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UBS – Nordic Financial Services Conference 10 September 2009 - Christine Bosse, CEO
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Agenda
The strength of the top line
The search for growth
'Normalised' capital needs
Looking to the 'post-crisis' landscape
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Strength of the top line - TrygVesta versus market
TrygVesta The market
Premium growth in %
if…
Codan
TrygVesta
GjensidigeTrygVesta in
local currency
-4
0
4
8
12
2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 H1 09
Gross premium incomeDKKm
16,021
16,606
17,323
15,705
2005 2006 2007 2008
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New Markets add growth
New and old markets contribution to premium growth 2005 - 2009
SE+FI
DK+NO
DK+NO SE+FI
Growth contribution
3.6 3.5 4.00.3 2.0
0.8 1.3
4.0
1.62.6
0
2
4
6
8
10
2005 2006 2007 2008 2009e
Denmark & Norway New Markets Moderna
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Moderna adds growth and creates break-even
Combined ratio Sweden (incl. Moderna in Q2 09)
0
50
100
150
200
250
300
Q1 07 Q2 07 Q3 07 Q4 07 Q1 08 Q2 08 Q3 08 Q4 08 Q1 09 Q2 09
Gross premiums (incl. Moderna)DKKm
67
5864
5445
3727
179
31
Q3 06 Q4 06 Q1 07 Q2 07 Q3 07 Q4 07 Q1 08 Q2 08 Q3 08 Q4 08 Q1 09 Q2 09
322
ModernaDistribution channel Sweden
Customer centre
Call centre
Bancassurance
Car/boat dealers
Insurance brokers
Affinity groups
Real estate agents
Nordea online bank
E-business/self-service
Franchise
Moderna =
6
2.1%
6.2%
12.4%
7.5%
8.0%9.6%
17.3%
0
100,000
200,000
300,000
400,000
500,000
600,000
700,000
800,000
900,000
1,000,000
2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008
Number of insured in Danmark TrygVesta's market share
Health Care insurances add growth
Development in number of health care insured in Denmark
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Self-service – adds growth
• Target to sell 10,000 policies in Denmark in 2009
• 1.7m visitors to home page January to July
• 142,000 visitors to ”My-Page” in January to July. Increased by over 150% this year
• Branding campaign not launched yet
• 180,000 signed up for electronic communication (DK+NO)
• Web solution (“Bedrifts-net”) launched for commercial and corporate customers. 25% penetration target by end 2009
No commissions or compensation in the sales process
No expenses in back-office and mailing
0
50
100
150
200
250
300
350
January February March April May June July0
200
400
600
800
1,000
1,200
1,400
1,600
Monthly sale (LHS) Accumulated sale (RHS)
No. ofpolicies
No. ofpolicies
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and new dimensions….
From the customers’ point of view From the employees’ point of view
SM
S
My-page
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3.03.53.6
5.0
1.30.8
-2
0
2
4
6
8
10
2007 2008 outlook2009
E-2010 E-2011 E-2012
Denmark & Norway Sweden & Finland
4.4%4.8%
8.0%
E2010-2012
3-5%
Growth outlook 2010-2012
Full year effect from Moderna
adds 1%
Macro uncertainty will reduce growth outlook
• volume decline within workers’ compensation
due to unemployment
• fewer new cars sold, retention increase
• fewer new houses
Growth in local currency
Number of unemployed in Denmark and Norway
0
40,000
80,000
120,000
160,000
2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009
Denmark Norway
%
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Recently implemented price increases add growth
DenmarkJan 09 Apr 09 Jul 09
House building New product
Health Care 15% 10%
Accident 15%
Travel 20%
Agriculture 10%
Norway Jul 07 Jan 08 Jul 08 Jan 09
House building 2% 6% 1.8% 7.4%
Motor 4.8% 1.6% 1% 5.0%
SwedenApr 09 Jun 09
Motor 15%
House building 8%
House content 5%
Accident 5%
Finland Apr 09
Motor 9%
House content 11%
Accident 11%
Holiday house 10%
Travel 10%
Motorcycle 13%
TrygVestaTotal effect of price increases*
2009 2010
DKK 245m DKK 360m
*Including effect of price increases from 2008
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and the reason behind the price increases
