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IN THE CIRCUIT COURT OF THE THIRTEENTH JUDICIAL CIRCUITIN THE STATE OF FLORIDA, IN AND FOR HILLSBOROUGH COUNTYCIVIL DIVISION

NEIL J . GILLESPIE,P l a i n t i f f , Case No. 05-7205- v s - Div i s i on : "H"

BARKER RODEMS COOK, P.A. ,a F l o r i d a co r po r a t i on ; WILLIAM J . COOK,Defendan t s .

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TRANSCRIPT OF PROCEEDINGS

BEFORE: HONOR BLE CLAUDIACi r cu i t Judge R ISOM

TAKEN AT: George EdgecombIn ChambersTampa, Flo r i daCour thouse

DATE TIME: Februa ry 1,9:06 a .m. 2007

REPORTED BY: Mary E l i z abe t hNotary Pub l i c813-229-8225

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APPEARANCESFor t h e P l a i n t i f f :

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For t h e Defendan t s :RYAN CHRISTOPHER RODEMS ESQUIREarker Rodems ook400 Nor th Ash ley D r iv e S u i t e 2100Tampa F l o r i d a 33602

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P R O C E E DIN G STHE COURT: G i l l e s p i e ; you guys a r e p r o b a b l y

go i ng to t a k e more t ha n 15 -- more t h a n 5 m i n u t e s .So t h e r e s nobody he r e f o r E l e c r a and Wel l s Fargo .Everybody e l s e i s c a n c e l e d .

So - - my j u d i c i a l a s s i s t a n t s a i d t h a t our 9:30lS c a n c e l e d , which i s a 45-m i nu t e h e a r i n g .

Oh, yeah . Okay. So w e l l start w i t h yoursand t hen a t 9:15 , w e l l b r e a k .

You guys a r e G i l l e s p i e , r i g h t ?MR GILLESPIE: Yes, ma am.T H E COURT: All r i g h t . W e l l b r e a k and do

anybody e l s e that s a p p e a r i n g t e l e p h o n i c a l l yb e c a u s e w e v e go t a little c u s h i o n t h e r e a t 9 :30 .

Okay. Mr. G i l l e s p i e .MR GILLESPIE: Good morn ing , Your Honor .THE COURT: Good morning .You have e v i d e n t l y j u s t droppe d o f f someth ing

new t h i s morning t h a t I h a v e n t had a c ha nc e tol o o k a t .

MR GILLESPIE: That does no t p e r t a i n tot o d a y .

THE COURT: I t does no t p e r t a i n to t oda y?MR GILLESPIE: No. T h a t s a c o u r t e s y copy of

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And in d o i n g so -- g o s h , wha t is t h e name o ft h e c a s e ? I f y o u l l l o o k a t t h e c a s e s , there s ac a s e o u t o f So u t h F l o r i d a , p r o b a b l y a b o u t t e n y e a r sag o , in t h a t t ime f r ame , t h a t s t a n d s f o r t h ep r o p o s i t i o n t h a t political c o n t r i b u t i o n s in and o ft h e m s e l v e s a r e n o t d i s q u a l i f y i n g . But I mean ifyou want to a l l e g e o t h e r e x t r a judicial t y p e o ft h i n g s , y o u r e welcome to do so .

MR GILLESPIE: Thank you , Your H o n o r .MR RODEMS: I f I may I h av e b r o u g h t c o p i e s

o f b o t h o f t h o s e c a s e s .THE COURT: What i s it? It s n o t Toys R Us

b u t it s s o m e t h i n g l i k e t h a t , isn t it?MR RODEMS: Mac enzie ve r su s Super Kids

Barga in S toreTHE COURT: T h a t s S u p e r K id s B a r g a i n S t o r e .

A l l I c o u l d t h i n k o f was Toys R Us. I knew itw a s n t Toys R Us.

MR RODEMS: It s a F l o r i d a Su p reme C o u r t c a s ea c t i o n . I ll be happy to g i v e Mr. G i l l e s p i e ac o p y .

THE COURT: Al l r i g h t .MR RODEMS: T h a t s , f o r t h e r e c o r d , 565 So .2 d

1 3 3 2 .And I m a l s o gOlOg t o g i v e him Nathanson


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ve r s u s Korv ick K-O-R-V-I-C-K, which is 577 S o . 2 d943 , which a l s o a d d r e s s e s t h a t t o p i c .

