùr

OC; Yehd L wns

KB; -- chhpldi musy.

OC; Yehd L wns nt F`x, L t``c nmùt tw` o`dtes t` s`rt `f d`t g` ndyteldi,

yù cd`w. L, L rhnjjy glgdt cd`w went t` g`.

KB; Ooo eoo.

OC; L eng dhvhr mhhd udhopj`yhg mhf`rh. Lt wns sòhteldi tent L wns cldg `f

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mrnbldi f`r, ndg ph`pjh nrh jlch, L cdhw, L eng n fhhjldi lt wns i`ldi t`

enpphd. \ù cd`w tehrh whrh bendihs tent whrh enpphdldi nt teh bòpndy.

Wehrh whrh ph`pjh tent whrh ihttldi jht i`. N j`t `f teh ldd`vntlvh ph`pjh

tent tehy mrùiet `d ldltlnjjy whrh mhldi jht i`. Ndg, uo, rlietjy s`, f`r

rhns`ds tent, yù cd`w, tehy seùjg envh mhhd jht i` f`r, f`r shdgldi SXL_

honljs ndg f`r, yù cd`w, d`t ohhtldi bhrtnld ldltlntlvhs. Mut, L kust cdhw

tent tehrh wns n bjhndldi `f eùsh tent wns tncldi pjnbh, ndg L fhjt jlch

nt ndy p`ldt Lo i`ldi t` mhbòh n vlbtlo `f tels. Ndg, tw` `r terhh whhcs

jnthr lt enpphdhg.

KB; Rurh. R`, yùrh sphdgldi n j`t `f tloh Nt sòh p`ldt yù glg

nbtunjjy ohht sòh f`jcs teùie ndg glg iht sòh prlvnth ohssnih ndg bents

wlte f`jcs, ue.

OC; Ld teh bent r`ò0

KB; Yhjj, frò teh bent r`ò. @r, ld teh bent r`ò. \ù whrh nbtunjjy

bòoudlbntldi, ndg

OC; @r `d teh L]B shrvhr whjj sny

KB; \hn.

OC; SXL_. \hn, uo, L, L terhw sòhteldi ùt tehrh ld teh onld bent r`ò,

ndg L ninld, f`rilvh, L g`dt rhohomhr went lt wns.

KB; L udghrstndg.

OC; Xo, Lo surh yù envh jìs `f lt sòhwehrh.

KB; Yh g`, ndg L, L g`dt wnddn, ue, pròpt yùr oho`ry. Lo tryldi t` iht

yùr rhb`jjhbtl`d, s`.

OC; W` teh hxthdt `f yù cd`w tent L ushg t` w`rc nt F`x `r, yù cd`w, L

envh sòhteldi `r `tehr frò F`x, `r L trlhg fnr, t` pjny teh F`x, teh F`x

pnrt elie.

KB; \hn.

OC; Ndg, lt wns, lt wns pjnyldi t` lid`rndbh o`rh tend ndyteldi mhbnush yù

L g`dt wndt t` sny t`` oube mhbnush oy r`òonth w`rcs f`r F`x.

KB; ]liet.

OC; Mut, uo.

KB; Lts `c



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OC; \ù udghrstndg e`w teh pumjlb phrbhptl`d `f

KB; @f bùrsh.

OC; -- F`x Dhws ls

KB; @f bùrsh.

OC; Xo, ndg s` t` iht tehlr ntthdtl`d tent wny.

KB; \hn. Glg tent w`rc0

OC; Lt w`rchg wlte Rnmu.

KB; @c.

OC; Eh rhnbehg ùt t` oh, ndg eh snlg went g` yù envh0

KB; Njrliet, s`

OC; Ndg, tehd

KB; Glg yù rhnjlzh nt teh tloh we` yù whrh tnjcldi wlte0

OC; L glgdt rhnjlzh nt teh tloh we` L wns, L glgdt rhnjlzh we` L wns

tnjcldi wlte udtlj Onrbe 6te.

KB; @e `c. SJnuiethr_

OC; R`.

KB; Yhjj, L glgdt ohnd sphblflbnjjy. Glg yù rhbìdlzh els slidlflbndbh ld

teh Nd`dyoùs bòoudlty

OC; D`.

KB; -- ns n tnjhdthg enbchr.

OC; L glgdt rhbìdlzh ndym`gy g`ldi ndyteldi nt teh tloh.

KB; @c.

OC; Lt rhnjjy wnsdt udtlj, uo, tent dliet tent eh ldvlthg oh ldt` teh

LdthrdhtFhgs r`ò. Ndg, lt wns, lt bnoh frò tent s`rt `f >8-olduth

b`dvhrsntl`d tent L eng wehrh.

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OC; L

KB; -- e`w t` ush lt. G` yù rhohomhr tent0

OC; L rhbnjj `ffhrldi sòh iulgndbh.

KB; @c.

OC; Weh `tehr teldi ls tent nt, nt Wrlmudh nt tent p`ldt ndywnys teldis eng

mhhd bendildi s` oube ld thros `f ùr BOR pr`gubt, ùr, ùr `djldh pr`gubt.

Yh whrh rh-jnudbeldi ùr whmslth hvhry slx o`dtes wehd L wns tehrh. Yh whrh

i`ldi frò BOR t` BOR t` BOR.

KB; @c.

OC; Ndg, nt teh tloh

KB; Yhjj, L iuhss, teh `djy rhns`d Lo st`ppldi yù ls mhbnush L g`dt wndt

yù t` i` g`wd teh pnte `f L glgdt teldc tent tehy whrh i`ldi t` g`

ndyteldi wlte tent mhbnush L g`dt teldc tents truh.

OC; D`.

KB; Ndg, L, L g`dt

OC; Mut, went, went L teùiet tehy whrh i`ldi t` g` wlte lt ls L teùiet

tehy wùjg fldg sòh ush f`r lt.

KB; @c. \hn.

OC; Lt wnsdt, lt wnsdt

KB; L ohnd lts d`t jlch yù hxphbt teho t` tnch ùt teh hdtlrh dhtw`rc ndg

ghstr`y teh bòpndy.

OC; Frò went, frò went L bnd rhohomhr, tehrh wns n sht `f brhghdtlnjs

tent L invh teho.

KB; Ooo eoo.

OC; Went glgdt w`rc f`r oh. Xo. Wehrh whrh `tehr brhghdtlnjs tent L invh

teho tent glg w`rc. Xo, tent L cdhw w`rchg ndg hxphbthg teho t` ush. Nt teh

tloh, teùie, L wns

KB; Wels wns ld teh flrst ldstndbh tent whrh tnjcldi nmùt.

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KB; @c.

OC; \hn. Mhbnush L glgdt teldc tent tehy wùjg w`rc. Mut, udghrstndglditeh `r onymh teh jnbc `f udghrstndgldi t` tels ontthr e`w enbchrs w`rc ndg

e`w teh enbcldi bòoudlty w`rcs. L fliurhg lf ndym`gy bnd fliurh ùt e`w t`

ush tehsh.

KB; Wehyrh stljj i`ldi t` mh nmjh t` onch lt hfflblhdt. Ndg, tent wùjg

muljg yùr brhglmljlty wlte teh `rindlzntl`d, phrenps0 @r, ls lt, `r nrh wh

stljj t` sbrhw wlte F`x `r ls lt n jlttjh `f m`te0

OC; L, L Sslie_. L teldc t` mh bòpjhthjy e`dhst ilvhd teh oldgsht, L teldc

lt wns pr`mnmjy n jlttjh mlt `f m`te.

KB; L udghrstndg. L udghrstndg. Xe, `c, s` whrh ld LdthrdhtFhgs. Lts wlte

wlte Rnmu. \ù g`dt rhnjjy cd`w e`w lop`rtndt eh ls yht.

OC; Lo ldvlthg ldt` teh r`ò tent dliet, teh flrst dliet tent Lo `d teh

bent r`ò. Ndg, L glgdt cd`w went L wns j``cldi nt. Wehrh whrh n j`t `f

ldstndbhs wehrh L glgdt cd`w went L wns j``cldi nt. Mut, oy inoh wns t`

fldg ùt went wns i`ldi `d. Xo, oy ldthdtl`d qulbcjy selfthg frò jhts

ilvh tehsh enbchrs we` g`dt iht bnuiet ndg bnd g` sòh gnonih sòhteldi.

KB; Ooo eoo.

OC; Lt qulbcjy selfthg frò tent t` L teldc L strubc up`d sòhteldi ehrh

tent ph`pjh g`dt cd`w nmùt tent onymh ph`pjh seùjg cd`w nmùt. Xo, ndg,

L bùjgdt jht teho shh tent `r cd`w tent. Xo.

KB; R`, wns tels, ls tels `d teh dliet wehrh tehy tnjchg nmùt teh Inwchr

enbc ndg tels typh `f teldi. @r, ls tels, ls tels n jnthrSXL_.

OC; D`, L teldc, L teldc lf L rhohomhr b`rrhbtjy teh Inwchr glsbussl`ds

bnoh up n fhw gnys jnthr.

KB; \hn, `c.

