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Taking Legal Fic-onalism SERIOUSLY David Gawthorne ASLP Conference 2013, Sydney

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Taking  Legal  Fic-onalism  SERIOUSLY  

David  Gawthorne  ASLP  Conference  2013,  Sydney  

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OVERVIEW  

1.  Mo-va-ng  Legal  Fic-onalism  

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OVERVIEW  

1.  Mo-va-ng  Legal  Fic-onalism  

2.  Three  Grades  of  Legal  Fic-onalism  

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OVERVIEW  

1.  Mo-va-ng  Legal  Fic-onalism  

2.  Three  Grades  of  Legal  Fic-onalism  

3.  Rehabilita-ng  Legal  Formalism  

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1.  Mo-va-ng  Legal  Fic-onalism  

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1.  Mo-va-ng  Legal  Fic-onalism  

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•  Fic-onalism  in  ontology  –  Field  

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1.  Mo-va-ng  Legal  Fic-onalism  

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•  Fic-onalism  in  ontology  –  Field  

•  Legal  norms  PLUS  legal  things,  i.e.  en--es,  states  of  affairs,  events.    

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1.  Mo-va-ng  Legal  Fic-onalism  

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1.  Mo-va-ng  Legal  Fic-onalism  

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1.  Mo-va-ng  Legal  Fic-onalism  

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•  Fic-onalism  in  ontology  –  Field  

•  Legal  norms  PLUS  legal  things,  i.e.  en--es,  states  of  affairs,  events.  

•  From  a  fic-onalist  ontology  to  uniform  legal  fic-onalism,  i.e.  incorpora-ng  primi-ve  norma-ve  “facts”.  

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1.  Mo-va-ng  Legal  Fic-onalism  

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•  Fic-onalism  in  ontology  –  Field  

•  Legal  norms  PLUS  legal  things,  i.e.  en--es,  states  of  affairs,  events.  

•  From  a  fic-onalist  ontology  to  uniform  legal  fic-onalism,  i.e.  incorpora-ng  primi-ve  norma-ve  “facts”.  

•  Fic-onal  internal/external  point  of  view  

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2.  Three  Grades  of  Legal  Fic-onalism  

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2.  Three  Grades  of  Legal  Fic-onalism  

•  Weak  Legal  Fic-onalism  –  Legal  reasoning  performs  an  ideological  func-on  of  adver-sing  ways  the  state  validates  itself  (Spector)  

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2.  Three  Grades  of  Legal  Fic-onalism  

•  Weak  Legal  Fic-onalism  –  Legal  reasoning  performs  an  ideological  func-on  of  adver-sing  ways  the  state  validates  itself  (Spector)  

•  Strong  Legal  Fic-onalism  –  Respect  for  the  integrity  of  a  fic-onal  discourse  of  law  yields  reasons  for  deciding  independent  of  moral  &  poli-cal  reasons  

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2.  Three  Grades  of  Legal  Fic-onalism  

•  Weak  Legal  Fic-onalism  –  Legal  reasoning  performs  an  ideological  func-on  of  adver-sing  ways  the  state  validates  itself  (Spector)  

•  Strong  Legal  Fic-onalism  –  Respect  for  the  integrity  of  a  fic-onal  discourse  of  law  yields  reasons  for  deciding  independent  of  moral  &  poli-cal  reasons  

•  Moderate  Legal  Fic-onalism  –  A  fic-onal  basic  norm  validates  a  hierarchy  of  legal  norms  (Kelsen)  

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2.  Three  Grades  of  Legal  Fic-onalism  

Dworkin’s  chain  novel  analogy  

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FIT  THEORY  

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2.  Three  Grades  of  Legal  Fic-onalism  

Fic-on  fan  discourse  analogy  

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FIT  

INTEGRITY  

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3.  Rehabilita-ng  Legal  Formalism  

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3.  Rehabilita-ng  Legal  Formalism  

•  Legal  Formalism  =loose  def    The  theory  that  legal  systems  always  entail  a  pre-­‐existent  and  transcendent  legal  domain  that  is  transparent  to  reason  and  from  which  unique  “right  answers”  to  all  legal  controversies  can  be  deduced.  

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3.  Rehabilita-ng  Legal  Formalism  

•  Not  that  there  really  is  a  single  right  answer,  yet  the  pretence  derives  a  single  answer  from  reasons  independent  of  moral  and  poli-cal  predilec-ons.  

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3.  Rehabilita-ng  Legal  Formalism  

•  Not  that  there  really  is  a  single  right  answer,  yet  the  pretence  derives  a  single  answer  from  reasons  independent  of  moral  and  poli-cal  predilec-ons.  

•  Evidence  of  indeterminacy  assumes  a  concept  of  law  (c.f.  Leiter’s  American  Legal  Realism).  

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3.  Rehabilita-ng  Legal  Formalism  

•  Not  that  there  really  is  a  single  right  answer,  yet  the  pretence  derives  a  single  answer  from  reasons  independent  of  moral  and  poli-cal  predilec-ons.  

•  Evidence  of  indeterminacy  assumes  a  concept  of  law  (c.f.  Leiter’s  American  Legal  Realism).  

•  Law  aint  really  law;  deduc-on  aint  really  deduc-on.  

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Conclusion  

•  Good  reason  to  carry  on?  Rule  of  Law?  

•  Present  focus  on  legal  discourse  yielding  independent  reasons  

•  A  novel  approach,  reconciling  claims  of  legal  formalism  with  indeterminacy  arguments  of  legal  realism  

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Thank  you.  

For  a  copy  of  the  paper:  

thelegalphilosophyproject.wordpress.com/2013/08/12/taking-­‐legal-­‐fic-onalism-­‐seriously  

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