THE COURT: Yeah.And in p o i n t in f a c t , ev en t h e f e l l o w t h a t I

u l t i m a t e l y was a b l e t o p r e v a i l o v e r f o r when I ranf o r o f f i c e 17 y e a r s ago , I was o n l y d i s q u a l i f i e df rom -- by p r e c e d i n g o v e r h i s c a s e s f o r t h r e ey e a r s , and t h en o n ly if he wanted me t o . nd lnt h a t i n s t a n c e he d i d n t want me to d i s q u a l i f ym y s e l f b e c a u s e we had ru n a v e r y c l e a n c a m p a i g n andnone o f us had t a k e n any p e r s o n a l s h o t s a t t h eother s c h a r a c t e r o r f a m i l y o r a n y t h i n g , so

Anyway do t h e r e s e a r c h and if you want tofile a t r u e mo t i o n to d i s q u a l i f y , t h e n I ll r u l eupon it on an e x p e d i t i o u s man n er .

MR GILLESPIE: A l l r i g h t . Ju d g e , c a n Is p eak ?

THE COURT: Yes.MR GILLESPIE: Thank you .I m n o t l o o k i n g to d i s q u a l i f y you . I had r e a d

t h e d i s c l o s u r e on y o u r w e b s i t e and t h a t p ro m p t e d mejust to do a little c h e c k i n g w i t h t h e c a m p a i g nc o n t r i b u t i o n s . I found a c o u p l e t h a t w ere inq u e s t i o n . I m aw are o f t h e l aw on that. So I mn o t a s k i n g you to be d i s q u a l i f i e d on that.


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I j u s t want to make s u r e , you know, we g e t afair trial he re , a fair h e a r i n g . T h a t was myc o n c e r n .

And I 'm more co n ce r n ed w i t h p a r t 2 , and nowt h a t w e ' v e a d d r e s s e d t h e i s s u e s 1n p a r t 1 . It hasto do w i th Mr. Rodems ' s -- which I b e l i e v e i s g o i n gto be h i s i n t e n t to b r i n g up some t h i n g s f rom t h ep a s t . And I h av e a copy o f this t e l e p h o n e call tome. It s a copy f o r you . Th i s i s f o r you , J u d g e .

And if you c o u l d t u r n -- by t h e way, this c a l lwas a call t h a t Mr. Rodems p l a c e d and left on myc e l l p h o n e a n s w e r i n g s e r v i c e on December t h e 1 3 t h .And if you t u r n to p ag e 7, that s w h ere he makesh i s r e f e r e n c e .

And it goes -- t h e s e c o n d p a r a g r a p h , t h es eco n d s e n t e n c e ; and he s ay s -- this is Mr. Rodems.

THE COURT: Excuse me. O ff t h e r e c o r d .( O f f - t h e - r e c o r d d i s c u s s i o n . )THE COURT: Okay. Back on t h e r e c o r d .MR GILLESPIE: So a t t h a t t i m e Mr. Rodems

s a y s , And you a l s o f i l e d c l a i m s a g a i n s t t h e j udge1n P i n e l l a s C o u n ty .

And t h e n he g o e s , I s u s p e c t y o u ' r e p r o b a b l yd r a f t i n g a c o m p l a i n t a g a i n s t me.

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t h a t he left t h i s was j u s t ad hominem a b u s i v e r a n ti s t h e o n l y way to d e s c r i b e it b u t I m c o n c e r n e d t h a t he i s g o i n g to want to b r i n g this -- make t h i sp a r t o f t h e trial and o r p a r t o f t h ec o n t r o v e r s y . And I went t h r o u g h h e r e d e s c r i b i n gwhat h e s r e f e rr in g to in t h i s phone call.

And in f a c t , I have t h e s u p p o r t o f G o v e rn o rBush on it. That would be E x h i b i t J I m s o r r y .E x h i b i t 2 i s a t e l e p h o n e mes s ag e f rom t h eG o v e r n o r s o f f i c e on t h a t . And t h e n E x h i b i t 3 lS aletter f rom t he G o v ern o r h i m s e l f .

So and t h i s t h i s m a t t e r d a t e s b ack to1 9 9 8 , 1 9 9 9 . So h e s r e a l l y g o in g way b ack in t h eh i s t o r y to drudge up r e a l l y what i s a r e d h e r r i n g . And I m c o n c e r n e d t h a t it d o e s n t p r e j u d i c e t h eC o u r t b e c a u se t h e r e s been enough p r o b l em in t h i sc a s e a l r e a d y , and I j u s t want t o a v o i d t h a t a t t h eo u t s e t ; o t h e r w i s e , I am v e r y c o n f i d e n t i n t h e Cour tb e i n g a b l e to h an d le t h i s fairly.

