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Transcript of “Passion and Purpose with Peter Sage”

Bulletproof Radio podcast #368

© The Bulletproof Executive 2013

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DaveAsprey:Hey,it'sDaveAspreywithBulletproofRadio.Today'sepisodeisaremasteredversionofoneofthebestinterviewsI'vedonetodate.You'retotallygoingtoloveit,andIpromiseyouthatIwillnottakeyourtimetodirectyourattentiontosomethingthatisn'tabsolutelystellar.Enjoythisepisode.We'veremastereditforyou.Whatthisisdoingisit'sfreeingupalittlebitoftimeformetofinishthenewbook.It'salsomakingsurethatyouseethemostimportant,mostimpactful,mostusefulcontentbecauseIbelievereallydeeplywithBulletproofRadiothatgiventhatwe'repushing15milliondownloadsthenumberofhoursthatareconsumedjustlisteningtoBulletproofRadioismorethan100humanlifetimes.That'skindofabigresponsibility.I'mnotgoing


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towasteyourtimenotwithnumberslikethat.Thisisoneofthoseinterviewsthatyouabsolutelyhavetohear.

Today'scoolfactofthedaysaidarecentstudyfoundthatyourchancesofrememberingsomethingisfargreaterifyouseeit,ortouchitversusonlyhearit.Inthisstudyresearchparticipantshadadifficulttimerememberingsomethingtheyheardonlyfourtoeightsecondsafterhearingit,butiftheycouldconnectthesoundwithavisual,oratactilekindofstimulationtheirrecallincreased.Nowthisiswhysomespiritualtraditionsrequestthatwhenpeoplestudytheirtextthatpeoplemovebackandforthlikethis.It'sactuallybecauseyou'regettingthenervoussystemactivatedwhileyourstudying,soitsticksinyourbrainbetter.

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Well,HealthIQisacompanythat'sdecidedtochangethat.HealthIQadvocatesforhealthconsciouslifestyle.Theyusescienceanddatatofightforlowerratesonlifeinsuranceforhealthconsciouspeopleincludingcyclists,runners,vegans,andvegetarians,weightlifters,andotherpeoplewhoareondietsthatactuallymakethemfeelbetter,performbetter,andlivelonger.Infact,researchhasshownthatpeoplewithahighhealthIQare42%lesslikelytobeobese,andhavea57%lowerriskofearlydeath.Manypeopledon'tevenknowtheirhealthIQletalonerealizetheycangetalowerrateduetohavingahighhealthIQ.HealthIQhasspecialratesonlifeinsuranceforthehealthconscious,andrightnowBulletprooflistenerscanlearnmore,andgetafreelifeinsurancequotebygoingtoHealthIQ.com/Bulletproof.That'sHealth/IQ.com/Bulletprooftolearnmoreaboutlifeinsuranceforpeoplewhocareabouttheirhealth.

Dave:Sinceourguesttodayissofascinatingandamazing,youmightactuallywanttoconsiderwatchinghimliveandlisteningtothisepisode.CheckitoutonourYouTubechannel.Today'sguestisPeterSage.He'saninternationalserialentrepreneur,aworld


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classspeaker,anexecutivecoach,whowrotehisbookat18yearsoldaboutphysique.HewroteLessonsLearnedFromtheRecessionandFiveKeystoMasterYourLife.Notonlythat,he'sthefounderofSpaceEnergy,whichisamulti-billiondollarprojecttogenerateandtransmitcleanenergyfromspace,acompetitionlevelbodybuilder,anultra-marathoner,andamemberoftheDangerousSportsClub.

Basically,thisisaguywhoknowshowtokickass,infact,knowshowtoteachpeoplehowtokickbecausehe'salsoaTonyRobbin'scertifiedtrainer.

PeterSage,Ihopethatintroductiondidyoujustice.Welcometotheshow.

Peter:HiDave.It'salwaysinterestingtohearhowdifferentfactsofyourlifecanbepresentedincertaincombinationsthatmakeyousoundbetterthanyouprobablyare,butyeah,thankyouforthat.

Dave:You'resowelcome.Inallseriousnessthough,youareaguywhohasatrackrecordofoutperformingatmultiplethingsatthesametime,whichisonethereasonsthatIreachedtoBrianRoseforanintroductiontohaveyouon theshow.Whatdoyoudoeverydaytoperformsowell?Imeanyou'reoneoftheupperechelonperformers.What'syourtrick?

Peter:Iappreciatethatquestionactually.There'snotricktoit.That'soneofthechallenges.Ifpeoplethinkthatthere'satrick,andtheydon'tseethemselvesasamagician,thenitkindofputsthemselvesoutoftherealm,andthere'sthisseparationthatoccurswherebyyouhavethissortofguru-itisoryouhavethis,"Wellit'sokayforyoubecause..."fillintheblank,butnotformebecauseIdon'tfillinthatblank.

OneofthefirstthingsI'dinvitepeople,eitherlookingorlisteningtothistounderstand,isthefactthatthere'snothingspecialaboutme.I'myouprobablyoutofthechair,andmaybeI'vehadtheopportunitytodoafewthingsorhadafewlevelsofinsightsthatsomepeoplemaynotyethavetheopportunitytohaveaccessto.Hopefullywecanaddresssomeofthathereonthisshow.

There'snotricktowhatIdo.There'snomagicthatisoutsideofthescopeofanybodyelsecando.Weallhavenaturalpredispositions,butifIwastoputdownthefactthatorhighlightsomeoftheattributesthathaveallowedmetheillusionofbeingamagician,Iwouldhavetoputitdowntoself-disciplinewhenitcomestotakingchargeofmyinner


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world.Asaresultofthat,myouterworldappearstootherstofallintoplace,probablyalittlemorethantheirs.Thatwouldbetheonlything.

Now,sothereisa...HowdoIputit?Thereisadisciplinerequired,andIspendmostofmytimeinthemorningdoingmymorningpracticewherebyIstaycentered.Idomeditate.Idoreadpositive,inspirationalpersonaldevelopments,self-improvementtexts.IdovisualizewhatitisthatIwant.Nothingthatanybodyelsethathasthesamebasicnervoussystem,biochemistry,andsomewhatprobablymatchinglimitedintelligencethatIhave,couldn'tdo.

It'sconsistency.IfI'mabletodothatonaconsistentbasis,there'snomagictothat.It'sjustadecisiontobeabletodoit.

Dave:Well,there'sadecisiontodoit,andthenthere'stheselectionofwhattodo,whichisabigproblem.ThereareguyslikeTimFerrisswhohavemasteredallthesedifferenttechniques...Andyouclearlyhaveamorningroutinethat'shelpedyoutoelevateyourinnerworldsothatyourouterworldmatches;veryelegantwayofsayingthat.Whatdoestheroutinelooklike?Imeandoyouwakeupat5amandgoforarun?Doyouwakeupatlike10amandhavealatteatthecornerStarbucks?Howdoesthewholethingwork,right?

Peter:Iknowhowthosetwochoices...There’salotofpeoplethatwouldlikeittobethesecondone.

Dave:Iknow.

Peter:Natureoperateson2laws:growthandcon[inaudible00:05:09]-bution,andsogrowthisinherenttochallenge.Theunchallengedremainsjuvenile,andunfortunatelyintoday'sworldofinstantgratificationthatisbeingpushedtousbysomanydifferentagendas,commercialandotherwise,it'sveryhardforpeopletogetontothepositivesideofthehabitcurvewhenitcomestowillinglychallengingthemselves.Yes,thatincludesgettingupearlierandmakingtime,notthatyoucanmanufacturetime,bututilizingtimemoreeffectivelythanmostpeoplewhowouldratherstayinbedbecausetheywenttobedwatchingmoviesordon’thaveaself-disciplineondietthatsupportsahighlevelorenergy.


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Nowsayingthat,somepeoplearenaturallymoremorningfocuspeople,andsomeareanaturallymorenightfocusedpeople.Iamamorningguy,soforme,mystartis6amatthelatest.I'musuallyinmymeditationroomby6am.MyroutineisthatIwillreviewmymorningprayer,mygoals.Iwillsitandmeditate.Iwillvisualize.Iwillread,andthenIwilllikelyjournal.Iwilljournalforanywherebetween5and20minutesdependingonanyinsightsorinspirationsthatcamethroughformetoself-reflect.

That'sit.I'llthengohitthegymforhalfanhour,andthat'smymorningroutine.By9am,I'veinvestedinmymindandmybody,myspirit,andI'mreadyfortheday.That'sallthereistoit.

Dave:Whatkindofmeditationdoyoudo?6amiskindofearly.Alotofpeoplefallasleepwhentheytryanddomeditation.Soisthisthejumpingjackmeditation?Whatdoyoudo?

Peter:Iactuallyhavearebounderinmymeditationroom,wouldyoubelieve?Itendtoget[inaudible00:06:56]for...Ihavemygoalsonthewall,andmyincantationsnot...I'llreboundwhattostartwith.Thatkindofgetsthebloodflowingalittlebit,especiallyifyoudohavealittlebitofmorningmodecreepingin.Forme,bythetimeI'mmeditating,I'msittingdown;I'malreadyvibrating.I'malreadybuzzing.I'malreadyinastateofpositiveenergyonthatlevel.

