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Transcript of TheProblemthis is rigged9:53am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by abby

This is about to be great9:54am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Jake

Just kidding9:54am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Jake

what did everyone think about the town meeting in the podcast?9:55am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by abbie

You all remember that she didn't say it, right?9:56am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

She wanted to, but couldn't9:56am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

didn't say what?9:56am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by JacobH.

yes9:56am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by abbie

I think it was crazy. I can understand where they're coming from, but these kids actually want aneducation.9:56am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Kaitlyn

I think some parents would feel bad, but in a situation like that I don't think it would changeanyone's mind.9:56am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Ryan.H

But 1,000 plus kids did want to be there.9:57am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Ryan.H

Did the kids want to go to the new school?9:57am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

yes9:57am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Ryan.H

at least the signed up for it9:57am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Ryan.H

they*9:57am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Ryan.H

the parents should of seen it as it was, these kids weren't coming here to make a problem butrather going there because they need it9:57am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Evan



I think they did want to be there becuase even after they were required to each have an individualpass from a judge a lot of them stayed9:57am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Jessica

I really don't think it has to do with the school, it's really about what's going on outside of schoolfor them9:57am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by lo

That is a lot of effort to go through if they didnt really want to be there9:57am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Jessica

They gave the kids a choice. They could either stay at their current school or go to the new school.The kids that chose the new school9:57am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Kaitlyn

I think it's kinda a tough thing for the parent. When shopping for a home for most parents, theschool district is thoroughly analyzed.9:58am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by JacobH.

actually wanted an education9:58am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Kaitlyn

Which is making them act some way towards school9:58am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by lo

i think it depends on that specific persons attitude, if they want to learn or not9:58am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by emily

yeah i think they would get a better education out of it, but i also agree with abby they would haveto want to learn9:58am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Ty

I mean there's a reason those parents didn't choose normandy9:58am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by JacobH.

Great job Ben9:58am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Koby

Was this an issue of race?9:58am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Alex

Yes9:58am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Ryan.H

absolutely, but not solely9:58am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by JacobH.

Some folks suggest that in times like this kids from those bad schools "self-select" themselves outand would be good citizens..9:58am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

race was "hidden" in the parent's arguments



9:58am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Evan

i appreciate your words of kindness Koby9:58am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by ben

i think the prime example of how bad Normandy was was when they explained how her sisteralmost didn't graduate bc they lost her credits.9:59am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by abbie

Yes.The parents said it wasn't but we all know that it was.9:59am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Kaitlyn

In that case, what kids would apply to be sent there?9:59am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Koby

The ones that actually cared10:00am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by JacobH.

it was totally about race. it was about the parents pride.10:00am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by abbie

Are we more tolerant now?10:00am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

Because the busing would have to go both ways, right?10:00am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Koby

No10:00am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Alex

@rich not koby10:00am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Alex

It is a problem derived from race issues even if people want to claim it isn't about skin color. Thetwo schools and their separate culture10:00am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Ryan.H

I don't think so. I think we're just more censored and scared to say what we actually think10:00am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by JacobH.

Almost all people today will not admit either to others or to themselves that they are racist.Everybody likes to think they are accepting10:00am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Jessica

In today's society I don't think something like that would happen. Sure we are racist but not tosuch a bad extent.10:01am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Sean

What if JCPS folded and Oldham Co absorbed their students?10:01am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

of others. It is more of an internal thing that people do10:01am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Jessica



South would explode10:01am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Koby

We would have no room for students and our resources would diminish.10:01am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Sean

How would the community respond. (Assuming there was an East Oldham High)10:01am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

@rich i don't think we are more tolerant. i think we are more ignorant about it because we allbelieve it doesn't exist because it's 2017 an10:01am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Evan

oldham county schools would not be top 10 in best schools in Kentucky anymore10:02am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Dewey

there would be so many students, i think the quality of the education could possibly go down10:02am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by emily

Parents wouldn't be too happy. I mean my parents don't even want me to go to Ballard for a playmy friend is in because of what it's like.10:02am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by JacobH.

I wouldn't mind having JCPS students come to Oldham Co. If the students have a choice andchoose to comehere to helpbetter their education,10:02am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Kaitlyn

d the civil rights movement was a long time ago so everyone assumes it's fixed and moved on10:02am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Evan

then i say let them come10:02am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Kaitlyn

well then the JCPS students would have better access to resources that would better theireducation10:02am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Ty

I have noticed that teachers seem to be sort of racist to some kids, so how is a kid suppose to goto nice school but feeling like teachers10:02am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by lo

The parents thought that the new black kids would cause fights and lower test scores but a yearafter the integration the school remained10:02am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Ryan.H

stable10:02am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Ryan.H

@Ryan--what's so bad about Ballard?10:02am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

are not treating them the same



10:02am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by lo

I think most of the students would be ok with JCPS students coming here, but the parents wouldn'tbe10:02am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Hannah

I wouldn't care if kids from JCPS schools came to our schools, as long as they didn't distract fromour learning.10:02am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Maria

we are already overcrowded so we wouldn't have room. we would need another building, but asfar as the students I would be exited for10:03am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by abbie

new people10:03am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by abbie

A lot of these schools would be way too overcrowded to support all the students.10:03am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Sean

Look at Ballard and Eastern. Those schools are much larger than ours. We are struggling right nowto take care of the students we have.10:03am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by JacobH.

i feel as though when some kids come into community they aren't used to teachers seem to acttowards some kids differently10:03am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by lo

If we took on the JCPS students it would be much worse10:03am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by JacobH.

Evan I totally agree.10:03am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Ryan.H

@abbie--for the thought exercise, let's assume there is enough space via a new school10:03am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

if teachers are the leaders, what is there to follow if they aren't doing it right10:03am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by lo

I don't see a problem with bringing more students who want to be here, that's the point of a gooschool10:03am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Evan

good10:04am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Evan

then i would be fine with it10:04am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by abbie

People try to turn a blind eye to race issues because we are "modern and open minded" now.10:04am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Ryan.H



There are lots of kids at SOHS that don't want to be here now.10:04am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

agree?10:04am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

So let them drop out10:04am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Alex

I think it would be okay to bring in JCPS...as long as the teachers are still good those who want todo well will still have that opportunit10:04am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Jessica

I don't really care about the students coming, the only problem I see is the space. If that was fixedthen let them come in10:04am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by JacobH.

If let JCPS students come here we would have to expand the school, size wise10:04am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by NoahG

So if you'10:04am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

And most kids in JCPS i believe do want to do well.10:04am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Jessica

i think we are still racist, but in a very different way than previous generations10:04am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by abbie

*If we let10:05am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by NoahG

If the school is good,then we shouldn't withhold it from other people who are actually acquiringfor a better education.10:05am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Kaitlyn

I agree @Abbie. We are still racist, it is just more hidden10:05am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Jessica

So if you're an unmotivated 17/18 year old, you should just be allowed to fail?10:05am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

I think that if oldham merged with jefferson there would be plenty of race problems initially.10:05am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Ryan.H

I say if its all fair game and some kids just ginunely don't want a education let it be.10:05am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by lo

and i think black people are racist just as white people are10:05am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by abbie

But not to give up on some kids who may be facing things out of school we dont know about10:05am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by lo



I feel like the good thing about a small school is that teachers can put more time into individualstudents. If we add all these students it10:05am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Sean

Oldham county is a product of white flight10:05am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Ryan.H

would go away10:05am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Sean

You right ryan10:05am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by JacobH.

I think racism is the biggest underlying problem in America today10:06am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Alex

If more kids came to SOHS, more teachers would be hired.10:06am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

resources wouldn't be the issue.10:06am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

Whats your point @Rich10:06am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by JacobH.

would we need to add more to the school10:06am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Sean

Merging with Jefferson would start a huge conflict10:06am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Ryan.H

What would the conflict be exactly?10:06am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by JacobH.

I think the difference between our school and others has a lot to do with money and how we areraised10:06am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by abbie

i agree with abbie10:07am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by ben

I feel like the parents' concern w the "violent" francis howell students should be the same concernswe have with any students10:10am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Maria

There really is not any more violence there than here, I think. I came from a majority black schoolwhen I moved here, and nothing ever10:10am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Jessica

Any students have the potential to be violent10:10am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Maria

happened there any more than it does her



10:10am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Jessica

here*10:10am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Jessica

I agree with Jacob10:10am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Koby

Is there a drug problem here?10:10am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

In St.francis "crime" didn't even go up. That argument was all based on a fear of new black kidsmoving into the school.10:10am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Ryan.H

yes10:10am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by abbie

pot, heroin, etc10:10am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Doyon

ya but should we assume they are violent or give them the benefit of the doubt @maria10:10am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Sean

i agree with jacob, everywhere you go there will be problems with drugs and other things10:11am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Ty

we just assume the drug problem is rampant at low income schools because tv makes usassociate them10:11am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Doyon

not everyone who goes to private schools is rich10:11am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by abby

If you go to a private school though your going to be more wealthy than most.10:11am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Ryan.H

not always10:11am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Ryan

scholarships are often awarded10:11am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by abby

You might not be rich by your standards but compared to other school systems or other peopleyou would look rich.10:12am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Ryan.H

it's hard to get scholarships too10:12am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by abbie

whites use more drugs because they can afford it10:12am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Doyon

Does it matter what kind of drugs are being used?



