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through suffering, despair?

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Andromache and Astyanax

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Agenda

• Question Update• Critically Thinking Universality/Particularity

• Trojan Women• Introduction to Play

• Pity, Fear, Catharsis in…• Persians, Trojan Women

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Question Update

Thinking Universality/Particularity Critically

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Does tragedy change…

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From place to place?From time to time?

From culture to culture?

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Does Tragedy Change?Critical thinking

• What’s it for?• teach me how to think, not how

to pass• in terms of techniques taught

• understanding / interacting with problems

• relatable because comparable

• What’s it involve?• read in between the lines

• interpretive skills• questions about motivation

• makes the particular universal

Tragedy as universal/particular

• Question’s point?• universal: will show

connections between cultures• ethical definitions – good

thought experiment• emotional/intellectual

disconnect

• What’s needed?• What baseline need-to-knows?• What appropriate approaches?• Anything else?

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Trojan Women

Introduction to Play

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Play Facts

• Date, historical backdrop – 415 BCE• conquest of Melos• Sicilian Expedition

• Tetralogy1. Alexander.2. Palamedes.3. Trojan Women.4. Sisyphus (satyr play).

• Speaking Roles• Poseidon• Athena• Hecuba• Chorus• Talthybius• Cassandra• Andromache• Menelaus• Helen

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Analysis• Prologue (Signet pp. 460 ff.)

• Poseidon, Athena

• Lyric monody (464)• Hecuba

• Parodos (465)• Choruses in dialogue (kommos)

• Episode 1 (468)• Talthybius, Hecuba• Cassandra (lyric monody –

frenzied dochmiacs)• Cassandra, Hecuba• Hecuba

• Stasimon 1 (480)• Trojan Horse

• Episode 2 (481)• Lyric dialogue (kommos): Hecuba,

Andromache, Astyanax (silent)

• Episode 2 cont. (483)• Spoken: Hecuba, Andromache• Talthybius, Andromache,

Astyanax (silent)

• Stasimon 2 (490)• 1st destruction of Troy

• Episode 3 (493)• Menelaus, Hecuba• Helen, Menelaus, Hecuba• Agon: Helen, Hecuba

• Stasimon 3 (501)• Women’s lament

• Exodos (503)• Talthybius, Hecuba• Lyric dialogue (kommos):

Hecuba, Chorus

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Pity, Fear, Catharsis in…

Persians, Trojan Women

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Your Responses. . .

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