OC; Xo, L teldc went wns Onrbe >>te tent tehy, d`t Onrbe >>te. Lt wns, uo

KB; Jlch Ghbhomhr.

OC; Lt wns jlch Ghbhomhr >>te `r Ghbhomhr

KB; Ghbhomhr >1te `r >>te.

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KB; Yhjj, yù cd`w went, teh fnbt tent yùrh, yùrh wljjldi t` ehjp us

fldg lt `d tehrh tent i`hs n j`di wny. L ohnd, tent g`hs i` n j`di wny o`rhtend yù

OC; Kèd, L rhohomhr tnjcldi t` yù ld Nprlj `f =1>>. Ndg, yù bnjjhg oh ns

L wns o`vldi.

KB; \hn.

OC; L g`dt cd`w lf yù cdhw nt teh tloh tent L wns o`vldi.

KB; \hn.

OC; Xo, yù bnjjhg oh ns L wns o`vldi mnbc ld wlte oy irndgo`tehr. Ndg, L

rhohomhr thjjldi yù nt teh tloh tent, yù cd`w, ns fnr ns lt bnoh t` went,

yù cd`w, nt teh tloh, L wns w`rcldi `d n st`ry wlte `d wentWeh Iunrglnd

eng enpphdhg.

KB; Ooo eoo.

OC; SXL_. Xo, mut L rhohomhr thjjldi yù tent, yù cd`w, wenthvhr yù

wndthg, went- wenthvhr L bùjg ilvh yù, tent L wùjg. Ndg, tent, yù cd`w,

tent `ffhr dhvhr rhnjjy wns rhsbldghg. Lt wns, lt kust i`t t` n p`ldt wehrh

L stnrthg w`rcldi ld Rnd Frndblsb`, ndg tehrh wns d` tloh tent L eng t`ghglbnth t` tent.

KB; L udghrstndg.

OC; Qjhnsh g`dt tnch phrs`dnjjy teh fnbt tent yùr bnjjs whdt udndswhrhg

ndg yùr honljs whdt udndswhrhg. Weh `tehr teldi wns L wns tryldi t` fliurh

ùt e`w t` endgjh tels. Ndg, L dhvhr rhnjjy i`t t` n p`ldt wehrh L bùjg,

yù cd`w. L, gl- , ns n dhw hopj`yhh nt Glsdhy, lts cldg `f whlrg t` i` up

t` teho ndg sny, L teldc dhhg sòh jhinj bùdshjldi `d e`w t` endgjh tels

st`ry, yù cd`w, tent Lo d`t w`rcldi wlte `d, yù cd`w, f`r yùr

`rindlzntl`d `d. Went lts sòhteldi tent bnoh ùt `f sòhteldi hjsh.

KB; L udghrstndg.

OC; Xo.

KB; L ohnd, yù cd`w, Lo jlch yù. L ohnd yùrh pr`fhssl`dnj. L no n

pr`fhssl`dnj, yù cd`w. Lo kust, ue

OC; Weh glffhrhdbh ls L teldc yù cd`w o`rh nmùt went yùrh g`ldi tend L

glg nt teh tloh nmùt went L wns g`ldi.

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wns hvhr ld n p`sltl`d jlch tent wlte Glsdhy, ndg s` L fhjt cldg `f stubc

mhtwhhd tels st`ry tent, yù cd`w, lt wns dhvhr oy ldthdtl`d d`t t`

b``phrnth wlte ph`pjh `d.

KB; Yhjj, rliet d`w yùrh g`ldi teh rliet teldi, ndg s`.

OC; ]liet d`w Lo g`ldi teh rliet teldi

KB; Lts

OC; -- f`r yù iuys. SJnuiethr_

KB; Yhjj, lt shhos tent wny

OC; SXL_ Lts dhbhssnrljy i`ldi t` mh teh rliet teldi f`r

KB; Ehrhs teh lssuh kust t` put yùr oldg nt hnsh. Ndg, yù cd`w, L rhnjjy

bndt put yùr oldg nt hnsh t`tnjjy. Mut, ue, hvhrym`gy npprhblnths

e`dhsty. Xo, ndg nt sòh p`ldt ld tloh, whrh i`ldi t` envh t` se`w tels t`

n pr`shbut`r, ndg lts mhhd oy hxphrlhdbh tent pr`shbut`rs nrh ph`pjh, t``.

Ndg, ph`pjh npprhblnth e`dhsty. Ndg, yù cd`w, sòh ph`pjh onchs n olstnch,

yù cd`w, L ohnd tents, tents euond dnturh. Ndg, yù kust snlg tent nt,

yù cd`w, ]huthrs yù onch olstnchs. Qh`pjh onch olstnchs. Lts, lts, lts

sòhteldi tent yù bnd w`rc terùie. R`, ndg ld teh sbehoh `f teldis

OC; L wùjg sny, mhf`rh wh, mhf`rh wh b`dtlduh wlte teh, uo, O`dshiur bnsh.

KB; Ooo eoo.

OC; F`x eng tent st`ry mhf`rh ndym`gy hjsh glg, ndg L g`dt cd`w went, wey

tent wns. Mut, ilvhd tent oy r`òonth w`rcs nt F`x Dhws.

KB; Xe eue.

OC; Ndg, tehrh nrh FML nihdts ùt `d teh bùbe ùtslgh.

KB; Xe eue.

OC; Lo vhry udbòf`rtnmjh wlte tent olx.

KB; @c. Lt ens d`teldi t` g` wlte tent, yùr, ue, r`òonth.

OC; D`, L udghrstndg.

KB3 @r, teh F`x Dhws. \hn. Lo

OC; Ns nd hglt`rlnj hopj`yhh, teùie, yù cd`w SXL_.

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KB; \hn, whjj, ehs d`t i`ldi t` shh teh wnrrndt. Eh g`hsdt envh n b`py `f

teh wnrrndt.

IN; SXL_

OC; Yh bndt prhglbt wents i`ldi t` enpphd.

KB; L bndt prhglbt ndyteldi.

OC; SJnuiethr_ SXL_

KB; R`, yù cd`w, ehrhs teh

OC; L kust wndthg t` onch tent bjhnr.

KB; \hn, L udghrstndg. \ù cd`w went, whrh, ùr k`m ls d`t t` onch dhws.

@c0

OC; Lt g`hsdt ohnd lt g`hsdt enpphd teùie.

KB; L, L nirhh, mut whrh, whrh d`t i`ldi t` niirnvnth teh blrbuostndbh

wlte, yù cd`w, oncldi dhws R`, wenthvhr enpphds, enpphds. Xo, ndg L bndt

b`dtr`j teh futurh. Lo s`rry. L kust g`dt cd`w wents i`ldi t` enpphd.

OC; D`, L udghrstndg. L udghrstndg, bòpjhthjy. R`, Rnmu ndg L nrh

benttldi. Xo, L ilvh elo n sht `f brhghdtlnjs tent, frndcjy, L glgdt teldc

whrh i`ldi t` w`rc, mut L glgdt cd`w. Xo, phr oy rhb`jjhbtl`d, eh ldvlths

oh t` teh r`ò. Wehrhs nmùt, L teldc L glg n ehng bùdt nt `dh p`ldt, `dh

`f teh enbchrs hxhbuthg sòh bòondg jldh tent se`whg yù njj `f teh ph`pjh

tent eng nbbhss t` tent r`ò.

KB; Ooo eoo.

OC; Ndg, tehrh whrh mhtwhhd 22 ndg 26.

KB; Ooo eoo.

OC; Wehrh ls nd hxnbt bùdt `d `dh `f te`sh jìs tent se`ws hvhry ushrdnoh

`f hvhry phrs`d tent ens nbbhss t` tent r`ò. Ndg, ns fnr ns L bnd rhohomhr

te`sh jìs stljj hxlst.

KB; \hn, tehy g`. Yehd yù snw tent, glg yùr ehnrt kuop n jlttjh mlt0

OC; L glgdt shh lt rliet nwny.

KB; @e `c.

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OC; L ohnd lts d`t sòhteldi tent tehy se`whg oh `d teh flrst gny.

KB; @c.

OC; L bnd thjj yù teh flrst bùpjh `f gnys tent L wns ld tent r`ò L

glgdt sjhhp whjj tent dliet.

KB; Mhbnush0

OC; L eng dhvhr mhhd sumkhbthg t` nd hdvlr`dohdt ns n kùrdnjlst `r kust

hvhd ns n euond mhldi. L, L kust dhvhr shhd went L snw ld tent r`ò mhf`rh.

Lt t``c oh nmnbc. L wnsdt hxphbtldi lt.

KB; Yent wns lt, went wns lt0 Wry t` benrnbthrlzh lt ns mhst yù bnd tent

bnushg teh glstrhss f`r yù.

OC; N irùp `f ldglvlgunjs we` bùjg g` slidlflbndt gnonih we` fhjt frhh

glsbussldi ld teh prhshdbh `f ph`pjh tehy glgdt cd`w, g`ldi slidlflbndt

gnonih ndg d`t ihttldi bnuiet.

KB; R`, tehsh whrh ph`pjh tent whrh onjlblùs, ndg t` n bhrtnld hxthdt

OC; L teldc tehy whrh onjlblùs wlteùt n bnush.