10:12am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

we just only ever see black people using drugs on tv10:12am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Doyon

i think so10:13am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Ryan

drugs arent metal10:13am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Doyon

I still think the average student at a private school come from a higher socioeconomic class thanthose in the public school system10:13am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Koby

Yes @rich. Some drugs are more dangerous and more expensive than others which means somedrugs could be more of a threat to schools10:13am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Maria

I had to be patted down at a school once to take the act....and that's not even during school hours10:13am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by lo

Or if it is a white person on drugs, they are portrayed as the victim and not the bad guy @Doyon10:13am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Jessica

It's all based stereotypes and where you live10:13am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by NoahG

by saying that whites use more drugs bc they can afford it is slightly racist bc you are assumingthat blacks are all poor @ doyon10:13am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by abby

Do you think that Oldham County will look differently--demographically--in 5 years? 10? 15?10:13am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

the black guy is usually presented as the dealer10:13am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Doyon

What will happen then?10:13am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

my friends from private schools were shocked by the gun and bomb threat. lots of those kids aresheltered10:14am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by abbie

we see them as predators10:14am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Doyon

no rich10:14am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Jake

No i don't think it will change. @rich10:14am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Sean



we are so shelter10:14am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Jake

You might say morally you are for it but the district would rebel against it.10:14am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Ryan.H

no because the price of living here will continue to go up so no10:14am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by abbie

once jefferson county overflows into oldham, all the people in oldham will flee somewhere else10:15am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Doyon

Think about the businesses that are moving into this community... Walmart, Taco Bell, BurgerKing...10:15am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

Those, I'm sorry to say, aren't high end establishments...10:15am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

okay but tacos r the best10:15am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by abby

dont hate rich10:15am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by abby

hey, its all about perspective rich10:15am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Doyon

they need chick-fil-a10:15am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by ben

we should get chick fil a10:15am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Sean

you both rihgt10:15am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by JacobH.

right10:15am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by JacobH.

ayee sean10:15am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by ben

i agree10:15am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Maria

panera anyone???10:15am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by abby

No10:15am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by JacobH.

whats not high end about a dorito taco10:15am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Doyon



yeah we def need a panera10:16am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by emily

everything10:16am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Ryan

what is high end @doyon10:16am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Sean

taco bell is much more expensive than mcdonalds :010:16am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by abby

Perspective, sure, but what's I'm saying is that there is growth... and it's not excluding the lowerclasses.10:16am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

Verizon is moving across the street. I think Crestwood is turning into an area similar to Middleton10:16am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by abbie

the organic section in walmart is pretty "highend"10:16am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Doyon

i guess still nothing to do though10:16am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Ryan

If South wasn't here, do you think we would have more high end stores?10:17am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Matthew

are they actually putting a drive in here?10:17am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by abby

Children typically in the end like school. The environment of the school is what shapes theirattitude.10:17am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Ryan.H

thats pretty chill10:17am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by abby

I'd bet money on a new private high school opening up in Oldham Co in about ten years.10:17am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

Walmart and fast food places don't supply most of oldham county jobs though. Many people livehere for the schools and commute.10:17am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by abbie

The problem with Normandy was NOT the students. Integrating schools SHOULDN'T be a problem,but people have an unrealistic fear of somthing10:17am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Jessica

bad happening10:17am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Jessica

i agree with that statement



10:17am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Ryan

It might be affiliated with a church, but I bet it will happen.10:17am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

There should have been an east high. so will a private school just take its place?10:17am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Sean

And if it happened here, the same thing would go on.People would freak out.10:17am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Jessica

Actually, KCD might just get bigger... CAL, too.10:18am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

I take that back. They have the market cornered.10:18am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

is the summit in oldham county?10:19am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Doyon

Cal is whiter than white10:19am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by SaladDressing

no doyon10:19am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by abby

no @doyon10:19am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by abbie

America is predominantly white, so a 40% white population in Kentucky would be weird10:19am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Koby

Is American predominately white?10:19am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

crestwood may not have a ton of entertainment inside of it, but we have both malls plus 2 outletmalls withing 20 minutes of us10:19am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by abby

KCD is kind of already the east end private school. If the public school system fails, that skill willgreatly expand10:20am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Doyon

CAL is actually more diverse than we are10:21am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by abbie

the fact they call it a private school/catholic doesn't mean that they are any better10:21am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by lo

and so is KCD10:21am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by abbie

Catholic/private has way more money than any public school, doesnt that make them better thanus



10:21am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Doyon

you right10:21am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by JacobH.

Let's be honest, Crestwood is so shelter. Don't @ me10:22am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by SaladDressing

but it is a more sheltered enviroment10:22am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by ben

with smaller class sizes10:22am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by ben

cal is 92% white10:22am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Alex

we are 93%10:22am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by abbie

theres a wimp in here hiding behind an alias10:22am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Doyon

rt @doyon10:23am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by abby

expose yourself10:23am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by abby

man up, show ya self10:23am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Doyon

kcd is 67% white10:23am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Alex

CAL has less people than we do in their high school though so it's smaller10:23am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by abbie

I think it was hilarious what happened to the white girl, that she had to be tutored by the girl shemade fun of.10:24am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Sean

but cal is a k-12 school, so they have more people there, just less of them are highschoolers10:24am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Doyon

more people means more money10:24am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Doyon

that was funny. but is that an uncommon story?10:24am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by JacobH.

and pre-school10:24am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by abbie

why did we bring up what race people are at CAL



10:24am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by ben

does it aalways10:24am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Ryan

rich brought up CAL10:24am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by abbie

I think it's a prime example of why you shouldn't judge a book by its cover.10:24am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Kaitlyn

why though?10:24am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by JacobH.

because theres more to read10:25am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Ryan

i agree with kaitlyn, people are looking at the places people are from and their appearance but notwhat they are capable of10:25am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by madi

no because theyre coming from good schools and backrounds10:26am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Doyon

Some people just hate people for no reason. It sucks but that's how the world spins.10:26am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by SaladDressing

“It's just like when you've got some coffee that's too black, which means it's too strong. What doyou do? (1/2)10:26am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by NoahG

St.X is the definition of white.10:27am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by SaladDressing

black kids go to X10:27am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Doyon

A lot of kids who go to catholic schools aren't even religious.10:27am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Sean

so are you @SaladDressing10:27am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by abbie

(2/2)You integrate it with cream, you make it weak. But if you pour too much cream in it, youwon't even know you ever had coffee."10:28am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by NoahG

what's it from, Noah?10:28am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

except for the caffeine10:28am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Ryan

yes, 100%



10:28am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by SaladDressing

dang that metaphor tho @noah10:28am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Sean

true@sean10:28am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Ryan.H

it's a quote from Malcolm X10:28am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by NoahG

Dang!10:28am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by JacobH.

these families are so opposed to black kids coming into their lives but the whole way for this tonot be a problem is to let it happen10:29am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Evan

If kids come from rough backgrounds, do we owe them more?10:29am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

so that over time we make it the new normal10:29am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Evan

Do we try to compensate? Or is that just how the cookie crumbles?10:29am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

whose fault is it that they ended up with a rough backround10:30am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Doyon

Why would we owe them more?10:30am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by JacobH.

I don't think people would come outright and say they don't like it.10:30am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Sean

right @ Nathan10:30am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

i think they deserve everything we deserve10:30am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by abbie

the concept of equity would suggest that they may need a bigger block in order to see over thefence.10:30am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

of course theres the slavery argument. but other than that, theres no reason we should be heldaccountable for their situation10:30am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Doyon

When you make the dough, you learn the bread.10:31am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by SaladDressing

I think it would go back to why their in that rough background



10:31am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by JacobH.

@rich we don't get to choose where we come from but we can choose where we go so weshouldn't compensate them but rather help the way we are10:31am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Evan

what about people with disabilities?10:31am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

Does the same apply?10:31am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

i agree with koby its not all about race10:31am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Ty

Money = better education10:31am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by SaladDressing

actually. i take my statement back. Due to racism their parents ended up in a bad situation. If theyhad been white they would have been 1/210:32am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Doyon

money = better everything, that's how live woks10:32am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Evan

more succesful and then their kids would have been moe succesful10:32am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Doyon

great job Koby10:32am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by ben

life10:32am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Evan

If we're fortunate enough to have a good education and if we haveall these resources we aren'tusing,why should we help better someone's edu10:32am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Kaitlyn

I agree with Evan. Even if it is hard they should have the same opportunities so that they canchoose where they go/what they do.10:33am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Julia

Yes someone has a bad background,but who doesn't? Ifyouknow someone is struggling and youare able to help, why shouldn't we?10:33am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Kaitlyn

Why shouldn't we better someones education? @Kaitlyn10:33am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by JacobH.