THE COURT: Okay. So your c o n c e r n a b o u t mep r e s i d i n g o v e r t he c a se b e c a u s e o f a transcript youf i l e d w i t h t he C o u r t ?

MR GILLESPIE: Becau s e o f this m a t t e r t h a tMr. Rodems i s r e f e r r i n g to which i n v o l v e d ane l e c t i o n c o m p l a i n t t o t h e F l o r i d a E l e c t i o n s


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C o m m is s io n a b o u t a j u d g e in P i n e l l a s C o u n t y in1999 .

THE COURT: Okay. So b u t o b v i o u s l y Iw o u l d n ' t know a b o u t this u n l e s s you filed it w i t ht h e C o u r t , w h i ch you have .

MR. GILLESPIE: It s b een filed. I meanb e f o r e

THE COURT: So b u t wh a t d o e s it h av eto do w i t h w i t h G i l l e s p i e v e r s u sB a r k e r Rodems Cook?

MR. GILLESPIE: It has n o t h i n g to do w i t h it.It s h o u l d h av e n o t h i n g t o do w i t h it. Mr. Rodemsf o r w h a t e v e r r e a s o n , is b r i n g i n g it i n t o t h e c a s e .

In f a c t , in h i s d i sc o v e r y h e ' s a s k e d a b o u tit In h i s d i s c o v e r y and t h a t wo u ld b e i n t h e m o t i o nh e r e , page 3 .

THE COURT: Oh you g u y s a r e co m in g b a c k ont h e 5 t h ?

MR. RODEMS: Yes ma 'am.THE COURT: Y o u ' r e co mi n g b a c k on t h e 5 t h ?Oh so we d o n ' t have to wade t h r o u g h

e v e r y t h i n g t o d a y and make s u r e e v e r y t h i n g lSa d d r e s s e d .

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t h r e e h o u r s .MR GILLESPIE: T h ree h o u r s .MR. RODEMS: T h ere a r e p r o b a b l y if I r e c a l l

c o r r e c t l y e i g h t o r n i n e different m o t i o n s t h a tn eed to be a d d r e s s e d .

THE COURT: A l l r i g h t . Then f o r t o d a y t h e n wecan do it in f i v e m i n u t e s . In a n u t s h e l l , w h a t st h e s e c o n d h a l f o f t h e mo t i o n you s e t f o r t o d ay ?

MR. GILLESPIE: J u s t to let t h e C o u r t knowt h a t Mr. Rodems i s g o i n g to be o r a t t e m p t s i sa t t e m p t i n g to blow t h i s m a t t e r o f an e l e c t i o ncamp a i g n c o m p l a i n t f rom 1 9 9 9 , b r i n g t h a t i n t o t h i sc o m p l a i n t . And I want to j u s t make s u r e t h a t youd o n t h av e a p ro b l em w i t h it.

B e c a u s e a s a jU d g e , I would t h i n k t h a t t h a tw o u ld be s o m e t h i n g t h a t you would be sensitivea b o u t , ev en t h o u g h it was r e s o l v e d I t h i n k fairlyf o r all parties.

THE COURT: ( P au s e . )Okay. Wel l , if you d o n t want me t o be aware

o f t h i n g s t h a t has been s a i d exjudicially I meano u t s i d e t h e c o u r t r o o m s e t t i n g , you d o n t h a v e tofile transcripts l i k e this. If you do w an t me t obe aw are o f them, which e v i d e n t l y this o n e you d i dwant me to be aware o f it j u s t as k them to h o ld .


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So I mean you f i l e d t h i s . As f a r a s I mc onc e rne d i s t h i s go ing to be a nonJ ury o r aJ u r y trial?

MR GILLESPIE: This one i s g o i n g to j u r ytrial

THE COURT: A Ju ry trial?So e s p e c i a l l y in a j u r y trial s i t u a t i o n , I

d o n t se e how it would be r e l e v a n t b e c a u s e it l ooksl i k e t he comments made by c o u n s e l had more to dow i th your he was s p e c u l a t i n g on why you mighthave d i f f i c u l t y f i n d i n g new c o u n s e l . And I d o n ts e e t h a t t h a t would be s o me th in g t h a t would bep l a c e d b e f o r e a j u r y b e c a u se n o r m a l l y ana t t o r n e y wel l , I j u s t d o n t s e e how it would ber e l e v a n t to any i s s u e b e f o r e a j u r y .

MR GILLESPIE: And it s h o u l d n t be r e l e v a n t ,Judge .