KB; Ndg, ndg gndihrùs. SJnuiethr_ W` teh hxthdt tent tehy whrh cldg `f

j``sh bndd`ds0

OC; Yent b`dbhrdhg oh wns, yù cd`w, L, L teldc hnrjy `d L snw, yù cd`w,

ndg L g`dt rhohomhr lf lt wns tent dliet `r lf lt wns, yù cd`w, `vhr teh

bùrsh `f n bùpjh `f gnys, mut lt mhbnoh vhry bjhnr t` oh, ndg tels ls

sòhteldi L t`jg, yù cd`w, tent L t`jg Qnroy, ndg Lvh t`jg n bùpjh `f

`tehr ph`pjh. Lt mhbnoh vhry bjhnr t` oh tent tehsh whrh teh ph`pjh we`

whrh g`ldi teh o`st gnonih. Weh cldg `f teldis yù wùjg ehnr nmùt `d teh

dhws, yù cd`w, welbe udf`rtudnthjy, L wns d`t b`dtrlmutldi t` teh dhws

pr`gubt nt teh tloh. Xo, L ohnd L cldg `f wns, ndg whjj iht t` tent ld n

shb`dg. Mut, f`r teh o`st pnrt, L wnsdt. Xo. Lt, lt wns, lt Sslies_. N fhw

teldis strhsshg oh ùt. Went wns, uo. L ohnd lts ,lts stljj hvhd kustteldcldi nmùt lt, jlch teh irnvlty `f teh scljj tent wns ld tent r`ò ndg

mjntndt glsrhinrg f`r ndy cldg `f b`dshquhdbh.

KB; Ooo eoo.

OC; Yns kust, L eng dhvhr shhd ndyteldi mhf`rh jlch, jlch tent.

KB; Rurh.

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teldi.

KB; L udghrstndg.

OC; Ndg, pnrt `f lt wns, yù cd`w, went bùjg tehsh ph`pjh fldg ùt nmùt

oh0 \ù cd`w. Lo tncldi n thrrlflb rlsc `d tw` jhvhjs. @dh, mhldi tehrh,

wlte teho, tncldi n rlsc `f, `f teho g`ldi sòhteldi. Ndg, tw`, mhldi tehrh

wlte teho, ndg, yù cd`w, envldi lt bòh nbr`ss t` teh ph`pjh we` hdf`rbh

teh jnw.

KB; Rurh.

OC; D`w, L g`dt wndt tent t` mh ldthrprhthg ns, yù cd`w, L cdhw went eh

wns g`ldi wns mrhncldi teh jnw. L rhnjjy glgdt nt teh tloh, yù cd`w. Oy

rntl`dnjh

KB; Mut, nt sòh p`ldt, yù glg. Mut, whjj iht t` tent jnthr, L supp`sh.

OC; L teldc, yù cd`w, L Sslies_. L glgdt g` oy rhshnrbe. L ohsshg up

tehrh. L glgdt j``c ldt` lt ns oube ns L seùjg envh.

KB; Ooo eoo. R`, lt wns jlch teh `jg m`ljldi frì sydgròh wehrh yù cldg

`f kust

OC; L g`dt cd`w went tent ohnds, mut L stnrthg ldvhstlintldi n st`ry

mhf`rh L glg.

KB; \ù glgdt cd`w went yù whrh ihttldi SXL_.

OC; SXL_

KB; Ndg, lt cldg `f muljt, ndg muljt, ndg muljt, ndg tehd mhf`rh yù cdhw

lt, yù whrh.

OC; Ndg, L t``c sòh nbtl`d mhf`rh L glg n pr`phr mnbcirùdg `d lt.

KB; @c.

OC; Oy ohdtnjlty wns L envh teh chys t` n eùsh tent whrh dhvhr tnchd nwny,

yù cd`w. Ndg, tent wns `dh teldi tent frustrnthg oh nmùt Wrlmudh ls tent

tehrh whrh s` ondy teldis tent seùjg envh enpphdhg wehd oy hopj`yohdt

hdghg tent glgdt enpphd.

KB; \hn.

OC; \ù cd`w, tehy glgdt nsc f`r oy shburlty chy mnbc. Ndg f`r oy eùsh

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cd`w, tehy seut g`wd oy nbbhss t` oy honlj, oy w`rc honlj, welbe wns `dh `f

teh rhns`ds L wns upsht tent gny. Xo.

KB; Mut, tehy glgdt tnch teh pr`phr ohnsurhs f`r shburlty.

OC; D`.

KB; Wehy whrh vhry

OC; Ndg, lt wns `dh `f teh teldis wehd L wns w`rcldi tehrh L eng njwnys

t`jg teho tehy dhhghg t` g`.

KB; \hn.

OC; \ù bndt jht nd hopj`yhh i` ndg envh n f`rwnrg-fnbldi b`dthdtondnihohdt systho tent ndym`gy bnd nbbhss frò teh Ldthrdht ndg d`t tnch

te`sh brhghdtlnjs nwny.

KB; Bjhnrjy.

OC; L wns i`ldi ld ondunjjy ns n whm pr`gubhr, ndg d`dh `f oy k`m, oy k`m

ls d`t ldf`rontl`d thbed`jìy `r ndyteldi

KB; Ooo eoo.

OC; --wlte bòputhrs ndg rho`vldi nbbhss t` tehsh pr`fljhs nfthr, nft- j`di

nfthr ph`pjh envh jhft , tent ndym`gy bùjg iht nbbhss t`, ndg teh bòpndy

dhvhr shhohg b`dbhrdhg nmùt lt.

KB; \hn.

OC; Xo, ndg tent wns frustrntldi w`rcldi tehrh.

KB; Rurh.

OC; Xo, mhbnush oy b`dbhrd wns njwnys sòhteldi jlch, yù cd`w, n enbcldi

nttnbc `r, `r ihttldi nbbhss t` ldf`rontl`d, yù cd`w, wùjg bòpròlsh teh

ldthirlty `f teh mrndg, yù cd`w. Lt, lt, lt wùjg j``c vhry mng t` ùr

vlhwhrs. Lt wùjg j``c vhry mng t` ùr, ùr `tehr hopj`yhhs tent wh j``chg

jlch wh whrh ldbòphthdt. Ndg, lt wnsdt mhbnush L wns ldbòphthdt. Lt

wnsdt mhbnush oy ondnihr wns ldbòphthdt. Lt wns kust mhbnush teh pr`bhss,

tehrh rhnjjy wnsdt `dh, L teldc, yù cd`w, `dh `f n pr`bhss.

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KB; SXL_ ontthrs.

OC; Weh rhns`d wey L fhjt bòf`rtnmjh wlte teh brhghdtlnjs ls mhbnush tehy

dhvhr ghnbtlvnthg lt.

KB; L udghrstndg.

OC; Ndg, tehy cdhw tent L eng lt.

KB; \hn.

OC; Wels ls d`t sòhteldi tent tehy glgdt cd`w L glgdt envh. Wehy cdhw L

eng lt, ndg tehy glg d`teldi nmùt lt.

KB; Rurh.

KB; Bnrhjhss, jnx `d tehlr pnrt, mut njo`st, glg yù bùdt lt ns tehd lts

njo`st ns lf lts yùr pr`phrty sldbh tehy jht yù envh lt. @r, d`t qulth

surh e`w yù rhnjjy fhjt nmùt lt.

OC; Lts d`t

KB; Lts enrg t` put yùrshjf mnbc ld teh oldgsht `f tent tloh.

OC; Lt wnsdt oy pr`phrty. Lt wns, tehy whrh chys tent L eng nbbhss t`.

KB; ]liet.

OC; Wents e`w L j``chg nt lt. L stljj eng nbbhss t`Lt wùjg mh ns lf n

shrvhr wns n muljgldi.

KB; Ooo eoo.

OC; Lts n peyslbnj `mkhbt.

KB; Rurh.

OC; \ù cd`w, ndg L eng n chy t` n peyslbnj muljgldi. Jhts sny L wns tehdliet ondnihr nt n rhtnlj st`rh.

KB; Ooo eoo.

OC; Ndg, tehy invh oh teh chys t` teh muljgldi t` j`bc up nt dliet.

KB; @c.

OC; Yehd yù jhnvh, yùrh supp`shg t` tnch te`sh chys mnbc. \ù g`dt wndt

tent hopj`yhh t` stljj envh nbbhss t` teh chys.



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KB; Went shhos jìlbnj.

OC; Lt onchs shdsh t` us.

KB; \hn.

OC; Yh iht lt. Yh teldc tent wny. Lt g`hsdt onch shdsh t` teho.

KB; Wehy glgdt g` lt.

OC; Wehy g`dt teldc tent wny. Ndg, f`r tw` ndg n enjf yhnrs, L trlhg t`

iht teho t` teldc tent wny, ndg sny, j``c, sòhteldi bùjg enpphd, yù

cd`w, ndg yù wùjg rhnjjy envh d` rhbùrsh f`r lt. \ù cd`w, yù bùjg

sny, yù cd`w, teh shrvhrs nrh ùr pr`phrty, d`dh `f teh brhghdtlnjs whrh

olsnppr`prlnthg ns L snw ld teh bòpjnldt tent wns fljhg mnbc ld Onrbe.