Normandy had to pay the other school system for their students to attend. If oldham got paid tolet JCPS kids in, we could afford to have10:33am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Jessica



enough resources and we could pay better teachers10:33am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Jessica

i agree11:35am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by J

good luck11:39am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by J

Since white folks have had it so good for so long, do you think we/they should have to sacrifice?11:42am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

i think that the reason scores for blacks go up is because during integration the average scores godown. so inadvertently by comparison11:42am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Shane

scores level out11:42am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Shane

not necessarily that they have to sacrifice they need to open more opportunities forunderprivleged students11:43am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by rohan

yes they need to respect the normandy kids11:43am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Abby

It doesn't have to be about race; society is made up of individuals, not blocks of people separatedby skin color11:43am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Josh

how is education devalued in black cultures?11:43am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by rohan

We wouldn't be sacrificing anything. It'd be helping those in need out, everyone should have equaleducation.11:43am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Haley

I do not think anyone should have to sacrifice there education just help out people who may ormay not want it11:43am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Brett

so basing these decisions on race, rather than income or crime rates or something, skirts theissue11:43am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Josh

I agree with Rohan there should be a greater emphasis on the opportunities for growth11:44am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Cameron

I think that the reason the scores go up is because they have access to better teachers andfacilities11:44am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Michelle



Do you agree with Nathan? Is Education valued more in white families?11:44am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

i agree that unprivileged students should be given the opportunities to advance more often11:44am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by kaitlyn

Doesn't it seemed very inwardly focused to be worried about the effects on white kids? Shouldn'twe value the positive effects of11:44am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Anna

integration?11:44am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Anna

I agree with Josh its more about giving opportunities to lower income students, not categorizing itby race.11:44am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Chase

scores go up for everyone over time11:44am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Francis

no blacks have fallen into a subset due to the systematic economic standards that have beensubscribed to them for generations and thus cant11:44am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by rohan

get the education they want they dont devalue it11:44am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by rohan

I think it varies family to family because I ceryainly know plenty of white families that don't valueeducation11:45am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Grant

No. All parents just want what is best for their kid, nothing to do with race11:45am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Taylor

i think what macki is saying would be more of a individual thing11:45am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Brett

I agree with Macki that the circumstances determine how well a student succeeds11:45am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Lily

i think its not a race issue. i think it just happens to be people with lower socioeconomic classesthat have these issues.some are just BLK11:45am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Shane

If I'm 5 and my parents don't care about education, am I just screwed?11:45am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

I agree with Grant. I is based on the individual family standards not race11:45am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Michelle

well if you care about education then no11:45am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by J



If I'm 15 and my parents don't care about education, am I just screwed?11:45am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

@rich11:45am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by J

It*11:45am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Michelle

I mean its hard to get motivated as a child to get educated if your parents dont care11:46am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Grant

I think it is important for parents to help their kids with homework and to show them how mucheducation matters11:46am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by devyn

The issue is that primarily black schools are very poorly funded. With more money in the system,students have more opportunity to succeed.11:46am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Anna

yes @rich.11:46am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Shane

How do I learn to care about Education if no one in my life cares about education and I have badteachers?11:46am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

I think you'll have a harder time getting adjusting but overall if you try hard you can still succeed.11:46am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Cameron

The only saving grace, it seems to be, is if I luck out and have a SERIES of good teachers.11:46am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

I agree11:47am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Grant

you have to gain the drive somehow. you have to have the drive to succeed11:47am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Shane

True11:47am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Taylor

going off of what nathan said its up to, if your parents don't care it just gives you less motivation.11:47am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Abby

What if we had turned the tables in the missouri case so that the white students were in the blackstudents shoes,would we talk about it?11:47am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by rohan

yes because they don't give much insight but if teachers make up for that then it'll be helpful11:47am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by kaitlyn



i dont think its nearly as much about the teachers as it is about your peers- teachers are a loteasier to ignore than all your friends11:47am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Josh

Your education lays in your hands and the people who you surround yourself with will have amajor impact in determining your future.11:47am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Peyton

..unfortunately, good/prepared and caring teachers long to work in places where metal detectorsare installed11:48am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

alot of people dont have the drive in good schools, so i think its more about the person thanenvironment11:48am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Francis

I think that some of the kids in the "bad" schools come in with a negative connotation to theschool so they do not ever try to learn at the11:48am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Brett

if kids do not apply themselves then they won't succeed11:48am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by devyn

i agree with francis11:48am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by J

level they potentially could11:48am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Brett

i also think it's more so if you put the efforts and interest into education you need the drive towork hard whether your parents care or no11:48am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by kaitlyn

not*11:48am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by kaitlyn

I've heard the baseball analogy of kids with educated parents are already on third base. A sac flygets them home.11:48am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

its more about what opportunities the family has less about what the parents believe is right fortheir kid, I would argue11:49am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by rohan

Do you think sometimes the parent could be to hard on there to a point the kid doesn't care?11:49am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Abby

@rohan i agree not all families get the same opportunities11:49am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by kaitlyn

So this is also about socioeconomics, too.11:49am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich



There are outside factors that influence education. You must be intrinsically motivated, but youalso have to have people help you succeed.11:49am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Anna

There are some families that just can't simply afford college and that sets people back11:49am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by devyn

i think if black kids are good at sports they will get a good education,bc they will go to collegeand they will have the drive to do good11:50am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Shane

not also- its about socioeconomics on a family to family basis, this disadvantage comes primarilyfrom a lack of money- as freakonomics11:50am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Josh

Sports have been a springboard for success for many people, regardless of race.11:50am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

financial aid helps alot for college11:50am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Francis

showed, the schievement race gap disappears statistically when socioeconomics are accounted for11:50am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Josh

What if black kids are also good at drama or something else in the Arts...11:51am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

?11:51am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

@anna it's helpful to have people like that in your life that help you succeed but that doesn't makeit impossible to do so without them11:51am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by kaitlyn

Thats true rich but professional sports are dominated by non white people11:51am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Brett

I've seen people who work really hard to get scholarships for sports because that is the only waythey can go to college11:51am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by devyn

i think if you have something you truly care about you will want to work harder.11:51am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Abby

@Shane, are you making a statement or are you suggesting that this is good?11:51am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

what?11:53am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Cameron

i'm suggesting that its a way to gain success if you cant find the drive to do good in school.11:53am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Shane



If they're also good in the art field then i think that's all dependent on their work ethic and theirartwork itself not who they are11:53am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by kaitlyn

what they see is the art and it's quality most competitions keep artist anonymous to avoid biasissues11:54am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by kaitlyn

How can the environment mess with those averages?11:57am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Macki

The "right now" doesn't seem to matter as much as the "what was" and the "what will be."11:57am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

but dont you believe that students should have the opportunity to increase their ability11:57am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by rohan

The past impacts us greatly when we're discussing this.11:57am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

the average of the school doesn't matter as much as the kids having the opportunity to have abetter schooling11:58am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by kate

They need to develop new opportunities in their own communities that can engage them and givethem a great chance to get ahead11:58am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Nathan

Could bussing be compared to having to stop and wait at a bus depot every morning andafternoon?11:58am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Collin

Didn't the students have a choice regarding if they wanted to be bused?11:59am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Anna

Yes11:59am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Collin

I think kids should have the opportunity to get quality education like others kids do because thereare some who want to work hard& do care11:59am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by devyn

Nathan, there is truth in that.11:59am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Macki

How can you give them opportunities in their communities if it is a poor community?11:59am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Peyton

culture.11:59am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

publicly or privately funded, new opportunities could help them achieve new economic standing



11:59am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Nathan

culture, like i said earlier11:59am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Nathan

someone is smarter than shane??11:59am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by JIm

Is there a different culture that exists in the inner city?11:59am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

a sub-culture, perhaps.11:59am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

Of course12:00am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Collin

yes12:00am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by kaitlyn

yeah but it is a race issue at the same time because african american do fall under worsescoioeconomic standards than whites do b/c12:00am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by rohan

they have historically had a lack to education12:00am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by rohan

Growing up in an urban area will be different than it would growing up in a suburban or rural area12:00am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Collin

their culture can be a place of safety for them12:01am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Macki

urban areas have good schools too12:01am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Francis

It really depends on where you live and the situation your family is in that changes a lot for kids12:01am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by kaitlyn

The inner city has a culture that makes it hard for there to be prosperity.12:01am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Nathan

even when where they live can be dangerous they still feel apart of a group12:01am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Macki

I'd like to think of myself as an okay teacher, but I'm not sure I'd be able to make the sacrificesnecessary to work in a "rough" classroom12:01am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

I could do it, no doubt, but it would take a huge toll on my family.12:02am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

I would relate to that because that effects you and your well being as well12:02am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by kaitlyn



I want my energy to go to my kids and wife... and parents and mother in law.12:02am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

It would take a toll on you both psychologically and physically12:03am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Collin

we need to increase public school education budgets especially within low income areas12:03am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by rohan

agreed @rohan12:03am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Collin

What if private schools were outlawed.12:03am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

@collin i agree it would12:03am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by kaitlyn

?12:03am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

it takes someone willing to put in the effort for the kids who really need the help andencouragement12:03am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by kate

what can be done to change these "rough" classes?12:03am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Michelle

low income areas have a larger percent of the budget than places like here12:03am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Nathan

rough classes stem from the kids home lives. I don't know how to change a kids home life for thebetter.12:04am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Nathan

If private schools were outlawed that would change the game12:04am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Macki

integration @michelle12:04am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by JIm

If private schools were outlawed, there would be an outrage from many parents because theirchildren "wouldn't be safe anymore."12:04am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Collin

I have talked to a new Jefferson county teacher after she transferred form oldham and she washorrified by the difference in the children &12:04am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by devyn

they would all just move to other rich white kid schools12:05am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by kate

it is a race thing...



12:05am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by rohan

how 1st and 3rd graders got in fights and how she had to teach not to fight because their state ofmind is to defend12:05am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by devyn

The people that push for integration are trying for the betterment of their childs education,without taken in the effect on others12:05am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Brett

Ms. Meinecke transferred from Jefferson County and she has first hand experience. She's toldstories of how it is more rough and it is12:06am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Collin

harder to teach the kids there12:06am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Collin

If no one removed their kids from what they deem as "bad" what do you think it would be like?12:06am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

Random thought: do inner city schools have places like "buckner alternative"12:06am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Macki

no they are buckner alternative12:06am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Nathan

What is Buckner Alternative like?12:06am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

prison12:07am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by rohan

I've talked to such teachers that transferred as well and I think that it's all because the goodteachers are fleeing the bad schools and12:07am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by kaitlyn

I'd say probably not, most of them are comparable to Buckner alternative though12:07am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Collin

You can't blame parents for wanting the best for their child, it is their instinct and that isn't goingto change12:07am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by devyn

It's near the prison, too.12:07am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

what do you think about charter schools?12:07am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Nathan

it's really relaxed. They don't really care what you do.12:07am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Haley

could charter schools solve the problem?