Formeditation,itwillvary.Predominantly,it'saboutbreathingandfocusandbeingpresence.Idon'thaveafancytechnique.I'vespenttimewithsomeoftheZenmasters,livingonmountaintopsandspendingtimewithpeoplethatdothatfor20years,butthat'snotmydeal,whereaslongIcanquietmymind.Ifmyminddoesn'twanttobequiet,thenaslongasIcanobservemymindfromadeeperplace,ofwitnessingitratherthangettingcaughtupinthemerry-go-roundofthoughtsthatmostpeopletryandcontrol.

You'renotgoingtocontrolyourmind.Aslongasyoucandisidentifywiththefactthatyouarenotyourthoughts,itallowsyouadeeperplacetowitnessthemfrom.Ithinkthat'sthechallengewithmostpeoplethattryandmeditate.They'retryingtocontroltheirthoughts,yetyourmindisanunrulychild.Formostpeople,theconstantstimulationthoughtheday,especiallyintoday'smulti-connectivesocialmediaworld,yourmindisconstantlybeingtrainedtobeunruly.Foryoutothenthinkthatin20


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minutesamorningyou'regoingtomasterthatisliketryingtogotothejungleandtamealion.You'renotgoingtodoit.

It'snotgoingtohappen,soifyoucandisidentifyandcometotheplace,thefactthatIamnotmythoughts.MythoughtsareaverysmallpartofwhoIam.Ifmyconsciousisafishbowlfullofwater,thethoughtsarethefish.IfIcancomeatitfromunderstandingthatI'mmorethanthat.I'mthewater.Thefishhavetoswimthroughthatfromtimetotime,butthatisn'tme.I'mdeeperthanthat.It'seasiertoIthinkcalmyourselfandnotcaughtupbybeinghookedonalltheusualstuffthathooksthemind.

Dave:Now,Ishareyourviewthereexactly,"Youarenotyourthoughts."Yet,there'sahugenumber...Therearehugenumberoflistenerswhoaregoingtosay"Butwait,I'marationalbeing.It'sallabouttherationalityofmythought."Howdoyoudrawthelinebetweensortofthesoftworldofmeditationwhere"Youarenotyourthoughts"andthehardworldwhichis"Well,ifIthinkaboutit,AleadstoB,BleadstoC,thereforeAleadstoC,"thatkindofrationalistviewoftheworldversussomethingwhere"Ah,thethoughtshappened,Iacknowledgethethoughts.Iusethethoughts,butIamnotthethoughts"?

Alotofmyclients,alotofthepeoplewhoreadmyblog,strugglewiththat.Theydon'twanttobetooairy-fairy,andtheydon'twanttobehardassrobots.Howdoyouwalkthatlinedownthemiddle?

Peter:Youhavetochunkupalittlebittoahighlevelofawarenessandopenuptothefactthatifyoucan'tcometoaplacewhereyourecognizethatthereisaphysicalandametaphysical,you'realwaysgoingtobe[stumped00:10:03].Yes,weknowthatthereismetaphysical,andmetaphysicalsimplymeansoutsideoftherealmofthe5physicalsenses.Whenwasthelasttimeyourationalizedbeinginlove?That'snotsomethingthatoperatesthoughcausalityandNewtonianphysics.Ifyouwalkuptoyourwifetobeandgothroughachecklist,yeah,Idon'tputalotofhopeonlastingmarriageofunconditionallove.

There'sthepartofusthatmakesushuman.Thereisaspiritualaspecttousorametaphysicalaspectoranintangibleaspectbecauseifyouweretosaysomebody"Whoareyou?",ifyouwanttoliveinthephysicalworld,youarenotyourbody.Iknowthatbecauseyou'vegotaverydifferentbodynowthanyouhadwhenyouwere5yearsold.You'regoingtohaveadifferentbodynowthanwhenyou're80yearsold.That'snon-


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negotiable,butit'sstillthesameessenceofyou.Therealessenceofyouhastobenon-physical.It'sthenon-physical.It'syoursenseofhumor.It'syourpersonality,yourcharisma,yourbeliefs,yourvalues,yourdreams,yourhopes,yourwishes.

IfIwastotakethatoutofyouandputitintosomebodyelse,thenitwouldbeyouinadifferentbody.Ifyoucanunderstandthat"No.Okay,I'mnotmythoughts,buthowdoesthattranslateday-to-daywhenI'vegotamortgagetopay?"Well,understandthepossibilitytobeopentothatfactfirstbecauseitwillallowyouadifferentperspective.Youhavecontrol,limitedcontrolalotofthetime,overyourthoughts,butifyoustartidentifyingwiththem,youfallintoatrap.Asmuchasifyouidentifyyourselfwithyourbody,youfallintoatrap.You'renotyourbody.Jesusdidn'tknowhimselfashisbody.Muhammaddidn'tknowhimselfashisbody.

Youhavetohavealevelofappreciationbychunkinguptoahigherlevelofawareness.Now,ifthat'snotyourjourneyrightnow,thenfairenough.Biologicalmaturityisnotsomethingwegettovoteon.Emotionalmaturityandspiritualmaturityisachoice.Forsomepeoplethatgettoocaughtupintheday-to-day,maybeaboutrightnow,that'snottheirtime.Thechallengeisthat...Ortheparadoxisthemoreyoutendtositwithalevelofpersonalinquiryofthatlevel,themorethingsstarttoallowthemindtorelaxbecauseitwillstarttoseethingsthatoperateoutsideofcausality,andwhenithasamassedenoughevidencetodothat,ittendstoreleaseitsdeathgriponcircumstance.

Dave:Amazinglyjustliterateandwellworded,wellphraseddescriptionofthat,andthankyouforsharingthat.Iactuallyhaven'tfoundaverygoodwaytotryandexplainthatconcept.I'vemakeapartofmyownpracticetonotsay"Ihaveacold."It'smorelike"Mybodyhasthis"becauseI'mtryingtojustbuildintomyviewoftheworldthatasyouknow,"I'mnotmybody,andI'mnotmythoughts"becauseIthinkaboutallkindsofweirdstuff,oratleastmyminddoes.It'slike"Whatever"but...

Peter:Thatisn'tme!

Dave:Yeah.Idon'thavetofeelguiltyaboutthat."Ah,itwasjustathought."Like,"Yeah,maybeIwouldliketodothat,butI'mnotgoingto,soI'mjustgoingtosetthataside,thatthoughtasiderightnow."Thatcanbereallyliberating,butwhenyouswitchgears,andyoulookatsay,whatanentrepreneurdoes,andyoulookatwhattheydoinbusiness,howdoesthatemotionalresponseinthebody,eventhatmetaphysicalsideofthings,aswellasthephysicalsideofthingscomeintoplay?Youremotionscanbethe


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boss.Yourrationalthinkingcanbetheboss,butwhenyou'rethebusinessboss,notjustthebossofyourownbiology,howdoyouleanonewayortheotherjustasanentrepreneur,notjustasafullyfunctioninghumanbeing?

Peter:Forme,ithasagaintodowithrecognizingthe....Thephysicalworldtendstohaveitsbasisinthemind.Yourthoughtsreacttotheoutsideworld.Yourlogic,yourreasoning,yourassociations,yourconclusions,inductions,allstemfromthemind;allofwhichisbusydoingwhateveritdoeswhenabusinessdecisionhastobemade,whenafunctionaldecisionhastobemade.But,wehaveathinkingcenter,grantedandit'sexceptionallyusefulifwetendtotakechargeofitmoreofthetimeratherthanhaveitrunus,butwealsohaveafeelingcenter.Thefeelingcenteriswherealotofpeopletendtohavethismisnomer.

It'snottheairy-fairyemotionalworldofreactingtocircumstances.Youknow,"I'mfrustrated.I'mangry.I'mhorny"I'mwhateveritis.There'salotofemotionsandbiochemicalsthatinteractinthephysicalbodyandthat'sdrivethethoughtsbasedonreactiontoemotion.There'salsoadeepersenseofselfthatcomesfrom...Icallitaheartlevelofintelligence.Wenowunderstandinsciencethatthehearthasitsownbrain,40,000neuronsasaminimum,andtheimpetusoftheintelligenceofthedecisionsthattheheartbrainmakesisthebasisforwhattheheadbrainshouldactuallylistentofirst.Mostofthetimewehaveittheoppositewayaround.

We'llmakealogicaldecisionandthentrytorationalizeitthewaywedo,orwetryandjustifyouremotionalreactionwithlogic.Wedon'tgodeeperthanthatandsay,ultimately,getridoftheemotionalreactioncausedbyeitherfrustrationorjoyorreactiontowhateverbiochemicalendorphinsorserotoninorcortisonereactionsgoingoninmybody.What'sbeneaththat?

Peopleaskmeaboutleadership...Okay.Veryquickexample.There'sabillionbooksonleadership.There'sathousanddifferentcourses.There'smanydifferentmodelsandthisthatandtheother.Leadershipcomesdowntoonepredominantprinciple:Dowhat'sright.

Dave:Yes.