THE COURT: Yeah.MR GILLESPIE: I a gre e w i th you. But

Mr. Rodems i s making it r e l e v a n t .And I m j u s t going to s p e c u l a t e f o r a moment

t h a t y o u r e no t r e a l f a m i l i a r w i th t h i s c a s e a tt h i s p o i n t .

THE COURT: Well , I mean I I r e v i e we v e r y t h i n g t h a t you t h a t you file and Mr. Rodems


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files, b u t In t e rms o f -- I r e v i e w t h em i n t e r m s o fdo I need to do someth ing t o d a y on this. And l i k eI s a i d w i t h t he one where you f i l e d t h e n o t i c e o fconflict, it w a s n t i n t he f o r m a t where I n e e d e d toa c t upon it.

MR GILLESPIE: In o t h e r w o r d s , J u d g e , a r e youaware t h a t t h i s c a s e has been t r a n s f e r r e d f roma n o t h e r judge?

THE COURT: Yes I do know t h a t b e c a u s e t hec l e r k hand d e l i v e r s them w h e n e v e r t h e y g e tr e a s s i g n e d t o a n o t h e r d i v i s i o n .

MR GILLESPIE: And t h e r e a s o n t h a t it wasr e a s s i g n e d -

MR RODEMS: Your Honor a t this p o i n t Io b j e c t . W e r e g o i n g f a r a f i e l d o f wha t t h e mot ionon t h e t a b l e is. His s p e c u l a t i o n s a b o u t wha t I maybe d o i n g o r what may happen , it s n o t n e c e s s a r y f o rr e s o l v in g t o d a y s m a t te r s . And I really o b j e c t tohim g i v i n g h i s s p i n on what he t h i n k s lS h a p p e n i n gIn t h i s c a s e so f a r .

THE COURT: Al l r i g h t . At this p o i n t , it i s9: 15. So I m g o i n g to t a k e a b r e a k f rom y o u r c a s eand g e t t h e 9 :15 -- t h e t e l e p h o n i c s d o n e .

( R e c e s s e d f rom 9 :19 a .m . until 9 : 2 8 a . m . )THE COURT: A l l r i g h t . So back t o you guys .


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What was t h e nar row t h i n g we were d o i n g t o d a ys i n c e y o u r e coming b a c k f o r s e v e r a l h o u r s on t h e5 t h ?

MR. GILLESPIE: J u d g e , wh a t I w a n t e d t o knowwas a b o u t t h e d e f e n d a n t Mr. C o o k s 150 paym ent tot h e C o u r t s husband , and what o t h e r r e l a t i o n s h i p hem i g h t h a v e .

THE COURT: e we d o n t have any s o c i a l ,b u s i n e s s o r b l o o d r e l a t i o n s h i p w i t h Mr. Cook.Mr. Cook, a s f a r as I know, ba s e d upon wha t yous a i d , I v e n e v e r even r e a d a list o f my h u s b a n d sc o n t r i b u t o r s . Based upon your i n f o r m a t i o n I assumeMr. Cook gave my h u s b a n d a political c o n t r i b u t i o nwhen he r a n f o r judge u n s u c c e s s f u l l y a few y e a r sago .

MR. GILLESPIE: I s e e .THE COURT: But we d o n t have any b u s i n e s s ,

s o c i a l or f a m i l y r e l a t i o n s h i p w i t h Mr. Cook.MR. GILLESPIE: Thank you, Your Honor .THE COURT: Uh-huh.MR. GILLESPIE: And I j u s t want t h e r e c o r d to

reflect t h a t I m r e p r e s e n t i n g m y s e l f t o d a y o u t o fn e c e s s i t y . I would much r a t h e r h a v e an a t t o r n e yh e r e . And I m still work ing on that And I mayh e a r so m e t h i n g t oda y o r t omor row.


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THE COURT: Okay. A l l r i g h t . So i s t h e r ea n y t h i n g e l s e you needed?

MR GILLESPIE: The o n l y o t h e r m a t te r would beMr. Rodems a t t e m p t t o b r i n g i n t o this h e a r i n g t h i sm a t t e r f rom 1998 , 1999 , and w h e t h e r o r n o t he ll bep e r m i t t e d to do t h a t , and if t h a t w o u ld affect t h eC o u r t s v iew o f me.