12:07am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Nathan

being left with teachers that don't care enough to stop a lot of fights or lack or work being put inbecause both teachers and students dont12:07am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by kaitlyn

care12:07am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by kaitlyn

We talk about better teachers but in many cases its more of how a student learn determines whata good teacher is12:09am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Brett

;12:43am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by macki

Why does a white family choose to stay?12:44am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

The starter says that the scores for the African-American students rose. But what happened to theexisting scores of the whites?12:44am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Karthikeyan

they can't afford to leave probably12:44am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Josh

they are offered better opportunities12:44am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Cameron

Or, DO white families CHOOSE to stay.12:44am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

It depends the situation12:44am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Collin

Does $ have anything to do with it?12:44am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

allowing their family to experience healthy diversity maybe12:44am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by macki

Money is literally the entire premise of the issue @rich12:45am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Josh

i think a group of people wouldnt want to sepnd the money to find a new home. and sell their oldone12:45am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by J

Money almost always has something to do with it @rich12:45am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Chase

wouldnt the white students maintain their levels accomplishment? I find it hard to believe theywould perform worse



12:45am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by rohan

I agree rohan12:45am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by macki

so wait, this is about greed and power again?12:45am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

It would only affect them if it affects their teachers @rohan12:45am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Collin

so yes12:45am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Collin

I think power but not really greed12:46am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Cameron

Everything is about greed and power12:46am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Karthikeyan

Power is a resultant of success12:46am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Collin

many students here rely on asking teachers questions in one to one questioning. if we could addmore teachers and room, it would work12:46am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by J

what about those 3 years of students who would be part of "the sacrifice?"12:47am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Josh

do you guys think that white or black culture has more power in society today?12:47am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by rohan

I think that j definitely has a point that one on one conversations are very effective for students.12:47am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Chase

"we can create something stronger than just now. we need to think about the future." DS12:47am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

i dont think its a one or anotehr culture, its america, its a melting pot12:47am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by J

Black culture affects white culture12:47am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Cameron

that's a controversial question; it depends who you ask12:47am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Collin

white culture has more power politically and representatively but black culture has more powersocially12:47am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Nathan

I agree with J, there is no right answer12:47am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by rohan



I'd say they're starting to become more equal just because of how society is developing andrecognizing equality12:48am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Collin

i dont necessarily think that black culture has more social power though12:48am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by rohan

its like the food we eat, we eat chinese food, there is cuban food, american food. foods from everywhere12:48am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by J

Whites still have the "upper hand" in many countries though12:48am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Collin

is black or white culture feared?12:49am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by macki

it does. Look at the rise of hip hop and the culture related to that. That came from africanamericans... not whites12:49am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Nathan

What constitutes a dangerous school?12:49am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

in some cases yes, each is feared by the other @macki but I don't think its universal either way12:49am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Josh

arent most countries autonomus now? so how do white people haev an upper hand12:49am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by J

I agree with Nathan, Black culture I think has a longer impact on society.12:49am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Cameron

A dangerous, low-income area12:49am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Collin

right but who popularized those trends nathan? white people did...12:49am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by rohan

Drugs, weapons, violence @rich12:49am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Chase

through black public figures12:50am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Nathan

think about rock music started in black communities and only became popular b/c of white iconslike Elvis12:50am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by rohan

how they are handled is key12:50am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by macki

I agree that security engagement definitely constitutes how "safe" the school is



12:50am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Collin

kendrick lamar, kanye,12:50am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Nathan

buddy holly was a muscician who started rock and roll as well.12:50am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by J

travis, migos, etc12:50am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Nathan

you are just naming rappers thats not proving anything haha12:51am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by rohan

@rohan black artists helped develop sounds of different musical styles besides rock12:51am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Cameron

yeah i totally agree cameron12:51am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by rohan

hip hop culture was created through black public figures and now it is popular with whites12:51am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Nathan

Jazz is rooted from Blues music, originating in the South from the slaves12:52am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Collin

Music isn't the only aspect of culture, i would guess theres a lot of white directors...12:52am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Josh

Black culture brought up multiple types of music12:52am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Collin

yeah but i agree with Josh, white culture still holds prevelant in mainstream media, music is justone aspect12:53am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by rohan

Black fashion designers are also becoming more well respected and recognized in White culture12:53am, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Cameron

Would kids who go to private schools think that SOHS is a "bad" school?1:13pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

Most likely, because it's public1:13pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Meredith

not necessarily bad but that they are better than us1:14pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Justin

they don't think it's a bad education but most think that theirs is better1:14pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by ashley

ithink some do rich they look down on us becuase maybe some kids cant afford going to betterschool.1:14pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by arich



Yes because some kids, not all of them, are what you could call "privileged" and they would lookdown on us.1:14pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by MadelynL

no not at all in fact they would probably like it more because it has more diversity1:14pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Bdon

I would think so, they'd be exposed to things that aren't as nice as what they have1:14pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Zaubi

maybe, because with students basically paying for their education, their mindset would be to thinkthat public schools aren't as good.1:14pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Mile

Are people at SOHS overtly racist?1:15pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

There are for sure some individuals here at SOHS that are...1:15pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by MadelynL

depends on the person, don't think you can generalize based on a school as a whole1:15pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Meredith

unfortunately some are...1:15pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by ashley

rich i think there are some not a few but alot kids1:15pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by arich

no1:15pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Bdon

There are kids who react differently to one race than the other1:16pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Lauren

@Lauren, I wouldn't call that overt racism1:16pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

Still racism, though.1:16pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

no, sure there are racist people here but they have enough sense to keep it private1:17pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Zaubi

There is, I've heard racist comments but not in everyone and unfortunately you will see thateverywhere1:17pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Meredith

not just south1:17pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Meredith

I believe that there are racist kids in this school and it's mostly because of ignorance1:17pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Mile



I think that most of the racism we see is not overt racism at all. It exists, but not publicly in aschool environment w/out big punishments1:18pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Noah

Do you think it's worse (racism) in the parent community?1:18pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

Definitely.1:18pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Lauren

most def in the parent community becuase they can influence the kids they have1:18pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by arich

type Y if you have a relative that's racist1:18pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

Y1:18pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

Yes, because they were raised in a different time period where it was considered acceptable buttimes have changed and it is so not okay1:18pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by MadelynL

y1:18pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by arich

Y1:18pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by ashley

Y1:18pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Lauren

y1:18pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Maggie

y1:19pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by haley

Yes for sure, many parents grew up during the civil rights movement and there was a lot ofdefacto segregation1:19pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Meredith

Y1:19pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by bailey

i dont lmao1:19pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Bdon

Y1:19pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Braydan

y1:19pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Alana



Y1:19pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Meredith

Yes1:19pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Zaubi

y1:19pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Noah

Y1:19pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Mile

My step-uncle's side of his family are extremely racist. But that didn't stop my step-uncle frommeeting my dad and I who are black.1:20pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Braydan

Therefore, I believe that even if parents are racist, it is up to the child to make his/her owndecision.1:21pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Braydan

i think i have relatives who are prejudice but not necessarily racist1:21pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Justin

Would you agree that kids adopt the ways and the culture of their parents more often than not.1:21pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

but unfortunately many kids from a small age hear racist things from their parents and grow upwith that mentality1:21pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Meredith

My step-uncle chose to neglect his racism side of his family and was open to welcoming my fatherand I when we first met them.1:21pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Braydan

I believe that we do adopt the ways of our parents but still develop a unique personality based offof those ways1:22pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by MadelynL

I agree with Braydan, however our parents have a big influence on most of us and although it isour choice our parents views/habits1:22pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by bailey

I am almost positive that kids adopt most of their opinions from one or both of their parents1:22pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Lauren

I agree that most kids adopt the culture of their parents1:22pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by madeline

sometimes rub off on the child1:22pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by bailey



it depends on if the kid in independent or not because my parents and i agree on nothing most ofthe time1:22pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Bdon

Kids either learn to be like their parents or to be different regardless they learn something.1:22pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by ashley

i can agree with that Madelyn1:22pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Zaubi

I think it's up to us to make an informed decision when we grow up as to how we will treat people,even if it's not right1:22pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Meredith

I think that the way you are raised has a huge impact on you. Now days there are more influencesthen just your parents on you, teachers as1:22pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Talon

thye do but also you see kids who just think that the parents are totally wrong1:22pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by arich

I think our behavior is heavily influenced on how we are raised.1:23pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Lauren

Either way, I think parents have less influence now than ever before because we have mediainforming us constantly, so we can make decisions1:23pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Noah

for ourselves1:23pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Noah

its especially prevalent in issues such as politics. When you talk to most kids, its almost as iftheyre reciting their parents exact words1:23pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by madeline

No doubt parents have an significant influence on our lives. But as we come of age, we begin tomake the moral/immoral choices for ourselves1:23pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Braydan

as well have a huge effect on kids, they are the ones that can shape your minds, teach you, theyare meant to effect the way you thinks1:23pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Talon

instead of thinking for themselves1:23pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by madeline

People aren't always brought up in an environment where they can make their own decisions fortheir values1:23pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Lauren

agree with Noah1:23pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Mile



the saying "it takes a village to raise a child" is true now more than ever1:23pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Zaubi

Are kids who reject their parents' philosophies the rule or the exception?1:23pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

I think they are still the exception1:24pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Noah

depends on the community1:24pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Meredith

I dont think we have a drug problem.1:27pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by haley

i agree1:27pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Tristan

there are obviously kids in this school who do drugs, but that's evident in every school and thatdoesn't mean that it's a problem.1:27pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Jordan