Peter:Ifyou'rewillingtobeunpopularinthemomentforwhatyoubelievetoberight,you'vegotthegenesisoftrueleadershiprightthere.Now,wecangothroughallsortsof


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fancydifferenttermsandstagesandlabelsandtranslations,butultimately,you'llgetmoreoutofbecomingapersonalleaderbydoingwhat'sright,independentofthegoodopinionofothersandtheneedforapprovalandsignificance.Yeah.Notwhatyoufeelyouneedtoimposeonsomebodyelsetoproveyourpoint,that'sadifferentgame.That'semotionalimmaturitytryingtomasqueradethroughalevelofegoandsignificanceandbeingabully.

Dowhat'sright.Weknowwhat'sright.Underneath,stripeverythingaway,listentoyourfrickingheart.Understandthatwhenpushcomestoshove,andyoureflectafterthefact,youknewwhatyouneededtodo.Weeitherdidn'thavethecouragetomakethatdecisionbecausetherewasotherpatternsrunning,orwejustifiedbecausethemindwasincharge.Comingbacktoyouroriginalquestion,thethinkingcenterisuseful,butifitleadstoshow...You'reonahamsterwheeltofrustrationmostofthetime.Ifyourreactionisgearedbasedonemotions,thenyouneverhaveasenseofgroundedness.

Butifyoucangodeeperthanthatandcomefromadeeperpartofyourfeelingcenterwhere,callityoursoulwithoutgettingtooesoteric,callit[thepartly0017:37]essenceofyou.Someone...Hawkinswouldcallit"Theeyeoftheeye,"thecenterofyou.Then,youhaveaverydifferentlevelofpresence.Yourealizethere'snobettertomorrows.There'snoworseyesterdays.There'sonlyapresentmomentwhereyoucanmakeanintelligentinformedandcongruentdecisionthatalignsyourheart,yourmotions,andyourmind.Fromthere,you'refreetodowhatyouwant.

Dave:IdidnotknowthatyouwereafanofHawkins.That'sawesomeandveryesoteric.OneofthethingsthatIstrugglewithwhenIworkwithclientsisthatalotoftheconceptsthatyou'retalkingaboutareineffable,andthattherearen'treallygreatwordstodescribewhateverthatthingis.OneofthetechniquesthatIuseis,I'macertifiedHeartMathtrainerusingheartratevariabilitytraining.Isthatsomethingthatyouuseaswellinyourownpracticetohelpconnectwiththatpartofyou?IfoundformeitwasoneofthefirstwaysIgot...

Peter:Ifyougointomymeditationroomrightnow,alongsidetheincense,you'llfindaHeartMathsensor.

Dave:Thereyougo.Thesetechniquesaresopowerfulandit'ssurprisinghowmanypeoplewillsay"Yeah,Idothat,"peoplewhoareatyourlevelofperformance.It'sinmymind,it'salmostlikecheatingbecauseIcanmeditate.I'vebeentoTibetandNepaland


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Peruandallthat,butIfind...WhenIhavesensor,sometimesIjustgetmoremeditationperminute,andthat'salsoavariable.Itwouldbeveryluxurioustospend8hoursadaymeditatingtobeperfectlyalignedwiththatlittleineffablethingthatwe'rebothtalkingaboutthere.

That'soneofthethingsIuse,butwhatarethefasterwaystohappinessthatyoumightuseasidefromHeartMath.Aretherethingsthatmakeyouhappyorthatyou’vefoundmakepeoplewhoworkforyouorwithyouhappiermorequicklybecausealotofpeoplejustaren'thappy?

Peter:Absolutely.

Dave:Whatarethey?

Peter:Twoaspects.One,firstofall,oneofthethingsI'lldotostartwiththis,givepeoplethefastestwaytounhappinessbecauseusually,it'snormallywhatstopspeoplefrombeinghappyratherthanallowingthemtobehappy,ifyouknowwhatImean.OneofthefastestwaystounhappinessthatIseepredominantlyasthemajorobstacleinmostpeople'sleveloffulfillmentistryingtogetsomebodyelsetobe,do,handlebehaviorinawaythatyouwantthemtoactualbehave.Wetendtoforgetthatweperceiveourworldthroughour5sense,andtheycanbedifferentforeverysingleotherperson.Weallhave5senses[bit00:20:12]processingcominginformationintothebody,anditisonlythroughthose5sensesthatwecanperceivethephysicalworld.

Anybodylisteningorwatchingthisrightnow,whetherthey'reusingsightorsoundorfeelingtheairconditioningortheseatthatthey'resittingorthebusthey'reridingonorwhateveritis,yeteverythinginthatouterworldiscomingtothemthroughthispodcast,isbeingfilteredfirstthroughoneofthose5senses.Theobviousquestiontoasktoflaguportoremindpeoplethatwecreateourownrealitymomentbymoment,ishowmanyofusalllikethesamefood?We'vegotavariableinstantly.Howmanyofusalllikethesamemusic?Howofushavethesamefavoritecolor?Howmanyofalllikethesamesmell?That'swhysomanydifferentlevelsandaftershave...We'vealldifferentsenseofwhatweliketosmell.

Fromthatsense,youcometoaconclusion,anunavoidableandinescapableconclusionthat2peoplecouldbestandingside-by-side,inhabitingprettymuchthesamespaceinthesamemomentintime,experiencethesameeventorexperienceintheouterworld,


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usethesameequipmenttoprocessthat,andthen[inaudible00:21:22]the5sensesandcomeupwithanentirelydifferentconclusionastowhatthatmeansorwhatthatexperience...effectisforthem.

Nowtheclearquestionis:Who'sright?Mostofthattime,wespendjustifyingwhyourinterpretationisright,andunfortunatelymostpeoplehavetogetbuy-infromotherstovalidatewhytheirsenseisright,bygettingexternalagreement;themorepeopleagreewithme,themoreIfeelgoodaboutbeingrightbecauseI'mjustifiedbecauseobviouslyI'veexperiencedit.Well,wakeup!No!Youexperiencedwhat'srightforyouandsomebodyelsecouldexperiencewhat'srightforthem,andthat'sbesidestheotherfiltersthataregoingon,yourexperience,yourbeliefs,yourculturalupbringing,yoursenseofvalues,yoursenseof...Youremotionalmoodatthetime,allofthosedifferentco-factors.

Ifyoucangiveupthegameoftryingtohaveotherpeopleactinawaythatfitsyourpictures,you'llstartavoidingthefastestroutestounhappiness.Youcouldalso[throwitinatdown00:22:25]atahigherlevel:reality.Now,Igaveupfightingrealityquiteawhileagoforonesimplereason:Itkeptwinning.Toallowyourselfthepermissiontoletgoofalotofthestuffthat'soutthere,thatdisagreeswithwhatyouthinkrealityshouldlooklike,isanotherwaytogetoffthat.

Now,ifyouwantthekeytohappiness,there'skindofacomplicatedwayandanuncomplicatedway.Thecomplicatedwayiswhatmostpeoplevoteon.That'showtheysetupthegame.Thecomplicatedwaytohappinessis,"WhenIget..."Yeah,fillintheblank,therightrelationship,moremoney,abettercar,thehouseofmydreams,thegirlofmydr-,whateveritis,fillintheblank.WhentheouterworldfitsthepictureofwhatIthinkmyinnerworldissayingitshouldlooklikeinordertobehappy,thenIwillgivemyselfpermissiontobehappy.That'sverycomplicatedandunfortunately,it'sahouse,awheeltonowhereformostpeople.

Theenergyfieldofdesirewillneverbecomplete.You'llgettemporarylevelofsatisfaction,butdesireislikeadrug.It'snotastatethatyouconquer.Desireisanongoingprocess,therefore,whateveryoudesire,youthinkyou'regoingtogettobehappy.Onceyougetit,youmaygetatemporarysenseofachievement,butthedesireisanenergyfield;it'sself-perpetuating,soithastoreplaceitselfwithsomethingelse,butthat'satrapmostpeopledon'trecognize.That'sthecomplicatedway,andI'vespent


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many,manyyearsdoingthatandsomewhatfruitlesslychasingmytailasIthinkalotofpeopleappreciate.

Thesimplewaytohappinessisalittleeasier.Thinkhappythoughts.Andyousuddenlycometothemind-blowingawarenessthatallhappinessevercanbeisarealtimepresentconditionofthinkinghappythoughts.Now,ifyousetupagaintosaythatyou'llonlyallowyourselftodothatoncetheouterworldfitscertainpicturesthataren'tcurrentlyfulfilled,thengoodluck,keepchasing.Butallyouevergoingtodoisgiveyourselfpermissiontodowhatyoucangiveyourselfpermissiontodorightnow.Ifyouwanttobehappy,orifyoulookbackinyourpastandthetimesyouwerehappy,Iguaranteeyouthat'sallthat'sgoingon.Youarethinkinghappythoughts.

Dave:Ontheflipside,itiseasiertobehappywhenyourbasicneedsaremet,right?

