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Within catches up with Rene D La Muerte on "Out In The Dark" the latest from The Brains and 13 years and the new direction.

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  • RENE D LA MUERTE

  • J.B: This is J.B from Within Punk Zine and I am sitting here with the Montreal legendary Rene D La Muerte. How goes it my friend?RENE: Its going good, got out of practice so you know its mostly just playing having some drinks and fine tuning some things, having fun, you knowJ.B: So lets get into it you are releasing Out In The Dark on October 30th which conventionally is known as Devils Night but actually you play at Midnight which would be technically known in Pagan Rituals as Samhain. And more of a weird anomaly the fact that this release cele-brates your 13 years of The Brains, do you think these things through or is it just black magic of some sort? RENE: (Laughing) Well you know we always like to do something for Halloween but for this one its different it just so happens to be perfectly in line and the album actually was ready on December 14th of last year. And we were just holding onto it to get it mastered by the right person and we found the right person so here it is ready to go on you know.J.B: The cover art on this one you have the same logo as The Monster Within but its album art is in the shadows and a really dark feel. Kind of like the feel of the album?RENE: It really has to do with the Brains going back to the roots you know way back with No Brain No Pain it has that same type of energy you know. So with the last couple of albums its been about movies and Horror and stuff this one is more about human nature. It goes a little bit more in depth like Out In the Dark it can be viewed in different ways you know it can be represented by something dark, something always lurking you know? Or it can be that youre not feeling really well in your head, you know? I think all of us have that theres always something

    WITHIN PUNK ZINEINTERVIEW WITH

    THE BRAINS / RENE D LA MUERTE BY PHONE

    OCTOBER 21 ,2015COURTESY OF

    MELANIE KAYE PR

    COLIN THE DEAD / PHOTO MIKE MARSHALL

  • COLIN THE DEAD / PHOTO MIKE MARSHALL

  • thats in there that holds us back or something. Theres the song Need you now that talks about alcohol addiction and some people have that you know so there are some real monsters out there lurking you know, in the dark.J.B: The Monster Within I felt started to touch base on that subjectively but was hidden more by the Horror theme of the inspiration of Lovecraft and Rituals and is this one different, more personal?RENE: It is. Every album has to do with where we live or life on the road and pretty much how we are, but this time we really wanted to make it sound the best. Ive been producing this band now for thirteen years and all the recordings and on this one after 13 years you can hear how far we have come and how much dedication we have in it. J.B: The Bear in the new clip for the video Out In The Dark whats that about?RENE: Thats what we wanted to go to you know for us. The Brains have been working for thirteen years nonstop trying to be self-sufficient in a way you know. Why record it that way in the beginning? Well because there was nobody doing it back then and we built on that and did the studio you know, then Collin comes into the band and now he does all the merch and design and stuff. And then we have Phil which has been the drummer for a while now - Phil The Beast - and hes the one taking care of video and web and all the internet social media stuff. And also the new video that is coming out for Out In The Dark was by Wolfgang Animation and Bis Films and actually has my daughter in it actually.J.B: Its not controversial or anything like Take What I Want was and getting banned by Much Music?RENE: Well you know heres the whole thing on that we always love to get a reaction from the people you know? Thats the first thing we try to do is get the reaction

  • thats in there that holds us back or something. Theres the song Need you now that talks about alcohol addiction and some people have that you know so there are some real monsters out there lurking you know, in the dark.J.B: The Monster Within I felt started to touch base on that subjectively but was hidden more by the Horror theme of the inspiration of Lovecraft and Rituals and is this one different, more personal?RENE: It is. Every album has to do with where we live or life on the road and pretty much how we are, but this time we really wanted to make it sound the best. Ive been producing this band now for thirteen years and all the recordings and on this one after 13 years you can hear how far we have come and how much dedication we have in it. J.B: The Bear in the new clip for the video Out In The Dark whats that about?RENE: Thats what we wanted to go to you know for us. The Brains have been working for thirteen years nonstop trying to be self-sufficient in a way you know. Why record it that way in the beginning? Well because there was nobody doing it back then and we built on that and did the studio you know, then Collin comes into the band and now he does all the merch and design and stuff. And then we have Phil which has been the drummer for a while now - Phil The Beast - and hes the one taking care of video and web and all the internet social media stuff. And also the new video that is coming out for Out In The Dark was by Wolfgang Animation and Bis Films and actually has my daughter in it actually.J.B: Its not controversial or anything like Take What I Want was and getting banned by Much Music?RENE: Well you know heres the whole thing on that we always love to get a reaction from the people you know? Thats the first thing we try to do is get the reaction