KB; Ooo eoo.

OC; Yhjj, nbtunjjy, lt wns fljhg ld Nuiust.

KB; \hn.

OC; SXL_nvnljnmjh ld Onrbe. Lvh rhng njj `f tent. Lvh eng nbbhss t` QNBH]

SJnuiethr_. Xo, yù cd`w, yù bùjg sny njj `f tent, mut nt teh hdg `f teh

gny, yù envh t` ndswhr f`r teh fnbt tent yù glgdt tnch te`sh chys nwny.

Yns lt olsnppr`prlnthg0 Lt wns olsnppr`prlnthg t` teh hxthdt tent L invh lt

t` teho.

KB; ]liet.

OC; \ù cd`w. Mut, wns lt rhnjjy0 Weh bòpndy invh oh nbbhss t` n pr`gubt

ndg glgdt tnch lt nwny.

KB; L udghrstndg.

OC; \ù cd`w. Ndg, lt wnsdt hvhd teh fnbt tent tehy glgdt tnch sòh `f lt

nwny. Wehy glgdt tnch ndyteldi nwny.

KB; Njrliet. Bjhnr, whjj, ndg lts mhhd, lts mhhd `vhr n o`dte teùie, nt

jhnst. Mhbnush @bt`mhr, D`vhomhr, ehrh yù nrh i`ldi

OC; Lt wns nt jhnst n o`dte ndg n enjf t` tw` o`dtes. Ndg

KB; L bnd ehnr sòh d`lsh ùt Lo i`ldi t` sthp ùtslgh mhbnush lts

glstrnbtldi, ndg ue, ue, tnjc t` teh SXL_. Ljj mh rliet mnbc. SXL_.



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KB; SXL_. Ehs tnjcldi frhhjy, ndg ue. Lo i`ldi t` bòh ùt wlte teh enrg

grlvh.

XO7; @c.

KB; Ns s``d ns L bnd iht lt. Mut, ue, wh g`dt dhhg t` g` ndy shnrbeldi

XO7; Yh envhdt shnrbehg ndyteldi, s`.

KB; @c.

XO7; Wehrh nrh `tehr bòputhrs, jnpt`ps, lQngs, uo.

KB; SXL_

XO7; Weh r`òonths sny tehy g`dt, eh g`hsdt envh nbbhss t` teho.

KB; Jhnvh teho.

XO7; Njrliet.

KB; \hn, jhnvh te`sh iuys i`. Xe, s` tels iuy ens mhhd fujjy b``phrntlvh.

R`, Lo i`ldi t` iht sòh plbturhs. Wehd ehs i`t tels jnpt`p welbe L teldc

wh bnd tnch els `jg jnpt`p. Yhvh i`t n dhw jnpt`p welbe wh ony tnch. Ndg,

tehd wh i`t tels enrg grlvh. Yhrh ghfldlthjy i`ldi t` tnch. @c0 Ndg, ue,

SXL_.

XO8; SXL_ mrldi tent stuff ùt

KB; \hn, Lo tryldi t`, mut ue, L g`dt wndt t` mrhnc teh fj`w.

XO8; Onymh whjj but sòh ph`pjh j``sh.

KB; Wents t`tnjjy nbbhptnmjh. L wùjg sny, yhn.

XO8; SXL_

KB; SXL_ bòpjhthjy b``phrntlvh ld tehrh.

XO8; SXL_

KB; \hn, Lo kust, ue, L bnd ehnr teh d`lsh ùt ehrh, ndg tehrhs n j`t `f

iuys ùt tehrh. Ndg, eh ens n r`òonth.

XO8; SXL_

KB; Ndg, L wns teldcldi tent, ue.



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OC; SXL_ g` ndyteldi nmùt ùr dhliem`rs `r ndyteldi jlch tent0

KB; D`, d`.

OC; Wehyrh whjbòh, tehyrh njj whjbòh t` bòh ld.

KB; \hn.

IN; SXL_

KB; \hn, L kust glgdt, ue, yù cd`w, wndt t` bnush ndy pr`mjhos wlte yùr

r`òonths. Ndg, tehd lf tehy wndthg SXL_.

OC; SXL_

KB; Njrliet. SXL_ Lo iuhssldi

OC; SXL_

KB; R`rry nmùt tent.

IN; R`, yù whrh snyldi tehd tent yù invh `dh sht `f brhghdtlnjs

OC; L invh `dh sht `f brhghdtlnjs t` Rnmu.

KB; Ooo eoo.

OC; Xo, L glgdt cd`w went eh wns i`ldi t` ush teho f`r, mut nt teh tloh L

rhnjjy wnsdt b`dbhrdhg nmùt lt. L fliurhg, L glgdt hvhd cd`w lf tehyg

w`rc, t` mh frndc. Xo, L glg envh nbbhss t` n sht `f brhghdtlnjs tent L glg

cd`w w`rchg. L g`dt rhbnjj ilvldi tent t` teho.

KB; Ooo eoo.

OC; L ony envh. L g`dt rhnjjy rhohomhr. Xo, mut

KB; Yhjj, whjj rhfrhse yùr oho`ry `d tent L supp`sh bnush whvh i`t te`sh

jìs, ndg wh bnd se`w yù ndg yù bnd.

OC; Rurh. Xo.

IN; Ndg, nt sòh p`ldt nbtunjjy, yù, `dbh yù invh teho brhghdtlnjs yù

snw tent tehy whrh usldi teho hffhbtlvhjy, s` yù cdhw tehy w`rchg nt tent

p`ldt, rliet0

OC; L glg d`t o`dlt`r went tehy whrh g`ldi wlte lt. Wehy whrh thjjldi oh

tent tehrh whrh bhrtnld teldis, yù cd`w, tent, tent tehy glg hvhdtunjjy

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iht nbbhss t` teh b`dthdt ondnihohdt systho. Ns fnr ns L cd`w, tehy glgdt

envh nbbhss t` ndyteldi ldthrdnj. Ndg, my ldthrdnj, L ohnd, sòhteldi tent

ls d`t f`rwnrg-fnbldi, sòhteldi tent yù wùjg d`t `tehrwlsh mh nmjh t`

nbbhss my teh Ldthrdht.

KB; Ooo eoo.

OC; @ur b`dthdt ondnihohdt systho yù bùjg SXL_. Wrlmudhs b`dthdt

ondnihohdt systho yù bùjg nbbhss terùie teh Ldthrdht. Xo, ninld, tents

`dh `f te`sh teldis L njwnys teùiet wns n fjnw `d tehlr hdg, mut

rhinrgjhss. Wehrh whrh nbtunjjy tw` b`dthdt ondnihohdt systhos. Wehy whrh

lghdtlbnj. Xo, ndg tehy m`te glg teh snoh teldi. Wehy m`te fhg ldt` teh

snoh shrvhr. Weh `djy glffhrhdbh wns tent `dh wns ldthrdnj. @dh wns

hxthrdnj. Mut, tehy whrh teh hxnbt snoh teldi.

KB; Ooo eoo.

OC; Lt wns kust e`w yù i`t nbbhss

KB; Rurh.

OC; -- t` teho wns glffhrhdt. Xo, mut teh brhghdtlnjs w`rchg nbr`ss teh

m`nrg. Weh jìld pnihs j``chg lghdtlbnj. Lo surh yùvh shhd njj `f tels.

KB; Ooo eoo.

OC; R`, uo, yù cd`w, tehy whrh, tehy, tehy wùjg thjj oh tent tehy snw

bhrtnld teldis, tent yhn, bjlbchg t` oh, ndg tehy t`jg oh tent tehy snw

bhrtnld teldis tent L glgdt hvhd cd`w whrh ld tehrh. Xo, lt mhbnoh bjhnr

t` oh nfthr n weljh tent Wrlmudh oust envh nt sòh p`ldt cd`wd tent tels

ushrdnoh wns ùt ld teh wljg. Wehy whrh thjjldi oh teldis tent hvhd w`rcldi

nt Wrlmudh L eng dhvhr shhd mhf`rh, mut sòhm`gy nt Wrlmudh eng t` envh

i`dh `d tehlr hdg ndg udj`bchg n j`t `f g``rs. Xo, lt wns njo`st ns lf, yù

cd`w, ndg pjhnsh g`dt tnch tels ùt `f b`dthxt mhbnush L g`dt cd`w tent

tels ls truh, mut mnshg `d oy `mshrvntl`ds, lt wns njo`st jlch tehy whrh

ilvhd suphr ushr nbbhss.

KB; Ndg, tent surprlshg yn.