Peter:Mostpeople'sbasicneedsareamovingtarget.Mostpeopledon'tunderstandwhattheirbasicneedsare.IgotoGuguletuinCapeTown;basicneedsare"CanIhaveanextraspoonofrice?"IwalkdownthestreetandlistentosomeoftheconversationsintheDubaiMall,andyou'dthinkmost6yearoldsbasicneedsare"CanIhaveanextraiPad?"

Dave:You'reexactlyright.OneofthehappiestgroupsofpeopleIeversay,thatwasreallytouching,wasinCambodia,notmorethanadecadeor2afterthecountrywasjusthorriblytraumatized.Verypoorpeople,adollaraday,that'stheaverageincome,notenoughfood,walkingaroundhappierthantheaveragepersonyouwouldseeinamallanywhereinAmerica.Justcompletelyamazingbecausetheywerethinkinghappythoughts,walkingaroundsingingsongsand...Therewassuffering,buttherewasstillhappinessatthesametimewhichwasaneyeopenertomeatthetime.It'ssimilartowhatyou'resaying.Theword"Need"theremaybeispartoftheproblembecauseit'snotactuallywhatyouneeded;it'swhatyouthoughtyouneeded.

Peter:Ashumanbeings...Yougottounderstandthatwedon’tgettovoteonwhetherwearegoingtobeprogrammedornot.Weareprogrammablepeople.Wedon'tdothingsoutofrationalthinkingmostofthetimes,unfortunately.Wedoquiteabitoutof


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passion,butmostofwhatwedo,wedooutofconsistentlyingrainedhabit,andthosehabitsarebaseduponprogramming,majorityofwhichisunconscious.

Now,peopleinCambodiaatthatparticulartimedidn'treallyhaveaccessto30,000commercialmessagesaday,programmingthemtoaswhythey'reunhappywithoutcertainproducts.Theyweren'tpluggedintogoodthingslikeconstantnegativenewsorCNNasmostpeoplecallit.Theyweren'texposedtoaleveloroutsideprogrammingthattheyfeeltheystillhavefreewilltomakedecisionson,whichisthefurthestthingfromthetruthbecausewhetherornotyou'regoingtobeprogrammed,itisn'tachoice.Howyouwanttobeprogrammedisachoice,butmostpeopleondefaultleavethatcompletelyopenandthereforesusceptibletotheagendasofothers.

It'slikesailingonanocean.Youdon'tgettocontrolthewind.You'regoingtobeblown.You'regoingtobeblown.Howyouutilizethatbaseduponwayyouhandledyoursail,youdogettochoose.Butifyouthink,"Wow.I'msailing.”You'regoingtowakeupnextmorningsomewhereoffcourse,oratthemercyofwhateverthewindis.

Nowthechallengetotheirsocietyisthatthewindhasanagenda.Themediahasagendas.Commercialbiashasagendas.Theyspendalotofmoneyandhirealotofsmartpeopletofigureouthowyoucanbeunconsciouslyprogrammed,themosteffective,efficient,andclinicalwaypossiblethatifyouwerewalkingaroundwithoutaspecificfocusorintentiontotakechargeofyourownprogramming,Iguaranteeyou,you'regoingtobepickedupandputonafasttrackofhowsomebodyelsewantsthattohappen.That'sjustthewayitis.

Dave:I'veusedalotoftechnologyaswellasmeditationtobecomeawareoftheautomatedresponsesmybodyhasandtolearnhowtoreprogramthemsothattheyservememuchbetterthanservingsomeotheruses.Whatarethetechniquesthatyouusedthatmakethemostdifferenceforbecomingawareofyourinternalmessages,includingtheonesthatyougotprogrammedfrommediaorjustfromthewayyouwereraisedbecomingawareofthem,andthenchangingthemsothatyoudon'thavetogothroughthatrationalloopofrecognizing,thinking,andthendoing,whereasyoucanjustchangetheactualresponseinthefirstplace?Doyouhaveawaytodothat?

Peter:Askotherquestions.Bepresentenoughtoaskintelligentandsmartquestions."What'sreallygoingonhere?"isagreatquestion."Whatistheagendathat'shappeningrightnow?""Whatdoesthisreallymean?"Becausemostpeople,again,arewalking


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aroundofferingthemselvestobeemotionallymanipulatedandhavenoclue.Trustme,there'salotofsmartpeopleoutthererightnowthatgethiredbyalotofcorporationsthatpayveryhandsomelytofigureouthowtopressyourbuttons.

Ifyou'reallowingyourbuttonstobepressedwithoutsaying,"Whoa,hangonaminute."...Whenyoucometotheawarenessthatnobodycandoanythingtoyouemotionallywithoutyourpermissionyoustarttounderstandlevelsoffreedomofthoughtandfreedomofresponse.Thechallengeismostpeopledon’tlikeresponsibilitytobeabletodothatbecausetheyholdresponsibilityasawaytofeelgood.It'skindofextraburden.“Ihavemore...[enoughresponsibilityatwork00:29:47]Ihaveenoughresponsibilityformyfamily,”butstopandhavealookatthewordforasecond,"Responsibility."Theabilitytorespond.

Ifyouwanttotakeresponsibilityforyourownemotionalreactions,ifyouwanttotakeresponsibilityforyouownqualityoflife,yourownqualityofexperience,it'sgotnothingtodowithwhetheryou'redrivingthecaryouwant.Everythingtodowithamoment-by-momentappreciationofthefactthatnobodycandoanythingtoyouemotionalwithoutyourpermission.Whenyoustarttakingchargeofyourresponseandyourreactionratherthanjust[runoffapattern00:30:27]...It'skindoflikepeoplehaveawholeseriesofmoviespre-recorded,andit'slikebeingahumanjukeboxorahumansortofmoviejukebox.

Assoonassomebodysaysordoesoranythingthatpressesacertainsequenceofbuttons,yougointoapartofthebrainthathasapresetresponseonapresetrecordedDVD.Itgoesintheslot,pressesplay,andyouactoutsomethingthatisunconscious,thatyoudidn'tevengettovoteon.Now,sosomebodyturnsaroundandsays"Hey.You'reanasshole."Andyou'relike"Howdareyoucallmea..."whateveritis.Yeah,sotheyjustpressedabutton,andyouwenttothepre-recorded...

Let'ssayifsomebodydoesthis,Iplaythismovieandthisiswhathappens.Wakeup!You'rebetterthanthat.Ifsomebodycallsyouthat...Andhowaboutcompassion?Howaboutsaying...

You'redrivingdowntheroadandsomebodycutsyouoffintraffic,classicone.Nowyouwanttomakeitreal?EspeciallyontheroadsinDubai.Yeah?You'redrivingandsomebodycutsyouoff.Apartfromthefactit'spredictable,allright,youknow,"Sonofa


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b..."Youstartreactingoffapattern.Youwanttogetaheadofthem,oryouwanttogivethemapieceofyourmind.Youwantto...Youchasethemdowntheroad.

Now,canyoujustimaginethat,andyou'vegotyoursonordaughterinthecar,what'sdaddyormummyteachingthemaboutmasteryofemotionalresponse?No.Nothing.Thatcouldprobablyleadtosomeprettybadscenariosatthenextsetoftrafficlightsifthatgotoutofcontrol.Asopposedtoyousuddenlyseethisguy,who'sallmeanlookingandovertakesyouandcutsyouoffandyou'relike,"I'lltellyouwhat.HeobviouslyneedstheroadmorethanIdo.I'msogratefulI'mnothavingadaylikehe'shad."

Dave:Yeah,andprobablyhe'sgotsomeonedyinginthebackseat.Youjustdon'tknow,right?

Peter:Ifheneedstheroadsomuchthathe'sgoingtodothatthen,yeah,I'mgratefulthatthat'snotmesittinginthecar.

Dave:ThatwasoneofthemoredifficultthingsIeverlearned.ThewayIfinallydidthat,Peter,waswiththeHeartMathsensor.Ilearnedtodriveintrafficandkeepthelightgreen.Everytimesomeonecutsyouoff,itwillturnred.Ittookme2weeksofdoingthateverydaybeforeIcouldfinallykeepitgreenwhensomeonecutmeoffbecause...Imeanitjustmakesyouwanttokill.Itreallydoes.That'syourbody,yourfightorflight.Itsomehowthinkstheguy'satigerorwhateverelse,buttoreversethatprogramminginmyselftookalongtimebecauseIusedtobekindofajerkontheroad,andI'mgladtosayI'mnotanymore.

Peter:Welldoneonbeinganexamplethere.ButonethingI'dinvitemylistenersorviewerstolookatisourself-language,ourself-vocalizationbecauseifweturnaroundandsay"Thatsonofabitchmadememad,"guesswhat?Completeuntruth.Absolutelylie.Atleast...Evenifyoucan'tunhookemotionally,allowyourselfthegiftofbeingtruthfulevenifnobodyelsehearsit.YouknowwhatI'msaying?Ichosetomakemyselfmadbaseduponwhattheydid.Now,itdoesn'tmeansayyou'regoingtoagreewiththem,buthere'sanotherlevelofmasterythatwouldallowpeopletoraisetheirlevelconsciousness.