    PHIL THE BEAST / PHOTO MIKE MARSHALL

  • and thats what we want The Brains to be sort of known for you know. So in that tone when we did Take What I Want we wanted to show violence but not violence against women we wanted to show violence that we close our eyes to you know? Theres some serious violence towards women right now even as it was back in the day like the fifties you know. If you see a guy that is taking a girl that is free to do whatever she wants you know and this girl is super sexy super awesome and smart and just trying to hangout and then she gets taken by this guy and killed you know, then the same thing you have this girl working at a punk bar and goes outside for a smoke and gets killed you know. Then you have the last one that is a woman just hanging out with friends doing her thing - which is actually my longtime girlfriend - and she ends up killed by this guy also. So what Im trying to push on this subject is we need to not close our eyes to this violence that happens against women and change that and in the end of the video you see that woman get up with evil in her eyes and maybe shes going to get some vengeance to the person who did this to her for a sort of conviction. And most of all its really about getting that reaction and how people respond to it just like the video Screaming which about people getting killed. That video was shot about rich people paying people to get killed and watching it and its called snuff movies. So when you see the video for Take What I Want you see how people are and that is what I wanted to portray in that and from there we can move forward and go positive on it. On this whole new video you are really going to see where we are going with this and what this whole album is about human behaviour and the monsters you know Out In The Dark.

    J.B: Obviously what I heard on this album was homage to your roots but also faster and more refined. So lets talk about that familiar sound that is The Brains and by that I mean your Gretsch! So is it a 64 Chet Atkins Tennessean or is it a Chet remake of the Setzer model?RENE: I got that Gretsch when I was seventeen and I really like the Stray Cats and there was nowhere to really get a Gretsch around here at that time. So I went to this bar with some fake ID from the university - this girl made it for me that was in University. So I get to this bar and this band is playing all these Stray Cats except for Rock This Town so I asked them to play it over and

    After 13 years you can hear how far we have come and how much dedication we have in it.

  • over again. So finally the singer is like listen we will only play it if you get up on stage and sing it. And I was so scared and was like Oh My God and I got up on stage no tattoos or anything, this young seventeen year old kid and let it go, I noticed all these people were up on the tables dancing and stuff and the guy said I had a really great voice. So I asked him where I could get a Gretsch and he said I have two and I was like wow, two? So he said listen for you I will sell you one for $800. And for a seventeen year old with a score like that because they are way more expensive now I thought that was the coolest thing ever and I did whatever jobs I could do to pay for it like painting apartments and washing dishes. When I went to see it he pulled out a Chet Akins and a 63 65 anniversary edition, charcoal - with my eyes lighting up and from that day on that is the one Ive been using for all the recordings. So since then I have bought another one that has been modified and twerked out with pickups and custom knobs but that is a different model - the Electromatic, which I paint-ed flat black to be a clone of the original, its amazing though how much that guitar is pretty much the heart of the Brains you know? I also have this Vulture pedal that is like the Roland 301 pre amp section so he started making a pedal that had a these crazy pre amps. If you look in the middle of the system of the Stray Cats setup he has this old Fender Bass man Amp and this Space Echo 301 so he kept his distortion and overdrive from the pre amp section of the Roland. So this guy made a pedal of it at Nocturne and he came up to me a couple of years ago was like hey I like your sound and everything want to try th