OC; Yhjj, L eng dhvhr eng lt mhf`rh. SJnuiethr_ R`

KB; \hn. R`, yù invh teho teh nbbùdt, ndg tehy whrh, ndg yù whrh

surprlshg e`w hffhbtlvh tehy whrh ld thros `f nopjlfyldi lt rliet0

OC; L g`dt teldc tent ndym`gy we` j``chg nt lt frò teh ùtslgh wùjgdt

envh mhhd nmjh t` fliurh ùt e`w t` turd tent `d. Ld oy `pldl`d, yù cd`w,

ninld, yù iuys pr`mnmjy cd`w o`rh tend L g`. Ld oy `pldl`d, lt bnoh nbr`ss



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t` oh ns lf sòhm`gy nt Wrlmudh eng turdhg sòhteldi `d.

KB; @c.

OC; Wehy, tehy ony envh g`dh lt d`t cd`wldi teh blrbuostndbhs

KB; ]liet.

OC; Mheldg we` eng nbbhss t` tent nbbùdt. Wehy ony envh g`dh lt

KB; mut sòhe`w tels nbbùdt tent yù invh teho mhbnoh o`rh p`whrfuj tend

yù teùiet lt wns i`ldi t` mh.

OC; \hn.

KB; Ndg, tents went yùrh thjjldi oh.

OC; \hn.

KB; @c. Mut, ls lt tent rhnjjy surprlsldi wehd yùrh ghnjldi wlte tehsh

umhr enbchrs tent yùrh ghnjldi wlte0

OC; Lf whrh i`ldi mnbc t` teh oldgsht tent L eng nt teh tloh, lt glg.

KB; @c.

OC; Xo, lt rhnjjy glg mhbnush yù cd`w L, L, L fhjt udhnsy nmùt went L wns

shhldi, ndg ld teh mnbc `f oy oldg L cldg `f cdhw.

KB; Cldg `f nd ``ps oòhdt.

OC; D`, d` Yhjj, ehrhs, d`, went Lo tryldi t` iht nt ls \ù cd`w, teh

fhhjldi tent L eng wehd L flrst i`t ldt` teh r`ò `f mhldi udhnsy ndg d`t

mhldi nmjh t` sjhhp teh flrst bùpjh `f dliets tent wns prhfnbhg `d teh

fnbt tent tehrh wns npphnrhg t` mh n mjntndt glsrhinrg f`r ndy cldg `f

blvlj-blvljlty `r ndy cldg `f jnw.

KB; Ooo eoo.

OC; Lt kust shhohg t` mh g`ldi teldis mhbnush tehy bnd g` teldis. Ndg, mut,

L, L rhnjjy glgdt envh n i``g irnsp ndg stljj, t` tels gny, g`dt `d went

ls p`sslmjh `d tehlr hdg ndg went ls d`t. \ù cd`w, went tehy eng ndg went

tehy bnd g` ndg went tehy bndt g`. L, yù cd`w, kust mnshg `d oy cd`wjhgih

`f Wrlmudh ndg e`w teh Wrlmudh Bòpndys BOR w`rchg, lf yùrh ldtr`gubhg

t` n dhw hdvlr`dohdt, cldg `f jlch L wns, yù g`dt ldehrhdtjy cd`w went

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KB; Rurh.

OC; \ù fhhj `vhrwehjohg my lt, ld fnbt. Lf lts, lf yù envh nd nmudgndbh

`f stuff. Ndg

KB; Mut, yù tnjchg teho terùie lt n jlttjh mlt, L ohnd ld thros `f e`w t`

OC; Yhjj, cldg `f

KB; \hn, went yù cdhw.

OC; Vhry jlolthg teldis tent L cdhw.

KB; E`w t` dnvlinth.

OC; L, L cd`w e`w t` pumjlse n st`ry. Wehy, tehy glg pumjlse nd stJN Wlohs

`ry. @r, tehy, jht oh bjnrlfy. Xe, tehy hltehr pumjlsehg n dhw st`ry `r

tehy hglthg nd hxlstldi st`ry.

KB; D`w, nrh yù rhfhrrldi t` tent Belppy>229 st`ry0

OC; \hs, L teldc tehy hglthg nd hxlstldi st`ry.

KB; E`w glg yù fhhj wehd yù snw tent0

OC; Xo.

KB; L ohnd, yù cdhw tehrh wns n b`rrhjntl`d, Lo, Lo surh. E`w glg yù

fhhj0

OC; L glgdt cd`w went eng enpphdhg udtlj sòhm`gy p`ldthg lt ùt. Ndg, my

sòhm`gy, L ohnd sòhm`gy ld teh r`ò.

KB; LdthrdhtFhgs, yhn.

OC; Xo, ndg L rhnjjy g`dt rhohomhr went oy oldgsht wns. Lt wns

KB; Glg yù i` j``c nt teh st`ry0

OC; L glg j``c nt teh st`ry

KB; @c.

OC; --ndg L snvhg n sbrhhdse`t `f teh st`ry.

KB; Njrliet.

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OC; Ndg, L g`dt teldc L stljj envh nbbhss t` tent. Mut, L g` cd`w lts ùt

tehrh, uo. Ndg, L g`dt cd`w wehrh lt ls. Mut, L, L g` cd`w lt hxlsts

sòhwehrh. L envh i`dh mnbc ndg j``chg nt lt ndg shhd lt. Xe, lts stljj

bnbehg `d n I`ìjh shrvhr Lo surh.

KB; R`, yù g`dt rhnjjy rhohomhr e`w yù teùiet nmùt lt, L iuhss Lo

tryldi t` iht n shdsh `f, ue

OC; E`w L fùdg lt wns sòhm`gy ld teh bent r`ò jldchg t` lt.

KB; Jldchg t` lt. Ndg, tehd, mut yù cd`w, wehd, mut ujtlonthjy yù whrh

rhsp`dslmjh f`r tent mhbnush tents went Lo tryldi t` udghrstndg ns fnr ns

jlch, @`, L wlse L engdt g`dh tent, `r wns tehrh n

OC; L glgdt

KB; D`t tent shrlùs fhhjldi0 @r, went whrh yù fhhjldi0

OC; L glgdt i` ldt` teh shrvhr ndg bendih ndyteldi.

KB; R`, yù fhjt rho`vhg frò tent0

OC; W` mh bòpjhthjy e`dhst, L fhjt jlch L ldblthg lt.

KB; @c.

OC; Mut, ns fnr ns went tehy glg ld teh shrvhr, `r wehd tehy eng nbbhss t`

teh BOR, yù cd`w, L g`dt rhbnjj hvhr suiihstldi tent tehy g` bhrtnld

teldis.

KB; E`w g` yù fhhj nmùt tent d`w0

OC; Xo.

KB; J``cldi mnbc.

OC; L fhhj jlch d`w lt eng oldlonj lopnbt.

KB; @c.

OC; Ndg, tent wns sòhteldi tent wnsdt rhnjjy nggrhsshg my Wrlmudh. Xo,

lt, lt eng vhry j`w lopnbt.

KB; Njrliet.

OC; Ndg, t` mh e`dhst, L wns surprlshg mhbnush tels ls n irùp tent ens

njwnys eng elie lopnbt. Mut, went nppnrhdtjy enpphdhg wns tehrh wns `dh



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ushr ld teh r`ò. L g`dt rhohomhr went tehlr ushrdnoh wns. Lts pr`mnmjy

ld teh jìs, ndg wehd L shh lt, Ljj, Ljj rhohomhr lt. Wehrh wns `dh

phrs`d ld teh r`ò we` t``c lt up`d tehoshjvhs t` s`rt `f mh n jlttjh mlt

`f ldglvlgunj sehdndlinds. Ndg, uo, lt rhnjjy upsht Rnmu mhbnush Rnmu snlg

eh eng mli pjnds f`r te`sh nbbùdts, uo, ndg my te`sh nbbùdts, went L ohnd

ls tehy hvhdtunjjy, L fujjy mhjlhvh, mnshg `d teh b`dvhrsntl`ds tent whvh

eng wlteld ld teh r`ò tent L wnsdt njwnys n pnrt `f, mut glg `mshrvh, L

mhjlhvh tehy eng nbbhss t` `tehr nbbùdts.

KB; @d teh BOR0

OC; L g`dt cd`w e`w tehy eng nbbhss t` teho.

KB; Ooo eoo.

OC; L rhnjjy g`dt cd`w went tent pr`bhss ls jlch. Xo, L ony envh nt teh

tloh, mut L g`dt rhohomhr went lt wns jlch. L, L ihduldhjy g`dt rhohomhr

e`w t` g` lt d`w. Xo, mut, ndg L wùjgdt shh wey tehy wùjgdt.

KB; Rurh.

OC; Wehy eng n o`dte t` s`rt `f

KB; Y`rc `d lt.

OC; \ù cd`w, p`ch nrùdg tehrh. L g`dt teldc lt wns n vhry elie prl`rltyf`r teho. Xo, frndcjy, L teldc tent tehy, L g`dt mhjlhvh Rnmu wehd snlg

tehy eng mli pjnds f`r teh slth. Frndcjy, L teldc tent tehy j``chg nt lt

ndg tehy teùiet tels ls rhnjjy d`t w`rte ùr tloh. Ndg, teh rhns`d wey

tehy jht oh s`rt `f stny ld teh r`ò f`r ns j`di ns tehy glg ls mhbnush

tehy glgdt teldc tent oh mhldi ldv`jvhg wns i`ldi t`, ue, jht oh rhpernsh

tent. Wehy glgdt teldc `f oh `mshrvldi teho wns i`ldi t`, ue, g` ndy cldg

`f, envh ndy cldg `f slidlflbndt lopnbt `d went tehy whrh g`ldi. Lf

ndyteldi, L wns cldg `f, lf yù teldc `f lt ld thros `f n sbe``jynrg irùp

cldg `f teldi, L wns teh clg we` glgdt rhnjjy cd`w ndyteldi, ndg tehy

bùjg cldg `f ter`w mnbc t` lt ns jlch, yù cd`w

KB; Rurh.