WhenIlookatbehaviorinothersthatIwouldlet'ssay,disagreewithorfallsoutsideofmyvaluesoratbestwouldillicitanegativeresponseandatworstwoulddrivememadandwhateveritis,oneofthethingsthatwouldteachpeopleveryquicklyhowtoraise


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thatlevelofconsciousnesstoapointwheretheycanbecomeself-masters...Andthisisreallywhatwe'retalkingabout.It'saboutbecomingmasterofourownemotionalresponseratherthanallowustobehookedandpulledandpushedandlikeeverybodyelsehasgotthepuppetstrings,becausethat'snotalifethat[hadatleast00:34:32]anyleveloffulfillment.

Ifyousomebodyactingoutofaccordancewithhowyoufeeltheyshouldbeacting,thenoneofthefirstthingsthatIdoisIputmyselfintheirshoes.Ihavetocometotheplaceofunderstandingthatlook,peopledothingsforreasons,right?Casedclosed.That'sthepsychologicalfact.Peopledothingsforreasons.Now,theymaynotbeyourreasons,andtheymaynotbemyreasons,butIknowtheydothingsforreasons.

UnlessIcanputmyselfinsomebodyelse'sshoestotheextentthatIcanunderstandingthatifIwasthemwiththeirhistory,theirstory,theircurrentemotionalframeofmind,theirbeliefsystem,theirscrewedupcallitmodeloftheworld,whateverlabel,whatjudgmentyouwanttodo,whateveritis,ifIcannotputmyselfintheirshoesandfullyassociatetothefactthatifIwasthem,Iwouldalsohopedonewhattheydid,thenIhavenorighttojudge.

Now,itdoesn’tmeantosaythatonceIstepoutofthatshoes,Idon'thavetoagreewiththem,ofcourse.ButunlessIcanputmyselfintheirshoesand[comes00:35:43]theplaceofawarenessandunderstandable[authentically00:35:46]saythat“Yeah.Iwoulddothat,andIcanbethatpersonbecausewe'veallbeenidiots,assholes,impatient,endupshorttempered,badasssonofbitch,unloving,unlovable...”Thereisn'tawordintheEnglishlanguagethatcandescribehumanbehaviorthatwe'venotencountered,embodiedandbeingatsomepointinourlife.Caseclosed.

Ifwecan'tcometotheawareness...IfIcan'tstepinsidethatperson'sshoesandappreciatewhythey'vedoneit,itdoesn'tmeansayIneedtoagreewithitonceIstepoutoftheirshoes,ifIcan'tappreciatethefactorcometotheawarenessthatifIwastheminthatstatewiththeirmindset,theirhistory,theirstory,"Iwouldn'thavedonethesamething",thenIhaveabsolutelynorighttoimposemyjudgmentormodeloftheworldontothatperson.Butmostofusdo.We'retooquicktoclick,"Ohlookatthatidiotdoingwhathe'sdoing."Well,guesswhat?Youwerethatidiotatonepoint,oryoucertainlycouldbe.


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Sounhook,comefromaplaceofnon-judgmentstotheextentthat...Itdoesn'tsayyou'retryingtoputtheworldtorights,no.Yougotnorighttoputtheworldtorights.Wakeup.Theonlyrightthatwehaveinthisworldfrommyperspectiveistotryandbethebestuswecanbe.Ifyou...Ihavethisbeeinourbonnetabout"We'vegottofixtheeducationsystem.We'vegottofixtheeconomy.Thegovernmentsucks.Blah,blah,blah,"allofthis,andwe'reonamissiontotryandfixeverybodyelseaswell,thenI'veseenthatleadtoalotoffrustration.

YoutakeNelsonMandela.NelsonMandeladidn'tbuildschools.NelsonMandeladidn'tgoandfixotherpeople'sproblems.Hedidn'ttryandaddresswhatwason.Hebecametheexampleforotherstofollowbybeingthebesthimhecouldbe,irrespectiveofhispast,rightorwrong,andhehadlevelof27yearsoftimetomatureemotionallytoleadacountrythroughoneofthetraumaticanddifficulttimesthatcouldhavesodescendedintoviolencelikethat.Andhedidn't,buthedidn'tdoitbyrunningaroundtryingtofixeverybodyelse'sissuesandtellingwhytheywerewrong,no.Hebecametheexample.Asaresultofthat,hechangedmillionsmorelivesthananybodybuildingschoolsinAfrica.

Dave:Yeah.Theideathat"ifyouwanttochangetheworld,changeyourself,"it'strueandit'ssohardtoimagine.Tochoosetoactwithcompassionwhenpeoplearedoingthingsthatmaketheworldaworseplaceisadefinitelydifficultchoice,butit'sonethatyouseepeoplemake,andwhentheydo,theycreatereallybigchange.Whatis-

Peter:It'snotabout-

Dave:Goahead.

Peter:It'snotaboutlevelsofunderstandingbecauseinsightplaysverylittlepartofthat.It'sallaboutlevelsofawareness.Forexample,whenIwas16,asI'msuremanyotherpeoplelisteningherethat,yeah,canprobablyrememberthatfarback,IthoughtIgottheworldprettysussedout.At16,wegotourstufftogether,right?Yeah.Weknowhoweverythingis.Now,whenwe're25,andwelookbackatthe16yearoldus,howmuchoftheworlddidweactuallyreallyhadsussedoutat16?Right?Nothing.Right?Butcoulda25yearoldexplaintoa16yearoldwhattheworldislikeat25?

Well,theycanexplainit,andtheycanintellectuallyprobablyunderstandsomeofit,butthere'snowaytheycanexperienceitbecausethebaseisn'tbigenough.Thequestionof


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wantingtohaveself-inquirytothepointofmaturingemotionallyorspirituallyisaboutrecognizingthatwhereverwearerightnow,ourbaseisn'tbigenoughtounderstandwhat'snextandbeingokaywiththat.

Whenyou're40,youlookatbackat25whenyouthoughtyoureallyhadtheworldsussedandrealizedhowlittlewehavetheworldsussed.At25,youcan'texperiencelifeasa40yearold,notbecauseyou'renotintelligent,notbecauseyourIQ,oryou'regoingtolearnsomenewtechniqueonmeditatingat40,no.Yourbaseisn'tbigenough.

Toturnaroundatsomebodyat16andsay,"Look.Youshouldreactwithcompassionratherthanmakinganobscenegesturethroughthewindow,"youcan'tjudgesomebodyforthatbecausewe'reonapath,andthatpathunfolds.Now,thepaththatunfoldsprobablyfesterwhenyouhavetheintentiontomoveforward,butnobodywasbornenlightened.Buddhawasn'tbornenlightened.Itwasajourney,aprogression,andthatisthejourneyformostpeople.

At41yearsoldnowmyself,Iknowthe...Yes.IlookbackatwhenIwas30or25andtheegodriventhatIwasatthetime,andIseehowmuchoftheworldthatIdidn'tknow.Iwouldn'thavereactedwithcompassion.You'dcallmeanassholeandIwould’veprobablyhead-buttedyou.NowI...Itdoesn'tmeantosaythatthepersonIwasthenisanylesssignificantorworsenow;it'sjustlevelsofawareness.Ican'tgobackandtellmyselfthatbecauseIwouldn'tunderstanditatthatage.

Forpeoplethathavehadthehumilityandthegracetohaveallowedthemselvestoprogress...Oneofthetemptationssometimesistojudgeothersthathaven'thadthatlevelofawarenessyet.Youcan'tdothat.Youcanonlybetheexampleforthemtofollowandunhookfromthewhethertheyshouldorshouldn't.

Dave:Notalotofpeopleknowthis,butBulletproofisaprettysmallcompanyrightnow,but3ofmykeyemployeesaremorethan20yearsolderthanIambecauseIfiguredtheymusthaveabiggerbasethanIdo,andtheycertainlyhavemoreexperiencethanIdo,andIrelyheavilyontheiradvicebecauseIfigurewhoeverI'mgoingtobewhenI'm50,bythewayI'm41also,abouttoturn42atsomepointcominguphere...It'sreallyinterestingjusttoseetheworldthroughtheireyesandthroughmine,andIknowthatIdon’thavethatkindofexperience,andIthinkthat'soneofthethingsthathelpedmetodowhatI'mdoingjustbecauseI...RecognizingthattheremustbealotmoreIdon't


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knowbecausemybasenowisalotbetterthanlikeyousaidat25or16becauseIwasdefinitelyajerkbackthen...Iworkonbeingmuchlessofonethesedays.

There'ssomethingthatcomesintoplayherethough,andthat'swealth.You'vebeenaverysuccessfulserialentrepreneur.Ihadthefortunateandunfortunatelessonofmaking6milliondollarsandthenlosingitinmymid-20swhich-

Dave:That'snotsofun.Companywentbankrupt,etcetera,etcetera.Mostpeopleonlyhearthe"Davemade6milliondollars.He'sarichA-hole."I'mlike"Itdidn'tquitegodownlikethat.I'vebeenworkingforthepast20yearsforareason."Whatistheroleofwealthandpeople'semotionalandspirituallikeinnerawarenessandtheirconnectiontowealth?What'syourtakeonthat?