Claims ratio
71.370.5
70.170.6
74.7
H1 05 H1 06 H1 07 H1 08 H1 09
Combined ratio
88.587.6
91.9
87.487.1
H1 05 H1 06 H1 07 H1 08 H1 09
Expense ratio
16.7 16.4 15.8 15.3 15.0
0.5 0.5 1.2 1.7 2.2
H1 05 H1 06 H1 07 H1 08 H1 09
17.2 16.9 17.0 17.0 17.2
Denmark & Norway Finland & Sweden
The marketCombined ratio
if…
Codan Operating
ratio
TrygVesta
Gjensidige
Codan "CR"
84
88
92
96
2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 H1 09
TrygVesta
TrygVesta TrygVesta
Lower interest
impacts 2%
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Behind the curve but catching up
Houses Denmark
90
100
110
120
130
140
150
Q105
Q205
Q305
Q405
Q106
Q206
Q306
Q406
Q107
Q207
Q307
Q407
Q108
Q208
Q308
Q408
Q109
Q209
Average premium Average risk
Private cars Norway
90
95
100
105
110
Q105
Q205
Q305
Q405
Q106
Q206
Q306
Q406
Q107
Q207
Q307
Q407
Q108
Q208
Q308
Q408
Q109
Q209
2005 2006 2007 2008 2009
Premium increases:
Houses Denmark:
New product Q4 2008
up 11%
Privat cars Norway:
1 Jul 07: 4.8%
1 Jan 08: 1.6%
1 Jul 08: 1.0%
1 Jan 09: 5.0%
1 Jul 09: 6.6%
Development since 2005…… …… and more recently
2005 2006 2007 2008 2009
Private cars Norway
90
100
110
2008 2009
Houses Denmark
90
100
110
2008 2009
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Search for growth in the Nordic region
NorwayEUR 4.4bn
TrygVesta, 18.0%
If, 28.9%
Other, 13.9%
Sparebank1, 9.9%
Gjensidige,29.3%
FinlandEUR 3.4bn
TrygVesta, 1.5%Pohjola,
23.4%
If, 25.3%Other, 20.6%
Fennia, 10.6%
Tapiola, 18.6%
DenmarkEUR 6.1bn
TrygVesta, 20.8%
If, 5.0%
Alm. Brand, 10.5%
Topdanmark, 19.6%
Other, 26.8%
Codan, 13.8%
Alka, 3.5%
Sweden EUR 5.5bn
Vesta (incl. Moderna),
2.6%
Länsforsk., 29.2%
If, 19.7%
Other, 17.2%
Codan, 17.1%
Folksam, 14.2%
Top 4
86%
Top 4
65%
Top 4
80%
Top 4
78%
Source: FNH.no
Source: F&P and company figures Source: forsakringsforbundet.com
Source: FKL.fi
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'Normalised' capital needs Looking to the 'post-crisis' landscape
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Solvency II and political changes
Political changes
Future
2012-14
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Capitalisation
Buffer
Financial crisis creates upward pressure
Individual solvency
Rating Capital
Capital strategyConsiderations
1970’s 2005 2007 2012
• S&P RBC model
• Individual capital assessment
• QIS models
Capital planning instruments
Regulatory Capital
• S&P RBC model
• Internal model (ALM)
• Solvency II standardised model
• Solvency I • S&P CAR model
TAC S&P
Dividend policy:
• 50% of net earnings
• share buy backs in addition
Self-imposed buffer
Capital needed to
obtain target rating
Capital needed to
fulfill strategy
Regulatory
requirements
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Financial crisis
Operational risk
Capital add-ons
Quantitative impact Solvency II impact
Solvency II issues
Modeling and data
Modeling and dataLarge vs.
small companies
Large vs. small
companies
Tier capital structure
Tier capital structure
Capital planning – a moving target
Internal modeling
Diversifica-
tion
S&P RBC “A” model: 52 - 56% of premiums
QIS 4 TrygVesta: 38% of premiums
Solvency I : 16% of premiums
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Strong capital base
6,000
7,000
8,000
9,000
10,000
11,000
12,000
2006
Q1 07
Q2 07
Q3 07
2007
bef
ore
payo
ut
2007
afte
r pay
out
Q1 08
Q2 08
Q3 08
2008
bef
ore
payo
ut
2008
afte
r pay
out
Q1 09
Q2 09
Target capital (A- level) Buffer (5%) Surplus capital
DKKm
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Post crisis landscape
Fewer players
Fewer players
Increased capital
requirements
Increased capital
requirements
Underwriting discipline
Underwriting discipline
Try to stay at the cutting
edge…
Try to stay at the cutting
edge…
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Summary
Strong growth outlook for the coming years
Strong take on improving profitability in all markets
Solid capital position and prepared for the future
Peace of mind for investors
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Questions please