If you think oldham county has a drug problem then you are very sheltered1:27pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Alexander

what would be defined as a drug problem?1:27pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

i actually think it has gotten better over the years1:27pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by MadelynL

what would have to happen for there to be one?1:27pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

i also agree with alex1:27pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by MadelynL

Elaborate, Alex1:28pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

Its terrible to say but deaths always bring awareness to an issue1:28pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by MadelynL

kids repeatedly being hospialized, addicted or even dying from drugs. It being present in themajority1:28pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Meredith

a very small percentage of the students at this school use drugs in comparison to kids at anyother school in kentucky1:28pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Jordan

They make it such a big deal when kids are caught with vapes and juuls when its legal to have itwhen someone is 18



1:28pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by haley

probably the full acceptance of using drugs through out a majority of the school1:28pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Tristan

I once walked in on a vape party in the bathroom...1:28pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Henry

how was it1:28pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by haley

ayyyyyeeee1:28pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Bdon

vaporizers help with sinusitus1:29pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

it smelled oddly fruity1:29pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Henry

clouds1:29pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by haley

Parent influencing their kids can relate back to dangers of a single story, if you don't knowanyhting else you are forced into believing it1:29pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Talon

oh, vape. okay.1:29pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

make you buzz like a bee1:29pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Bdon

It depends on your definition of drug.1:29pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Trinity

i don't think parents have that huge of an impact on their childs beliefs1:30pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Justin

A lot of things are drugs but i think society determines what a drug is1:30pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by MadelynL

my dad compares vape to heroine1:30pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Bdon

Does that make sense?1:30pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by MadelynL

kids do what they want1:30pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by haley

drug - a medicine or other substance which has a physiological effect when ingested or otherwiseintroduced into the body.1:30pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Henry



@trinity true the government vs each person vs schools all see them differently1:30pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Meredith

Thanks, Henry Webster1:30pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

i agree with madelyn, if it's common for people to have a vape or something like that, it's notreally considered a drug1:30pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Jordan

so anything thing can be a drug really1:30pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Tristan

That's me1:30pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Henry

Glue1:30pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by haley

sugar is a drug1:30pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Meredith

and caffine1:31pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Henry

But many "drugs" are life saving medicines and then there are drugs like heroin1:31pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by MadelynL

stop it, Meredith. just stop it.1:31pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

A vape would not fall under that definition1:31pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Alexander

yea i was in a huge debate over the summer about weed compared to alcohol and it was veryinteresting any thought??1:31pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Bdon

not kidding1:31pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Meredith

starbucks is a white girl drug1:31pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by haley

sugar is a drug...1:31pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by MadelynL

oh crap, is that racist1:31pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by haley

most addicting drug there is1:31pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Meredith

Well this school has no sugar or salt so



1:31pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Zach

@Meredith, you peddle drugs, then...1:31pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

im offended haley1:31pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by MadelynL

maybe but it's legal soooo1:31pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Meredith

a lot of kids i feel like in oldham county aren't doing serious drugs. More so weed, alcohol andnicotine I feel like are the most common1:31pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Trinity

so id marajuana1:31pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Tristan

is1:32pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Tristan

I agree, Trinity1:32pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by haley

Look at how many legal drugs kill people and how many of them are government regulated1:32pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by MadelynL

Haley, you're being sexist.1:32pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

I think the drug problem is more about how the drug is abused.1:32pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Braydan

im just saying weed should not be illegal1:32pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Bdon

I can say that coffee is a drug based on how people react with it vs when they drink it. You canliterally get addicted and get headaches1:32pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Meredith

but people say that marijuana is a getaway drug1:32pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by haley

from not having it1:32pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Meredith

leading to harder drugs1:32pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by haley

so brayed we have a substance abuse problem not a drug problem?1:32pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by arich

Drugs are a problem if you are using them as a coping method1:32pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Trinity



@Haley, gateway, not getaway1:33pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

ooops1:33pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by haley

I agree with Justin. Kids today more than ever are making up their own ideas not just acceptingtheir parents ideas.1:33pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by sam

For example, caffeine is used to wake up in the morning. But smoking weed does nothing buthinder yourself and others around you.1:33pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Braydan

yes getaway on a nice vacation1:33pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by MadelynL

Drugs are a problem for any reason besides medicinal1:33pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Alexander

but look at all the benefits, economically, its brought to the states who have legalized it1:33pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Bdon

Im not from here you racist people1:33pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by haley

GETAWAY1:33pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by haley

i feel like we underestimate peoples ability of self control1:33pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Tristan

I agree @alexander1:33pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Trinity

Yuh what tristan said1:33pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by MadelynL

I agree with tristan1:34pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Jordan

I agree with Tristan as well1:34pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Braydan

why are cigs legal then? people are addicted strongly and it kills yet we have it1:34pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Meredith

i feel like we dont pay attention to this topic until we see someone pass away from abusing drugswe dont care until it affects us1:34pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by arich

Drew is right. Lots of broken homes.1:34pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich



And alcohol has more deaths than weed does1:34pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by MadelynL

besides the whole jamestown argument1:34pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Meredith

Thats true @madelyn1:34pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by haley

I feel like self-control is a tricky word to use.1:34pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Trinity

Because fighting Big Tobacco is impossible1:34pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Henry

cigs dont kill near as much as alcohol1:34pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Bdon

How do you support people like Drew talks about.1:35pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

?1:35pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

@tristan There are 24 million drug addicts in the US alone...1:35pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Noah

cancer?1:35pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Meredith

But both are legal @bdon1:35pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by MadelynL

why is it tricky trinity1:35pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Tristan

we make lots of money off of cigarettes too, so why not legalize weed1:35pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Jordan

How do we reach out the poorest amongst us?1:35pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

How do we raise them up?1:35pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

We could make more money to go into the economy and maybe help people in poverty1:36pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by MadelynL

Desperation and survival.1:36pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

if there was an easy answer for that i think it would have been implemented by now1:36pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Justin

Make more money by selling legalized weed



1:36pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by MadelynL

Colorado could be rich if the government accepted their illegal money1:36pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Meredith

Exactly1:36pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by MadelynL

the economy would go way up1:37pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Meredith

Federally illegal but on a state level its legal1:37pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by MadelynL

does the black community live up to the stereotypes?1:37pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Bdon

Lots of times we give up when we don't know how to do something. Is that what's happened withus?1:37pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

We like immediate results1:37pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Henry

Do we not know how to reach out so we just don't?1:37pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

When people are trying to survive they are more likely to do things they normally wouldn't.1:37pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by sam

but the federal has power over states on that so they have no bank for money and have a giantsafe full of cash bc they have nowhere to put1:37pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Meredith

in the podcast, it talked about how motivation was much lower in poorer schools because kids aresurrounded by people who find it tough to1:37pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Jordan

We know the negative effects of drugs, any drug. Self-control I feel like is having enough controlto know the negative effects & avoid them1:37pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Trinity

in the podcast, they talk about a system that is proven to work, but they dont use it because itstoo hard1:38pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Henry

That's a controversial one @bdon1:38pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Alexander

Yes, I agree that the economy will prosper with the selling of legalized weed. But for how long?1:38pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Braydan



be successful or don't try, but with busing, they're surrounded by people who may try harder andthat motivates them more1:38pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Jordan

it would replace tobacco in time so it would help more than tobacco1:38pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Meredith

In the long run, the supply will increase and demand will decrease. It will bring psycological harm.1:38pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Braydan

Or the demand will increase as more people see it as an alternative.1:39pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Zach

I've been seeing a theme of why are some drugs legal while others aren't.1:40pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Talon

I hear about a lot of white stereoypes1:40pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Henry

cant eat spicy food1:40pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Henry

cant jump1:40pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Henry

all nuclear families1:40pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Henry

I can't do either of those things1:41pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Trinity

"Asian people eat dogs and cats"1:41pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by haley

... well do they?1:41pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Henry

shhhh1:41pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

There's stereotypes for everyone, why are some more racist than others?1:41pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Alexander

sugar is a drug, but there aren't negative health benefits from using sugar. drugs like marijuanaincreses risks of disiese1:41pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Talon

What disease1:41pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Zach

ever heard of dibetes1:41pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Tristan

stereotypes do play a role, don't they, though.



1:42pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

Resentment towards a race may bring out more offensive stereotypes1:42pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Lauren

they are hard to shake...1:42pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

too much sugar intake can lead to cavities, obesity, depression, hyperactivity, anxiety.1:42pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Trinity

I've noticed stereotypes for everyone. People just make a bigger deal out of certain ones thanothers.1:42pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Henry

true1:42pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by haley

ok little miss health nut1:42pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Zaubi

right how can u say there are no health risks1:42pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Tristan

That's why you only usually hear about certain ones1:43pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Henry

I'm just saying!!1:43pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Trinity

alcohol kills1:43pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Tristan

Scare tactics almost never work1:43pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Henry

But what if there was an individual who defied the stereotypes of a race? Would they begin fadingaway?1:43pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Braydan

everything kills1:44pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by ashley

that sounds like an argument for exposure to diverse things.1:44pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

i agree with ashley1:44pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by madeline

because once one of them is disproven, they all lose their value1:44pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Henry

If we have too much of anything, it kills.1:44pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by haley



know your limit boi1:44pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by haley

people kill guns dont1:44pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Tristan

true1:44pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by haley

facts @tristan1:44pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Zaubi

that's called having good self-control1:45pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Trinity

or too little of something1:45pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by madeline

So, is the woman on podcast out of line? Is she irrational?1:45pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

vegetables dont kill1:45pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Noah

which girl1:45pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Tristan

it might1:45pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by haley

@Noah, if you sharpen them, they do.1:45pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

what if you choke on a vegetable1:45pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by madeline