Peter:Greatquestionandonethatisprobablyoneofthebiggestareasthatpreventspeoplefromclimbingthroughlevelsofawareness;istheygetstuckonmoney.Idon'tknowhowmuchlongerwehave,but...Frommyside,formoney...HowcanIputit...Onceyouunderstandwhatmoneyis,ahigherlevelofawareness,youcanstopchasingthedamnthingbecausemoneyissimplyandalwayswillbe,areflectionofwhatvalueyouadd.Caseclosed.It'sanarbitrarymediumofexchange.Moneymeansnothing.IftheeconomywentFUBARtomorrow,andwe'releftwithamilliondollars,anditwascold,you'dburnittostaywarm.Moneyhasnointrinsicvalueinthewaythatwerepresentitrightnow.

Allitis,isabyproductorconsequenceofhowmuchvalueyouadd.Now,thereasonmostdon'tlikethatawarenessisbecauseifyoudon'thaveenough,thatmeansyouhavetolookinfrontofthemirrorandsay"WellthatmeansIhaven'tgivenenough."Mostpeoplesenseofwhattheythinkthey'regivingisenough,buttheyjustdon'tfeelasiftheyhaveenoughmoney.Theotheraspecttothisisthatmostpeopleunfortunatelydon’trecognizethatthereare2bankaccounts.

Thereisafinancialbankaccount,whicheverybodyfocuseson,butthere'sanemotionalbankaccount.Mostpeople'semotionalbankaccount,unfortunately,followstheirfinancialbankaccount.Ifyourfinancialbankaccountislowerthanwhatyou'dlikeittobe,thenusuallyyouremotionalbankaccountistoofarbehind.PeoplewhothinkthatmoneywillsolvealloftheirproblemsarelivinginDisneyland.Thechallengewiththatprevalentbeliefsystemformostpeople,isthatmoneysolvesproblems,isbecause


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thosethatdon’thaveaccesstoalotofmoney,mostoftheirimmediateproblems,arecausedbylackofmoney.

Therefore,theillusionisthatthemoremoneyIhave,thenthelessproblemsI'llget.Well,that'sjustnottrue.You'llhavebiggerproblemsandbetterqualityproblems,butthat'sadifferentconversation.

Youasksomebodywho'sworth10,20milliondollarsifproblemsgoaway,andthey'lllaughatyou.But,ifyouhavethesituationwhereyourpsychologyiswiredthatyourfinancialbankaccountfollows...Youremotionalbankaccountratherfollowsyourfinancialbankaccount,you'llalwaysbepoorfinancially.Thatisbecause,whatweweren'ttaughtinschool,isthatthefinancialbankaccountisalackingindicator,notaleadingindicator.Inotherwords,ifwewantafinancialbankaccounttogoup,ouremotionalbankaccounthastogoupfirst,otherwisewe'retiedintoanegativefeedbackloop.

Now,there'satimedelaybecauseweliveandoperateinaparadigm,what'sknownasNewtonianphysicsandcausality,whichmeansthatthecircumstantialrealitythatweneedtocreatetoincreasemoneydoesn'thappeninstantaneously.Ithappensinstantaneouslyinthemetaphysicalworld.Youstartvibratingatthelevelofpositiveattraction;youstartappreciatingthings.Youstartgettingontoalevelofraisingofemotionalaccounttoahighlevel,thefinancialbankaccounthastofollow,butitdoesn'tfollowat3:00onTuesdaywhenwewantittobecauseinthemetaphysicalworld,thingshappeninstantaneously,sothat,whatHawkinswouldcallanattractivepattern,it'salreadyset.

Yousendthemessageout,butpeopledon’tgiveitlongenoughbecausetheywanttoseeimmediateresults,orthey'rehookedintotheiremotionalbankaccountgetstiedbacktotheirfinancialbankaccount,sothenallofasuddenyou'rebackonthenegativeloop.

Togiveanexample,ifyouareinadream,ifyouwantsomethingtohappen,ithappensinstantly.Youwanttofly,youfly.Inthemetaphysicalworld,thingshappenstraightaway.It'salmostlikealittleboat,aremotecontrolboatonapond.Youturnleftonthecontrollerandvoom,voom,instantlyturnsleft,butinthephysicalworld,thetimeittakesforthatattractivepatterntotranslateintocircumstantialrealityoftheuniversetorearrangeitself,toallowthatfinancialbankaccounttofollowtheemotionalbank


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account,it'slikeanoiltankerontheocean.Youturnthewheelleftandnothinghappensto2kilometers.

Youhavetogiveittime.Thesignalhasbeenset.Theboathastoturn,butifhalfwayafterakilometeryouspinthewheelbackandsay"Thisshipdoesn'twork"andI'msorry,butnobodyvoteonthefactthatyougettocontrolwhenthathappens,butthespeedthattheboatturnsatistotallylinkedtothecongruencyandthealignmentbetweenyourthinkingcenterandyourfeelingcenterandtheconsistencyofthatfrequencythatyou'rebroadcasting.

Talkaboutmoney...Money'sareflectionofthevalueyouadd,andthatvalueyouaddisn'tjustaboutgiving40hoursaweek,anemployeroraproducttoaserviceintothemarketplace,whatvalueyouaddingtotheworldthatyou'reinhabiting.We'reallguestsonthisplanet,butifyou'rekickingandcomplaining...Here'swhymostpeople'sfinancialbankaccountsstayslow.Becausewhattheydois...I'llgiveanothermetaphor.

Imaginewalkingintoanartgalleryormuseum.Yougointoamuseum.Youwalkintotheroom,andtheexhibitiscalled"YourWife."Youwalkintothisroom,andyoulookaround,andyoudon'tactuallyliketheexhibit.Infact,they'redisgusting.Theydon'tpleaseyou.Now,you’vegotacoupleofdifferentthingsyoudo.Here'swhatmostpeopledo.Havingboughttheticketandwalkedintothatexhibit,theystopstampingtheirfeet,shoutinganddemandingthecuratorcomesandchangesalltheexhibitsaroundtosomethingtheylike.Nowifyoudidthatinthemuseum,whatwouldactuallyhappen?

Dave:You'dleave.Peter:Securitywouldcome,andyou'dbethrownout.

Dave:Yes.

Peter:Right?Wouldyouhaveanychanceofdemandinghavingboughtyourticket,thatthecuratorcomesandchangesthat?Isanythinginthatroomgoingtochange?

Dave:Notatall.

Peter:Notatall,soyouhaveabsolutelynorighttocomplainattheexhibitsintheroomcalled"YourWife".However,youhaveeveryrighttochoosetowalkintoadifferent


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room.Ifyou'rebitchingandcomplainingabouttheexhibitsandyourwiferightnow,guesswhat?Thatisthegluethatkeepsyoutiedtothem.Quitthatbecauseitwillkeepyouremotionalbankaccountatzeroandyourfinancialbankaccountwillhavenochancetochange.Youhaveeveryright...You'vegotsome...

IfIrecognizedthatmyfinancialbankaccountissimplyareflectionofwhatmyemotionalbankaccounthasbeendoingforthelastcoupleofmonths,thenit'snowondermostofitisintheshapethatit'sin.Hey!That'spositiveconfirmationthatthesystemworks.I'mgoingtomakeacommitmenttogooutandwalkintoadifferentroomandmaintainandholdthatcourse.Nobodycancomebacktomein2monthsthatauthenticallydoesthatandtellsmethatthathasn'tshifted.Itmaynotshiftexactlyhowtheywant,buttheonlypeoplethatcomplainarethereonesthatgoinfor3days,seethatithasn'tchanged,andthencomplainaboutitandspinthewheelbackonthetanker.

Dave:Peter,thepartaboutyouremotionalbankaccountleadingyourfinancialbankaccount,isthatbasedon...Isthatsomethingyouinvented,oristhatbasedonsomeparticularteachingorworkthatyou'vecomeacross?Becauseit'sbrilliant,andI'veneverhearditbefore.What'sthesourceofthat?

Peter:TheanalogyofthepersonalfinancialbankaccountissomethingthatIoverlaybecauseIthinkpeoplecanunderstandthat.

Dave:It'sreallywellsaid,anditmakesgreatsense,sothat'sbrilliant,thankyou.

Peter:Iappreciatethat,thankyou.ImeanIcouldgointomanydifferentlevelsoftangible,intangible,physical,metaphysical,Newtoniancausality,non-lineardynamics,butmostpeoplegettheanalogyoffinancialbankaccount,emotionalbank-,Itjustmakesiteasyforthosethataren'tinthe[know-tery00:50:56]likesometimeswearelearningadvancedtheoreticalphysicsandmetaphysics.

Tobefair,whenyougetthroughthat'sprettymuchwhat'sgoingon.

Dave:It'sthesimplestwayI'veeverhearditexplained,anditjiveswithmyrealityahundredpercent.Iwanttobeveryrespectfulofyourtimebutwehaveonemore-

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Dave:Oh,you'vegotsometime.Great.

Peter:Actually,beforewejumpoffthesubjectofmoney,IjustwantedtothrowinoneotherlevelofawarenessthatIthinkisveryvaluableforalotofpeople.Thatishaving...ObviouslyhavingworkwithTonyforthelastprobably,Idon'tknow,14orsoyearsnow,TonyRobbins...IwasactuallyTony'syoungestevertrainerin2002whichIwasveryproudofatthetime.LookingbackrightnowIrealizehowlittleIknewasatrainerbackthen.Thatsaid,again,we'reallonourownjourney.