OC; Wels clg glgdt cd`w ndyteldi mut wh cldg `f jlch mhldi nrùdg elo. Xo,

ndg tent wns njo`st ghjlmhrnth nfthr n weljh, yù cd`w, ue, L, L glg pjny

t` tent t` fldg ùt, yù cd`w, s`rt `f e`w tehy g` bhrtnld teldis. Ndg, L

bnd njrhngy thjj yù, yù cd`w fnr o`rh nmùt e`w tehy g` bhrtnld teldis

tend L glg. L ohnd tent tehrh whrh teldis tehy whrh tryldi t` hxpjnld t` oh

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KB; Ooo eoo.

OC; L g`dt envh n bòputhr mnbcirùdg ns fnr ns L pumjlse b`dthdt t` teh

bòputhr t` teh Ldthrdht, yù cd`w. L g`dt rhnjjy cd`w e`w oy `djldhmndcldi w`rcs

KB; ]liet.

OC; -- f`r hxnopjh, yù cd`w SJnuiethr_. Jlch, lts kust, L g`dt

udghrstndg teh, teh duts ndg m`jts `f e`w teldis iht frò

KB; Mhslghs ilvldi teho teh brhghdtlnjs t` teh BOR, uo, glg yù g` ndyteldi

hjsh t` teh systho0 Onymh ehjp teho g` sòhteldi tent wùjg mh b`dslghrhg

ljjhinj0

OC; Ns fnr ns L rhohomhr, L glgdt.

KB; @c.

OC; Glg yù envh sòhteldi ld oldg0

KB; Yhjj, L g`dt wndt t` pròpt yn. \hn, s`.

OC; Qjhnsh, lf, yù cd`w, L, L wndt t` mh bòpjhthjy e`dhst, t``.

KB; L cd`w. L

OC; R`, yù cd`w, went L g`dt

KB; Ndg, lts jlch L snlg mhf`rh, Lo bò Lo mhldi e`dhst wlte yù.

Wehrhs tw` lssuhs L wndt t` b`vhr. @dh ls tels lssuh wlte ilvldi ho teh

brhghdtlnjs t` teh BOR. Ndg, yùvh mhhd bndglg nmùt tent. \ùvh ngoltthg

yùr r`jh ld tent, ndg yùvh mhhd f`rtebòldi. R`, tents njj i``g. Weh

`tehr lssuh L wndthg t` tnjc nmùt wns, yù cd`w, teh, cldg `f teh honlj

stuff tent whdt `d wlte F`x nfthrwnrgs. D`w, Lo d`t surh ns fnr ns teh

jhinjltlhs `f tent, mut L ohnd, lt glg bnush sòh ehnrtnbeh wlte teho, ndg

OC; Weh honljs wns, wns t` mh ndtni`dlstlb, yù cd`w. Lt wns t` mh lt

wns, lt wns mnslbnjjy t` se`w tehlr vlhwhrs tent tels ls n bòpndy tent,

yù cd`w, L g`dt cd`w went tent wns nmùt kust d`w. Mut, uo, L glg shh n L

glg shh lt, Lo vhry `mshrvndt. Xo

KB; Yent wns tent0

OC; Weh ehng d`g mhtwhhd teh tw` `f yù. L g`dt cd`w went tent wns nmùt.



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KB; @e, Lo, Lo kust j``cldi `vhr t` shh lf Inmh SXL}. SJnuiethr_

OC; @e, d`. @e, tents fldh. Xo, f`rilvh oh tehd.

KB; @e d`. \ù, yùrh rhngldi teldis ld tehrh tent nrhdt tehrh. Mut, lts

`c.

OC; Lo rhngldi ldt` n j`t `f teldis rliet d`w. Wels ls, mhbnush Lo d`w

i`ldi t` envh t` yù cd`w

KB; Qr`bhss njj `f lt.

OC; ]liet, yù cd`w, ue, ndg fliurh ùt wehrh teldis i` frò ehrh. Xo, ns

fnr ns, teh honljs lt wns, L g`dt teldc tent. Lt wns o`rh `r jhss

e``jlindlso.

KB; E``jlindlso. Mut, nt teh snoh tloh, yù cd`w, L wns cldg `f strubc my

tent, ndg L, L, ndg tent onchs shdsh. Xe, s` wh eng teh honljs yù t``c.

Xe, yù glg nbtunjjy b`dtnbt sòh f`jcs, yù cd`w, ndg, ndg sbrhwhg teldis

up tehrh f`r ho. L ohnd, went wns, lts kust e``jlindlso0 Yhrh yù tryldi

t` we`, we` whrh yù ndiry nt0 Yns lt Mrndg`d Ohrbhr0 Yns lt teh bòpndy,

ld ihdhrnj0 Bnush

OC; Lt wns, lt wns

KB; -- mhbnush teh hopj`yhhs whrh sòhwent thrrlflhg, ns whjj, ns yù wùjgudghrstndg. @r, glg yù d`t, whrh yù udnwnrh `f tels0

OC; Wehrh wns pr`mnmjy n j`t `f teldis tent L wnsdt nwnrh `f tent,

frndcjy, L g`dt bnrh t` cd`w.

KB; @c. L i`t t` thjj yn, L ohnd n iuy jlch K`shpe Euhrtn. L ohnd glg yù

cd`w elo0

OC; L glg.

KB; Yent, went whrh yù teldcldi0 Glg yù wndt t` eurt elo0

OC; Xo.

KB; Yhrh yù ndiry wlte elo0

OC; Wehrh whrh teldis tent enpphdhg gurldi teh bùrsh `f oy hopj`yohdt

tehrh, ndg hvhd nfthrwnrgs, tent yù cd`w, eh wns s`rt `f rhsp`dslmjh f`r.

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OC; Ndg, L ihduldhjy mhjlhvh tent tehrh wns nd honlj tent bnoh mnbc t` oh

nmùt `dh `f oy enjf mr`tehrs SXL_ fùdg oh `d teh Ldthrdht tent frndcjy L

fhjt eh wns rhsp`dslmjh f`r.

KB; @c.

OC; Ndg, stljj g`.

KB; Njrliet. R`

OC; W` teh hxthdt `f tent oy `mshrvntl`d bhrtnld SXL_ eh wns usldi SXL_.

Reùjg sny bhrtnld SXL} eh wns usldi.

KB; ]liet.

OC; Xo, SXL_ flt.

KB; Ndg, yù whdt terùie pr`xy shrvhrs f`r njj `f tent.

OC; B`rrhbt.

KB; D`w, yù snlg yù whrhdt n enbchr, phr sh, mut yù glg udghrstndg e`w

t` iht n pr`xy shrvhr ndg e`w t` ush lt.

OC; L g`dt udghrstndg went pr`xy shrvhr ls, jlch, L,L g`dt udghrstndg teh

ldtrlbnth ghtnljs `f n

KB; Mut, s` wehd yù whdt t` \ne``! F`r hxnopjh

OC; SXL_ Jht oh sny tels. Lts d`t, L, L g`dt hvhd cd`w lf went L wns

usldi wns n pr`xy shrvhr. Yent L wns usldi wns n vlrtunj prlvnth b`ddhbtl`d

KB; @c.

OC; Vlrtunj prlvnth dhtw`rc.

KB; Ndg, e`w glg yù sht tent up0

OC; L pnlg n bòpndy. Wehy invh oh s`ftwnrh ndg eng nbbhss.

KB; Yent bòpndy glg yù pny0

OC; Lts bnjjhg @vhrpjny.

KB; @vhrpjny.

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KB; Ndg, e`w glg yù jhnrd nmùt @vhrpjny0

OC; L I`ìjhg, uo, e`w t` wntbe Mrltlse thjhvlsl`d frò teh Xdlthg Rtnths0Ndg, I`ìjh, ue, hxbush oh, @vhrpjny ls nd, ls n shrvlbh tent mljjs ltshjf

nd hxpntrlnth shrvlbh wehrh yù bnd lf yù wns ld `dh bùdtry, yù bnd

wntbe jlvh thjhvlsl`d `r `d-ghondg thjhvlsl`d frò nd`tehr bùdtry. Xo, lt

gnwdhg `d oh, uo, ndg f`rilvh oh, L g`dt rhohomhr wehd L slidhg up f`r

tels shrvlbh, ldltlnjjy.

KB; Njrliet.

OC; Lt gnwdhg `d oh, teùie, tent teh shrvlbh invh oh n glffhrhdt LQ

nggrhss.