Which woman1:45pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Trinity

Then its no longer a vegetable, its a weapon1:45pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Noah

In terms of sheltering children, my oldest brother was the most sheltered of us and he turned outthe worst by far with drugs and alcohol1:45pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Henry

Eating vegetables infected with mold, yeast or bacteria can result in serious illness or even death.1:45pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by haley

""1:46pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by haley

@Trinity The woman who says "I want metal detectors..."1:46pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich



RICH SHE'S JUST CRAZY1:46pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Trinity

I feel her story may be exaggerated, but you can never know for sure @rich1:46pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Alexander

Thanks Haley WebMD1:46pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

Veggie-Detectors1:46pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Henry

thinking about things in a standard way, that is disregard choking etc., you can be killed bydrinking ordinary water1:46pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Talon

agreed Trinity1:46pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by sam

I think the woman has some very rational points but this concept has the potential to go very farin two directions: either it will work1:46pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by madeline

livestrong, actually.1:46pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by haley

Vegetables account for 46% of foodborne illness1:46pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Zach

she was out of line to assume what she heard and hasnt even experinced1:46pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Tristan

very well, it or will mess up a developed school system1:46pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by madeline

That woman was clearly feeling like she was saying what everyone else was thinking, the problemwas she wasn't1:46pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Noah

@Trinity Is she "crazy" or in mama bear mode1:46pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich


I think that kids who have parents that keep them on a very tight leash tend to rebel more1:46pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Jordan

crazy1:47pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Tristan

my parents always tried sheltering me and my brother, and we ended up not quite the best of kids1:47pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Zaubi



for sure Jordan1:47pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Henry

whats the difference? @rich1:47pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by ashley

Mental Illness vs Mama Bear...1:47pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

Because people tend to do the opposite of what someone else want them to do1:47pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by haley

I was the least sheltered by a long shot of any of my siblings and I've been in the least trouble1:47pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Henry

mental blindness and ignorance1:48pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Tristan

@ Henry that's because you're sneaky and smart1:48pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

;)1:48pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Henry

Gen Ed classes improve all areas of thinking, even if you forget the content1:48pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Noah

oh you meant literally crazy... that's a good question1:48pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by ashley

dont call my mom...1:48pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Henry

when you ask your parents why you can't do something and they say "because i said so" yourcuriosity takes over and you try doing it anyway1:48pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Zaubi

You can in a "mama bear mode" and still be respectful and understanding to the point wherethese transfer kids are coming from @rich1:48pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Trinity

I agree, I had a friend once who was VERY sheltered and she got HEAVILY involved in drugs1:49pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by madeline

you can be in a *1:49pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Trinity

I feel like kids with strict parents are sneakier than kids who get to do what they want1:49pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by haley

Eh1:49pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Zach



@haley ya because sheltered kids dont wanna be caught while other kids have nothing to worryabout1:49pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Zaubi

Where are the poorer kids' "Mama Bears" in this meeting?1:49pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Noah

What's more important; political economic knowledge or political social knowlege1:49pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Alexander

My mom is just really relaxed so I don;t have the desire to act out1:49pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by madeline

Exactly1:49pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Henry

So how much worse could the drug problem get if they let inner city kids into the Oldham CoSchools?1:49pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

@alexander economic1:50pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Zaubi

i agree madeline1:50pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by ashley

I agree madeline1:50pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Jordan

I disagree with Haley because strict parents would make kids more disciplined and have moreself-control.1:50pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Braydan

eh1:50pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by haley

Assuming the kids are perfect little angels1:50pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Henry

which they never are1:50pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Henry

The OCS administration is in a better situation to control drug use than say, JCPS officials are1:50pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Noah

I think it would significantly increase/spread the drug issue. A lot of kids here would think it's"cool" to do drugs if inner city kids bro1:50pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by madeline

ught them around1:50pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by madeline

"nobody's perfect" - Hannah Montana



1:51pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by ashley

@rich it wont necessarily get worse but people couldn't turn a blind eye to it anymore1:51pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Zaubi

you get the BEEEEESSSST1:51pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Henry

I think the majority of the time the source of any "drug problem" is poverty1:51pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Trinity

Man, I would like to believe that its spread evenly, but the drug problem is undoubtedly worse ininner cities1:51pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Alexander

earth is flat1:52pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Tristan

I think it's to escape a problem or recreation1:52pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Zach

The earth is a saltine cracker...1:52pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

is marijuana a vegetable1:52pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Lauren

it's a plant1:52pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Trinity

I heard it was a legume1:52pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

and it has seeds which makes it a fruit?1:53pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Zach

Is every cracker then a pocket universe?1:53pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Henry

Shalom2:03pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Buder

It benefits kids from Eastern but it harms us.2:08pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Hayden

Noah's scenario isn't exactly the same.2:08pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

It's more similar to the scenario I put on the blog.2:09pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

In the podcast scenario (which was real) moved kids from "bad" schools to "good" schools.2:10pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

I completely agree buda



2:10pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Brice

the ACT should be banned it could ruin a very intelligent kids life2:10pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by hunter

Has true integration ever actually happened?2:10pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

people change do to the situation they are in2:10pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Tanner

ACT should not be as big of a deal as colleges make it, there are a lot of people who are bad testtakers2:10pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by brad

some people have more access and advantages to ACT classes that some kids don't get2:11pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Anna

Are we intentionally or unintentionally segregated?2:11pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

Why do white folks like Oldham County so much?2:11pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

because its has a good school system2:12pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Tanner

I think it's intentional.We're still living through the effects of red lining.2:12pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by MeganG

I feel that people have this idea that our race affects our learning. Predominantly black schoolsstruggle, but that's not a result of their2:12pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Hayden

Good education, safe environment. Doesn't have to be about race.2:12pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Brice

unintentionally segregated. it's not like some of us are saying that we don't what to go to schoolwith people of other races2:13pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Anna

color, it's because of their upbringing and the rough areas that they're exploited to.2:13pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Hayden

There was a time when there was only one Oldham County High School.2:13pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

buda is getting heated2:13pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Tanner

I think white people like oldham because everyone is very similar2:13pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by sam

i agree with megan



2:13pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Tanner

lmao im not heated just passionate2:13pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Buder

What if a kid never learns a good work ethic? Is it their fault?2:13pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

I agree with sam2:13pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by annie

Unintentionally segregated because we don't choose to go to school with other races it justhappens.2:13pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Maddie

basic white girls love it2:13pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by hunter

there are good and bad areas in Oldham County though, so not everyone is similar.2:14pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Anna

the schools make grades a huge deal and tell us thats the only thing that matters. thats why weare stressed about getting good grades2:14pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by tarah

No, it's just a circumstance of their situation.2:14pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Hayden

Most people's parents moved to Oldham Co to get into the school system, right?2:14pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

i agree with tarah2:14pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Tanner

i agree with Noah, if you are forced to go to school with people you don't like, there is a lot lessmotivation to do your work2:15pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by brad

That's why my parents moved to Oldham County2:15pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Anna

For the schools2:15pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Anna

thats what my parents did.2:15pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by hunter

Yes, its why my parents moved as well2:15pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Maddie

my parents moved here because of the schools2:15pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Tanner

We care more about getting an A than learning the material and actually getting educated.



2:15pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Brice

Me as well (about moving to the school system)2:15pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by MeganG

same here2:16pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by annie

It's safe to say that most of our parents moved here because it is a safe area with good schools.2:16pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Hayden

I agree with Hayden2:16pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Anna

Why are Oldham Co Schools so good? Is that because of something in the water?2:16pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

Where does the family fit into this?2:16pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

its the resources2:17pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Tanner

Because we are raised in a nice area, where the kids have good values and understand theimportance of education. So teachers find this to2:17pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Hayden

At what point is it a kid's fault? Is it a kindergartner's fault?2:17pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

at six, can you be called lazy?2:18pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

this is crazy2:18pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Tanner

be a prime destination to teach. Since good teachers come here, we create a good place forstudents to succeed.2:18pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Hayden

I agree with Calla2:21pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by MeganG

While all three OC high schools rank # 22, 7, & 5 on a ranking of 2202:21pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Buder

I disagree with Brady. I have had teachers be extremely difficult and have been unwilling to giveme extra help2:22pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Anna

there are bad teachers yes but its all up to the student to really want those grades and that credit2:22pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by megan



JCPS high schools # 220, 219, 218, 217, 215, 210, 201, 197, 194, 188, 187, 158, 147. But no, itsthe students, facts aren't real2:22pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Buder

never said facts arent real2:22pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by megan

huh2:22pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by savannah

um2:22pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Buder

I agree with Tanner I have a brother in 6th grade and he's expected to do his work and if hedoesn't he fails.2:23pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Maddie

Can a teacher really teach a class filled with 30 kids who don't respect him/her or the institutionof school?2:23pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

if its a good teachr she/he will do their best to change their opinion on school.2:24pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by hunter

no2:24pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by savannah

just because they have poor test scores doesn't mean it's a bad school. violence and more toughenvironments are what i think make it a bad2:24pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by megan

school2:24pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by megan

Poor Test Scores do mean its a bad school!!2:24pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Buder

thats how theyt are ranked2:24pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Buder

Teachers cant teach kids who dont want to learn or have a good education2:24pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Heather

Should be start thinking outside the box and maybe blow up the traditional model of one teacherfor 30 students...2:24pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

*we not be2:25pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

maybe the kids at JCPS don't want to work because they know there's no future for them2:25pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by MeganG



would you rather accept a kid into college with a 12 on the act, and a 2.3 gpa or a kid with a 25and a 3.82:25pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Buder