OnethingIcertainlycreditandattributeTonyforraisingmylevelorawarenessiswhathecallsthe"Primaryfear".Theprimaryfearisthefearthatwe'renotenough.We'rebornwith2naturalfears:Thefearoffallingandthefearofloudnoises.Everythingelseislearned.Butthefearthatwe'renotenoughisusuallytherootcauseofmostoftheissuesthatI'dspendalottimeworkinginpsychotherapeuticinterventionaroundtheworld.That'susuallywhereithasitsgenesis.

Thefearthatwe'renotenough,notgoodenoughpredominantlyforalotofpeople,notrichenough,notcertainenough,notlovedenough,nothappyenough,nottallenough,shortenough,fillintheblank.We'veallgotablanktofillinatthatlevelpredominantlyunlessyoustarttranscendingintomuchhigherlevelsofawareness.

Forthefearthatwe'renotenough,let'sjustoverlaymoneyonthis.Oneofthemajorchallenges,andIstartedseeingthiswhenIlookedintotheissuearoundmoneythatpeoplehave,andthepsychologythatpreventsthemfromraisingtheirfinancialandtheiremotionalbankaccount.Thatisthat...Mostpeoplemakethefundamental,critical,anddevastatingmistake...Ican'tunderstatethis.Devastatingmistake,thattheycombineandintertwinetheirself-worthwiththeirnet-worth.Thatagainisdowntoalotoftheconditionalityandtheprogrammingthat21stcenturyrealityhasputonmostpeople."You'regoodenoughif..."youdrivetherightcar,havetherightbusinesscard,therightjobdescription,yeahblah,blah,blah,fillintheblank.

Ifyouhaveyourself-worthandyournet-worthtied,mostofthetimeifyournet-worthisthreatened,ittriggersthefearthatyouarenotenoughbecauseyourself-worthisautomaticallylinked.That'soneofthereasonswhyIseemostpeoplecompromisetheirvaluesaroundmoneyfasterthananythingelse.It'snotbecausethey'rebadpeople.It'sjustthattheirassociationtotheirself-worthandnet-worthissostrongthatiftheir...Theywilldecisionsthatwillcompromisetheirvaluesaroundmoneysothatthetrigger,


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thefearthatthey'renotenough,isnotsetoffbecausemostpeoplewoulddoalmostanythingtoavoidthat.

Ifpeoplewanttotakeastepforwardincreatingfinancialabundance,unhookyourself-worthfromyourself-worthfromyournet-worth.Understandthatyouwereborngood,nothing...Youdon'tneedabankaccounttoprovethat.Understandthatregardlessofwhathappens,you'renotgoingtotakeitwithyou.Youdon'twanttobetherichestmaninthegraveyard.TheonlypeoplethattrytotakewealthwiththemweretheEgyptians,andtheonlythingthathappenediswedugitupandstoleit.Thatdoesn'twork.That'swhythere'sabigdifferencebetweenwealthandfulfillment.Mostpeoplearesopoor,alltheyhaveismoney.

Ifyou'rechasingthat,andmostpeopledotovalidatetheirself-worth,thenagain,you'reonahamsterwheeltounfulfillmentthatunfortunately,that'satunnelwithnocheese.Mostpeoplewakeupattheendand...Itbegsthequestion,whatisthegrandprize?IsitafleetofBentleys?Becausehere'swhatIknow,I'veneverbeenaroundpeople,andIhave,beenaroundpeoplewhoareattheendoftheirlife;peoplethathavefinallysuccumbedtotherealizationoftheirmortalityandthatcouldbethefactthatthey'vegothours,days,orweekstoliveandhaveactuallyresignedorsurrenderedtothatlevelofawareness.

Everysingleoneofthose,notthosethatarestillfightingtheinevitable,butthosethathavesurrenderedtothatlevelofawarenessandhavealittlemorelevelofserenityaroundthatratherthanintrepidation.Obviously,there'salwaysfearforalotofpeople,butthosethathavecometotheawarenessandacceptedit,notoneperson,andyoucantalktonursesinhospicesthatspendtheirlifearoundthesepeople,notonepersonhaveIevercomeacrossthathasliedthereandsaid"Youknowsomething?PleasegoandfetchmemymahoganyframedMBAcertificate.PleasegofetchmethekeystomyFerrari."No.Whatdotheysay?Whatisthegrandprize?

Thegrandprizeis"PleasegoandfetchmethepeoplethatIcareabout"and"IwishItoldthatIlovedmorethanIdid."Or"PleasegofetchmethepeopleIlove,andIwanttojustwanttobearoundevenifnothingissaid,Icanjustbewiththem."That'sthegrandprize.Mostpeopleavoidthat;missedagaincompletelybecausethey'resobusychasingvalidationthatthey'regoodenoughbecausetheyneedafinancialbankaccounttoproveitintheeyesofothers.Youwereborngoodenough.Getoffthatgame.Onceyou'refreeofthatgame,andyoucanstartrecognizingthattruefulfillmentscomesfrom


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love,joy,happiness,thinkinghappythought,notgettingcaughtupandstressedoutbecauseyourWi-Fisignalisn'tstrongenough.NotgettingcaughtupbecauseMcDonald'sranoutofbarbecuesauce.

Whenyoucomefromaplaceofsurrendertothefactthatwhatisthegrandprize,guesswhat?You'rethenfreetogoandmakemoney,butitdoesn'thaveaholdofyou.Theparadoxisyou'llprobablymakemoreofitbecauseitwon'tmeanasmuch.

Dave:Thatisincrediblydeepandwellsaid.Itmakesmewonder.Yougetsomeprettyheavycriticismfromyourlatestspaceenergyproject.Criticismtriggersthosethingsright?You'remanagingtodosomethingthatisverymuchworldchanging.Atthesametime,howdoyouhandleitinternallywhenyougetthecritics.Wecanallseewhatyousaytothecritics,andthatyou'restickingwithyourscience,buthowdoyouhandlethatinternally?Howdoyoukeepthemfromtakingyououtofthezone,soyougetoutoftheflow-state;yougetbasicallybummedbecausetheyaresayingeffectivelyyouarenotgoodenough,asapartofthecriticism?You'veneverbeencalledacrazypersonhaveyou,Peter?

Peter:Well,Ihopeso.

Dave:Exactly.Tellmewhatgoesoninsideyourmindorinsideyourheartwhensomesays"OhmyGod,IhaveaPhDfromX,Y,andZ,andPeterisanutter,andit'snevergoingtowork,andit'sgoingtokilltheplanet"whatevertheworstthingsthattheysay.Whatdoesthatdotoyou,anddoyouturnthataround?

Peter:Here'salessoninpsychologythatIthinkwouldoffersomevalueandbenefittomanyofthe[inaudible00:58:48][abuse.00:58:48]Peoplesaytome,"Whatisoneofthebiggestgiftsyoucangivetochildren?"Iwouldsaythatthefirstthingisunderstandthedifferencebetweenbeinginternallyandexternallyvalidated.Ifyouwantexternallyvalidated,it'skindofwhatIwassayingearlier,youwillneedotherpeopletoagreewithyourmodeloftheworldinordertofeelgoodaboutit.Thesecondsomebodydisagreeswiththat,youareonadefensivepathtotryandrevalidateyourmodeloftheworldtothem.

That'sanexhaustinggame.I'vealreadysaid,youwantthekeytounhappiness,tryandgetsomebodyelsetoagreewithwhatitisyouwantthemtoagreewith.That'safool'sgame.That'sDisneylandthinking.That'snevergoingtohappen.7billionpeopleonthe


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planet,and7differentwaysoflookingatit...7billiondifferentwaysoflookingatit.It'slike...

Noonewouldgetanyonewiththat.IfIhearsomebodyelse's[poignant00:59:44]pointofview,then...don'tgetmewrong,I'mnotmyopicallygluedtosomethingbecauseit'smyideaandthereforeit'sright.No.IfsomebodypresentsalevelofinsightthatIthinkisvalid,thatis[anareaof00:59:56][inaudible00:59:56]time--I'mnotthesmartestguyintheworld,far,far,farfromit.--then,andIthinkit'svalid,I'llofcourseI'llhavealookatthat.

Butforsomebodytosaythatmymodeloftheworldchallengestheirsandthereforemineiswrong...Imeanifyouhearitfromthatperspective,youseethelunacyofitright?I'mveryandexceptionallyinternallyvalidated.Idon’tneed6,999,999,999otherpeopletoagreewithmeatanylevelformetofeelgoodaboutwhatitisIwanttofeelgoodabout.WhywouldI?IfI'mnothurtinganybodyelse,andaslongasnobodyislessthanbecausetheycrossedmypath,whywouldIsubjectmyselftothegoodopinionofothers,whenIknowthat'sagamenoonecaneverwin?