THE COURT: Okay. L i k e I s a i d , if you d o n twant to b r i n g in t h i s e x t r a n e o u s stuff, d o n t filetranscripts o f it. And it would n o t -- if it s aj u r y trial, t h e e v i d e n c e w i l l be w h a t s l e g a l l ya d m i s s i b l e and co mp e ten t . And just b a s e d uponr e v i e w i n g t h a t t r a n s c r i p t , I d o n t I d o n t seea t this moment how it would be l e g a l l y a d m i s s i b l eo r c o m p e t e n t . So, no, it w o u l d n t have any e f f e c t .

J u d g e s h e a r stuff all t h e t i m e that s n o tr e l e v a n t and t h e y and t h e y d i s r e g a r d it. Fori n s t a n c e , l i k e in p r e s i d i n g o v e r a mo t io n tos u p p r e s s an illegal s e a r c h o r an illegalc o n f e s s i o n , we p r e s i d e o v e r it, r u l e on it, andt h e n we d i s r e g a r d it in t e r ms o f what g o e s on lateron in t h e c a s e . So j u d g e s , i n c l u d i n g m y s e l f , a r ep e r f e c t l y c a p a b l e o f d i s r e g a r d i n g irrelevant o ri n c o m p e t e n t i n f o r m a t i o n when p r e s i J i n g o v e r am a t t e r .


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c o n s i d e r i n g r e p r e s e n t i n g you?MR. GILLESPIE: I v e b een ln t o u c h w i t h th e

H i l l s b o r o u g h C o u n t y Bar A s s o c i a t i o n .THE COURT: Oh t h e l a w y e r referral?MR. GILLESPIE: Lawyer R e f e r r a l S e r v i c e .THE COURT: Okay.MR. GILLESPIE: And I ve b e e n getting what

w o u l d call -- w e l l , h e r e s t h e p r o b l e m a s I s e e it.The l a w y e r s a r e l o o k i n g f o r c a s e s that a r e w o r t hs e v e r a l h u n d r e d t h o u s a n d dollars i n d a m a g e s , andthis c a s e is b e lo w that. So i t s -- a part o f itis a f i n a n c i a l i s s u e .

THE COURT: W el l , it must be a t least S 1 5 , 0 0 0o r e l s e you w o u l d n t be in circuit c o u r t .

MR. GILLESPIE: Yes .And t h e o t h e r m a t te r is if if t h e -- t h e

B ar t h e referral s e r v i c e h a s a b o u t e x h a u s t e dwh a t t h e y can do . y n e x t move w o u l d b e t o p l a c ean ad i n t h e n e w s p a p e r and t r y an d solicit c o u n s e lthat way.

THE COURT: W el l , you c o u l d try Pinellas,P i n e l l a s isn t t h a t f a r away , if t h e y h a v e areferral s e r v i c e .

MR. GILLESPIE: Yes that s what H i l l s b o r o u g hs u g g e s t e d .

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ww e b s ~ t e [1] 6 21welcome [1] 5 8w e l l [7] 10 20 11 14 11 24

16 A 16 13 16 21 17 21Wells [1] 3 4went [1] 8 5were [3] 4 8 6 2 3 13 1what [ 18 ] 5 1 5 12 8 / 6 8 1 49 8 12 15 12 16 12 17 12 19

13 1 13 4 13 6 13 10 14 21]6 /7 16 18 16 24 17 25

w h a t s [ 2 ] 1 0 17 14 11whatever [1] 9 13when [3] 6 5 13 14 14 24whenever [1] 12 10where [3] 7 13 12 3 12 4whether [1] 14 /

w h ~ c h [1 ] 3/7 4 12 4 24 b 16 2 7 G 8 24 9 5 10 24 15 5

whole [1] 7 2why [1] 11 /10

w ~ l l [1] 14 11WILLI M [1] 1 10

w ~ t h o u t [2] 7 25 15 21words [ ] 12 / 6w o r k ~ n g [1] 13 24worth [1] 16 9would [17] 4 13 8 8 9 15 10 151U 16 10 16 11 8 11 12 11 12]1 14 13 23 14 3 14 6 14 10

14 14 16 8 16 18wo uldn t [ 4] 9/4 1 4 5 1 6 / ] 417 14yyeah [3] 3/8 6 3 11 18y ea rs [4] 5 3 6 6 6 8 13 14Yes [1 ] 3 11 4 2 6 18 9 19

12 9 15 12 15 12 16 15 16 2417 2

you [61]y o u l l [1] 5 2y o u r e [5] S 8 7 23 9 20 11 22

U / 2your [13] 3 /J6 4/4 5 / Q 6 21

H 20 Ll 10 12 14 12 22 13 12l ~ J ~ 15 23 1 122

yours [1] 3 / 8

transcript judge isom 9.06am feb 01 2007 conflict

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