FACTS2:25pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Buder

jcps doesn't have opportunities like oc schools2:25pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by MeganG

but there are good kids at "bad" schools. can't judge a kid by the situation they were put into.2:25pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Anna

I think that the schools that struggle should try something different.2:25pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Hayden

so if you had an ACT score of like a 15 but you were actually an intelligent person, do u think it'sokay for someone to say ur a bad person2:26pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by megan

I think that Oldham Co. Schools can continue to have 30 kids in a class with no problem.2:26pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Hayden

You would rather take the better student @buder but there are factors that case them to testporley2:26pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Heather

a bad person and a bad student are very different things megan2:26pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Buder

school is about education not violence. i believe test scores do reflect how bad or good it is.2:26pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by hunter

With "at risk" kids here at South, they have what's called "collabs" where two teachers worktogether.2:26pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

having a 15 on the ACT doesn't make you a bad person2:26pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Anna

and having a 36 doesn't make you a good person2:27pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Anna

colleges do not look at the person and go awe they are nice, they look at the academicacheivments, that it. You are a piece of paper and #2:27pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Buder

I agree with Anna2:27pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by sam

i completely agree anna2:27pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by megan



yes buda2:27pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by hunter

we are not talking about the person, we are talking about how theya re as a student2:27pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Buder

they are*2:28pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Buder

I agree with you anna, its not just about the grades and test scores anymore2:28pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Heather

Should we begin to look at kids who come from rough environments--who are, realisticallyprobably dealing with PTSD--differently.2:28pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

so if you heard about someone with poor grades and scores would you go ahead and assume thatthey are dumb?2:28pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by megan

it is though! go apply to a college with a 15, you will not be accepted, apply with a 36, you areaccepted with a full ride2:28pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Buder

How do kids come to NOT respect adults?2:28pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

Yes, kids like these don't see the value in education because of their upbringing. They need to betaught differently.2:29pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Hayden

parenting2:29pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by hunter

never said anyone was dumb.... putting words in my mouth? Don't assume haha2:29pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Buder

sass2:29pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by savannah

yes, sass2:29pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Buder

What if every adult in your life let you down?2:30pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

there are other alternatives for kids with a 15 on the ACT. doesn't mean that they are set up forfailure because of their background2:30pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Anna

no, they have learning programs to help them. But that is a very slim percentage2:31pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Buder



Kids fail to respect adults because they have had bad experiences with guardians and they have anegative image of adults.2:31pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Hayden

You learn that you have to do things for yourself you have to grow up sooner or later why notgrow up now?2:31pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Heather

kids fail to respect adults because they honestly believe they know better than them2:31pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by savannah

to get into JCTC you can take an alternate test to get in2:31pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Anna

well, a lot of people have higher aspirations than JCTC2:31pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Buder

I agree with Hayden, bad experiences could lead to not being able to respect adults2:31pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by annie

so is JCTC a bad school? @buda2:32pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by megan

ok but if you grow up in a bad area and no one inyour family has been through college and no oneis their to help you then JCTC is a good2:32pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Anna

way to start2:32pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Anna

not always, but if you are going for a job interview and you have a degree from a accrediteduniversity and a non gen-ed degree, ----2:33pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Buder

they will choose the person witht he actual degree every time2:33pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Buder

JCTC is also a cheaper alternative for the kids who don't have anyone their helping them2:33pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Anna

yes it is, most kids go to JCTC then move on to a university after2:33pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Buder

so you don't get an actual degree or education from JCTC?2:34pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by megan

JCTC is a good stepping stone to a actual university2:34pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Buder

is JCTC not a college buda?2:34pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by savannah



you mostly take GENERAL EDUCATION classes, it is not tailored to like a marketing, or education,or mathmatical degree.2:34pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Buder

ok but graduating from JCTC is better than not going anywhere at all2:35pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Anna

sometimes it comes down to money. we can't all afford ivy league schools like others2:36pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by megan

correct2:36pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Buder

true, only about 6% can even get into Ivy league schools anyway2:36pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Buder

i agree with anna2:37pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Tanner

Community colleges make a ton of sense.2:37pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

they offer 2 year degrees, not the ones you are thinking of @anna2:37pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Buder

There is a stigma attached to them, though.2:37pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

exactly. doesn't mean you've had a poor education if you go to JCTC, sometimes you can't affordsomething as simple as UK2:37pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by megan

There are always gonna be opportunities for a student in our country who wants to get aneducation and be successful.2:37pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Hayden

The show "Community" didn't help with that stigma, either, though it was real good.2:37pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

a 2 year degree is better then a high school degree2:38pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Tanner

Anytime you go to get additional education is always better than just a high school diploma.2:39pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Heather

It is made out to be a place for people who aren't qualified enough to go to a typical college.People are accused of being dumb if they2:39pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Hayden

choose that route.2:39pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Hayden

I agree with Megan. Stereotypes kill its reputation for most people.



2:40pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Hayden

Going to jctc is a better opition to get you basic classes done alot cheaper, than going to auniversity or state school and not com college2:40pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Heather

They do not offer the same programs, the rigorous class loads, advanced classes, degrees, theone thing they do provide is a good place to -2:41pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Buder

start gen eds2:41pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Buder

it doesn't just offer gen eds2:42pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by annie

trade school - 100,000 + a year2:42pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Buder

JCTC - 2 year degrees2:42pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Buder

com colleges are very cheap compared to state schools plus the fact the you can get actualdegrees as well2:42pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by calla

go to JCTC- then a university is great2:42pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Buder

what if some people only want the degree, or if they only need that 2 year program2:42pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by calla

then congrats2:42pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Buder

go to jcts2:43pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Buder

sass2:43pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by savannah

you do you girl2:43pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Buder

chill2:43pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by calla

you can get a two year degree from JCTC and go straight into nursing2:43pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by annie

there is no shame in a 2 year degree2:43pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Tanner

but not everyone wants to be a nurse



2:43pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Buder

Who says the have to be one @buda2:43pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Maddie

both of my parents only have their two year degrees2:43pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by megan

didn't say everyone did2:44pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by annie

they2:44pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Maddie

you trust your life with nurses and some of them have probably gone to com colleges2:44pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Tanner

neither of them are nurses2:44pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by megan

did not say a 2 year degree means you are anything less, the higher you go up with degrees andschooling, the more money you make2:44pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Buder

there are outliers of course though2:44pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Buder

maybe you only need enough money to support your family2:44pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by savannah

personal opinion2:45pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Buder

i work a full time job to support my family and have a good education and good grades, we makeplunty of money so we can live and survive.2:46pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Heather

I agree with Savannah not everyone wants to make a lot of money, maybe it could be enough toget by and maybe a little extraiswhattheywant2:46pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Maddie

We get free primary and secondary education NO MATTER who we are in this country2:47pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by calla

But is it equal...2:47pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

Agreed Calla.2:47pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Maddie


we can't all be wealthy geniuses like others here



2:47pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by megan

Is it, more importantly, equitable2:47pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

free college am i right #feel the bern2:47pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Buder

funding isn't being distributed evenly2:47pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by MeganG

i think any type of education is a good education2:48pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by megan

no its not equal, but at the same time other countries dpnt get any education2:48pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by calla

nothing will ever be equitable @rich2:48pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Buder

i agree with megan any education is good2:48pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Tanner

or its a crazy amount of money, that they cant afford2:48pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by calla

Its not equal because everyone is going through different things personaly not adding on top ofeducation being unequal as well.2:48pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Heather

nothing is equitable?2:48pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

Is it privilege talking, though? Does everyone have the ability to "shop" for their public schools?3:01pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

Shouldn't all the public schools be the same, though?3:01pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

no. some people have to live where they can afford and often times there is nothing cheap enoughin oldham county3:02pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Shelby

Not everyone has that privilege, but if you do, you might as well use that to find a good school3:02pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Brennan

yes it is privilege. a lot of people can't afford to go anywhere else3:02pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by rachel

some people dont have the ability to pay more money to live in a district with nice schools, so it isprivileged to do that.3:02pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Kate

Financially, frugal people i don't think people would do well in Oldham county.



3:02pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Tatie

if everyone uses it, schools don't improve3:02pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by rachel

Well,sorta it seems like that. When talking about the podcast most of the kids were excited to getway and have a chance to not be in the...3:03pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Hannah

stereotype they were given by the the parents while at the counsel meeting!3:03pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Hannah

Shouldn't that be the case in whichever school they go to--the extra school services?3:04pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

people who are more strict with their money would do just fine i think, but they just wouldn't havethe unnecessary things most people have3:04pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by sav

What's unnecessary3:04pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by ayn

Why can't you have mixed ability classrooms?3:05pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

You're going to spend parts of your life waiting on other people. It's part of life. Just becauseyou're on track or ahead doesn't mean3:05pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by kali

Extra school services is valuable for everyone not just for the kids who are not doing so great.3:05pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Hannah

others have to stay behind to keep you comfortable.3:05pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by kali

What if English IV merged with 100/200?3:05pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

If the students go to a school were they can learn in class they shouldn't need the extra schoolservices3:05pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Megan

I agree Kali3:05pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Hannah

we would do worse, they would do better. the average would even out3:05pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by rachel

Some kids can learn in class and still need a little help outside of it3:05pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Kate

not everyone learns the same3:06pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Kate



extra school services can be beneficial for everyone though, no matter what their grades are3:06pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Brennan

Kali is there is only people behind you then what motivation do you have to improve?3:06pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Megan

There are some folks in our classes now who--though you might not know it--were allowed inthough they didn't have the GPA and/or the ACT3:06pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

score3:06pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

You have to realize not everyone can retain so much in a short amount of time.3:06pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Hannah

yes but people in this class have some sort of motivation3:07pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by rachel