Now,Idon'tswiminGOOP.G-O-O-P,goodopinionofotherpeople.MostpeoplespendtheirlivesswimminginGOOPbecausethey'reexternallyvalidating.Youwanttogiveagifttoyourkid,getthemtobeinternallyvalidated,nottothepointwherethey'rearrogant.Arroganceisthesamepattern,justtheflipsideofthecoin."I'mindifferenttoyourstupidmodeloftheworldbecausemineisbetter."I'malmostvalidatingminebyprovingyoursiswrong.It'sthesamedeal.

There'snohumilityinthat.Ifsomeone'sgotaPhD,thenforastartIalreadythatthey'dbeenprogrammedtobeamismatcher.Theirentirethesisisbaseduponprovingsomethingthathasn'tbeenprovedyet.They'reconditionedtoit.It'spredictable.

IrememberwhenIwas22,Isaid,"YouknowwhatIget?AsmanyhatewebsitesasBillGates.IknowI'llbedoingwell."It'sjustperspective.Ifyouareinternallyvalidated,notopinionated,notegotistical,againlikeIsaid,that'sjusttheflipsideofthecointobeingexternallyvalidated;that'sacaseofnotgivingacrap.OfcourseIcareaboutotherpeople's...Ifthere'ssomethingvalidthere,thenI'llassessitonmyownterms,andifit'svalid,I'llthankthemfortheirperspective.


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Butforsomeonetocomeoutofleftfieldandtrytojustify...Iseethepatternthey'rewanting.It'sthepatternI'vejustexplained.Ifitcontradictsthem,theirmodeloftheworld,andthey'reexternallyvalidated,theyhavetocontradictwhereIamandtryandgetme...Tryandattackmineandanyoneelse'spointofview.It'showtheygettheirvalidation.It'showtheygettheirsignificance.

Dave:It'sbecausetheyfeelnotgoodenoughlikeyouweresayingearlier.

Peter:It'salwaysthere.It'salwaysthere.Icanthinkofalmost,tobefair,amusementratherthananger.That'snotlookingdownonthem.That'slookingatthepattern,notthem.Imakethedistinctionbetweensomebodyandsomebody'sbehavior.That'sanimportantdistinctiontomake;thatonlyusuallycomesthroughahigherlevelofawareness.Certainly,youcancomeinanywherelowerlevelsofawareness.Icanyoutellyouthat.

I'mveryfortunateandblessedthathavinghadthelevelofdisciplineandself-inquiryonthejourneythat[I’vegone,andI’monly01:02:57]acoupleofstepsaheadofpeoplethathaven'ttakenthatbasedon-experiencethat,again,Isaidearlier,somepeoplehaven'thadthefortunetohaveaccesstothelevelofinsightsIhave.It'snotsomecleverorspecial...

Tounderstandthedistinctionbetweensomebodyandtheirbehaviorisaverypowerfullevelofinsighttobringtothetable.Ifsomebodywantstoattackme,ifI'matthesamelevelofawareness,I'mgoingtopushback.ButifIrecognizethatthispersonishavingabadday;thispersonisfrustrated.ThispersonisobviouslyontheirownjourneyandthankGodI'mnotthembecauseifIwastolivemylifewiththatlevelofstress,holycrapI'm...Imeanalloftheirabilitytostillfunction...Andcomefromaplaceofadmirationfromwherethey'reatratherthanjudgmentandtryingtodefendmyposition.That'safool'sgame.Givemeabreak.

Yeah.AmIgoingtogetattacked?Ihopeso.Doesitcontradicteverybodyelse'smodeloftheworld?Well,itwouldn'tbedoingmuchgoodifitdidn't.

Dave:Iloveit.

Peter:You'renotgoingtosaveworldthinkingwhatevereverybodyelsethinks.


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Dave:That'sawesome.Well,thisistheonlyinterviewI'vehadsofar,Peter,whereIfeelliketheinterviewisalreadymaybeansweredthefinalquestion,butI'mgoingtoaskthefinalquestionsoyoucanjustwrapitupsuccinctly.ThisissomethingI'veaskedallhundredandabouttwentypeopleI'veinterviewedoverthepastfewyears.Givenyourentirelifeexperience,yourtop3recommendationsforpeoplewhowanttoperformbetteratwhateveritisthey'reheretodo,justmost3importantnuggets.

Peter:Everybodyalwayswantsthetopthis,thetopthat,thegoldenthis,thegolden...

OneofthefirstthingsIwouldsuggestisgiveuptheneedtolookforthetop3.Butinherentinthatistolearntoliveinthespaceofaquestion.Mostpeople'smindsaresoconditionedtoabsolutes,andpartofthereasonforthatishistoricallywe'reprogrammedtohaveathirstforanswers.Now,wegrewupoutsideofthesciencesasaspecies,inawaythatforgenerationsandtensofthousandsofyears,wewereintriguedbynaturalphenomena.Whenitrained,wewonderedwhy.Wheredidtheoceangoeverynight?Whydiditcomeback?Whydidthemoonchangeshape?Wehaveanintrinsic,builtintoourDNAthirstforabsoluteanswers.

Theflipsidetothatonapositive,itmakesknowntheconsummateexplorertoreachoutbeyondthatcomfortablegraspandcreatemagicthatnootherspeciesornootherpartofhistorymanhashadtheabilitytodo.Theothersidetothatisthatthemindwants,"Givemethetop3."Ifyouareableto...IfIwastoputthetop1,havingcontradictedwhatI'vejustsaid,Iwouldsayoneofthemostpowerfulthingsthatsomebodycandoistoincreasetheirabilitytohandleuncertainty.

Dave:Ooh,greatanswer.Allright.Yes.

Peter:Inherentinthat,islearntoliveinthespaceofaquestion.ThesecondthingIwouldencouragepeopletolookatistorecognizethatweallcomeatlifethroughadifferentlookingglasses.Youcreateyourmodeloftheworld;Icreatemymodeloftheworld.It'sgoingtobedifferentforyoubecauseyouhaveadifferentwayofinterpretingthroughthe5senses,ontopofadifferentbeliefsystem,adifferentupbringing,adifferentculturalparadigm,and,and,and,and.

Therefore,ifyouagreewithme,thenthere'ssomethingwrong.It'slikethe...If2peopleinbusinessalwaysagree,oneofthemisunnecessary.Learntounderstandthatweallhaveadifferentviewpointandbeokaywiththat.Idon'tneedyoutoagreewith


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metomefeelgoodaboutagreeingwithmyself.Makeadistinctiontherebecauseifyoucandothat,everythingshifts.

Thethirdone,ifIwastosumthatup...Letmehaveathink....Again,don'tgethookedbyyourimmediatecircumstances.Ifyou'rebitchingandcomplainingabouttheartifactsintheroom,inthemuseumrightnow,you'reeithergoingtogetthrownout,oryou'regoingtobemoreannoyedthatyou'renevergoingtochangethem.Makeaconsciouschoicetowalkintoadifferentroom.Chooseadifferentvector.Youknowsomething?Icaneithercomplainaboutmycircumstances,orIcanchoosetheonesthatIwant.Getinspired.Tapintothe...

Makesenseofwhoyouarethatwasbornamiracle.400millionto1andyoushowup.Thatwasnoaccident.Youchosetobehereforabetterreasonthanworking9to5inajobyoudon'tlikeforsomebodyyou'dneverprobablyunderstoodforawagethatislessthanwhatyou'reworth,toretireat65onsomethingthatyou'vethoughtmightbehappinesstofindoutitisn't.Giveitup.Followyourpassion.Followyourblissanddon'tletanybodytellyouthatyoucan'tdoit.

Dave:Peter,amazinginterview.ThankyoufortakingthetimetobeonBulletproofExecutiveRadio.Whereshouldpeoplegotolearnmoreaboutwhatyou'redoing,yourbooks,givemeyourURL,Twitter,whereverelseyouwouldlikepeopletoknowmoreaboutwhatyou'redoing?

Peter:Thankyou.Theywantmywebsiteobviously,petersage.com

It'shardtohideapublicprofilethesedays,soifyouGoogle"PeterSage",I'mprettymucheverywherefortherightorwrongreasonI'msure,dependingonifyou’vegotaPhDornot.Twitter,PeterSage007.Pleasedon'ttweetawayorretweetthisor...Mypassionhereistogetthemessageoutthatcanhopefullyraise...Evenifit'sonethingpeoplecantakeoutofthisinterviewthattheycanmakeadifferencewith.Knowingandnotdoingisthesameasnotknowing.Mostpeoplearewellreadandknownothing,orthey'reinspiredinthemoment,butthengetcaughtupintryingtodotoomuch.Thereasonisthattheemotionalrootisusuallyoverwhelmed;leadstoconfusionwhichleadstoinaction,whichmeansthey’velearnedsomuch,theydonothing.

Takeonethingoutofthisinterviewandgoandhelpsomebodyelsewithit.Gobetheexample.Goshareit.Ifyouwantaccesstomoreofmywork,thenI'mobviouslyon


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YouTube.PeterSage.comismymainresource.Ithasbeenapleasuretospendthistimewithyouandhavethischatandhopefully,addsomevaluetosomepeoplethatarewatchingorlistening.

Dave:Youabsolutelydid.ThanksPeter.

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