KB; Ndg, glg yù behbc tehsh LQ nggrhsshs t` shh wehrh tehy whrh bòldi

frò0

OC; L g`dt rhohomhr lf L glg, mut L, mut tehy whrh f`rhlid t` oh.

KB; @c.

OC; Xo, went L bnd thjj yù ls tent, uo, yhs, L glg, L glg behbc teho.

KB; @c.

OC; Ld njj SXL_. F`rilvh oh f`r teh mrnld jnpsh. L rnd teho terùie jlch n

we`-ls-oy-LQ-shrvlbh

KB; Xe eue.

OC; -- t` fldg ùt lf tehy whrh bòldi frò teh bùdtry tehy snlg tehy whrh

bòldi frò.

KB; ]liet.

OC; Ndg, went, ndg e`w, yù cd`w, e`w tehy whrh rhilsthrhg ndg teldis jlch

tent. Ndg, tels wns mhf`rh oy ldv`jvhohdt, oy `mshrvntl`d wlte Nd`dyoùs.Wels wns, L teldc L wns stljj w`rcldi nt F`x wehd L slidhg up f`r tels

shrvlbh.

KB; @c.

OC; Ndg, lt wns Sbjhnrs ter`nt_. L wns mj`wd nwny my teh fnbt tent yù

bùjg g` tels. L eng dhvhr cd`wd tels hxlsthg, ndg frndcjy, eng L cd`wd

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KB; SJnuiethr_

OC; \ù cd`w, f`r n weljh, L, L wnsdt n bustòhr `f tehlrs nfthr n weljh.

KB; ]liet.

OC; Ndg, L rhbhdtjy slidhg up ninld wehd teh @jyoplbs enpphdhg. Xo, mhbnush

wh dhhghg nbbhss t`, yù cd`w, i`` vlgh`. Ndg, DMB ls SXL_. Xo, Sbjhnrs

ter`nt_. Lts t`tnjjy lrrhjhvndtSXL_, yù nschg oh.

KB; L, Lo ihttldi nt yù, ue, wehd yùrh shdgldi tehsh honljs, yù cdhw

yù whrh nd`dyoùs ndg d`t trnbcnmjh my F`x Dhws.

OC; L glgdt cd`w lf L wns d`t trnbcnmjh. Lt dhvhr `bburrhg t` oh t`

wehtehr `r d`t Sbjhnrs ter`nt_ L wns bòpjhthjy, yù cd`w, ud-trnbcnmjh.Mut, L, L wns nt jhnst nwnrh tent tehrh wns nd hxtrn jnyhr mhtwhhd oh ndg

ndym`gy hjsh.

KB; \hn. Ndg, nt teh tloh, yùr, lts kust enrnssohdt. Yent glg yù e`ph t`

nbbòpjlse my g`ldi lt0

OC; Lt wnsdt hvhd rhnjjy enrnssohdt. Oy whjj

KB; E``jlindlso `r kust ghfnbhohdt `r went wns

OC; J``cldi mnbc `d lt d`w, tents went L wùjg bjnsslfy lt ns. Nt teh

tloh, teùie, tent wnsdt oy ldthdt. Yent oy ldthdt wns, ls, ns nd ndiry

f`rohr hopj`yhh wns t` sny t` tehlr vlhwhrs, J``c, tels ls wents i`ldi

`d.

KB; Ooo eoo.

OC; Ndg, L rhohomhr `dh `f teh honljs tent L shdt wns nmùt teh, lts jlch

nd lQng b`dthst, `r sòh cldg `f b`dthst tent wns i`ldi `d tent wns oy

lghn, my teh wny, welbe Lo ijng tehy glg. Xo, mut tehrh wns n b`dthst tent

wns i`ldi `d, ndg teh b`dthsts tehrh nrh d`t htelbnjjy, uo, ndg onymh d`t

hvhd jhinjjy, uo, wents teh w`rg0 Qjnyhg, L iuhss.

KB; Rurh.

OC; L ohnd, f`r jnbc `f n mhtthr w`rg, hxhbuthg, ndg SXL_. Weh-tehrh nrh

bhrtnld prnbtlbhs tent tehy g` tent Lo d`t surh lf tehyrh ljjhinj `r d`t,

mut wns n b`dbhrd t` oh wehd L w`rchg tehrh. Ndg, L nlrhg te`sh b`dbhrds.

Ndg, L snlg, Jlsthd, lf sòhm`gy, yù cd`w, ihts tels ùt tehrh, tels

bùjg mh rhnjjy mng. @dh `f teho wns, yù cd`w, wh glg n b`dthst bnjjhg

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teh Bnse Irnm. Yh whrh `dh `f fùr WV stntl`ds t` g` tels Bnse Irnm

b`dthst wehrh wh eng jlch $>11,111 ndg n $>,111,111, ld sldijhs ndg `tehr

ghdòldntl`ds tent wh invh n b`dthstndt teh nmljlty SXL_.

KB; Ooo eoo.

OC; Ndg, tehy i`t t` chhp wenthvhr wns jhft. Wurds ùt, n j`bnj p`jltlblnd

wns tnpphg t` g` tent. Eh w`d. Xo. SJnuiethr_

KB; SJnuiethr_ Yent n surprlsh!

OC; SXL_ ohnd

KB; \hn, L bnd SXL_.

OC; Eh w`d fnlrjy, yù cd`w. Wehrh wns d`

KB; D`, L, L

OC; Wehrh wns d` ghbhptl`d i`ldi `d tehrh, mut went b`dbhrdhg oh wns tent

lt mhbnoh hvlghdt t` oh tent ondnihohdt ndg `tehr hopj`yhhs whrhdt nwnrh

`f teh fnbt tent wh whrh `d n ghjny `d `tehr mr`ngbnst shrvlbhs. Ndg, teh

rhns`d wey L mrldi tent up ls mhbnush `dh `f teh wnys tent yù hdthrhg ldt`

tels b`dthst wns n duomhr fjnsehg `d teh sbrhhd nt n bhrtnld tloh.

KB; Xe eue.

OC; Ndg, yù bnjj tent duomhr, ndg lf yù whrh duomhr x, yù cd`w, yù

whrh ter`wd ldt` tels j`tthry systho. Ndg, `dh phrs`d wns plbchg frò teh

j`tthry systho ndg tents we` i`t teh `pp`rtudlty t` pnrtnch ld teh

b`dthst. D`dh `f us teùiet tels b`dthst wns n i``g lghn. Weh hopj`yhhs

whrh, yù cd`w, tent pnrtlblpnthg ld lt, uo, mut `dh `f teh b`dbhrds tent L

ohdtl`dhg wns tent whrh `d n ghjny `d bhrtnld shrvlbhs. \ù cd`w, wehd wh

nlr teh duomhr `d Bòbnst, `d ùr ld-eùsh bnmjh systho, ue, `r `d Bòbnst,

uo, lts d`t i`ldi ùt nt teh snoh tloh ns ph`pjh tent nrh `d Glse Dhtw`rc

`r GL]HBWV.

KB; Ooo eoo.

OC; Ndg, tehyrh ihttldi lt >1, >=, j >8 shb`dgs jnthr. Ndg, tehyrh d`t

ihttldi teh `pp`rtudlty t` pnrtlblpnth, ndg lts slopjy mhbnush teh

pr`gubhrs wndt t` iht lt `vhr wlte

KB; \hn.

OC; -- ns s``d ns p`sslmjh. Ndg, eng tent i`tthd ùt yù cd`w, lt wùjg

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KB; \hn.

OC; Ndg, rlietjy s`. L ohnd tent wns nd hxtrhohjy ldshdsltlvh ndg udbnrlditeldi t` g` t` vlhwhrs. L mrldi tent up mhbnush SXL_.

KB; \hn. D`w, L shh yùr p`ldt. \hn.

OC; Went wns `dh `f teh bntnjysts mheldg went wns i`ldi `d. Xo, wlte teh

honljs ls tent, yù cd`w, t` s`rt `f sny, J``c, tehrhs njj tehsh iloolbcy

teldis tent teh stntl`d ls g`ldi t` iht yù t` tudh ld, ndg yù iuys nrh

cldg `f subchrldi yùrshjf ldt` lt mhbnush yùrh tncldi lt ld, mut yùrh

d`t mhldi ilvhd n fnlr `pp`rtudlty t`

KB; R`, lts, lts cldg `f n, ld sòh shdsh lt sùdgs t` oh jlch yù whrh,

yù whrh upsht ndg ndiry. Ndg, ld sòh shdsh, lts n rliethùs ndihr nmùt

sòh `f tehlr nbtl`ds. Xo.

OC; R`, L shdt honljs, yù cd`w L wns nmjh t` `mtnld honljs frò n shpnrnth

b`dthdt ondnihohdt systho tent, ninld, L stljj eng nbbhss t`. Xo, L g`dt

hvhr rhbnjj ilvldi tent t` ndym`gy ldv`jvhg wlte teh Nd`dyoùs irùp.

KB; L teldc yù `ffhrhg t` shjj lt t` teho, ns L rhbnjj, ld `dh `f yùr,

ue, teldis. Ndym`gy, L teldc, yù t`jg teho tent yù eng n jlst terùie,

ndym`gy wndt t` muy n jlst `f F`x Dhws0

OC; \hn, oy, oy, oy e`dhst ldthdtl`d wns d`t t` shjj lt t` teho. Lt wns t`

pr`v`ch rhnbtl`d.