Are students who have ear buds in and stare at their smart phones lost causes?3:07pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

At what point is a person a lost cause?3:07pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

Other people shouldn't be the only thing motivating you to improve.3:07pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by kali

i don't think act scores or gpa determines student drive and willingness to learn3:07pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by rachel

Students that don't reach the require i think they are allowed in the classes in order for them toimprove on there skills3:07pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Ryan

At what point are people not worthy of additional resources to raise them up?3:07pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

requirement*3:07pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Ryan

What if Jesus was the secretary of education?3:07pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

I agree with rachel. I have known kids who do well in school and are motivated, but dont have ahigh ACT score just bc they test poorly3:08pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Brennan

then everyone would be cared for and given what they need. no one would be left behind or a lostcause3:08pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by rachel

I think Jesus has more important things to do



3:08pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by ayn

i don't think there should be a cap on resources to try and help people, we are ALL different andshould respect our differences3:08pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by sav

The ACT doesn't prove much3:08pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Haleigh

Personally it is not my job to say when someone is worthy or not.3:08pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Hannah

Jesus is a full time sheperd, that's right. Wait, we're his flock... or that's how the story goes.3:09pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

A person is always worthy of help no matter what they've done improving even one personimproves society3:09pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Kyle

Who says the public schools are the flock3:09pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by ayn

Thats a crappy flock3:09pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by ayn

How do we mobilize those communities?3:10pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

Why do colleges take the ACT so serious? Why can't schools take both the ACT and SAT?3:10pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Mohamed

a person needs to work for help it does not help the person to do things for them3:10pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Megan

what the flock are you talking about?3:10pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

I mean, what flock are you talking about3:10pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

i dont think a school thats capable of complying to every childs unique "needs" is very realistic3:10pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by ian

i agree w nick it shouldnt be a competition, every school should have a drive to surpass thestandard3:10pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Shelby

I sure hope public schools arent of Gods creation3:11pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by ayn

that would be disappointing3:11pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by ayn



What if the government funded education more? What if more money actually went to classroominstruction, teachers, etc...3:12pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

Yes, they should but that isn't how the system works we have a bridge of sorts between everyschool. Its all about measuring up to everyone.3:12pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Hannah

We would get more out of school3:12pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Haleigh

I feel like keeping the white students there improves motivation and improves funding3:16pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Nick

To me, it seems like a now vs the future problem.3:16pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

Eventually, with desegregation, if all the white folks/privileged folks stayed, we'd be all good.3:17pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

that's what the Podcast is suggesting, anyway.3:17pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

I think believing that circumstance doesn't affect education is a bit naive.3:17pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Elizabeth

but white flight or whatever it's called will almost always leave schools segregated once again3:17pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by tyler

Is White Flight okay?3:17pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

nope3:18pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by rachel

it's not ethical.3:18pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by tyler

I disagree, if we didn't have a mix of races we would fall into a stereotype that we are above orbetter than others.3:18pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Hannah

It's not the black students fault, and it's often not a lack of motivation, but rather a culture that'snot conducive to education.3:18pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Elizabeth

How do you reinvigorate a downtrodden community that suffers from bad family situations/values3:19pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich




"white flight" in the case of leaving due to segregation of race is wrong. But the "flight" to betterschools is hard to criticize.3:19pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Elizabeth

Its not just blacks at those schools, it's mostly social status, poorer counties and students leads topoorly paid, underperforming teachers3:20pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Nick

the problem at hand is institutionalized racism, does busing really fix that?3:20pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Molly

I have white friends whose parents work 2 and 3 jobs.3:20pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Haleigh

Role models and successful community examples are what's necessary to encourage under servedstudents.3:20pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Elizabeth

Would you all consider Oldham Co a White Flight school system?3:20pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

One of my friends has both his parents working 2 jobs3:20pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Nick

Take the projects for example. My class last year watched a documentary. It was about the prisonshere in Kentucky. It was shocking...3:20pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Hannah

i would say it is for sure.3:21pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Katie

yes oldham county is a direct result of white flight3:21pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Molly

yes when compared to ballard and eastern3:21pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by tyler

The suburbs were created because of white flight so our county is a prime example of that.3:21pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Elizabeth

Yes, our schools system became an outlet for people wanting to escape jefferson county3:21pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by rachel

the money in places like outer louisville plays a part in how good their schools are and howqualified of teachers they can hire3:22pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Shelby

to find out that a big reason the kids were in there were truant or didn't believe they could besmart enough to do good when they live ...3:22pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Hannah



How should we feel about Oldham Co Schools, then? How should you feel about being a studenthere and I feel about teaching here?3:22pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

in such a bad place.3:22pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Hannah

Should I feel guilty teaching here?3:22pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

no3:22pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by ian

no3:22pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Haleigh

I disagree that suburbs caused white flight, they are a symptom of the problem3:22pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Kyle

you got the job you earned it3:23pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by ian

Searching for a better education isn't unethical in itself, its the barriers that prevent black studentsfrom doing the same that are wrong.3:23pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Elizabeth

No, you shouldn't.3:23pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Hannah

no you earned the job3:23pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Will

should I feel bad being in a good school with a good reputation3:23pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Texas

well said @elizabeth3:23pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Molly

We should recognize that overall,we come from a place of privilege, and that we do have it betterthan other areas, but we shouldn't feel3:23pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by kali

guilty because of it3:23pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by kali

are you teaching here because you are scared of working at a possibly unsafe, mostly blackschool?3:23pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by rachel

The suburbs didn't create white flight, white flight made the suburbs.3:23pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Elizabeth



no i don't think you should and I don't think we should. I think that giving yourself the bestpossible opportunity is not bad3:24pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Katie

no but we should feel lucky to be in this school3:24pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Haleigh

You, as a student, definitely should not. You have no real control over it3:24pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

That is very true @Elizabeth3:24pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Hannah

You're a minor or were one when you made the decision to come here (@Tex)3:24pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

Haleigh, yes. Thank you.3:24pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

Anytime3:24pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Haleigh

There's no reason to feel guilty about being blessed, but we can feel guilty if we know there areproblems in our society and we do nothing3:26pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Molly

I would say that JCPS should be given more funding, but there are so many schools it's so difficultto do so.3:26pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Nick

Do you all feel obligated to help other's gain a good education because you got one? If so what doyou plan to do about it.3:28pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Elizabeth

You don't have to become a teacher to help others gain a good education, you can simply be anadvocate for education and for change3:29pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Molly

The gap won't go anywhere without any actions3:31pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Nick

What would you think would happen if a school with bad tests scores and their students were toldto come here. How would people react to it3:31pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Ryan

Not just races merging, but communities merging into having the same values.3:31pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Elizabeth

Will the gap between the "white schools" and "black schools" ever really just peeter out?3:31pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

It wouldn't have anything to do with race, it would have everything to do with social status.



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I would think changing schools because my test scores were sucky, would indeed suck.3:32pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by ayn

@Ryan, outrage would hapen, town hall meetings galore3:32pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Elizabeth

*happen3:33pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Elizabeth

I agree Shelby3:34pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Molly

What about the non Christians? What are we going to do?3:34pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by ayn

I agree with Shelby, it's the significant Christian community in this school3:34pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Nick

I feel like a lot of people in our community hold a "holier than thou" mentality3:34pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Molly

we're gonna sit back and hang because we can't relate3:35pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by sav

I think it is definitely within all the Oldham County schools3:35pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Katie

involvement with SE Christian has almost evolved into a social status3:35pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Elizabeth

i agree elizabeth3:35pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by rachel

i agree with elizabeth3:35pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Shelby

totally agree @Elizabeth3:35pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Molly

I agree Molly, a lot of self- righteousness in our community3:35pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Elizabeth

I feel like in this school if you dont believe in god you can become isolated in a way which isn'tright3:36pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Kate

Personally, I think Mormons are great. I also don't think im treated different in any way.3:36pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Tatie



most definitely Elizabeth, it is almost as if you're an outcast if you do not attend as a lot of ourschool does3:36pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by sav

I feel like private schools are better for religious students. For people that want school prayer andsuch3:36pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Nick

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A cult?3:37pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Tatie

no3:38pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Haleigh

Do you all think "Blacks have the same opportunities as "Whites3:38pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Ryan

what if you belong in several groups? not just one?3:38pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by sav

even if you're a Christian in oldham county, but you don't go to SE you can become an outcast3:38pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Molly

i agree molly3:38pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Shelby

Maybe black schools aren't targeted, but rather forgotten.3:40pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Elizabeth

I mentioned it before, but there's a baseball analogy that speaks of being on third base...3:40pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

I don't think they're targeted, i think it's a history of barriers and disadvantages put in placeagainst black communities3:40pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Molly

Attention isn't payed to the schools who need it most, often schools where minorities are themajority.3:41pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Elizabeth

Oldham Co Schools have kids already on second base... private school kids are on third, well ontheir way home... waiting for a sac fly3:41pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

There is this divide... Right where the streets become numbers downtown. The issue is people areaway from this area and we don't see it...3:41pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Katie

I agree they use to be targeted, and remnants of that can still be seen



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They get targeted because of social status, not race. I agree with Shelby it's location, poorer areaof Jefferson county get worse schools3:41pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Nick

Homeruns are hard to hit... you can't just swing and connect3:41pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Rich

they don't get as many opportunity because they don't receive as much money, your pay to go toOldham county schoools3:41pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Megan

wow rachel3:41pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Elizabeth

and once it is seen we fear it. It's almost like there is a wall and we just keep throwing smallthings over but not ourselves.3:42pm, Tues, Dec 5, 2017 by Katie

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