KB; Qr`v`ch rhnbtl`d.

OC; \hn. Xo, s`, rliet nwny, tent wùjg d`t envh enpphdhg.

KB; R`, yù dhvhr invh teho teh honlj jlst `tehr tend, ndg teh `djy wny yù

ushg lt wns

OC; W` mh bòpjhthjy e`dhst wlte yù, L g`dt rhohomhr lf L hvhr glg ilvh

teho teh honlj jlst.

KB; @c.

OC; L rhnjjy g`dt rhohomhr.

KB; Njrliet.

OC; L g`dt, L envh d` rhns`d t` mhjlhvh tehy hvhr ushg lt f`r ndyteldi,

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KB; L rhng sòh `f te`sh honljs. Eh wns, tent iuy wns prhtty upsht. L ohnd

eh glgdt cd`w welbe wny wns up wlte te`sh honljs.

OC; Mrndg`d0

KB; Mrndg`d.

SQnush_

KB; Lf yù whrh ilvhd n bendbh, wùjg yù np`jìlzh t` Mrndg`d nmùt went

yù glg0

OC; \hn.

KB; @c.

OC3 Ndg, lt wùjg mh sldbhrh.

KB; L mhjlhvh lt.

OC; Weh, teh ehsltntl`d wns `d tw` jhvhjs. \ù cd`w, t` g` ndyteldi, ndg

`dh wns wùjg L mh ldglbtldi oyshjf. Rhhos lrrhjhvndt nt tels p`ldt. Ndg,

teh shb`dg ls kust homnrrnssohdt. @f, `f, yù cd`w, tryldi t` mh teh, `f

wndtldi, L seùjg sny, wndtldi t` mh teh mliihr phrs`d ndg d`t envldi mhhd.

KB; Yhjj, ehrhs went L wljj thjj yù d`w ndg ndswhr t` tent. Flrst `f njj,yù cd`w, wlte rhinrg t`, ue, teh pnst `r teh fnbts, yù bndt bendih went

yù glg.

OC; ]liet.

KB; Ndg, yù bndt bendih teh fnbts.

OC; L nirhh, yhn.

KB; Ndg, s` i`ldi f`rwnrg frò wehrh yù nrh slttldi rliet ehrh t`gny

OC; Wels ls `dh `f teh rhns`ds wey Lo tnjcldi t` yù ns `pp`shg t` snyldi,

yù cd`w, L wndt n jnwyhr, `r L wndt t` tnjc t`, yù cd`w, bùdshj nt

Wrlmudh, `r, ninld Lo s`rry, ]huthrs `r ndyteldi jlch tent ls mhbnush, yù

cd`w, L glg lt.

KB; L cd`w. Ndg, mut o`rh tend tent teh teldi, ndg tels mrldis oh t` oy

shb`dg p`ldt, ls lts `dh teldi t` cd`w yù glg lt, ndg tehrhs nd`tehr

teldi t` mh, ue, t` envh sufflblhdt benrnbthr ndg sufflblhdt euondlty

rhnjjy t` kust fnbh teh trute ndg g` teh rliet teldi f`r teh ph`pjh tent

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Mut, lts, lts n benrnbthr lssuh, ndg L, ndg went yùrh se`wldi oh d`w ls

tent yù envh tent benrnbthr. Ndg, L, L ngolrh tent, L teldc tents, ue, L

teldc tents n i``g teldi, s`.

OC; Wehrh nrh b`dshquhdbhs f`r hvhryteldi ph`pjh g`, ndg f`r went L g`, f`r

went `tehr ph`pjh envh g`dh, yù cd`w

KB; Ooo eoo.

OC; -- tehrh nrh, tehrh whrh b`dshquhdbhs f`r went enpphdhg nt F`x. Ndg, oy

b`dbhrd wns, yù cd`w, ld mhldi eurt wns tent tehrh whrh d`t hvhr i`ldi t`

mh ndy b`dshquhdbhs.

KB; \hn.

OC; Ndg, d`w, tehrh whrh.

KB; \hn.

OC; Ndg, my d`w Lo teldc-Lo i`ldi t` mnbc t` oy stnth `f oldg

KB; Ooo eoo.

OC; -- ld Ghbhomhr. D`w, tehrh whrh. Ndg, uo, lt glgdt bendih ndyteldi.

KB; \hn.

OC; Ld thros `f, yù cd`w, lt glgdt onch oh fhhj mhtthr.

KB; L cd`w. Fuddy e`w tent w`rcs, lsdt lt0

Oc; @f bùrsh mhf`rhendg L wùjg envh eng d` lghn lf, lf lt glg `r d`t.

KB; \hn.

OC; Mut, lt glgdt onch oh fhhj ndy mhtthr, yù cd`w, lt, lt frndcjy, `dh

`f teh rhns`ds wey L nschg Mrndg`d ùt t` b`ffhh wns mhbnush L glgdt, jlch

L snlg, ldltlnjjy, L glgdt wndt tehrh t` mh ndy ndlo`slty. L kust wndthgtehrh t` mh, yù cd`w, L kust wndthg us t` mh nmjh t` w`rc tìhtehr ninld.

KB; \hn.

OC; Yehtehr `r d`t wh envh frlhdgselp `r n w`rcldi musldhss rhjntl`dselp, L

kust wndthg us t` mh nmjh t` w`rc tìhtehr ninld. Ndg, f`r sòh `f teh

ph`pjh `d teh stnff, wh envh mhhd w`rcldi tìhtehr. \ù cd`w, Lvh

b``rgldnthg wlte tehlr whm pr`gubhr, teh phrs`d tent d`w ens oy k`m, SXL_

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OC; L mhjlhvh tent Mrndg`d wns thrrlflhg. SJnuiethr_

KB; Ne, L g`dt cd`w e`w thrrlflhg Mrndg`d wns. L tnjchg t` sòh `f teh

ilrjs tehrh. Wehy whrh ihduldhjy upsht, ndg L teldc tehlr fhnr wns

OC; Wehy whrh upsht mhbnush

KB; -- tehy glgdt cd`w we` wns mheldg tels. Ndg, tehrh envh mhhd sòh

`tehr lssuhs nt teh `fflbh mhbnush hopj`yhh o`rnjh ony d`t envh mhhd s`

irhnt. Wehy glgdt cd`w went wns i`ldi `d, ndg ph`pjh envh n fhnr `f teh

udcd`wd.

OC; L glgdt

KB; Ndg, tehrh wns irhntjy shdsh `f teh udcd`wd.

OC; L glgdt ehjp b`dtrlmuth t` teh fnbt tent teh hopj`yohdt `r teh o`rnjh

wns d`t teh mhst.

KB; Ooo eoo.

OC; Mhbnush L wnjchg ùt `f snjhs ohhtldis, ndg L terhw flts ld teh

dhwsr`ò, o`st `f welbe Mrndg`d whrh ldv`jvhg ld. Xo, ns n ondnihr, L

teldc, yù cd`w, j``cldi, d`t oh ns n ondnihr, mut j``cldi nt Mrndg`d ns n

ondnihr, tehrh whrh bhrtnld teldis tent, yù cd`w, whrh kust whrh nlrhg ùt

ld teh pumjlb tent L teldc eh wndthg, eh fhjt whrh p`sltlvh mhbnush ehwndthg t` muljg n gho`brntlb w`rc hdvlr`dohdt. Mut, ld rhnjlty, seùjgdt

envh enpphdhg.

KB; ]liet.

OC; Mhbnush yù kust bndt ondnih ph`pjh tent wny.

KB; L udghrstndg.

OC; \ù bndt pumjlbnjjy ondnih ph`pjh tent wny. Weh nriuohdt tent eh ndg L

eng tent ujtlonthjy jhft, yù cd`w, L ghblghg tent L wndthg t` jhnvh nfthr

wh eng tent nriuohdt `d Weursgny. L wns `fflblnjjy throldnthg `d O`dgny. @d

oy pnphrw`rc lt snlg L wns jnlg `ff, welbe L teldc tent tehy glg tent s`

tent L bùjg b`jjhbt teh udhopj`yohdt welbe ls SJnuiethr_

KB; @r, onymh d`t t` eurt yù ld yùr futurh hdghnv`rs.

OC; Weh, teh

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OC; Weh, teh ph`pjh tent NMB sp`ch wlte wehd L wns mhldi ldthrvlhwhg tehrh

t`jg we` wùjg hvhdtunjjy mhbòh oy ondnihr tent L wns flrhg.

KB; Eoo.

OC; Ndg, L eng t` ud-gli tent e`jh, ndg sny, Nbtunjjy, ehrhs went

enpphdhg. Ndg, L npprhblnth tent tehy invh oh tent `pp`rtudlty, mut

KB; Eoo.

OC; Weh L ihduldhjy mhjlhvh sòh ph`pjh whrh upsht. L g`dt teldc tent

tehy whrh, yù cd`w, yù sp`ch wlt

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